CHAPTERS
- 0:00 – 1:54
NFTs, digital collectibles, and what fans actually want
Joe and Julianna open with a humorous, confused-but-curious chat about NFTs, wallets, and why digital items can be so valuable. Julianna riffs on the idea of creating NFTs that deliver real fan perks and memorabilia rather than random images.
- 1:54 – 3:47
Processing the Nunes upset: shock, disbelief, and the moment it turned
Joe congratulates Julianna on what he frames as one of the biggest upsets in combat sports history. They relive how wild it felt to watch her stand in the pocket and out-jab Amanda Nunes, plus the commentators’ (especially DC’s) stunned reactions.
- 3:47 – 6:10
Game plan and mindset: “meet fire with fire” and ‘drown her’
Julianna explains why she believed her style was a perfect matchup and why she refused to fight scared. They discuss her long campaign to get the title shot and how the delays helped make Nunes an even bigger target.
- 6:10 – 9:12
The emotional cost of fighting: family stress, guilt, and investment
Julianna describes how much the fight affected the people around her—her dad losing weight, friends panicking, bettors reacting. She feels both pride and guilt about the emotional rollercoaster she put loved ones through.
- 9:12 – 12:26
Choosing the hard road + the catastrophic knee injury story
The conversation shifts into adversity and identity—Julianna’s tendency to choose the tougher path. She recounts her brutal knee injury in training, the extent of the damage, and the fallout after calling Dana White in the moment.
- 12:26 – 15:20
Chaos, performance, and the ‘fighters thrive in turmoil’ idea
Joe and Julianna debate whether chaos can enhance performance, using Tyson’s prime as an example. Julianna rejects leaning on excuses, emphasizing professional consistency and alignment of mind/body as champion expectations rise.
- 15:20 – 19:02
What’s next: rematch plans, TUF coaching, and selling a rivalry without theatrics
They discuss the inevitable Nunes rematch, ideal timing (summer), and the idea of coaching The Ultimate Fighter to build hype. Both agree they don’t need manufactured drama, though they acknowledge TUF can create it naturally.
- 19:02 – 25:52
COVID, masks, monoclonals, and lifestyle-based health arguments
The topic veers into COVID experiences, mask skepticism, and treatment debates. Joe emphasizes open scientific discussion and lifestyle factors like fitness and vitamin D, while Julianna voices broader distrust and conspiracy-leaning concerns.
- 25:52 – 29:55
Supplements and brain health: NSF-certified products and psilocybin microdosing
Julianna discusses her supplement sponsors and what she uses for training, hydration, collagen, and ‘brain cushion’ products. They also talk about psilocybin microdosing, legality, decriminalization, and potential benefits for brain trauma.
- 29:55 – 33:42
Pacific Northwest roots vs. Chicago reality: weather, culture, and safety
Joe and Julianna compare Seattle/Spokane weather and the mental toll of constant rain. Julianna explains why she moved to Chicago (and why she’s stuck), plus the contrast in safety, winter cold, and local culture/food.
- 33:42 – 44:00
Training logistics and gym ecosystems: Chicago multi-gym grind vs. ATT/Sanford
Julianna describes piecing together a pro camp across multiple Chicago locations and constant driving. Joe contrasts it with one-roof mega-gyms like American Top Team; Julianna drops a bomb that Nunes has left ATT, prompting speculation.
- 44:00 – 51:00
Big fights, weight cuts, and making money: Kayla Harrison, UFC prestige, and contracts
They debate whether Kayla Harrison will come to the UFC and what weight would even work. The conversation broadens into fighter pay, the prestige of UFC titles vs. better money elsewhere, and legacy matchups like Fedor in the UFC.
- 51:00 – 1:01:43
Technical rewatch of Nunes finish: submissions, judging, and why Amanda faded
They revisit the choke finish, whether it was ‘quitting,’ and the importance of submission threats in scoring. Julianna claims she threatened a straight armlock and Kimura in round one and argues submissions should count like near-knockdowns.
- 1:01:43 – 1:06:46
Origin story: late start, rapid rise, and women’s MMA growing pains
Julianna shares how she started at 19 in cardio kickboxing to lose weight, then went pro quickly and entered the UFC early in the women’s era. They discuss how women’s MMA evolved, why Ronda was given a belt, and how injuries/pregnancy delayed Julianna’s path.
- 1:06:46 – 1:26:33
Camp structure, loyalty to coaches, and building discipline over time
They get granular on how Julianna organizes camps while her longtime head coach Rick Little stays based in Spokane and coordinates remotely. Julianna argues loyalty and a caring coach matter more than fame, and she explains how motherhood and losses reshaped her consistency.
- 1:26:33 – 2:33:52
Fighter pay, negotiation tension, and building a post-fight media career
The back half focuses on money—advocating for fair pay as champ without alienating UFC leadership, and why a middleman matters. Julianna discusses sponsorship help, commentating with Combate Global, and Joe pushes her toward a podcast and UFC commentary opportunities.
