JRE MMA Show #122 with Jake Shields

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumming music plays) Joe Rogan podcast.…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumming music plays) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.

   2. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays) So, do you know- (laughs)

   4. JSJake Shields0:15

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      We just ... Everybody keeps j- ... Hello, Jake Shields. Good to see you, bro.

   6. JSJake Shields0:18

      How's it going, Joe? Great to be on your show.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      Great to have you.

   8. JSJake Shields0:19

      Known you for, like, what? 15 years?

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:21

      Long fucking time, brother.

   10. JSJake Shields0:22

       And then, uh-

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:23

       Maybe more. It might be like 20.

   12. JSJake Shields0:24

       Yeah, right, 20.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       Yeah.

   14. JSJake Shields0:25

       I remember seeing your podcast, um, when it first started. You were like a small little-

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       I know.

   16. JSJake Shields0:30

       ... fringe show-

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       Yeah.

   18. JSJake Shields0:31

       ... for like, uh, potheads, fight people, comedians.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       Well, I waited until it got real big to bring you on.

   20. JSJake Shields0:35

       Yeah, so now-

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       (laughs)

   22. JSJake Shields0:36

       Oh, no, no, no pressure now. (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       So, we were talking about this, uh, what is it called? This C-OVID documentary-

   24. NANarrator0:44

       Watch-

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       ... that I think is made by the Russians.

   26. NANarrator0:46

       Watch the water.

   27. JSJake Shields0:46

       It's definitely true, by the way.

   28. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       Watch the water.

   29. JSJake Shields0:48

       (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan0:48

       Definitely true. So, what are they trying to say? There's snake venom?
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   S- yeah. What year…

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

   2. JSJake Shields15:00

      S- yeah. What year did you start watching fighting? Like, really early?

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:02

      I found out about it in '94.

   4. JSJake Shields15:06

      Mm-hmm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:06

      It was after the first UFC. I had just moved to LA and I watched the second UFC. I got it from a video store, like a Hollywood Video or some shit.

   6. JSJake Shields15:14

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:14

      And I was like, "Oh my god. What is this?"

   8. JSJake Shields15:17

      Mm-hmm.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:17

      And then, um, I, I found out a, you know, that this was like a thing that they were doing on a regular basis. I couldn't bel-

   10. JSJake Shields15:24

       Mm-hmm.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:24

       So I f- I saw it after it had already aired. Like maybe-

   12. JSJake Shields15:27

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:27

       ... I'd heard about it.

   14. JSJake Shields15:28

       Yeah, same with me. I think around '95 or something.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:30

       Yeah.

   16. JSJake Shields15:30

       My dad rented some and I'd bring it home like, "Oh my god. This is crazy."

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:33

       Mm-hmm.

   18. JSJake Shields15:34

       Never thought I would do it obviously. I mean these guys are nuts. But then when I started, uh, fighting my dad's like, "You can't do this."

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:39

       (laughs)

   20. JSJake Shields15:40

       I'm like, "Uh, Dad, you're the one that, uh, brought these videos home, introduced it to me." So...

   21. JRJoe Rogan15:45

       Did you have any idea of doing something else? Is... Was there something else you wanted to do when you were young?

   22. JSJake Shields15:50

       I had no clue what I wanted to do. I was just a young kid getting in trouble. I thought maybe be a pro snowboarder 'cause all my friends were trying to do that. But I didn't really have any ambition. I was going to school but no idea what I wanted to study. So I caught fighting and just, um, completely fell in love and got addicted and just, uh, you k- you know, couldn't help going for it and trying it.

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:08

       It's interesting because people have this idea of like what, um, the, like what kind of personality gets involved in fighting. But your personality's like kind of the opposite. You're like very friendly.

   24. JSJake Shields16:20

       Mm-hmm.

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:20

       Real quiet. You're mostly-

   26. JSJake Shields16:22

       Mm-hmm.

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:22

       ... vegetarian.

   28. JSJake Shields16:23

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:24

       You know?

   30. JSJake Shields16:24

       Well, fully vegetarian, but-
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   "... breathe out of…

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

   2. JSJake Shields30:00

      "... breathe out of my nose."

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:01

      Yeah. I mean, you could probably do it yourself. You could probably stick some sticks in there and pry it open.

   4. JSJake Shields30:06

      Really?

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:07

      If you want to be gangster.

   6. JSJake Shields30:07

      Oh, I'm gonna do a home surgery now.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:09

      I remember I saw Josh Barnett fix someone's broken nose in a video. There's a video of Josh Barnett, and the guy gets his nose broken in training. And Josh Barnett, I think he stuck a pencil in there and popped his nose back into place.

   8. JSJake Shields30:19

      Really?

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:20

      Yeah.

   10. JSJake Shields30:20

       I'm gonna hit up- I'm gonna hit up Josh Barnett. I have to get a number from you after we leave.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:22

       I think it's, like, right when it breaks though. I don't think you can do it, like, with yours.

   12. JSJake Shields30:27

       (sighs) Okay. I guess, I'll go to a doctor.

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:28

       What is this? Is it ... Yeah. See, this dude just got his nose broken. And so Josh Park ... Oh, it says, "Strike force heavyweight." So this is, this is fairly old. So Josh is manipulating this dude's nose. Ah, look at him.

   14. NANarrator30:41

       It all came out and started pumping in the media that there's no-

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:46

       What does it say?

   16. GUGuest30:46

       I, I wanted to hear the thing. I, uh, I think he's just narrating over top of it.

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:51

       But what is he saying, though?

   18. GUGuest30:52

       I don't know.

   19. NANarrator30:52

       It said, "Smokers are being hospitalized at rates higher than any other demographic."

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:58

       This is not the same-

   21. NANarrator30:58

       So the truth is-

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:00

       That's not the same audio.

   23. GUGuest31:00

       I ... By the way, I might have that.

   24. JSJake Shields31:01

       Looks like he's fixing something.

   25. JRJoe Rogan31:02

       You got another fucking thing running-

   26. GUGuest31:04

       (laughs) I think I got that Rumble video going on in the background.

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:05

       Oh, is ... That's exactly what it is.

   28. GUGuest31:06

       (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:06

       You've got that fucking snake venom video.

   30. GUGuest31:09

       Well, I don't know where it is.
4. 45:00 – 59:23

   Yeah. …

   1. JSJake Shields45:00

      the Sterling one and Sterling/Yan one.

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:01

      Yeah.

   3. JSJake Shields45:01

      That one's like, is this wh- basically comes down to who won that first round.

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:04

      (smacks lips) It does, but doesn't... List- listen, when Sterling takes your back and has your back for the entire fucking round, and comes really close to getting chokes in, and is punching you the entire round, complete back control.

   5. JSJake Shields45:17

      Mm-hmm.

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:17

      When is that a 10-8?

   7. JSJake Shields45:19

      That's-

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:19

      I wanna know when that's a 10-8.

   9. JSJake Shields45:20

      Oh, yeah, it's tough. And that's there's no-

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:21

       Yeah.

   11. JSJake Shields45:21

       ... fair, uh, judging criteria.

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:23

       Because I, I watched him take his back and, first of all, I was s- stunned at how strong his back control is. I always knew it was good.

   13. JSJake Shields45:31

       Yup.

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:31

       I mean, it was amazing against Sandhagen when he took Sandhagen's back and strangled him.

   15. JSJake Shields45:35

       Mm-hmm.

   16. JRJoe Rogan45:35

       But to wa- Yan, no one has ever controlled Yan on the ground like that before.

   17. JSJake Shields45:40

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan45:40

       No one.

   19. JSJake Shields45:41

       Yeah, when, if you're a good body triangle rider and you lock it, it's so hard to get out of, and I think-

   20. JRJoe Rogan45:45

       He's so good.

   21. JSJake Shields45:46

       ... Yan didn't really re- Yan didn't really know how to work to unlock that, uh, body triangle.

   22. JRJoe Rogan45:49

       I was so impressed with Aljamain. I'm so, I was so impressed with his back, back-taking and his back control, 'cause I know how good Yan is on the ground. He's a fucking beast, man.

   23. JSJake Shields45:58

       Mm-hmm.

   24. JRJoe Rogan45:59

       No one's been able to control him on the ground. The fact that Aljamain was able to get him to the ground repeatedly-

   25. JSJake Shields46:03

       Mm-hmm.

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:03

       ... and take his back repeatedly, I was very impressed with that.

   27. JSJake Shields46:06

       Yeah, no, Sterling's an amazing fighter. I just think because the way the last one went-

   28. JRJoe Rogan46:09

       Right.

   29. JSJake Shields46:09

       ... a lot of people didn't really like him. But I have him, uh, he trains at Kotor where I'm training people, so I have him spar the f- 35-pounders I train all the time, and he's, uh, definitely the real deal.

   30. JRJoe Rogan46:18

       Oh, he's the real deal. His, his jiu-jitsu is off the charts. I think the, I think with a, with a situation like that first fight, first of all, it was 100% an illegal blow, 100% he should be disqualified, no ifs, ands, or buts. That was a fucking knee, a hard knee to the face of a-

Episode duration: 3:10:26