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JRE MMA Show #139 with Bas Rutten

Joe is joined by Bas Rutten: a retired mixed martial artist, UFC Hall of Famer, actor, inventor, and author.  www.basrutten.com

Joe RoganhostBas Ruttenguest
Jun 27, 20243h 7mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 3:20

    Bas moves to Texas: longhorns, culture shock, and leaving California

    Joe welcomes Bas Rutten and they swap stories about Bas becoming a Texas resident—boots, hats, and even riding a longhorn. They also reflect on the California exodus, why Texas feels different, and how friendliness (and lower density) changes day-to-day life.

  2. 3:20 – 6:43

    Self-defense rabbit hole: Tasers, stopping power, and carry guns

    A casual joke about being “armed” in Texas turns into a practical discussion on Tasers, their limitations, and why people overestimate personal-defense devices. They compare Tasers to firearms and talk through compact 9mm carry options and reliability concerns.

  3. 6:43 – 7:53

    Texas gun laws and unintended consequences

    They discuss constitutional carry and how widespread gun ownership affects public behavior. Joe brings up a tragic incident where police shot an armed homeowner at night, highlighting the complexity and risks around armed self-defense.

  4. 7:53 – 10:20

    Karate Combat: what it is, why it works, and how it started

    The conversation pivots to Karate Combat—Bas’s involvement, event scheduling, and why the promotion is gaining traction. Bas explains its origin story (Wall Street founders), the core ruleset, and why the format creates action without becoming MMA.

  5. 10:20 – 11:07

    Rules and geometry: the pit walls, “down” definitions, and ground strikes

    Joe and Bas dig into the technical rules that shape the fights—especially the angled walls and what counts as a downed opponent. They compare Karate Combat’s safety/action balance with PRIDE/ONE rules, discussing stomps, soccer kicks, elbows, and knees.

  6. 11:07 – 27:12

    Watching clips: point fighters adapting, knockouts, and distance control

    They watch highlight clips and analyze why certain styles succeed or fail—hands-down karate habits meeting boxing hooks, blitz entries, and feints. Bas and Joe praise fighters who manage distance and pressure, using Ross Levine as a showcase example.

  7. 27:12 – 34:33

    Fighter psychology: ‘the it factor,’ pressure, and why family in the audience changes everything

    They broaden into what separates champions from perennial contenders—confidence, mindset, and performing under pressure. They discuss how having kids/family present can add psychological weight, using recent UFC examples to illustrate.

  8. 34:33 – 51:18

    Dark turns: suicide stories, post-fight depression, and identity after fighting

    Bas recounts witnessing a suicide in Japan and the discussion shifts to mental health and the ‘crash’ after competition. Bas describes a frightening depression period after his final fight and how he fought back with reframing and gratitude lists, while Joe connects it to broader fighter identity issues.

  9. 51:18 – 1:01:50

    Injuries, recovery, and the promise (and politics) of stem cells & peptides

    They unpack Bas’s long-term neck/nerve damage, atrophy, and the slow grind of rehab, alongside Joe’s rotator cuff recovery story. The conversation expands into why regenerative medicine is restricted, how inflammation reduction differs from true healing, and why athletes seek treatment abroad.

  10. 1:01:50 – 1:16:16

    Tech tangent: implants, social credit fears, EVs, and Tesla self-driving

    A discussion about medical advances branches into concerns about embedded tech, hacking, and centralized control. From there they move to electric cars—Tesla performance, self-driving limitations, and why Joe still loves visceral old cars.

  11. 1:16:16 – 2:01:27

    MMA nostalgia: early wild rules, Kimbo, bare-knuckle, and legendary athletes

    They bounce through classic combat-sports stories and clips—Kimbo Slice’s era, early UFC chaos (wrestling shoes, loose rules), and fighters who were monsters in their prime. The thread includes freak athletes like Yoel Romero and Karelin, plus how rule changes shape legacies.

  12. 2:01:27 – 2:45:05

    Bas’s fight craft and training obsession: nerves, focus, and targeted damage

    Bas explains how he developed elite composure—writing ‘R’ for relax, learning to slow down under pressure, and using ADHD-like obsession to rapidly close skill gaps. They go deep on tactical details: aiming strikes to the same spot, timing body shots on inhales, and why shins snap when kicks land flat.

  13. 2:45:05 – 2:51:32

    Lifestyle now: gym ownership, insane metabolism, TRT decision, and daily training

    They discuss Bas’s current routine—keeping his Thousand Oaks gym, running fitness challenges, and how his genetics affect body composition. Bas also shares why he started TRT for mental well-being, plus what his workouts and diet look like at 58.

  14. 2:51:32 – 3:07:21

    Breathing masterclass + O2 Trainer demo: diaphragm mechanics and endurance gains

    Bas closes with an extended, technical breakdown of diaphragmatic breathing, inspiratory muscle training, and why many athletes breathe inefficiently. He demonstrates his O2 Trainer on-air, explains the physiology (metaboreflex and blood-stealing), and gives practical usage guidance and expectations.

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