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JRE MMA Show #115 with Valentina Schevchenko

Joe is joined by Valentina Shevchenko, the current UFC Women's Flyweight Champion.

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Jun 26, 20242h 29mWatch on YouTube ↗

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Valentina Shevchenko Explains How World Travel Forged a Perfect Fighter

  1. Valentina Shevchenko discusses her lifelong martial arts journey from Kyrgyzstan to becoming a dominant UFC champion, emphasizing the importance of a universal, well‑rounded fighting style. She explains how travel, language learning, shooting sports, and dance all feed into her mentality, balance, and performance as a fighter. Central to her success is her decades‑long partnership with coach Pavel and a training philosophy that rejects most ‘modern’ conditioning in favor of hard, long, skill‑focused sessions. She also shares her views on weight cutting, coaching, gun culture, kids and martial arts, and a possible future super‑fight with Amanda Nunes.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Develop yourself as a universal fighter, not a specialist.

Shevchenko’s coach always pushed her into many rule sets (Taekwondo, Muay Thai, MMA, Sanda, etc.), so she never feels out of place standing, clinching, or grappling. That breadth now lets her win fights in any area, surprising opponents who expect her to be only a striker.

A great coach who understands you is more important than a perfect gym.

Valentina follows Pavel wherever he goes because he’s been with her since age five and tailors technique to each athlete’s body and style instead of forcing one rigid system on everyone; she sees this as the main reason talent either flourishes or gets wasted.

Travel and learning outside the gym elevate performance inside the gym.

Living in Russia, Peru, and Thailand, speaking four languages, and deeply engaging with local cultures have expanded her perspective and resilience; she believes non‑fight experiences cross‑pollinate skills, sharpen self‑knowledge, and ultimately improve her fighting.

Train hard with purpose, not by copying trendy strength and conditioning.

She largely avoids weights, machines, running, and heart‑rate gadgets, instead doing one long, intense, skill‑heavy session a day with live partners and full‑power sparring (with protection). For her, wrestling, pads, and sparring build both conditioning and fight‑specific readiness.

Protect yourself in sparring so you can arrive fresh on fight night.

She criticizes hard, bare‑bones sparring without gear, noting that repeated damage in camp leaves fighters ‘like a balloon’ on fight night; her solution is full‑power but highly protected sparring (big gloves, headgear, pads) and careful energy management.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

To become a professional in something might take five years, so why not spend more years to learn something else and add more knowledge into yourself?

Valentina Shevchenko

My coach always wanted to create universal fighters who don’t have any problems in any position.

Valentina Shevchenko

In training you have to be the most simple person you can be, because it’s a real fight. If you think too much about yourself, it will break you.

Valentina Shevchenko

I don’t like to choose my opponents. All my life it was: ‘Valentina, will you fight her?’ Yes.

Valentina Shevchenko

For me, the gym is like my temple. If I respect that place, it will keep me safer from injuries.

Valentina Shevchenko

Valentina’s early life in Kyrgyzstan and entry into martial arts at age fiveGlobal travel, immersion in new cultures, and learning multiple languagesTraining philosophy: universal fighter, long-term coach relationship, and minimal use of modern equipmentApproach to technique, sparring, and mental toughness in fight preparationWeight classes, size differences, and potential third fight with Amanda NunesGuns, competitive shooting, and the culture of firearms and huntingEducation, balance, and why children should learn martial arts

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