JRE MMA Show #139 with Bas Rutten

1. 0:00 – 3:20

   Bas moves to Texas: longhorns, culture shock, and leaving California

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (energetic music) We're up. Mr. Rutten, good to see you, sir.

   3. BRBas Rutten0:15

      Been a while.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      It's been a while.

   5. BRBas Rutten0:17

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      Yeah, it was exciting running into you out here-

   7. BRBas Rutten0:19

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      ... in Texas. You're a Texas resident.

   9. BRBas Rutten0:21

      Texas, I got a hat and everything.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:23

       (laughs)

   11. BRBas Rutten0:23

       I need a belt buckle.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:24

       Did you get a hat? (laughs)

   13. BRBas Rutten0:24

       (laughs) Oh, yeah, yeah. I got the boots-

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:27

       (laughs)

   15. BRBas Rutten0:27

       ... and I rode a longhorn for, uh-

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       Good sh- (laughs)

   17. BRBas Rutten0:30

       ... in, where was it? In the, in this little village here somewhere, B- Banderas. Like a big, big freaking longhorn.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       You got on one of those things?

   19. BRBas Rutten0:37

       Oh, I got one, yeah. I dro- rode one, yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       Did they let you ride him, or they try to buck you off?

   21. BRBas Rutten0:40

       He, no, he, he said this, this guy is, uh, hanging out with kids, like 6-year-olds.

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       Oh.

   23. BRBas Rutten0:44

       He's very, very calm, so.

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       Yeah.

   25. BRBas Rutten0:47

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan0:48

       Those longhorns are wild, huh? Longhorns are insane.

   27. BRBas Rutten0:49

       Dude, it's crazy, if you see it. Giant... Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan0:53

       Yeah.

   29. BRBas Rutten0:53

       Yeah, everybody, the whole street will stop, like, again.

   30. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       When did you, uh, come out here?
2. 3:20 – 6:43

   Self-defense rabbit hole: Tasers, stopping power, and carry guns

   1. JRJoe Rogan3:20

      Well, they're armed.

   2. BRBas Rutten3:21

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan3:22

      (laughs)

   4. BRBas Rutten3:22

      They'll help, right? You know?

   5. JRJoe Rogan3:24

      It helps a lot.

   6. BRBas Rutten3:25

      It's like on a plane, everybody should get a little baseball bat, you know?

   7. JRJoe Rogan3:28

      (laughs)

   8. BRBas Rutten3:28

      When they walk in, you know?

   9. JRJoe Rogan3:30

      "I'm gonna hide you in the plane." Yeah.

   10. BRBas Rutten3:31

       Everybody got a-

   11. JRJoe Rogan3:32

       Or a Taser.

   12. BRBas Rutten3:32

       ... really... Or a Taser.

   13. JRJoe Rogan3:34

       Yeah, just so...

   14. BRBas Rutten3:34

       Yeah, but a Taser with me, and at the time, when I was... You know, okay, so a friend of mine, Holt McCallany, you know, from Mindhunter, that actor, he, uh, he gave me a Taser. So a- at, at my birthday, I open it up, I grab the Taser, I put the battery in, and I'm looking up, and not a single person is in the room.

   15. JRJoe Rogan3:54

       (laughs)

   16. BRBas Rutten3:54

       Everybody ran out. You see?

   17. JRJoe Rogan3:56

       (laughs) 'Cause they think you're gonna try it on-

   18. BRBas Rutten3:58

       Oh, 100%.

   19. JRJoe Rogan3:59

       (laughs)

   20. BRBas Rutten3:59

       Any person I see, I'm gonna try it. So I would do that on the plane as well. (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan4:03

       (laughs)

   22. BRBas Rutten4:04

       It's immediately... (laughs) Yeah. It's the funniest thing ever. I go, "Where is everybody?" Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan4:08

       Did you tase anybody yet?

   24. BRBas Rutten4:10

       No, no.

   25. JRJoe Rogan4:11

       No one?

   26. BRBas Rutten4:11

       You know-

   27. JRJoe Rogan4:11

       Not even yourself?

   28. BRBas Rutten4:12

       ... I still think they... I really, I wanna try it. I gotta go-

   29. JRJoe Rogan4:15

       I would just jab my thigh one time, just to see what's up.

   30. BRBas Rutten4:17

       Oh, that I did. I didn't even own my hand.
3. 6:43 – 7:53

   Texas gun laws and unintended consequences

   1. JRJoe Rogan6:43

      Everything is legal here.

   2. BRBas Rutten6:44

      Everything is legal. (laughs) Yeah, yeah. It's amazing. (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan6:45

      Literally everything. You can have concealed carry, is just your constitutional right.

   4. BRBas Rutten6:50

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan6:51

      Yeah.

   6. BRBas Rutten6:51

      Yeah. Don't have to take care of anything.

   7. JRJoe Rogan6:52

      Amazing how friendly everyone is because there.

   8. BRBas Rutten6:54

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan6:54

      I'm not advocating for the... I'm not saying that's the good thing or a bad thing.

   10. BRBas Rutten6:57

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan6:57

       I'm just saying it's a thing.

   12. BRBas Rutten6:59

       It's, listen, when other people have it, uh, if, if, it's bad people-

   13. JRJoe Rogan7:02

       People are less likely to get crazy.

   14. BRBas Rutten7:04

       Yeah, also, but if, if, if bad people have 'em, uh, I wanna live in a gun-free society. Uh, yeah. As long as they have 'em, I have 'em, it's very simple.

   15. JRJoe Rogan7:10

       Yeah. Although there was a very sad story out here, where a guy, someone was trying to break into his yard or something like that, or someone climbed his fence, and he went out in his own ya- I guess someone called the police or he called the police, and he went out into his own yard with an AR. And when the cops saw him, the cops shot him.

   16. BRBas Rutten7:30

       Oh, gee.

   17. JRJoe Rogan7:31

       Yeah.

   18. BRBas Rutten7:31

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan7:32

       In his own fucking ...

   20. BRBas Rutten7:33

       Backyard.

   21. JRJoe Rogan7:34

       Yeah, very sad.

   22. BRBas Rutten7:35

       Yep. Well, that's, (laughs) that's a lesson. Don't walk around with an AR in the middle of the night.

   23. JRJoe Rogan7:40

       Well, when you see the cops, put that motherfucker down.

   24. BRBas Rutten7:42

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan7:43

       Yeah. I don't, I don't know what the circumstances were, obviously.

   26. BRBas Rutten7:46

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan7:46

       But, uh ...

   28. BRBas Rutten7:47

       Sad for the family-

   29. JRJoe Rogan7:49

       Yeah.

   30. BRBas Rutten7:49

       That's the first thing I think about 'em.
4. 7:53 – 10:20

   Karate Combat: what it is, why it works, and how it started

   1. JRJoe Rogan7:53

      So, um, so how is Karate Combat, man? I love it.

   2. BRBas Rutten7:57

      I, I just came back-

   3. JRJoe Rogan7:59

      I, I have been watching, I've been watching a lot. I saw James Vick fought in Karate Combat.

   4. BRBas Rutten8:02

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan8:02

      And a lot of, uh, you know, a lot of glory guys fight in Karate Combat now. It's a-

   6. BRBas Rutten8:07

      James just wanted to invite me for hawk hunting. (laughs) I go, "I'm into it."

   7. JRJoe Rogan8:11

      Oh, yeah.

   8. BRBas Rutten8:11

      "I'm in. I would love to do that," uh. I just came back yesterday from Ar- uh, from, uh, from Miami. It was a great show. Uh-

   9. JRJoe Rogan8:19

      I gotta get out to one of these.

   10. BRBas Rutten8:20

       You have to.

   11. JRJoe Rogan8:20

       When is the next one?

   12. BRBas Rutten8:21

       Uh, June 24th.

   13. JRJoe Rogan8:22

       Where at?

   14. BRBas Rutten8:23

       Uh, I think Miami this one. It's Miami or Orlando.

   15. JRJoe Rogan8:26

       June 24th. Give me an excuse to go back to Miami, 'cause I like Miami.

   16. BRBas Rutten8:29

       Man, if you would, because they've been asking us for such a long time, you know, it, it, it's great.

   17. JRJoe Rogan8:34

       Maybe I'll take the missus.

   18. BRBas Rutten8:35

       And he expe- You know, es- if you go June 24th, I'm, I'm, I'm planning on to take my wife as well.

   19. JRJoe Rogan8:40

       Oh, really?

   20. BRBas Rutten8:41

       Yeah, I wanna take her more on trips now because, you know, all the time, crazy times are over, you know.

   21. JRJoe Rogan8:46

       Yeah.

   22. BRBas Rutten8:46

       And now it's, uh, and let's enjoy a little bit, uh, and a few days-

   23. JRJoe Rogan8:48

       Don't you appreciate that now?

   24. BRBas Rutten8:49

       So much better.

   25. JRJoe Rogan8:50

       Oh, you can just get on a plane, no mask, everybody's happy.

   26. BRBas Rutten8:53

       Oh. No, but also with m- me, my, my crazy, freaking, uh, like, okay, 15 years ago, you know, I would come home at eight o'clock in the morning completely drunk, and then nine o'clock, I, I got a flight. Now, I'm walking at the airport at six in the morning, I go, "I'm feeling great." You know?

   27. JRJoe Rogan9:07

       Sober.

   28. BRBas Rutten9:07

       Sober.

   29. JRJoe Rogan9:07

       Sober boss.

   30. BRBas Rutten9:08

       Not, not drinking. How crazy is that?
5. 10:20 – 11:07

   Rules and geometry: the pit walls, “down” definitions, and ground strikes

   1. JRJoe Rogan10:20

      And then it's, uh, when they go to the ground, they can punch them on the ground for 10 seconds, is that what it is?

   2. BRBas Rutten10:25

      Five.

   3. JRJoe Rogan10:25

      Five seconds?

   4. BRBas Rutten10:25

      Five seconds.

   5. JRJoe Rogan10:26

      Yeah.

   6. BRBas Rutten10:26

      Yeah, George was, uh, with me. George St-Pierre. He's one of the hosts, uh, as well as, um, uh, the, the Wonderboy, uh, Lyoto Machida, you know. But he, he was, he was advocating about three seconds.

   7. JRJoe Rogan10:38

      Hmm.

   8. BRBas Rutten10:39

      I go, "Why? Five seconds is already a short time. I think you need to ..." He says, "But three, then they, they probably hit harder," you know. I go, uh, whatever hi- his reasoning is, but, you know. I don't know, but it's a great rule to have. That's first of all. We haven't seen a knockout yet. Uh, there's take-downs, so you can use the pit, there's 45-degree angle walls, so you can literally walk up there and then drop a guy, which we already saw-

   9. JRJoe Rogan10:59

      Well, you've had knockouts.

   10. BRBas Rutten11:00

       (clears throat) Oh yeah, we had a lot of knockouts.

   11. JRJoe Rogan11:01

       What do you mean by you haven't seen a knockout? You mean on the ground?

   12. BRBas Rutten11:03

       Oh, ground and pound.

   13. JRJoe Rogan11:04

       Oh, ground and pound.

   14. BRBas Rutten11:05

       Ground and pound knockout.

   15. JRJoe Rogan11:06

       No- no ground and pound knockouts here?

   16. BRBas Rutten11:06

       Not yet.

   17. JRJoe Rogan11:07

       Interesting.

6. 11:07 – 27:12

   Watching clips: point fighters adapting, knockouts, and distance control

   1. BRBas Rutten11:07

      Well, we had the, Elijah Averill just came in. He's a point karate guy. And he was, uh ... I actually have some clips. Um, he's the guy who trained with Raymond Daniels.

   2. JRJoe Rogan11:18

      Oh.

   3. BRBas Rutten11:18

      And everybody was speaking about him, he's gonna be great. Dude, y- yeah, you wanna watch this one.

   4. JRJoe Rogan11:22

      Is this him right here?

   5. BRBas Rutten11:23

      Here we go. Okay, so this i- this is the first time.

   6. JRJoe Rogan11:25

      Whoo!

   7. BRBas Rutten11:25

      This is the karate guy on the right, Abdullah Ibrahim, and it's, that's, uh, Joshua Quahagen and he thought he's gonna ...

   8. JRJoe Rogan11:31

      Oh.

   9. BRBas Rutten11:32

      You see? Karate guys.

   10. JRJoe Rogan11:34

       Whoa. Show that again.

   11. BRBas Rutten11:35

       Boom.

   12. JRJoe Rogan11:36

       Show that again. These guys with their hands down like that.

   13. BRBas Rutten11:41

       Yep. Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan11:42

       Oh, left hook.

   15. BRBas Rutten11:42

       Left hook.

   16. JRJoe Rogan11:43

       Left hook. Six. Wow. They won the fight with a left hook. Watch the wing.

   17. BRBas Rutten11:48

       And then there is on this, um, there's another clip there with the h-

   18. JRJoe Rogan11:51

       They have a Bitcoin logo in the center?

   19. BRBas Rutten11:53

       It was at the time, yes.

   20. JRJoe Rogan11:54

       Oh, these are Wall Street guys. (laughs)

   21. BRBas Rutten11:57

       This- (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan11:57

       (laughs)

   23. BRBas Rutten11:57

       It's a long time ago.

   24. JRJoe Rogan11:59

       I love the banked edges too. I really do like that. I don't like the cage. I feel like it just gets in, even in MMA, I feel like it gets in the way of so much. Look at this. Boom. Oh, beautiful left hook. Over the shoulder. Didn't even see it coming.

   25. BRBas Rutten12:16

       You know, and the great thing is, if you, if you fall against the wall, you're not considered to down, uh, to be down, so you can do anything to your opponent.

   26. JRJoe Rogan12:23

       Hmm.

   27. BRBas Rutten12:24

       That is down, once you're on the ground, ground.

   28. JRJoe Rogan12:26

       Yeah.

   29. BRBas Rutten12:26

       But on the wall, you're still okay. There's another clip, um, uh, s- with, um, Elijah Averill. Here's the guy, the point karate guy. You, okay, watch this.

   30. NANarrator12:35

       Which one is it?
7. 27:12 – 34:33

   Fighter psychology: ‘the it factor,’ pressure, and why family in the audience changes everything

   1. BRBas Rutten27:12

      Yeah. Guys like that, man. That's why we have guys like Israel Adesanya.

   2. JRJoe Rogan27:16

      Mm-hmm.

   3. BRBas Rutten27:17

      You know, the way... For him to lose and then to come back, you see? I think that's more powerful than any other-

   4. JRJoe Rogan27:23

      Yes.

   5. BRBas Rutten27:23

      ... person out there, you know? You can be undefeated, it's nice, dandy, but, you know, show people you're human. And coming back from that, and then the... And it was rope-a-doping, right?

   6. JRJoe Rogan27:31

      Mm-hmm.

   7. BRBas Rutten27:31

      I mean, and my buddy right away, he sits next to me, he goes, "He's doing... He's rope-a-doping."

   8. JRJoe Rogan27:35

      Mm-hmm.

   9. BRBas Rutten27:35

      You know, he's... Well, cagey doping, whatever you wanna call it, offensive doping, but he was still looking, waiting just for the right moment.

   10. JRJoe Rogan27:41

       Oh, it was amazing.

   11. BRBas Rutten27:42

       Amazing.

   12. JRJoe Rogan27:42

       It's amazing.

   13. BRBas Rutten27:43

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan27:43

       Well, he had gotten very close to stopping him in one of the kickboxing fights, and then dropped him with seconds to go, like one second to go in the first round of their MMA fight.

   15. BRBas Rutten27:54

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan27:54

       So he kinda knew he could get to him.

   17. BRBas Rutten27:57

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan27:57

       But it's that motherfucker is so big.

   19. BRBas Rutten27:59

       Dude, he was standing next to me. He came to Karate Combat. He's a j-... He's like 235 pounds.

   20. JRJoe Rogan28:04

       He is huge.

   21. BRBas Rutten28:05

       (laughs) This is great. All these guys.

   22. JRJoe Rogan28:07

       Yeah.

   23. BRBas Rutten28:07

       I'm next to Jones. I mean, uh, freaking Tito, everybody's giant.

   24. JRJoe Rogan28:13

       Mm-hmm.

   25. BRBas Rutten28:13

       It's crazy.

   26. JRJoe Rogan28:14

       I know.

   27. BRBas Rutten28:14

       It's all length. Ian Garry.

   28. JRJoe Rogan28:16

       Oh, yeah.

   29. BRBas Rutten28:16

       I mean, you're standing next to him. You just hang out.

   30. JRJoe Rogan28:18

       He's so tall.
8. 34:33 – 51:18

   Dark turns: suicide stories, post-fight depression, and identity after fighting

   1. BRBas Rutten34:33

      And then, by the way, this is also funny. She, we're, we're doing the laundry, she's hanging laundry on the balcony. And you, it, it was in Japan, in Tokyo. And suddenly she goes, "Oh, my God. Somebody jumped off the building." And I'm laughing and I, I think it's a joke. And she goes, "No, no, really." So I'm looking and there's this guy on the floor in like a really bad position. You know, that he committed suicide. He just jumped. And then you see people coming by. They just kick him and they keep walking. And then suddenly there's this little, uh, ambulance thing comes. They grab him up, put him away. But it was the wildest thing, like-

   2. JRJoe Rogan35:05

      So she saw him jump?

   3. BRBas Rutten35:06

      She saw, saw him falling down. Boom. Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan35:10

      Whew!

   5. BRBas Rutten35:10

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan35:11

      That's a wild way to go.

   7. BRBas Rutten35:12

      Yeah. They say that every mo- the moment they jump, they, they know it's a mistake. That one guy who jumped off the bridge in New York-

   8. JRJoe Rogan35:21

      San Francisco.

   9. BRBas Rutten35:22

      Uh, San Francisco.

   10. JRJoe Rogan35:23

       Golden Gate.

   11. BRBas Rutten35:23

       And he survived.

   12. JRJoe Rogan35:24

       Yeah. Yeah.

   13. BRBas Rutten35:25

       The, the, the freaking, uh, what's it?

   14. JRJoe Rogan35:26

       Yeah.

   15. BRBas Rutten35:26

       The flipper brought him back up, right?

   16. JRJoe Rogan35:28

       Mm-hmm.

   17. BRBas Rutten35:29

       Unbelievable. He said, "You, you regret it the moment you step off." And, uh, I-

   18. JRJoe Rogan35:33

       Of course.

   19. BRBas Rutten35:33

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan35:33

       E- well, of course. You know you're gonna die.

   21. BRBas Rutten35:36

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan35:36

       I mean, I had a friend who did that in San Francisco.

   23. BRBas Rutten35:39

       And he died?

   24. JRJoe Rogan35:40

       He died. Yeah.

   25. BRBas Rutten35:41

       Oh, damn.

   26. JRJoe Rogan35:41

       Yeah. He struggled with depression for a long time and then, uh, someone sent him- sent me a message that he, Tony killed himself. I was like, "Oh, no." And I was like, "How did he do it?" And they were like, "He jumped off the bridge." I was like, "Oh..."

   27. BRBas Rutten35:54

       Yeah. Because that's about how, that's at least 50 seconds-

   28. JRJoe Rogan35:57

       Oh.

   29. BRBas Rutten35:57

       ... because it's all long bridge. That's, uh...

   30. JRJoe Rogan35:59

       That's a big fucking drop.
9. 51:18 – 1:01:50

   Injuries, recovery, and the promise (and politics) of stem cells & peptides

   1. JRJoe Rogan51:18

      And that's, that's the same injury that got aggravated when you did, what was it? Uh, Sons of Anarchy? When you were doing that movie? Or the TV show?

   2. BRBas Rutten51:27

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan51:27

      What was it that you did that wound up, you, where you had to get the next few years...

   4. BRBas Rutten51:31

      Oh, that was Lights Out.

   5. JRJoe Rogan51:32

      Lights Out.

   6. BRBas Rutten51:33

      Yeah, the TV show. Uh, there was this moment that the lead actor, uh, "I'm gonna beat him." And he says, "This is, it's not realistic. This boss, you know, he should come up with something. He, I do something if, something illegal, whatever."

   7. JRJoe Rogan51:46

      Mm-hmm.

   8. BRBas Rutten51:46

      "Because otherwise, there's no way I can beat this guy." And I said, "What about this? I jump on your back, you know? I forget to put the hooks in, and I slide off. I spike myself, so this is all on me."

   9. JRJoe Rogan51:56

      Oh, my gosh. It's your idea.

   10. BRBas Rutten51:57

       Yeah. And then, uh, and then I'm dizzy. You hit me in the throat, whatever, and then, uh, "You wanna do that?" I go, "Sure." You know you're invincible at that moment, you know?

   11. JRJoe Rogan52:06

       Hmm.

   12. BRBas Rutten52:07

       You think. And I did it twice, and it was ju- it was just this height that I just dropped. But I remember, like, two months later, looking in the mirror and looking at my wife. I go, "Is my arm getting smaller? (laughs) This is weird."

   13. JRJoe Rogan52:19

       Hmm.

   14. BRBas Rutten52:19

       And I wasn't using it because I had a lot of pain in the shoulder. And then I had to do an autograph session in, uh, in Boston for the UFC actually. They flew me out, and then I went to the doctor. I said, "Can, I gotta put a cortisone shot in here. There's no way I can do this weekend." You know? And he put the cortisone shot in there, and so I now could use it. Because before, I didn't use it because it was hurting, and I couldn't lift my carry-on luggage. Freaked me out. I go like, "Whoa, watch out." My other hand, I lift. I go, "Okay, so it's my arm. Something's going on." I thought I lost all power, and that's when I realized it was my freaking neck, you know.

   15. JRJoe Rogan52:51

       How is it coming back now? Is it...

   16. BRBas Rutten52:54

       Nothing. Its supporting muscles, they're doing it. You know, if I lift this up, you'll see, uh, you see, it's all gone here. See?

   17. JRJoe Rogan53:00

       Oh, wow.

   18. BRBas Rutten53:00

       It's all atrophied, yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan53:01

       Wow. That's crazy.

   20. BRBas Rutten53:02

       But it was, my whole arm was like this. It was a stick. So I got this, biceps is coming very slowly. It's coming down. But literally, I started with two pounds. I couldn't pull the trigger from a gun.

   21. JRJoe Rogan53:15

       Really?

   22. BRBas Rutten53:15

       Yeah. So going, listen, I used to do nine one-arm pull-ups. Like, people, I would do this in the subway with the other fighters. "Hey, show the pull-ups again." Not stretched arm, but from here, I could, like, nine one-arm pull-ups. And going from that not able to grab the freaking water out of the fridge.

   23. JRJoe Rogan53:31

       Ugh.

   24. BRBas Rutten53:31

       That was scary. That was very scary. And then I went from two-pound curls, and now I'm doing 15 now. And they say, "Oh, that's great." Yeah, over 12 years. (laughs) So...

   25. JRJoe Rogan53:41

       Fif- so you went from two-pound curls to 15-pound curls?

   26. BRBas Rutten53:43

       Yeah, but, uh, like I said, so over 12 years. I gotta do 45s I have in my left, and then the little ones.

   27. JRJoe Rogan53:49

       I know you went to Ways2Well, and they, they gave you some stem cells.

   28. BRBas Rutten53:53

       Yes.

   29. JRJoe Rogan53:53

       And you've, you've done some stem cells. Uh, where, where did you go before that? Did you go to Panama?

   30. BRBas Rutten53:57

       I did Panama before, all the way back. It didn't work anything for my, uh, neck injury. Uh, because apparently, there's a nerve blocked, and it can't unblock a nerve, you know? It's, uh, it can only do so much.
10. 1:01:50 – 1:16:16

    Tech tangent: implants, social credit fears, EVs, and Tesla self-driving

    1. BRBas Rutten1:01:50

       It's, doesn't stop. There's whole talks with the, uh, uh, Mr. Kaku you had, you know, with the, the quantum computers and all that stuff.

    2. JRJoe Rogan1:01:58

       Michio Kaku, yeah.

    3. BRBas Rutten1:01:59

       And it's all gonna be-

    4. JRJoe Rogan1:02:01

       Yeah.

    5. BRBas Rutten1:02:01

       ... probably in our bodies, right?

    6. JRJoe Rogan1:02:03

       Yeah.

    7. BRBas Rutten1:02:03

       It's... something like that eventually is going to happen.

    8. JRJoe Rogan1:02:06

       Yeah.... what do you think about that, boss? (laughs)

    9. BRBas Rutten1:02:08

       I'm, uh, I'm very scared of that because they can hack me then.

    10. JRJoe Rogan1:02:11

        Yeah. (laughs)

    11. BRBas Rutten1:02:12

        I don't think if you-

    12. JRJoe Rogan1:02:14

        I know. That's... I like how you go right to that.

    13. BRBas Rutten1:02:17

        Oh, yeah.

    14. JRJoe Rogan1:02:17

        Yeah.

    15. BRBas Rutten1:02:18

        That's what I would do if I'm bad guy. I would go hack him.

    16. JRJoe Rogan1:02:20

        That's a real problem.

    17. BRBas Rutten1:02:21

        Yeah.

    18. JRJoe Rogan1:02:21

        It's a real problem because that's what the, I think, the people that control the world, they would ge- genuine- genuinely like to have a one-world government, one economy that the entire world shares, a digital currency that goes with the social credit schism.

    19. BRBas Rutten1:02:36

        Yep, so they can turn it off and on.

    20. JRJoe Rogan1:02:37

        And, and they can do whatever the fuck they want with you.

    21. BRBas Rutten1:02:39

        Yep.

    22. JRJoe Rogan1:02:39

        BJ Penn just made some, uh, some qu- post about that. If you have an electric car and you get arrested or if they're looking for you, they can literally tell your electric car to drive to the police station.

    23. BRBas Rutten1:02:52

        Whoa.

    24. JRJoe Rogan1:02:52

        Yeah.

    25. BRBas Rutten1:02:53

        Yeah. No.

    26. JRJoe Rogan1:02:54

        Fuck that.

    27. BRBas Rutten1:02:54

        (laughs) Yeah.

    28. JRJoe Rogan1:02:55

        (laughs)

    29. BRBas Rutten1:02:56

        I would never go full electric. I don't think it's, uh... You know, if it, if you have... Get an electric but also get gas on the side.

    30. JRJoe Rogan1:03:02

        Yeah. I have, I have an electric car that I love. I have a Tesla and it's fucking magic.

Episode duration: 3:07:21