JRE MMA Show #37 with Mark DellaGrotte

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (humming) Five, four, three,…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (humming) Five, four, three, two, one. Boom, and we're live, Mark DellaGrotte.

   2. MDMark DellaGrotte0:09

      What up?

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:10

      Most of the time, if you and I are talking on a microphone, it's when you're in the truck and I'm talking to you and you know, and like right before a big fight.

   4. MDMark DellaGrotte0:17

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      People don't realize, like, you're, you're the guy I talk to.

   6. MDMark DellaGrotte0:19

      Yeah, man. A lot of shit talking going on. (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:21

      I do a lot of shit talking. A lot of things that we probably shouldn't say. (laughs)

   8. MDMark DellaGrotte0:25

      (laughs) Luckily, it doesn't make the broadcast, so that's good.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:27

      Well, when that one got leaked when, uh, Aldo was about to fight Conor.

   10. MDMark DellaGrotte0:31

       Yeah, what was that?

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       And I said, "He does not look good." I, I said, "He looks nervous as fuck."

   12. MDMark DellaGrotte0:35

       I remember that.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       I go, "His body looks flat."

   14. MDMark DellaGrotte0:37

       Soft and flat, yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       Yeah, and then he got flatlined.

   16. MDMark DellaGrotte0:39

       Yeah, well-

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:40

       Yeah.

   18. MDMark DellaGrotte0:41

       ... you were right. (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:41

       I was right in that regard.

   20. MDMark DellaGrotte0:43

       That did make program, didn't it?

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       Well, people... What happened was somebody recorded it. It was, uh, I was talking to you, I think.

   22. MDMark DellaGrotte0:51

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:51

       And I was talking to Bruce.

   24. MDMark DellaGrotte0:52

       Mm-hmm.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:53

       And, um, it just, uh, somebody just decided to be a little twat and leaked that shit.

   26. MDMark DellaGrotte0:59

       Dude, I'm paranoid in that truck sometimes-

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:00

       You have to be now.

   28. MDMark DellaGrotte1:01

       ... I'm gonna push the wrong fucking button, and now I'm gonna be talking shit to you or Mair and-

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       (laughs)

   30. MDMark DellaGrotte1:06

       ... something. (laughs)
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   No, Alex Gong got…

   1. MDMark DellaGrotte15:00

      he ... No?

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      No, Alex Gong got killed in a ... Someone, someone did something, and he went out. Like, someone fucked with his car or something like that.

   3. MDMark DellaGrotte15:08

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:08

      And he went outside.

   5. MDMark DellaGrotte15:09

      Someone hit his car.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:09

      And, and someone murdered him.

   7. MDMark DellaGrotte15:11

      The way I heard it was he was training in the gym, and somebody sideswiped or hit his car or something.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:15

      Something like that.

   9. MDMark DellaGrotte15:15

      It was something like that. He ran down the street after him in a pair of fucking boxing gloves.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:19

       Mm-hmm.

   11. MDMark DellaGrotte15:20

       Which probably wasn't, you know, I mean, obviously you, you see some fucking savage running up to your window-

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:23

       Yeah.

   13. MDMark DellaGrotte15:23

       ... with a pair of boxing gloves on, so the guy shot him.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:26

       Yeah, it was-

   15. MDMark DellaGrotte15:27

       But I think the guy had some mental history, and he was like, you know, he was unstable or something like that. And I ... From what I understood, I thought the guy actually committed suicide.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:35

       There it is. Suspect, yep, you're right.

   17. MDMark DellaGrotte15:37

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:37

       Suspect in a kickboxing shooting-

   19. MDMark DellaGrotte15:39

       I think he killed himself after.

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:40

       ... killed himself.

   21. MDMark DellaGrotte15:41

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:41

       Yeah. Man.

   23. MDMark DellaGrotte15:41

       That was fucked up, man. What a, what a, uh, a waste though, huh?

   24. JRJoe Rogan15:45

       Yeah, guy crashed into his parked car so he chafed after him.

   25. MDMark DellaGrotte15:47

       There it is, yeah. I didn't even-

   26. JRJoe Rogan15:49

       Man.

   27. MDMark DellaGrotte15:49

       ... I just fucking, I thought I was making shit up for a minute there.

   28. JRJoe Rogan15:51

       Yeah.

   29. MDMark DellaGrotte15:51

       Nah man, it, that's sad, man. He was a great fighter, man. I remember watching, like, remember like ISK, like, kickboxing-

   30. JRJoe Rogan15:56

       Mm-hmm.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   How did he do…

   1. MDMark DellaGrotte30:00

      shoulder, I see Anderson's face, and he's laughing at George. I'm like, "Fuck." And then he just blitzed him.

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:06

      How did he do that? Did he roll with him slightly? Like, what did he do?

   3. MDMark DellaGrotte30:10

      Dude, I think it's, it's all a matter of like, you know, using your shoulders to protect impact, you know, shrugging, so to say. The first, first thing is bite-... first line-

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:17

      Yeah.

   5. MDMark DellaGrotte30:17

      ... of defense, bite down, second-

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:19

      Right.

   7. MDMark DellaGrotte30:19

      ... line of defense, brace your neck, you know? And he just-

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:21

      Yeah.

   9. MDMark DellaGrotte30:22

      Dude, I mean, he's got a fucking pumpkin head. He's got a big dome, dude. (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:25

       Well, I mean, but you stop and think about later in his career, he couldn't take those kind of shots.

   11. MDMark DellaGrotte30:30

       Yeah. They add up after a while, I guess.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:31

       Yeah.

   13. MDMark DellaGrotte30:31

       But back in the day, man, I remember coming into that. You know, I had followed Muay Thai, I had followed shoot box, I'd follow, you know, Pele, those guys.

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:38

       Mm-hmm.

   15. MDMark DellaGrotte30:38

       So I knew Anderson Silva. A lot of people like, "Oh, who's this guy, Anderson Silva? He's coming over." A lot of people didn't know him. So I knew what we were getting into. I knew what type of fight it was. But the, the funny thing is when he came to the UFC, remember he debuted, I was there at the Hard Rock, uh, the Joint-

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:51

       Oh, yeah.

   17. MDMark DellaGrotte30:51

       ... against Chris Leben.

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:52

       Chris Leben. Whoo!

   19. MDMark DellaGrotte30:52

       And everybody's like, "Oh, dude, the bets." Like, I was like, I saw the odds at like the Mandalay and I was like, "Dude, I'm all over this, dude."

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:58

       What were the bet- what was the odds?

   21. MDMark DellaGrotte30:59

       It was just something crazy I forget at the time, but like, it was, they had Leben like, like being like the favorite, the favorite.

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:05

       Ooh!

   23. MDMark DellaGrotte31:05

       I was like, "Dude, nobody knows him."

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:06

       Oh, my God.

   25. MDMark DellaGrotte31:07

       I was like-

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:08

       I knew him.

   27. MDMark DellaGrotte31:09

       Yeah, I knew him too, man.

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:10

       I remember during the promo, one of the things-

   29. MDMark DellaGrotte31:11

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:11

       ... I said is, "You gotta be ready for this guy."
4. 45:00 – 57:57

   Mm-hmm. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      but he fights correctly.

   2. MDMark DellaGrotte45:02

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:02

      I would say don't f- uh, I'll... No disrespect to Chris Lytle, who I love.

   4. MDMark DellaGrotte45:06

      Mm-hmm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:06

      He's a great fighter.

   6. MDMark DellaGrotte45:07

      Mm-hmm.

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:08

      I was just watching his f- his fight against Brian Foster. He was so skilled. Like, people forgot how good Chris Lytle was. Won that fight with a leg lock.

   8. MDMark DellaGrotte45:15

      Mm-hmm.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:15

      You know, and he's known as a brawler-

   10. MDMark DellaGrotte45:18

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:18

       ... but people forget, he fucking spun around, got that leg, and, and snatched it out-

   12. MDMark DellaGrotte45:22

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:22

       ... and extended it, and really fucked Brian's leg up.

   14. MDMark DellaGrotte45:24

       Yeah. Crafty veteran.

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:25

       He was a crafty guy-

   16. MDMark DellaGrotte45:26

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:26

       ... but brawled a lot.

   18. MDMark DellaGrotte45:28

       Yeah. For sure.

   19. JRJoe Rogan45:29

       I'm not a fan of braw- I'm a fan of watching-

   20. MDMark DellaGrotte45:31

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan45:31

       ... brawls when they take place.

   22. MDMark DellaGrotte45:33

       I'm, I'm not a fan as well either. You know, I mean, I'm more of a fan of, uh, of... And I train a lot of my guys like almost defensively, like backing up, like retreat fighting, you know?

   23. JRJoe Rogan45:41

       Mm-hmm.

   24. MDMark DellaGrotte45:41

       Constantly trying to jockey for position. I call it like right place, right time, all the time in that line of fire. You know, we're, we're jockeying for that position, you know, and it's... A lot of times it's easier just to take a step back. If we're fighting each other, we're standing in front of each other, I take a step back, what do you naturally do? You walk to me.

   25. JRJoe Rogan45:57

       Right.

   26. MDMark DellaGrotte45:57

       So it's the timing of catching them on the way in. And guys like, you know, the great fighters, in my opinion, are, are more like defensive fighters. Like you, like you said earlier-

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:06

       Mm-hmm.

   28. MDMark DellaGrotte46:06

       ... about Chris Weidman coming in with Anderson Silva or Forrest Griffin-

   29. JRJoe Rogan46:09

       Sure.

   30. MDMark DellaGrotte46:09

       ... trying to attack. Like, you're more vulnerable, like recklessly, like you said, like brawling, recklessly coming in against somebody skilled as Anderson Silva or Demetrious Johnson, you know. So-

Episode duration: 2:03:47