The Joe Rogan Experience

JRE MMA Show #24 with Kevin Lee

Joe sits down with UFC Lightweight fighter Kevin Lee to discuss his recent fight.

Joe RoganhostKevin LeeguestGuest (secondary participant, likely in-studio friend/producer)guest

Apr 22, 20182h 19mWatch on YouTube ↗

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Kevin Lee Breaks Down Barboza Win, Weight Cuts, and Fighting Culture

Kevin Lee joins Joe Rogan just days after his dominant win over Edson Barboza to dissect the fight, his evolving style, and the importance of being a well‑rounded mixed martial artist. He explains how specific training choices—like yoga, dance, and non‑traditional strength work—have transformed his balance, durability, and endurance. The conversation dives deep into weight cutting, staph infections, and the mental and physical toll of fighting at the elite level. Beyond MMA, Lee opens up about race, identity, upbringing in Detroit, and how exposure to different people and ideas reshaped his confidence and worldview.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Develop true well‑roundedness instead of relying on one base.

Lee emphasizes being able to wrestle with elite wrestlers, strike with elite strikers, and kick with top kickboxers, believing that covering all ranges and styles is the only way to thrive long‑term at lightweight.

Use nontraditional training—yoga, ballet, salsa—to improve balance and recovery.

He credits hot yoga, vinyasa, and even dance classes for better footwork, balance, and body awareness, which he believes contributed directly to his quick recovery after Barboza’s wheel kick and overall durability.

Prioritize joint health and functional strength over heavy lifting.

Working with a Performance Institute–style coach, Lee focuses on calisthenics, joint‑range loading, and light resistance instead of weights, aiming to be strong in every direction and reduce injury risk.

Refine weight‑cut timing, not just pounds lost.

Lee explains that early‑morning weigh‑ins and illness threw off his usual cut schedule, arguing that many misses are timing issues and advocating for added divisions like 165/175 to reduce extreme dehydration.

Treat losses and scares as technical and mental lessons, not excuses.

He breaks down how the Leonardo Santos KO and the Tony Ferguson staph‑fight forced him to respect opponents in all areas, listen to his coaches’ “voice of reason,” and refine his approach to camp, ego, and health.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

My goal when I got into this sport was to be the most well‑rounded, complete fighter there is.

— Kevin Lee

I try not to be ‘fake it till you make it’—it was more like fake it till I became it.

— Kevin Lee

If you don’t have your health, you don’t have nothing.

— Kevin Lee

We’re all the same—literally all the same. We just grow up in different communities.

— Kevin Lee

One of the most beautiful things about MMA is all these different cultures coming together into one boiling pot.

— Kevin Lee

Technical breakdown of Kevin Lee vs. Edson Barboza and prior fightsTraining philosophy: switch‑stance striking, wrestling, yoga, dance, and non‑weightlifting strength workWeight cutting strategies, early‑morning weigh‑ins, and potential new UFC weight classesHealth issues in camp: staph infections, antibiotics, and natural remediesFight preparation vs. media obligations, mindset, and learning from lossesDebates on refereeing, corners stopping fights, and sparring intensity for longevityRace, identity, community influence, and how exposure and travel changed Lee’s perspective

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