The Joe Rogan ExperienceJRE MMA Show #58 with Brendan Schaub
CHAPTERS
- 0:03 – 2:10
Quake LAN addiction, controllers vs. mouse-and-keyboard trash talk
Joe and Brendan kick off by talking about playing Quake 4 on a LAN, why it feels so chaotic, and how addictive it gets. They argue about controllers vs. mouse-and-keyboard and joke about the stereotypes (and money) in modern gaming culture.
- 2:10 – 4:03
“Training” talk, tough-guy gym culture, and working out while sick
The conversation detours into fitness culture and the language people use around workouts. They also compare powering through illness vs. resting, and how travel and lack of sleep make recovery harder.
- 4:03 – 8:17
Diego Sanchez vs. Mickey Gall: bite mark controversy and veteran toughness
Joe and Brendan break down Diego Sanchez’s win over Mickey Gall, including the bizarre biting incident and what it says about the fight. They emphasize Diego’s longevity, ferocity, and how younger fighters underestimate him.
- 8:17 – 9:55
Career longevity rabbit hole: old records, Shannon Rich’s insane résumé, and CBD talk
They pull up fighter histories and marvel at how long some athletes compete, including Shannon Rich’s staggering record. The thread evolves into CBD use among fighters and Diego’s CBD business.
- 9:55 – 11:11
Zabit vs. Jeremy Stephens: hype, expectations, and what “stock” really means
They revisit Zabit Magomedsharipov vs. Jeremy Stephens and disagree on whether Zabit’s performance matched the hype. Joe highlights the danger Stephens brings, while Brendan weighs the fight against sky-high expectations.
- 11:11 – 14:38
Cody Garbrandt vs. Pedro Muñoz: ‘seeing red,’ discipline, and rebound paths
Joe and Brendan analyze Cody’s third straight KO loss, focusing on emotional decision-making and predictable exchanges. They still argue Cody’s ceiling remains championship-level if he regains discipline and structure.
- 14:38 – 19:02
Usman dismantles Woodley: gas tank, mindset, and the new welterweight order
They call Usman’s win over Tyron Woodley one of the most dominant title-fight performances ever and debate why Woodley looked so flat. The discussion expands into how the welterweight division becomes more exciting with new contenders.
- 19:02 – 24:58
Askren vs. Lawler stoppage debate: limp arm evidence, Herb Dean’s call, and rematch talk
They dig into the controversial bulldog choke stoppage, reviewing video and debating whether Robbie Lawler briefly went out. Joe emphasizes that face/cheek chokes can still finish, and they praise Lawler’s professionalism afterward.
- 24:58 – 36:06
Referees, stand-ups, and public criticism: Goddard vs. Anik/Cruz/Rogan
Joe and Brendan argue that stand-ups can unfairly change fights, using Usman–Maia and Usman–Woodley as examples. They cover Mark Goddard’s online response, Jon Anik’s pushback, and the broader issue of officiating consistency.
- 36:06 – 41:24
Leg kicks and ‘fair play’ debates: Wonderboy’s comments, karate vs. Muay Thai, and history
They react to Stephen Thompson questioning knee-targeting kicks, then zoom out into the evolution of striking styles. Joe references classic kickboxing history (Rufus vs. Thai opposition) to show how leg attacks were once dismissed as ‘low skill.’
- 41:24 – 44:23
Jones vs. Anthony Smith: illegal knee controversy, competitor ethics, and who can challenge Jon
Joe pushes back on the idea that Anthony Smith should’ve taken the DQ win after the illegal knee. They also discuss how Jon Jones adapts mid-fight, why Smith’s stock still rose, and potential challengers like Thiago Santos and Johnny Walker.
- 44:23 – 50:59
Johnny Walker hype, shoulder injury from celebration, and a revitalized light heavyweight division
They replay Walker’s fast finish and immediately worry about his shoulder after the celebration. The talk expands to new matchups (Reyes, Manuwa, Corey Anderson) and what it would take for the division to thrive under Jon Jones’ dominance.
- 50:59 – 1:02:11
NFL combine freak athletes, infamous ‘dick fell out’ clip, and MMA protective cup rant
A comedic detour turns into a broader point about elite athleticism in the NFL and why MMA athletes should modernize protective gear. Joe argues for Diamond MMA-style cups and criticizes steel cups as dangerous and unfair.
- 1:02:11 – 1:44:02
Heavyweight politics: Stipe’s limbo, Cain/Ngannou controversy, DC/Brock plans, and ESPN era expansion
They bounce through heavyweight matchmaking frustrations—especially Stipe Miocic’s stalled path—plus Cain Velasquez’s loss to Ngannou and questionable ‘illegal shot’ claims. The episode closes by celebrating UFC on ESPN, PFL’s ESPN deal, boxing’s Fury/Wilder complications, and finally a long detour into the Michael Jackson documentary and fame’s dark side before wrapping upcoming fights and Brendan’s tour dates.
