JRE MMA Show #15 with Brendan Schaub

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (Joe hums) I might do…

   1. BSBrendan Schaub0:00

      (Joe hums) I might do a show with Diaz in New York.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:05

      Boom! Live? Uh, Jamie's giving me the not sure look. Yes!

   3. BSBrendan Schaub0:12

      (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      Uh, you and Joey Diaz talking about doing a show in, in New York. Where?

   5. BSBrendan Schaub0:16

      Maybe, man. Damn.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      Where at? Where at?

   7. BSBrendan Schaub0:17

      Maybe, brother.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      Oh, okay. You don't wanna talk about it?

   9. BSBrendan Schaub0:18

      Yeah, no.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:19

       Um-

   11. BSBrendan Schaub0:19

       Need to find that shit.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:20

       You want to hear... I got a Joey Diaz story. We're going to do a show with me and Joey and Yoel motherfucking Romero. And he's gonna talk to him if he gets confused in, in, in Spanish.

   13. BSBrendan Schaub0:29

       Oh, that's gonna be amazing.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       You know, 'cause Joey's from Cuba. Dude, are you kidding me?

   15. BSBrendan Schaub0:32

       So Joey Diaz is gonna translate?

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       He was... Joe... It's totally Joey's idea. Joey says...

   17. BSBrendan Schaub0:36

       It's a brilliant idea.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       "Bro, I've been talking to him. I love this fucking guy. We'd have an amazing podcast, you and me. You throwing the questions at him. If shit gets weird, I come to him in Spanish. We'll understand each other better."

   19. BSBrendan Schaub0:46

       It's a brilliant idea.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       This is what Joey said. He said, uh... He goes, "Tell him that I want to be on his podcast because he has love for Cuba and under... He understands Cuban love."

   21. BSBrendan Schaub0:56

       Love it. Love it.

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       I was like, that... All that shit that he was doing to Luke Rockhold after he knocked him out-

   23. BSBrendan Schaub1:01

       Bro, back up.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:01

       ... like, that's intense. That's intense.

   25. BSBrendan Schaub1:03

       Gi- give me a few minutes. You just knocked me into freaking-

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:06

       That's intense.

   27. BSBrendan Schaub1:07

       ... Puerto Vallarta. Give me a fucking second to get my wits about me and then kiss me on the lips or wherever the fuck you want to do it.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:14

       His ability to just be calm and then explode is very terrifying. It's only helped by him telling you he loves you.

   29. BSBrendan Schaub1:23

       (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:23

       (laughs) He's, he's more terrifying than ever!
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   I hear you. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      never know.

   2. BSBrendan Schaub15:00

      I hear you.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:01

      Right?

   4. BSBrendan Schaub15:01

      With that one, you kinda know.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:02

      I know... Kinda, but after the fact, we're saying that.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub15:05

      Ah, so mo- I also have the angle video.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:06

      In the moment, like Frankie Edgar. Let's talk about Frankie Edgar. That fucking guy is a zombie. He comes back from the dead. He gets cracked by Gray Maynard in two fights to the point where it looks like it's over.

   8. BSBrendan Schaub15:14

      I'm glad you brought this up.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:15

      It's over.

   10. BSBrendan Schaub15:16

       Because-

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:17

       He's been rocked and he, he comes back in the most incredible way.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub15:20

       When, when, when I, I sit down with him and we're talking about that, and we were talking about concussions and CT 'cause they have kids and stuff. And I said, "Like, that Gray Maynard fight, you know, you, you were concussed and you came back." He goes... What's crazy was... (laughs) I don't wanna ruin the interview with this. What's crazy about that, Brendan, is, uh, wasn't concussed, no signs at all. I went, "S- I'm gonna stop you. I'm gonna stop you. Who told you?" He goes, "Didn't even throw up." I went, "So that's your sign for not concussed? You didn't throw up?" He said... (laughs) That is such a bro sign, Frankie. Look at me when I tell you this. You had brain trauma in that fight, man.

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:50

       (laughs)

   14. BSBrendan Schaub15:50

       Fucking telling you, bro.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:51

       There's no way he didn't. It's impossible. I mean, maybe he'll recover 100%.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub15:55

       He's the best, man.

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:55

       But the, the fucking heart that it took to come back from that and draw-

   18. BSBrendan Schaub15:59

       Legend.

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:59

       ... in one fight and then KO him in the second fight.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub16:01

       Legend, brother.

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:02

       Fucking crazy.

   22. BSBrendan Schaub16:02

       And what's crazy, if you look at Frankie's record, you know, when they toss him to Yair Rodriguez as the-

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:07

       Mm-hmm.

   24. BSBrendan Schaub16:07

       ... you know, the- these young cats-

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:08

       Woo!

   26. BSBrendan Schaub16:08

       ... he eats them up-

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:10

       Eats them up.

   28. BSBrendan Schaub16:10

       ... like Kobayashi. Did you see the Brian Doherty/Cub Swanson fight?

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:13

       Now, Ortega.

   30. BSBrendan Schaub16:13

       Holy shit.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Could be anyone though.…

   1. BSBrendan Schaub30:00

      the excitement of the Perth crowd, you're as good as his la- your last fight. If he had two KOs in a row like that-

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:06

      Could be anyone though.

   3. BSBrendan Schaub30:06

      ... dude, that's big. But he-

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:07

      Yeah, I agree. It's just, it's... To me, stylistically, it's a bad matchup.

   5. BSBrendan Schaub30:09

      He's 40. I understand what you're saying, but he's 40 and he's legitimately one or two big wins away from another title shot. Think about what you have, right? You have DC versus Stipe. Whoever fights out, who are they gonna fight next? Mark Hunt knocks out... Hold on a second. He knocks out him, and then he knocks out someone next. Like, who could it be? Okay. Overeem?

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:29

      I mean, you could try Overeem again, but the problem with Overeem fighting for the title again is he just lost to Stipe by knockout.

   7. BSBrendan Schaub30:35

      I know.

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:35

      And then he just lost to Francis by knockout.

   9. BSBrendan Schaub30:37

      And he got Gooden there as well.

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:38

       Yeah, so you-

   11. BSBrendan Schaub30:38

       He's number one actually.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:39

       Yeah, you've got some fucking real interesting fights, but all it would take was Mark Hunt to beat one of those top guys and he's in consideration again.

   13. BSBrendan Schaub30:46

       For sure.

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:47

       There's a small pool there.

   15. BSBrendan Schaub30:48

       Uh, it's super... Heavyweight's super small.

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:49

       At heavyweight? So small. That's why Overeem keeps getting shuffled back to the top. As tough as he is, and it's not taking anything away from him, there's not a lot of-

   17. BSBrendan Schaub30:56

       There's not a lot of guys-

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:57

       ... new blood being fed into the top tiers of the group.

   19. BSBrendan Schaub30:59

       There's no new blood, really.

   20. JRJoe Rogan31:01

       Well, it's hard. It's a fucking hard division to find talented guys. I think it's the most-

   21. BSBrendan Schaub31:05

       Heavyweight's tough.

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:05

       ... difficult division.

   23. BSBrendan Schaub31:06

       Well, heavy... I think, I think heavyweight's better off than light heavyweight. Look at light heavyweight, it's like Jesus Christ.

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:10

       That's a shark tank. Light heavyweight's got a lot of crazy shit going on right now, right? Like, what happens if DC loses or leaves rather? And then you got-

   25. BSBrendan Schaub31:17

       DC is gonna win the heavyweight belt and bounce.

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:20

       So if he goes to heavyweight and stays at heavyweight-

   27. BSBrendan Schaub31:22

       Wins, bounces.

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:23

       And think of that, man. This is crazy, right?

   29. BSBrendan Schaub31:25

       Is it?

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:26

       W- Well, imagine Cain going to 205.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Yeah. …

   1. BSBrendan Schaub45:00

      to go, "I'll figure it out."

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:01

      Yeah.

   3. BSBrendan Schaub45:01

      "I know, I know he's been training 12 weeks and he's one of the best in the world. I got this." That's a different switch that 99.9% of professional athletes don't have.

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:10

      But imagine full dedication, full perfect diet-

   5. BSBrendan Schaub45:15

      Nah, why you gotta do that shit, man?

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:16

      ... no fucking ... (laughs)

   7. BSBrendan Schaub45:17

      Why you gotta do that to the guy? You, you think he wants that? You know what I'm saying?

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:20

      I don't know. I don't-

   9. BSBrendan Schaub45:21

      Why you gotta let him free like Shamu? Don't put him in the fucking container-

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:23

       (laughs)

   11. BSBrendan Schaub45:23

       ... and have people look at him. Let him out in the ocean, let him do his thing.

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:26

       Shamu never got released, he didn't know how to live in the wild, bro.

   13. BSBrendan Schaub45:29

       Pffft, well, all Jon knows how to live in the wild. And then you wanna toss him into the fucking container and-

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:33

       Bring him to a pu-

   15. BSBrendan Schaub45:34

       ... put him in a blazer and some khakis and no dick pills.

   16. JRJoe Rogan45:37

       (laughs)

   17. BSBrendan Schaub45:37

       You know what I'm saying? Like, let him live, man.

   18. JRJoe Rogan45:41

       (groans)

   19. BSBrendan Schaub45:41

       Is it a crime to take dick pills and a little Coke?

   20. JRJoe Rogan45:43

       No. That's-

   21. BSBrendan Schaub45:43

       Come on.

   22. JRJoe Rogan45:44

       The, the problem's not that. The problem is, is he getting enough recovery so that he's training enough to reach his full potential? And what is more important? Is that more important or is it nurturing the wild nature that lets you do crazy shit?

   23. BSBrendan Schaub46:00

       He ... There's a balance. He, he should be able to do both.

   24. JRJoe Rogan46:03

       Maybe.

   25. BSBrendan Schaub46:03

       He's not hurting anyone doing Coke or doing dick pills.

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:05

       But as you get older and your body gets more and more tired from war, right? I mean, think of the battles that guy's been in.

   27. BSBrendan Schaub46:11

       That's the nature of the beast, though.

   28. JRJoe Rogan46:12

       Right. But-

   29. BSBrendan Schaub46:12

       That's everyone.

   30. JRJoe Rogan46:13

       But that's gonna be a problem if he's not fully dedicated as time moves forward.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:00:40

   Did he? …

   1. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:00

      say that, did he?

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      Did he?

   3. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:01

      No. Derek's fighting this weekend.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:03

      Who's he fighting? Marcin Hubera?

   5. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:05

      Yeah, yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:06

      Yeah, he's a bad motherfucker. That guy's a good striker.

   7. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:08

      God, I want Derek. I want Derek to win.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:09

      It's a good fight. He's got a good shot.

   9. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:10

      Let's go Derek Francis. Derek Francis, black on black crime. What's up, black panther?

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:13

       Ooh.

   11. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:15

       Sick fight.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:16

       Derek's a beast, man. This nigga's phenomenal.

   13. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:17

       I like watching him fight. He was talking about retiring.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:21

       Okay, yeah. Marcin Hubera. Yeah, why did he want to retire?

   15. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:26

       I don't know. Goddamn, they're still pushing Sage Northcutt on us, huh? Um...

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:00:30

       (laughs) He's learning and growing. He's only 18 years old.

   17. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:35

       Goddammit.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:00:35

       Why you mad about Sage Northcutt fighting?

   19. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:36

       I'm not mad at... I'm mad at his haircut. I'm not mad at Sage. I think he's a phenomenal athlete.

Episode duration: 2:50:17