JRE MMA Show #50 with Yves Edwards

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   Powerful job. …

   1. YEYves Edwards0:00

      Powerful job.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:02

      Here we go, four, three, two... Hello, E-Valence Woods. What's going on, my friend?

   3. YEYves Edwards0:11

      Not much, my man. It's-

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      What is that shirt? What is it, uh, a moon smiley face?

   5. YEYves Edwards0:14

      Yeah, graffitiing the moon.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      Oh.

   7. YEYves Edwards0:17

      You know me and my smiley faces.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      Yeah. People would graffiti the moon if they get up there.

   9. YEYves Edwards0:20

      If they could, right? (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:21

       That's probably the first thing they're gonna have to worry about, these Virgin flights they're planning on going there.

   11. YEYves Edwards0:24

       (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       People leaving some shit that you can see from earth, you know?

   13. YEYves Edwards0:28

       Yeah. Pissing everywhere.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       Dude, so much to talk about, so much going on.

   15. YEYves Edwards0:32

       Yeah. There's, there's a lot going on in the world of MMA, in the world of Jujitsu.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       Yeah. Your world, MMA, even boxing. There's a lot of, a lot of shit going on in boxing.

   17. YEYves Edwards0:41

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:41

       Looks like we're gonna get Beon- Deontay Wilder. On, uh-

   19. YEYves Edwards0:44

       Oh.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       ... Monday, he's gonna be in here.

   21. YEYves Edwards0:45

       Oh, yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:46

       Yeah. He's, uh, he's saying... Did you see the video on his, uh, uh, Instagram? He shows that it's more than 10 seconds.

   23. YEYves Edwards0:52

       10 seconds? Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:53

       Yeah, it is. It's a fact. And he plays the clock. As soon as Tyson Fury goes down, then it's more than 10 seconds before he gets back up.

   25. YEYves Edwards1:00

       The only problem with that is, I mean, it's human error, right? You can't-

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:04

       Yeah.

   27. YEYves Edwards1:04

       You can't start immediately.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       Right.

   29. YEYves Edwards1:06

       You know? There's, there's always that little, that little space of time.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:08

       Isn't there supposed to be a guy on the sideline, though, that starts the count?
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Hate it. …

   1. YEYves Edwards15:00

      for MMA.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      Hate it.

   3. YEYves Edwards15:01

      I mean...

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:01

      So stupid. Doesn't make any sense.

   5. YEYves Edwards15:03

      Definitely not.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:03

      You got five-minute rounds, you're only using ten points. Like, w- why? 'Cause it was already there?

   7. YEYves Edwards15:07

      E- exactly.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:08

      Huh.

   9. YEYves Edwards15:08

      That's, that's the big thing for me because, I mean, we got aspects of jujitsu, we got aspects of wrestling, we got aspects of striking, boxing, and kickboxing, right? And we're using a rule set from boxing only.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:19

       Yeah, only. One set of weapons.

   11. YEYves Edwards15:21

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:21

       That's it.

   13. YEYves Edwards15:22

       And, like, how d- how does that, how does that quantify the take-downs and the, the grappling exchanges? It's...

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:27

       Right.

   15. YEYves Edwards15:27

       It's, I don't know.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:29

       It's crazy.

   17. YEYves Edwards15:29

       I, I, I disagree. I, I remember there were, they had all these different systems they were trying to work and I feel like at one point, I think Doc Rivers maybe had a-

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:37

       Doc Hamilton.

   19. YEYves Edwards15:37

       Doc Hamilton, sorry.

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:38

       Yeah, he had a-

   21. YEYves Edwards15:39

       Doc Rivers the basketball player. (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:41

       (laughs) Yeah, Doc Hamilton is an excellent system.

   23. YEYves Edwards15:43

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan15:43

       It was a half point system.

   25. YEYves Edwards15:45

       Right.

   26. JRJoe Rogan15:45

       Yeah, which was better, was better than what we're using now.

   27. YEYves Edwards15:49

       The Pride system was better.

   28. JRJoe Rogan15:50

       Yeah, the Pride system was better.

   29. YEYves Edwards15:51

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan15:51

       Judge the fight as a whole, and the last part of the fight is more important than the first fight of the fight.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Yeah. …

   1. YEYves Edwards30:00

      That's what I'm thinking.

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:01

      Yeah.

   3. YEYves Edwards30:01

      It's like, that's not a stranger, man.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:03

      Yeah. W- well, you know, that's some of the toughest guys grew up with brothers. There they are right here-

   5. YEYves Edwards30:08

      (laughs)

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:08

      ... beating the shit out of each other.

   7. YEYves Edwards30:09

      This, this is what I was thinking of.

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:10

      The thing is though, this is Massachusetts, man. Massachusetts is a fucking hard ass place. (clears throat) And they are fighting.

   9. YEYves Edwards30:18

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:18

       I mean, they're full blast kicks and punches.

   11. YEYves Edwards30:21

       And then their entire family is watching too.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:25

       Yeah. And they're f- they're having a real legit MMA fight.

   13. YEYves Edwards30:28

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:28

       I mean, th- look at that, that's s- what a bunch of psychos. They got little girls watching and shit. And they're on the grass, and he's beating the shit out of his brother. And he's better too.

   15. YEYves Edwards30:39

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:39

       Look at ... What kind of psycho family are the Lauzons?

   17. YEYves Edwards30:42

       (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:42

       Who are those-

   19. YEYves Edwards30:43

       (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:43

       Look at those (laughs) little girls in front of the fucking car. The whole family sitting there, "Oh, Uncle Joe is beating the shit."

   21. YEYves Edwards30:49

       "Oh, oh, oh, oh."

   22. JRJoe Rogan30:50

       Get you some of this! Oh, they have a ... They put a soundtrack on it? Oh, that's hilarious.

   23. YEYves Edwards30:55

       That's awesome.

   24. JRJoe Rogan30:56

       Yeah, let's not watch this. I like both these guys.

   25. YEYves Edwards30:59

       (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan30:59

       You got them in a triangle. Oh. Um, w- about Tyron though, like, I, I don't ... I mean, look, when, when Ali was, uh ... The whole thing about him-... refusing to fight in the draft, like, people hated him.

   27. YEYves Edwards31:12

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:12

       There was a lot of people that hated him. A lot of people that considered themself patriots, that thought... 'Cause before, we have to realize, like, now pretty much everybody thinks the Vietnam War was a terrible idea.

   29. YEYves Edwards31:21

       Right.

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:21

       The Gulf of Tonkin incident, (clears throat) which got everybody into Vietnam, was a false flag. It was all bullshit. We shouldn't have been there in the first place. Who knows what the real reason for being in Vietnam was, but a lot of people think it had to do with heroin and money and all kinds of other crazy shit, right? So when Ali said, "I'm not fighting in that war," back then, though, back then people thought he was a coward.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      you know. He's come, he comes from Rorion. That school, I mean, this is where Brian Ortega comes from. He's direct from those mats.

   2. YEYves Edwards45:06

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:07

      And his technique is like a razor blade. It's so sharp. It's so sharp and precise and so honed and just through drills and a constant emphasis on proper leverage and position. I mean, they are sticklers to that old style of jujitsu. Like, and some people... There's an unfortunate word that people like to use that sometimes pisses people off, like, Vitor Magalhaes used this to describe Minotauro, and he didn't mean it in a negative way, but he meant the basics. He's like, "His jujitsu is very basic." He, and people go, "Fuck you! My jis- jujitsu's basic?"

   4. YEYves Edwards45:38

      (laughs) Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:38

      But the basic is like the best.

   6. YEYves Edwards45:40

      The fundamentals.

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:41

      But these g- there's guys that have those basics, like Roger Gracie. His jujitsu is, he's mostly the basics. He's not doing any crazy De La Riva shit or anything that you've never seen before. Like, what was that?

   8. YEYves Edwards45:54

      Like, Barros de Barros.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:55

      Yeah, he's not doing anything we never saw it before.

   10. YEYves Edwards45:57

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:57

       It's strict, you know, guard pass, smashing on top, triangle mount, arm triangle, arm bar. Everything he does is classic jujitsu, but it's just so perfect. Everything, the leverage and the weight and the, the, the emphasis on, you know, uh, certain positions over others. It's all, like, basic, classic jujitsu, and that's Brian Ortega.

   12. YEYves Edwards46:20

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan46:20

       His jujitsu is just so rock solid fundamentals, you know?

   14. YEYves Edwards46:25

       He's all about fundamentals though. I mean-

   15. JRJoe Rogan46:27

       Yeah, man.

   16. YEYves Edwards46:28

       Even his box, he's not... I don't believe he's as good a boxer as, as Max, but he's fundamentally sound, strong and direct with his boxing. I mean, look, look, he, he knocked out Frankie.

   17. JRJoe Rogan46:39

       He knocked out Frankie. He submitted Moicano, who I think is one of the dark horses in that division.

   18. YEYves Edwards46:44

       Yeah, yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan46:45

       Renato Moicano is a fucking beast, man.

   20. YEYves Edwards46:47

       Yeah. Bro, Mike Brown-

   21. JRJoe Rogan46:48

       He's so good.

   22. YEYves Edwards46:48

       Mike Brown has nothing but praise for him, man. He's like, "That kid is legit. He's, he's gonna challenge for that title, for sure." You know?

   23. JRJoe Rogan46:54

       I believe that. I believe that. And he's super, like, respectful and intelligent, and like everything about him, I like. I love his, uh, his approach, the way he fights. And in that fight, Holloway, or excuse me, Ortega made him shoot, 'cause he was beating him standing up.

   24. YEYves Edwards47:10

       Yep.

   25. JRJoe Rogan47:10

       And he shot, and Ortega's like, "Thank you." Clink.

   26. YEYves Edwards47:13

       Blah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan47:14

       That guillotine is just a, a death grip. He's just got a vise, just clamps down on your fucking life.

   28. YEYves Edwards47:21

       Yeah, man.

   29. JRJoe Rogan47:21

       Ah.

   30. YEYves Edwards47:22

       There's no room.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:07:30

   (laughs) …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      tosses them around.

   2. YEYves Edwards1:00:01

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:01

      Slams dudes, you know? I mean, when you see him with Derrick Lewis, you're like, "Derrick has no business being in there with this dude." And Derrick is a legit 265 murderer.

   4. YEYves Edwards1:00:10

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:10

      Knockout puncher from hell and no business being in there with DC.

   6. YEYves Edwards1:00:14

      No, no. But then you saw that guy, uh, Wynn, DC's training partner at the, at the Affliction. Uh, not Affliction, at the, um, Tito Chuck fight.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:25

      Oh.

   8. YEYves Edwards1:00:26

      He fought Tom Lawler.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:27

      Oh, I didn't see that fight.

   10. YEYves Edwards1:00:29

       Oh. Yeah, he's like 5'6".

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:32

       Really?

   12. YEYves Edwards1:00:33

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:34

       5'6", 205. What is he, what, 85 or 205?

   14. YEYves Edwards1:00:36

       205.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:37

       Really?

   16. YEYves Edwards1:00:37

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:38

       5'6"?

   18. YEYves Edwards1:00:38

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:38

       Who is he?

   20. YEYves Edwards1:00:39

       Um, I forget his first name. Wynn is his last name. He fought Tom Lawler.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:00:44

       He's 5'6", 205.

   22. YEYves Edwards1:00:44

       He tr- he tr- he trains with DC. DC's like, "Yeah, this guy takes me down."

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:00:48

       What?

   24. YEYves Edwards1:00:48

       Um, "Yeah, he's a good wrestler." But it's funny 'cause he sprawled on Tom Lawler but he's on his feet, like, he's standing, but he sprawling. Tom Lawler's on his knees, like on his knees upright.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:00:57

       Wow.

   26. YEYves Edwards1:00:58

       And this kid's sprawling... I guess, yeah, I guess I'm older than him.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:00

       Does it tank?

   28. YEYves Edwards1:01:01

       This kid's sprawled on his head. Yeah. But he, he can, he can box too, but he's, he's little. He l- it looks a little awkward. He looks like a guy you're in a, you're in a, you're in a Walmart parking lot and you talk shit to him 'cause he's little.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01:12

       Yeah.

   30. YEYves Edwards1:01:12

       He'll fuck you up, man. (laughs)

Episode duration: 1:47:33