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JRE MMA Show #126 with Eryk Anders

Joe sits down with Eryk Anders, a mixed martial artist competing in the Middleweight division of the UFC.

Eryk AndersguestJoe Roganhost
Jun 27, 20242h 30mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. Making 185 at a 230-lb walkaround: weight cuts, diet extremes, and performance

    Joe opens by grilling Eryk on how he can possibly hit 185 while walking around near 230. Eryk explains an 8-week cut strategy, why crash cutting wrecks cardio, and how his diet swings between “fight camp clean” and “off-camp junk.”

  2. Should weight cutting be banned? Fight-night weights, “sanctioned cheating,” and optimized body types

    They debate whether weight cutting should be eliminated and what the sport would look like without it. Joe and Eryk compare big rehydrators to fighters “maximized” for a division, using examples like Oliveira, Jon Jones, Usman, and Khamzat.

  3. Learning to cut correctly: early horror stories and how his wife changed the process

    Eryk recounts his first attempts at cutting weight with no guidance—hours in a sauna, missed weights, and miserable outcomes. Meeting his wife (fitness-oriented) led to measured meals, better metabolism management, and far easier cuts.

  4. From national champion to janitor: post-football frustration and finding MMA

    Eryk describes the emotional crash after college football success and the instability of chasing pro football. Working dangerous jobs and spiraling into fights, drinking, and drugs pushed him toward walking into a gym to redirect his life.

  5. Starting MMA late and getting humbled fast: sparring Walt Harris and embracing being a beginner

    He explains how he began training around age 24 and immediately got tested by experienced fighters. A first-day sparring session with heavyweight Walt Harris humbled him, but also hooked him on the learning curve and the challenge of starting from zero.

  6. Wild early fights and sketchy promotions: cigarettes, no corner, and two bouts in one night

    Eryk tells a chaotic story of fighting with only a month of training, including a boxing match and MMA fight on the same night in a bar setting. The conversation branches into how common these “no commission” scenarios used to be and why that’s dangerous.

  7. Combat sports rules, taps, and controversy: Jiri vs Glover, fake taps, and early UFC oddities

    They break down confusing moments where fighters appear to tap or where stoppages go wrong—starting with Jiri’s mid-fight patting and expanding into fake-tap incidents. Joe references early UFC/Pride-era examples and how officiating has evolved.

  8. Toughness, pain tolerance, and career planning: leg kicks, overtraining, and life after fighting

    Joe praises Eryk’s durability, especially in the Khalil Rountree fight, and they unpack what toughness really is. Eryk shares overtraining lessons, sleep habits, and his plan to exit the sport on his own terms—backed by real estate investing.

  9. Breaking down elite fighters and a stacked UFC card: Adesanya–Cannonier, Pereira–Strickland, Holloway–Volk

    They preview matchups and stylistic dynamics, focusing on distance control, power threats, and wrestling contingencies. Joe and Eryk discuss why Adesanya’s striking is uniquely sophisticated, how Pereira’s camp with Glover matters, and what makes certain fights “fan-makers.”

  10. Injuries, surgeries, and durability: plates, Tommy John, Achilles tears, and eye trauma

    Eryk details multiple serious injuries and the reality that surgery pain can exceed fight pain. They cover his hand plate, elbow issues (including fighting Machida compromised), Achilles rupture recovery, and the frightening “wrinkle in the retina” procedure.

  11. Rule sets and equipment: ONE FC knees/soccer kicks, grounded fighter definitions, and the Diamond cup

    Joe argues that rules like knees to a grounded opponent change the entire grappling game and prevent stalling. Eryk agrees, shares his own soccer-kick finish story, and they nerd out on practical gear—especially groin protection that actually works.

  12. Stem cells and the future of recovery: Tijuana disc injections, pain, and why the U.S. lags behind

    Eryk describes life-changing stem-cell disc injections in Mexico, including the intense post-procedure pain and the long rest requirement. Joe adds his own success story (rotator cuff tear resolving) and they discuss regulatory barriers, cultivation methods, and what’s coming next.

  13. Football vs fighting brain damage: concussions, CTE, and why MMA can be safer than boxing

    They compare the culture of toughness in football—where concussions used to be ignored—to the evolving safety approach today. Eryk explains being knocked unconscious in football and discusses CTE uncertainty, while Joe contrasts boxing deaths with MMA stoppage dynamics and cumulative damage.

  14. Mental readiness, judging, and fighter pay: sport psychology, win bonuses, and fixing scorecards

    Eryk describes the strange mental off-day leading into the Rountree fight and why consistency separates champions from the pack. They criticize win/loss pay structures, debate open scoring and more judges, and highlight how close fights can cost athletes half their income.

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