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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck

Joe is joined by mixed martial artists John Rallo, Matt Serra, and Din Thomas. John owns Shogun Fights and also serves as the owner and head coach at Ground Control Mixed Martial Arts Academy. Matt is the host of the "UFC Unfiltered" podcast with Jim Norton and is the owner and lead instructor at Serra BJJ. Din is a host on "SiriusXM Fight Nation," "Josh Cohen & the Home Team" on ESPN West Palm, and "Fight Court." www.groundcontrolbaltimore.com www.serrabjj.com www.ufc.com/athlete/din-thomas This episode is brought to you by The Farmer's Dog. Get 50% off your first box by heading to http://thefarmersdog.com/rogan today!

Joe RoganhostMatt SerraguestDin ThomasguestJohn RalloguestGuestguest
Sep 11, 20243h 8mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Rogan, Serra, Thomas dive deep into MMA, toughness, and chaos

  1. Joe Rogan hosts Matt Serra, Din Thomas, and John Rallo for a long-form, freewheeling MMA show that mixes technical fight breakdowns with gym stories, movie talk, and dark humor. They analyze current and upcoming UFC matchups, especially Alex Pereira, Khalil Rountree, Merab Dvalishvili, Sean O’Malley, and Volkanovski’s recent decisions. A big chunk of the conversation centers on fighter safety: weight-cutting, eye pokes, gloves, PED eras, and how careers get derailed by bad cuts or late-career wars. They also veer into pop culture—chimp documentaries, classic Westerns and gangster films, Alien and zombie movies—using them as analogies for violence, fear, and how audiences consume combat sports.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Never wear metal rings when training or lifting.

They describe gruesome ‘degloving’ injuries from metal wedding rings catching on mats or weights and strongly recommend silicone bands or no rings at all in the gym.

A massive gas tank is a weapon on par with power or technique.

Merab Dvalishvili is held up as the template—his insane pace, clinch pressure, and ability to stay relentless from round one to five can break elite opponents even if they survive early exchanges.

Weight cutting is normalized cheating and needs systemic reform.

They argue fighters’ ‘true’ weight should be measured hydrated (e.g., at the PI), contracts should lock in ranges around that natural weight, and more divisions plus hydration testing could curb dangerous cuts and unfair size advantages.

Eye pokes are fixable with better glove design.

Open fingers and current UFC gloves keep causing fight-altering pokes; covering fingertips or adopting curved designs like Trevor Wittman’s would reduce gouging without harming grappling.

Late-notice title fights are legacy gambles that often backfire.

Volkanovski’s 10-days-notice rematch with Makhachev is used as a cautionary tale: the warrior mindset plus short prep and prior damage can lead to brutal KOs and shorten primes, even if the opportunity is historic.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

It shouldn’t be the ultimate weight-cutting championship.

Joe Rogan

Show me your friends, you show me who you are.

Matt Serra (on War Machine and Phil Baroni)

This is what actual men are like when there’s no one around that can yell at you.

Joe Rogan

If I get behind you and put that in there, you’re going night-night.

Matt Serra (on chokes and willpower not beating physics)

We’re so spoiled. The most. With fights every weekend.

Din Thomas

Naming the MMA show and Wu-Tang ‘Protect Ya Neck’ themeGym safety, wedding rings, handshakes, and macho posturingTechnical breakdowns of heavyweights and knockout specialists (Ngannou, Ferreira, Pereira, Khalil, etc.)Fighter safety: weight cutting, eye pokes, gloves, injuries, and CTECareer arcs and legacies of stars (Aldo, BJ Penn, Anderson, Volk, Weidman, Robbie Lawler, Tony Ferguson)Promotion, trash talk, and how fighters build or ruin their brandMedia and culture: fight-centric movies/series, chimps, zombies, and how audiences process violence

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