JRE MMA Show #20 with Yves Edwards

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   ... and we're live.…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:07

      ... and we're live. Yves Edwards, ladies and gentlemen. You're one of those dudes that has that book cover for your phone. I tried to rock the book cover. After a while, I'm like, "What am I doing here with this extra step where I gotta open up a book to get to my phone?"

   2. YEYves Edwards0:23

      I like it because I forget things a lot, so like, I don't like having a wallet and a phone when I leave somewhere, like especially even a house. I leave the house with my phone, but I don't have my cash or my cards or something like that, so-

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:34

      Mm. I got a solution for you. It's called a motherfucking fanny pack.

   4. YEYves Edwards0:37

      (laughs)

   5. YVYoung Jamie Vernon0:37

      (laughs)

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:38

      That's right, Yves Edwards. You're a cool dude. You think you can g- you're cool enough to rock one of these? Like, are you cool enough to get past the social pariah aspect of this bag that you wear around your waist?

   7. YEYves Edwards0:50

      I don't have that much shit with me most of the time.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:52

      Well, it's not that much shit. There's a lot of shit in here, but this is a w- a weird day. I have like keys and sh... I have a knife in there and stuff. But most of the time it's just light. I travel light with that. Look at that. Who's ga- who's that?

   9. YVYoung Jamie Vernon1:05

      Uh, I believe Quavo from Migos.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:07

       Uh, I have no idea who you just said.

   11. YVYoung Jamie Vernon1:09

       (laughs) He's a popular rapper, so-

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:10

       But that is a ridic... He- Is he a popular fellow?

   13. YVYoung Jamie Vernon1:12

       Yes.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:12

       I'm an old man, dude.

   15. YEYves Edwards1:13

       Quavo's a popular-

   16. YVYoung Jamie Vernon1:13

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:13

       I'm an old man who listens to The Allman Brothers, all right?

   18. YEYves Edwards1:16

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:16

       (laughs) But that one that he's got on is preposterous.

   20. YVYoung Jamie Vernon1:20

       He's very fancy.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:21

       You might as well have a laptop k- hanging around his waist.

   22. YEYves Edwards1:23

       Yeah, he's also got like holes in his jeans.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:25

       Yeah, that's ridiculous. What'd you get attacked by, a tiger, sir?

   24. YVYoung Jamie Vernon1:28

       He's also got a lot of em- jewelry.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:29

       All that jewelry.

   26. YEYves Edwards1:30

       In the '80s.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:31

       Yeah. He's kind of ridiculous looking. Go b- but make that, make that bigger again so I can take a look at this gentleman.

   28. YVYoung Jamie Vernon1:39

       Well, this is a light version too. I probably could have found a better picture.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:42

       He's got a lot going on. Those pants are preposterous. That's the most preposterous thing. Like, I guess the shoes, if you're like, you want to go out but you also want to go bowling, you might wear those shoes.

   30. YEYves Edwards1:52

       (laughs)
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      A take-down with an immediate stand up, like if someone takes you down and you're right back up, that is not a whole lot different than you blocking a kick.

   2. YEYves Edwards15:06

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:07

      You know? Does blocking a kick count? If you get your knee up and your elbow up and you catch one right here, are you counting that as something that got through?

   4. YEYves Edwards15:13

      As... Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:14

      Right? No.

   6. YEYves Edwards15:14

      No?

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:14

      You're not.

   8. YEYves Edwards15:15

      So w-

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:15

      You know who does?

   10. YEYves Edwards15:16

       Who?

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:16

       Greg Jackson. He's a-

   12. YEYves Edwards15:17

       Does he?

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:17

       ... great coach, man. (laughs) I don't-

   14. YEYves Edwards15:19

       He counts that?

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:20

       He... So he- he... I think he does this psychological thing. I'm letting the cat out of the bag (laughs) with this one.

   16. YEYves Edwards15:25

       (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:25

       'Cause, uh, I'm in the cage with- with Isaac Valleyflag, and Isaac throws a kick and I block it. And Greg's like, "It's a great kick, Isaac! Great kick, Ike! That landed ne-" You know? And I'm like... And then he does something else and it doesn't affect me, but he's cheering him on like it does. And I'm like, "Is he doing that for the ra- for the judges?" (laughs) 'Cause that- that... I- I'm like... And I went back to the corner and I told Mike. I was like, "Mike, he's- he's cheering him on, getting... Kind of getting the judges on his side." Mike's like, "Don't worry about that. This is what you need to do." Yeah, you gotta get that shit out of your head.

   18. YEYves Edwards15:52

       Yeah, for sure.

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:53

       Yeah, for sure. But if he's right there, like if you see where one corner is and then the other corner is when the fight is not going on, they're over there by the stairs.

   20. YEYves Edwards16:02

       Yes.

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:02

       The judge is right there.

   22. YEYves Edwards16:03

       Yep.

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:04

       The judge is just a few feet over.

   24. YEYves Edwards16:05

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:05

       And if they're enthusiastic, like, (clapping hands) "Yes, you got it! You got it! You got it!" Those judges, a certain percent, let's say 30, don't know what the fuck they're watching.

   26. YEYves Edwards16:14

       (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:14

       And so they are very susceptible-

   28. YEYves Edwards16:15

       Can we say a name? No, I'm just kidding.

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:16

       No, let's not say any names.

   30. YEYves Edwards16:18

       (laughs)
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Yeah, I agree. I…

   1. YEYves Edwards30:00

      So it's, it's gonna take a while. It'll happen eventually but, man, there, there is so much in this sp- like, there should be something that changes every year.

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:08

      Yeah, I agree. I think they sh- they've gotta figure out something with the eye pokes.

   3. YEYves Edwards30:12

      Yeah.I, I, I feel like there's, I think some- I don't know, it might have been you. I feel 'cause it was a, it was a, an announcer or commentator or something talking about it. But having like a, a glove just that covers the fingers-

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:25

      Yeah.

   5. YEYves Edwards30:25

      ... but it doesn't really change anything. Even, even so much so that like it's a webbing.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:30

      Yes.

   7. YEYves Edwards30:30

      And that your fingers are still virtually individual.

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:33

      Mm-hmm.

   9. YEYves Edwards30:33

      You know, but you can bring them all down together or you can just put those two on.

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:37

       Yeah.

   11. YEYves Edwards30:37

       And these two are gonna be tugged at, but it takes no effort.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:39

       Right.

   13. YEYves Edwards30:39

       You know what I mean?

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:40

       Yeah.

   15. YEYves Edwards30:40

       Um, something's, a, a covering like that with the padding over the front-

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:43

       Mm-hmm.

   17. YEYves Edwards30:44

       ... so that it doesn't go in the eyes as a single point. You know, but, are, is, is there anybody even playing with prototypes or something like that and, and d- doing a, an exhibition or demonstration?

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:57

       It's a good question.

   19. YEYves Edwards30:58

       You know?

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:58

       I haven't seen anything compelling. I haven't seen anybody come up with anything. Yeah, it was my idea. My idea was to have it like, um, like, like a, like a old school bag glove.

   21. YEYves Edwards31:08

       Yeah, yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:09

       You know? Like those old school-

   23. YEYves Edwards31:10

       Like oven mitt almost.

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:10

       You see Joe Louis with those old school bag gloves? Those, it's a very thin glove-

   25. YEYves Edwards31:14

       Yep.

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:14

       ... that would like cover the tips and they used to hit the bag with them back in like the fucking 20s.

   27. YEYves Edwards31:18

       Yeah, it was just like leather.

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:19

       Yeah.

   29. YEYves Edwards31:19

       It's all... And then maybe, maybe that's what it is.

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:22

       Yeah.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Right. …

   1. YEYves Edwards45:00

      engine wouldn't stay on, you know?

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:01

      Right.

   3. YEYves Edwards45:01

      Um, I was like, "Really?" I was like, "How much does that cost?" And I was broke, it was, I was in f- I was just fighting (laughs) you know? I was, there was no UFC even on the horizon yet. Um, and, um, I'm like, "How much does that cost?" And I was like, "Too much. Shit." I was like, he's like, "I can do it for you." He was like, "You can do it?" I was like, "How many you gonna..." I was like, "I can't afford that either."

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:20

      Right.

   5. YEYves Edwards45:20

      "But if you can do it, I'll figure it out." So I went to the store, I was like, "Hey, I need to buy an alternator for this, this model car." They were like, "Okay." They bring it out and they're like... They weren't going, they weren't gonna give it to me 'cause you have to give them the other one back. You have to exchange it.

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:34

      Really?

   7. YEYves Edwards45:35

      Yeah. Like, at least this is the way it was in like 2000 Texas, you know?

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:38

      Oh, okay.

   9. YEYves Edwards45:39

      So, um, but fortunately one of the managers at that store was one of my students-

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:43

       Oh.

   11. YEYves Edwards45:43

       ... who lived right across the street from my gym. So I was like, he was like, "Here, you can take it, just bring the alternator back." I was like, "Awesome." Because I didn't know what an alternator was.

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:50

       Right.

   13. YEYves Edwards45:50

       My plan was to grab it, go look at my engine and s- like find (laughs) just find the like thing.

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:55

       Right.

   15. YEYves Edwards45:55

       You know? So that's what I did, I found the like thing, I put it in there, um, I changed it. I took the other one back, but I couldn't get the belt on.

   16. JRJoe Rogan46:02

       Of course.

   17. YEYves Edwards46:02

       I did everything that... I was trying to do everything and somebody was like, "The tensioning bolt." And I was like, "I don't know what you're talking about." And I slept on it. I went to bed that night, I went to sleep and I woke up, (snaps fingers) ran downstairs, connected it. You know? Like, I, I, 'cause overnight-

   18. JRJoe Rogan46:16

       Yeah.

   19. YEYves Edwards46:16

       ... th- there was something about being relaxed and not being, like, stressed about trying to find it right now. It's right in front of me.

   20. JRJoe Rogan46:21

       Yeah.

   21. YEYves Edwards46:22

       I'm just away from it and I see the whole engine in my sleep and it's like, you put the ratchet in there and you pull on it, and that's, that's the tensioning bolt.

   22. JRJoe Rogan46:30

       I have a, a crazy spiritual idea about that. I think when you go to sleep you go into the spirit world. When you come back, you're refreshed. I think you live a new life every morning. Think you live on the momentum of your past life-

   23. YEYves Edwards46:44

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan46:44

       ... but I think you have a new life every morning. You just return from the spirit world with the mess that you left behind-

   25. YEYves Edwards46:49

       (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:49

       ... and you gotta clean it up. Clean it up and figure it out, and like, "Oh yeah, yeah. I shoulda just cranked that bolt over there. Okay." It all makes sense.

   27. YEYves Edwards46:57

       There's something to that, 'cause I got some stuff going on now where I'm just like, when I wake up the next day, I'm like, "You know what? It's not that big of a deal."

   28. JRJoe Rogan47:04

       It's not that big of a deal.

   29. YEYves Edwards47:06

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan47:06

       Most things are not that big of a deal.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:06:09

   Right. …

   1. YEYves Edwards1:00:00

      it starts going down. You get to '10, it's like it's still less, but you still gotta scroll across the screen. Then you get to like '07 or you get to like '08 and it's like five events.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:08

      Right.

   3. YEYves Edwards1:00:08

      Five events, five events, and that's it. You know? Like, I have 21 UFC fights under my belt, but there were five UFCs a year back then.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:19

      Yeah.

   5. YEYves Edwards1:00:19

      It's like, like now there's like two months you get like 6, 7, 7 cards.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:24

      Well, I feel-

   7. YEYves Edwards1:00:25

      But that's cool.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:25

      I always felt like you got fucked, and, uh, Josh Thompson and a lot of guys in your era, 'cause you- they cut out the 55 pound division for a long time. And then you went out and fought up Bodog and all these other organizations. There was no 55 for how many years?

   9. YEYves Edwards1:00:39

      (sighs) Um.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:41

       Quite a few.

   11. YEYves Edwards1:00:41

       Shoot. Yeah, like 2004 to 2000- 2005 to, like, 2010 for sure.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:48

       Damn.

   13. YEYves Edwards1:00:48

       'Cause it didn't come back until, um, The Ultimate Fighter.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:51

       Mm-hmm. Yeah, like that's when Gilbert and Josh Thompson were having those epic wars over in Strikeforce.

   15. YEYves Edwards1:00:57

       Strikeforce. Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:00:58

       It's like those years, like there was those guys, like you, Thompson, and I feel like Gilbert... Gilbert staked his claim in the UFC and had some epic fights in the UFC, but I honestly don't think we see the same Gilbert that we saw in Strikeforce.

   17. YEYves Edwards1:01:13

       Yeah. Yeah, no.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:01:14

       We... No one... Uh, no one could say better than you, 'cause you've been in there, that... How much those wars will just take out of you.

   19. YEYves Edwards1:01:22

       They will. And a guy like, like... The wars that Gilbert and Josh went through at Strikeforce.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:01:28

       Woo.

   21. YEYves Edwards1:01:28

       And then Gilbert is that kind of guy. He's just... Just like his fight with Diego.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:01:32

       Blood and guts, you know?

   23. YEYves Edwards1:01:33

       That's it. They're not, they're not backing down and, um, they got the chins to take it.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:37

       Yeah.

   25. YEYves Edwards1:01:37

       You know? There's not, there's not a lot of guys that can, that can take it like that. Um, I haven't been in a lot of wars that, that were back and forth. Even if the, the fight had some attrition, there was a lot of times it was, um... I was winning the striking battle and I wasn't taking as many shots as those guys have taken.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:54

       Right.

   27. YEYves Edwards1:01:54

       Um, and they... You have to have a chin to do that.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:57

       Yeah.

   29. YEYves Edwards1:01:58

       Man, like I, I couldn't imagine (laughs) to this day, having been in... Having... I have like... My record shows like 60-something fights, I have like 80-plus fights overall and I still... Like, I look at some of those fights like Diego and Gilbert and I'm like, man.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:02:16

       (laughs)

Episode duration: 3:11:59