JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck

Joe is joined by mixed martial artists John Rallo, Matt Serra, and Din Thomas. John owns Shogun Fights and also serves as the owner and head coach at Ground Control Mixed Martial Arts Academy. Matt is the host of the "UFC Unfiltered" podcast with Jim Norton and is the owner and lead instructor at Serra BJJ. Din is a host on "SiriusXM Fight Nation," "Josh Cohen & the Home Team" on ESPN West Palm, and "Fight Court." www.groundcontrolbaltimore.com www.serrabjj.com www.ufc.com/athlete/din-thomas This episode is brought to you by The Farmer's Dog. Get 50% off your first box by heading to http://thefarmersdog.com/rogan today!

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Sep 12, 20243h 8mWatch on YouTube ↗

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0:00 – 1:05
Settling on the show name: “Protect Ya Neck” (Wu-Tang energy)
1. NANarrator
  (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. (rock music)
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Gentlemen, we still don't have a name for this.
3. MSMatt Serra
  We're not the Cucks, right?
4. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
5. MSMatt Serra
  We got rid of that?
6. DTDin Thomas
  Cucks-
7. MSMatt Serra
  Guys, what was wrong with the Cucks?
8. JRJoe Rogan
  What happened with Protect Your Neck?
9. MSMatt Serra
  Cucks is okay.
10. DTDin Thomas
  Protect Your Neck.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  What happ- what happened with Protect Your Neck?
12. MSMatt Serra
  I think Protect Your Neck is best. That's the best one. Yeah, let's go with Protect Your Neck.
13. DTDin Thomas
  I'm down with that.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Protect Your Neck is-
15. MSMatt Serra
  Yeah, I'm down for that.
16. DTDin Thomas
  We could have the-
17. MSMatt Serra
  Protect Your Neck.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
19. DTDin Thomas
  ... Wu Tang theme song.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. Wu Tang, it's perfect.
21. MSMatt Serra
  Yeah.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Protect Your Neck.
23. DTDin Thomas
  Beautiful.
24. MSMatt Serra
  Yeah. We already, the theme song is already done for us.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Exactly. Yeah.
26. MSMatt Serra
  We got it.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  There's two Wu Tang songs I always listen to when I'm going to an arena when I'm doing a show. It's Protect Your Neck and Gravel Pit. Those two-
28. MSMatt Serra
  Hmm.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  ... they just get you in the groove.
30. DTDin Thomas
  Yeah, yeah. Get you in, yeah, get you going.
1:05 – 2:29
Finger degloving horror & why fighters wear rubber rings
1. MSMatt Serra
  Hey, hey. You know what we never tried?
2. JRJoe Rogan
  What?
3. MSMatt Serra
  The f- the smelling salts.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  We got them right here.
5. DTDin Thomas
  Oh, yeah. You gotta do it.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  But we gotta show, we gotta show Dean the sheathing.
7. MSMatt Serra
  Oh, what is the fucking sheathing? What does that mean?
8. JRJoe Rogan
  It's when, when metal rings. We were all talking about it.
9. DTDin Thomas
  Oh.
10. MSMatt Serra
  I don't wanna see that shit.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  The three of us have rings on, but they're rubber. These are like silicone, right?
12. MSMatt Serra
  All right. Lemme see. All right.
13. DTDin Thomas
  Get it or back it.
14. NANarrator
  (screaming)
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Look at this. Yeah, my nigga. Yeah, bro.
16. MSMatt Serra
  (screaming)
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, yeah.
18. DTDin Thomas
  Sure.
19. MSMatt Serra
  You look like chicken wings. (screaming)
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
21. DTDin Thomas
  That's what happens. Don't wear a ring on the mat, ever.
22. MSMatt Serra
  Oh. All right, all right.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, fuck.
24. MSMatt Serra
  Turn it off, turn it off.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Don't wear a ring to the gym.
26. DTDin Thomas
  Yeah.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  It, like, you could, uh, drop a weight on it or rip your finger off.
28. MSMatt Serra
  You wear-
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Like, for real.
30. MSMatt Serra
  You wear these.
2:29 – 5:14
Handshake etiquette, grip-douches, and why guys posture around fighters
1. JRJoe Rogan
  But yeah, I've, I heard about a dude in, uh, God, I forget whose, whose gym. One of the, one of the... Some big name dude. And, uh, he took a photo of one of his students and said, "Don't ever come onto my mat with a ring on, ever. Ever again."
2. MSMatt Serra
  Oh my God.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  "Because this is what happens." And he posted it.
4. MSMatt Serra
  Ooh.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  I don't remember who posted it, but fuck, man. It's like you can't... It's just too dangerous.
6. MSMatt Serra
  I never liked wearing-
7. JRJoe Rogan
  You, you basically have a, a metal wedge on your finger.
8. MSMatt Serra
  Right.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  If you're doing anything heavy, if you're in the outdoors, if you're climbing something, it can just dig right into your meat and rip your fucking finger apart.
10. MSMatt Serra
  When I was, um, when I was, uh, when I was fighting, when I was champ, I had the, uh... I had just got married. I was telling you earlier. And fi- and when I had the ring on, this is before they had the r- rubber rings, you know? And, and guys get excited to see you, so I sometimes you give them the hand, they, they squeeze your fingers and it felt so exciting.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Smash the ring into him.
12. MSMatt Serra
  Oh, yeah.
13. DTDin Thomas
  Into my sarah.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
15. MSMatt Serra
  You try to be nice and it's like, "Give me my hand back, motherfucker."
16. DTDin Thomas
  (laughs)
17. JRJoe Rogan
  I wonder if that's why you wear a wedding ring on your left hand.
18. MSMatt Serra
  So you, 'cause you shake what you have there.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  'Cause you shake hands with your right, so I wonder if that's-
20. DTDin Thomas
  Hmm. Be, I mean, that's good (laughs) that's a good hypothesis there.
21. NANarrator
  That totally makes sense.
22. DTDin Thomas
  Yeah, for sure.
23. MSMatt Serra
  It does. Especially, though, I hate those douche bags that always try to give you that fucking... They have a nice squeeze. They try to break-
24. JRJoe Rogan
  They grab the tips. I don't like that.
25. MSMatt Serra
  And they try to break, they try to break your hand off.
26. DTDin Thomas
  That, that gets on my fucking nerves when they wanna squeeze your fingers.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  I don't, I don't like when they... It's a bitch move.
28. DTDin Thomas
  Shake your hand, dude.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  It's a bitch move.
30. MSMatt Serra
  You go in exactly the-
5:14 – 5:50
The intimidation factor of heavyweights: meeting Ngannou in person
1. MSMatt Serra
  Yeah.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  I understand. Flex a little bit. Like if you're meeting Francis Ngannou, how fucking terrifying is that?
3. MSMatt Serra
  Oh yeah, no doubt.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  If you're-
5. MSMatt Serra
  Like there's this... (laughs)
6. JRJoe Rogan
  You're a regular dude.
7. DTDin Thomas
  Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
8. MSMatt Serra
  Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  You're a regular dude and you shake that guy's hand. You're like, "Oh, what the fuck, man?"
10. MSMatt Serra
  (laughs)
11. DTDin Thomas
  Right?
12. JRJoe Rogan
  I remember the first time I interviewed him. I was standing next to him. I'm like, "What the fuck, man?" That guy is so powerful.
13. MSMatt Serra
  He's fighting a guy bigger than him.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
15. DTDin Thomas
  Henan Ferreira?
16. MSMatt Serra
  The Bellator guy?
17. DTDin Thomas
  Right? The Bellator?
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes. That guy is good.
19. DTDin Thomas
  Is his first name Good?
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, he's good. He is good.
21. DTDin Thomas
  And he's like 6'8", right?
22. JRJoe Rogan
  He KO'd Ryan Bader and real quick, right? It wasn't like 20 seconds.
23. MSMatt Serra
  He like, like jabbed him or something. And yeah, it was real quick.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Dude, he hit him with a clean right hand.
25. MSMatt Serra
  Yeah.
5:50 – 10:18
Ferreira vs Bader breakdown + Bellator testing jokes + Bobby Lashley freak genetics
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Let's watch that because this guy's good, dude. Like this is a dangerous fight.
2. MSMatt Serra
  I never seen the fight. I just seen the size of him.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  After a bad KO-
4. DTDin Thomas
  He's a big motherfucker.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  ... you have to think, you know, he fights Anthony Joshua. That was a bad KO from one of the best knockout artists in boxing, right?
6. MSMatt Serra
  How tall is this guy?
7. JRJoe Rogan
  This guy's big, dude.
8. MSMatt Serra
  And he's athletic, too. He's really athletic, too.
9. DTDin Thomas
  'Cause he's a lot taller than you.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Super fast, man, and he does a lot of wild shit. He throws a lot of kicks and knees. Dude, he's good.
11. MSMatt Serra
  How much taller is he than, uh...
12. JRJoe Rogan
  A few inches.
13. MSMatt Serra
  That's it?
14. JRJoe Rogan
  I think Francis is like, Francis is like 6'-
15. DTDin Thomas
  6'4" or 6'-
16. JRJoe Rogan
  ... 6'5".
17. MSMatt Serra
  Is he?
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Something like that.This guy's, he's taller. Francis is bigger though, for sure. But this guy's fucking dangerous, man. And he's real long. Like watch this combination when he lands it on Bader. See, Bader can't close the distance here. He's having a hard... This guy's from the outside, son.
19. JRJohn Rallo
  Oh.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Look at that right hand.
21. MSMatt Serra
  He waited for him to throw that jab.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Bro, watch that again 'cause that shit was perfect.
23. MSMatt Serra
  Yeah.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Watch that again. Look at the timing on this guy, man. Watch this. Bader's trying to close, he's trying to close. Check out this. Do you... Watch this fade away a little to his left. Boom!
25. JRJohn Rallo
  Oh.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh.
27. MSMatt Serra
  I mean, that's right over the top of the jab.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Clean.
29. JRJohn Rallo
  They got footwork. They got over the top of the jab.
30. GUGuest
  Yeah.
10:18 – 15:16
‘Natty or not?’ genetics talk, then Sean Brady vs Gilbert Burns (grappling chess)
1. JRJoe Rogan
  customers only. It's amazing some guys are natural, like Paulo Costa. He's just got the genes, son.
2. MSMatt Serra
  Is he now, is he natural?
3. JRJoe Rogan
  I don't know.
4. GUGuest
  I mean.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  I'm guessing.
6. JRJohn Rallo
  Maybe.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  What do you think?
8. JRJohn Rallo
  He plays it up with the secret juicing and the... It's easy, it's easy.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  I don't think you'd be talking that much shit if he was really...
10. MSMatt Serra
  No, but... No.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  I think every... He always looks the same.
12. GUGuest
  Yeah.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  He never tests positive.
14. GUGuest
  Yeah.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  And the guy has crazy genetics. Like, look how handsome he is. Look at that broad jaw.
16. JRJohn Rallo
  That is true. That is true.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  That guy's got freak genetics, just in looks and also in his build.
18. GUGuest
  He's been tested a billion times.
19. JRJohn Rallo
  A billion times.
20. GUGuest
  Yeah, never tested positive.
21. MSMatt Serra
  Most fuckers have chemists out there. Hey, you used to work for American Top Team. Tell us the secrets.
22. JRJohn Rallo
  (laughs)
23. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
24. GUGuest
  (laughs)
25. MSMatt Serra
  Tell us the secrets that they got over in that fucking... Tell the... Tell Dan White with his fucking mic called in-
26. JRJohn Rallo
  It's not a secret. It's not a secret.
27. MSMatt Serra
  I wanna know what the fuck happens over there.
28. GUGuest
  Listen, I am not going to Julianna Penya this one.
29. JRJohn Rallo
  (laughs)
30. MSMatt Serra
  No, I am not doing... No. I'm not doing that.
15:16 – 21:36
MMA history perspective: Aldo’s peak, BJ Penn’s prime, and leg-kick consequences
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Damn, dude. Do you think about all the fucking wars that a lot of people have forgot about?
2. GUGuest
  Oh.
3. Mm-hmm.
4. I go.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Because there's so many fights now.
6. GUGuest
  I know. Right?
7. Like it's not like when I was, when we were fighting back in the day. It was-
8. (laughs) It was-
9. It was far and few between, like-
10. It was an event 'cause there was only a few a year, you know?
11. Exactly.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Right. People forgot about Jose Aldo's beginnings.
13. GUGuest
  Man.
14. Bro, I didn't. (laughs)
15. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
16. GUGuest
  When he was in the WEC was there anybody really better?
17. JRJoe Rogan
  No.
18. GUGuest
  No.
19. He's a complete, complete fighter.
20. He, yeah, he's for sure the best WEC fighter out there.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  What... You can't... Look, you can't keep that pace, whatever that pace is when a guy is at the top of the food chain. You can't keep that pace up for very long.
22. GUGuest
  Man, he kept it for 10 years.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  I always say you have to look at a guy by where he was when he was at his best. Like if we're gonna do this like, "Who's the best guy ever?" Thing, that's why I always throw BJ Penn in there.
24. GUGuest
  Yeah.
25. Me too. Me too.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  'Cause BJ Penn... And, and you fought him.
27. GUGuest
  Yeah.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  BJ Penn in his fucking prime was a demon.
29. GUGuest
  And he ran through everybody.
30. We fought him.
21:36 – 28:11
Pereira vs Jamahal Hill controversy: the nut-shot reset, distance trap, and left-hook mechanics
1. JRJoe Rogan
  You don't want that guy angry. But Jamahal, like d- ... That fight, like there was that weird moment where he- Yeah. He kicked Jamahal in the nuts.
2. GUGuest
  Mm-hmm.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Or Jamahal kicked him in the nuts, rather.
4. GUGuest
  Yeah.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Uh, and he, and he waved ... When Herb Dean came off.
6. GUGuest
  When he waved the ref off.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  And he did a little step and then- Yeah, yeah, yeah. ... he got a little closer. Right. He got in the kitchen. Yeah. But Jamahal, I talked to Jamahal about that. Like, Jamahal called all of us on the broadcast. He was like, "Yo." Yeah. And he was like, he stepped on and got the angle and I couldn't move 'cause Herb Dean was there and- No, he's right. ... was there. He's definitely right. Yeah. But we didn't see it. Right. I didn't, I didn't see that. All I was thinking is, uh ... So there's so much happens, right? A guy gets kicked in the nuts. I'm like, "Oh, shit. Are they gonna ... Is he hurt?" First question is always, "Is this gonna fuck the fight up? Like, how long is this gonna be? Uh, okay, he's gotta s- take a break. Is he gonna be okay?" 'Cause I think, like, every time you get kicked in the nuts, one point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Every time you get an eye poke, one point. 'Cause even if it's an accident, if you get slammed in your nuts and then you have to go back to fighting two minutes later- That's, I mean, that's the side effect. ... you've been affected.
8. GUGuest
  Yeah, no doubt.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Two minutes ago you couldn't even fight. Yeah, no doubt. And now all of a sudden you're supposed to fight full clip- Yeah. ... against a guy who's trying to kill you- Right. ... who just cracked you in the nuts? (phone vibrates) Who's that? Is that you, Dean? Is that you, Matt?
10. GUGuest
  Not me.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Definitely not me.
12. GUGuest
  I'm a professional.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Who is it?
14. GUGuest
  I'm on airplane mode.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Hold on. Let me see.
16. GUGuest
  I think it's his iPhone.
17. It's an iPhone.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh! Is that you, Dean?
19. GUGuest
  It's his iPhone.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  It is me.
21. GUGuest
  Oh, no.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  You son of a bitch. You son of a bitch.
23. GUGuest
  Hold on, man. Wait a minute. I gotta tell you.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Bastard.
25. GUGuest
  I'll tell you what. Hold your own.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  You know what it was? You know what it was?
27. GUGuest
  Dean gets the smelling salts for that.
28. No. Uh, I've been listening to you motherfuckers in-
29. (laughs)
30. ... telling me to get a iPhone and I don't know how to work it.
28:11 – 31:57
Men, emotions, and “Chimp Crazy”: why pet chimps are a nightmare
1. JRJoe Rogan
  I cried, I cried the other night-
2. JRJohn Rallo
  I was just gonna see if you do.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Watching Chimp Crazy.
4. JRJohn Rallo
  What?
5. GUGuest
  What?
6. JRJoe Rogan
  There's a show... Oh my God, it was a HBO show. What's Max now? Whatever it is.
7. JRJohn Rallo
  (laughs)
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Uh, it's a docuseries about people that own chimpanzees.
9. JRJohn Rallo
  Oh.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Dude, it's-
11. GUGuest
  That can't end well.
12. JRJohn Rallo
  Wait, wait, hold on.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Horrific.
14. JRJohn Rallo
  What made you cry about that?
15. JRJoe Rogan
  It's horrific, man.
16. JRJohn Rallo
  Oh, wait, wait. With the, with the-
17. JRJoe Rogan
  With the chimp, when the chimps tear people apart-
18. JRJohn Rallo
  Oh, that's what you-
19. JRJoe Rogan
  They tear, they tear your face off.
20. JRJohn Rallo
  I know, what, they bite your face?
21. JRJoe Rogan
  They tear your eyes off, they bite your fingers off.
22. JRJohn Rallo
  Oh.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  They pull your dick off. Dude, it was... There's so many moments in that show where you're just like, "What the fuck?" It just, it's so sad.
24. JRJohn Rallo
  Oh, is there anything happy in it, or no?
25. GUGuest
  Oh, no. (laughs)
26. JRJoe Rogan
  No, no, no, no, there's nothing happy in this show. There's nothing happy in this show. This show is all about what happens when people have pet chimps and the chimps get to be about five years old and they don't wanna listen to you anymore because they're a 200 pound fucking super predator.
27. GUGuest
  For real.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  They can do whatever they want. Like, what they are, they're our closest relatives and they're really fucking smart and when they get to be, like, five years old, you can't even put them in a combination lock, they were telling me.
29. JRJohn Rallo
  Because they can-
30. JRJoe Rogan
  They'll figure out the combination. They'll watch you do it.
31:57 – 51:37
Movie & TV rabbit hole: Westerns, The Boys “sauna” scene, zombie shows, and streaming rights
1. MSMatt Serra
  I gotta watch this. Bro, yeah. Remember that Clint Eastwood movie, fucking Any Which Way But Loose?
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. (laughs)
3. MSMatt Serra
  Awesome. I used to love those movies. And Any Which Way You Can. They had two of them.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  The best is bare knuckle boxer. Yeah.
5. MSMatt Serra
  The second one when they were gonna have that fight. Philo Betto.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
7. MSMatt Serra
  And then it's gonna be, "Oh, they hurt, they're still fighting?" And then it's, you know, guys, they are different... "Oh, let's get on the plane and let's go see the fight." (laughs) Dude, they're fighting for fucking two hours, these guys. You're like, "Where are they?" (laughs) Like across the state.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  And the T- Who's that guy's name? Tank Murdock? Is that the guy's name? (laughs)
9. MSMatt Serra
  That's the guy's name, the first one, yeah. (laughs) They became friends at the end. I remember all that shit. Philo Metto was Clint's name.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh.
11. MSMatt Serra
  Yeah. Philo Betto. Yeah. Yeah, and they had the right turn, Clyde. Right, right turn, Clyde.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  You know, it's funny because back then, you would never think that people were actually having bare knuckle fights for money. And now it's on pay-per-view.
13. MSMatt Serra
  (laughs)
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, yeah. I know, right? (laughs)
15. MSMatt Serra
  So that's the original Mike Perry.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  But you'd be like, there was never gonna be bare knuckle boxing-
17. MSMatt Serra
  I'll tell you, man.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  ... as a sport. That's crazy. So this was just some backyard shit that people would do. Like, this is the, this is the big killer. This is the guy that's like the, the big money champion and he's gonna eventually fight him.
19. MSMatt Serra
  Yeah, at the end of it.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  And he's watching Clint-
21. MSMatt Serra
  Yep.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and he steps in to help him and he starts fucking some people up. (laughs)
23. NANarrator
  (laughs)
24. MSMatt Serra
  We didn't even know what was... Yeah.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  This is awesome.
26. MSMatt Serra
  We didn't even know what real fighting was back then, like-
27. JRJoe Rogan
  I had no idea. Somebody needs to redo... Well, all those things he did would work. I mean, it's not crazy. He's not doing any like jump split kicks.
28. MSMatt Serra
  I used to like these movies as a kid. I loved these, loved them.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, these movies were great.
30. MSMatt Serra
  Just movie, this movie was great. Clint Eastwood was the fucking man.
51:37 – 1:05:56
Meth, real-world chaos, and dark fighter stories: North Hollywood shootout to CTE
1. JRJoe Rogan
  If there was no meth, what, how much less crime would there be?
2. NANarrator
  (laughs) A lot.
3. MSMatt Serra
  Oh, 50%?
4. NANarrator
  Yeah, for sure.
5. MSMatt Serra
  (laughs)
6. JRJoe Rogan
  I mean, if you think about how many ridiculous crimes get cooked up while they're on meth, literally.
7. NANarrator
  Or to get the meth.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
9. MSMatt Serra
  Right. Yeah. Yeah. To get, yeah. Meth influence.
10. NANarrator
  (laughs)
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Do you remember that North Hollywood shootout? It was just like the movie Heat.
12. MSMatt Serra
  Oh, yes. They were in body armor and shit.
13. NANarrator
  Yeah. I thought, I thought that's gonna be-
14. JRJoe Rogan
  These dudes had body armor. They had like fucking big giant machine guns and shit. There was-
15. MSMatt Serra
  Oh, yeah.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  They, they-
17. NANarrator
  They were literally just walking up the street blasting people.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Apparently they were roided outta their fucking minds. These dudes are roided outta their minds, doing coke, and they robbed this bank in North Hollywood. And the cops boxed them in. They had a shootout on the street.
19. MSMatt Serra
  Oh, yeah.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  I was, I was on news radio at the time. We stopped production of the show to watch it on television.
21. MSMatt Serra
  (laughs)
22. NANarrator
  Really?
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Everybody was like, "What the fuck is going on?"
24. MSMatt Serra
  What the hell.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  It was so crazy.
26. NANarrator
  How far from you was it?
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Real close.
28. NANarrator
  Yeah.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Real close. Like we, we were in Studio City. North Hollywood's 15 minutes away, 10 minutes away.
30. MSMatt Serra
  Hmm.

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Settling on the show name: “Protect Ya Neck” (Wu-Tang energy)

Finger degloving horror & why fighters wear rubber rings

Handshake etiquette, grip-douches, and why guys posture around fighters

The intimidation factor of heavyweights: meeting Ngannou in person

Ferreira vs Bader breakdown + Bellator testing jokes + Bobby Lashley freak genetics

‘Natty or not?’ genetics talk, then Sean Brady vs Gilbert Burns (grappling chess)

MMA history perspective: Aldo’s peak, BJ Penn’s prime, and leg-kick consequences

Pereira vs Jamahal Hill controversy: the nut-shot reset, distance trap, and left-hook mechanics

Men, emotions, and “Chimp Crazy”: why pet chimps are a nightmare

Movie & TV rabbit hole: Westerns, The Boys “sauna” scene, zombie shows, and streaming rights

Meth, real-world chaos, and dark fighter stories: North Hollywood shootout to CTE

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