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JRE MMA Show #57 with TJ Dillashaw

Joe is joined by two-time and current UFC Bantamweight Champion, TJ Dillashaw to discuss his most recent fight and more.

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Jan 30, 20191h 53mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

TJ Dillashaw Dissects Cejudo Loss, Extreme Weight Cut, Future Plans

  1. TJ Dillashaw joins Joe Rogan to break down his controversial TKO loss to Henry Cejudo at flyweight, arguing the fight was prematurely stopped and that the behind-the-ear knockdown affected his balance, not his consciousness.
  2. He explains in detail the science-driven 12‑week process he used to safely reach 125 pounds under performance coach Sam Calavita, claiming he felt stronger and better conditioned than ever, rehydrating to 149 pounds on fight night.
  3. The conversation widens into training methodology, overtraining, recovery, and long-term health, including advanced monitoring, altitude simulation, red light therapy, and float tanks, as well as the importance of drilling versus hard sparring.
  4. They also discuss broader MMA topics: ESPN’s impact, matchmaking issues, heavyweight greats like Cain Velasquez, Bellator’s rise, and TJ’s business ventures and future ambitions at 125, 135, and even 145 pounds.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Use data, not guesswork, to plan training and weight cuts.

Dillashaw’s camp tracked heart-rate variability, sleep, hydration, body fat, and weekly target weights so precisely that Calavita could predict TJ’s morning weight and manage his cut to 125 with minimal last‑minute dehydration.

Prioritize structured drilling over constant hard sparring to extend your career.

TJ credits Duane Ludwig with shifting him from three–four brutal spars a week to intensive, technical drilling and selective live work, improving skills while reducing injuries and cumulative brain trauma.

Recovery days and cortisol management are as important as hard sessions.

Using overnight HRV data, TJ’s coaches adjust daily workloads and schedule true rest days; he emphasizes that hammering yourself without enough recovery crashes hormones like testosterone and ultimately performance.

Combine multiple recovery modalities for compound benefits, not as magic fixes.

Dillashaw stacks infrared sauna, red light therapy, massage, float tanks, occasional hyperbaric oxygen, and cryotherapy—but always within a larger program of sleep, nutrition, and load management rather than relying on any single tool.

Altitude adaptation can be trained via controlled hypoxia, not just moving to high elevation.

Instead of living and training at altitude full-time, TJ uses AltoLab hypoxic breathing sessions with strict protocols to safely boost red blood cell production and capillary density while still training hard at sea level.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

“Show me a champion or a high-level competitor that likes losing, and I’ll call you a liar.”

TJ Dillashaw

“I walked out at 149, a glycogen battery ready to go. I’ve never felt better before a fight.”

TJ Dillashaw

“I didn’t get beat because I was a 25‑pounder. I felt better than I’ve ever felt in my entire life.”

TJ Dillashaw

“This is the best time in the history of the world to see martial arts. There’s never been better martial arts, never.”

Joe Rogan

“I want to fight Henry Cejudo at whatever weight he wants… I want that win back.”

TJ Dillashaw

Controversial stoppage in Dillashaw vs. Cejudo and TJ’s perspective on the fightExtreme but highly structured weight cut to 125 lbs and performance scienceRole of coach Sam Calavita: data-driven training, nutrition, and recovery systemsOvertraining, heart-rate variability, altitude simulation, and advanced recovery toolsSparring vs. drilling, long-term brain health, and smarter training cultureState of MMA: ESPN deal, matchmaking (e.g., Hardy co-main), and heavyweight debatesTJ’s future plans: rematch with Cejudo, division choices, and business ventures

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