JRE MMA Show #58 with Brendan Schaub

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   Five, four, three, two,…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:03

      Five, four, three, two, ah! And we're live. Dude, I brought you to the dark side. Now you're playing Quake.

   2. BSBrendan Schaub0:12

      I got my ass whooped.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      Yeah. Well, you were in a fucking melee. There's three other dudes in there blasting. It's a one-on-one map.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub0:19

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      That map's chaos. It's so fun though. How fun is that shit?

   6. BSBrendan Schaub0:22

      It's fun. It reminds me of GoldenEye. Did you ever get into that?

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:25

      How dare you, first of all.

   8. BSBrendan Schaub0:25

      Nintendo 64. That was a great game, bro.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:28

      That game c- that game can suck all the dicks. You're using those stupid Xbox things. Listen, you-

   10. BSBrendan Schaub0:32

       You mean a controller. (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       ... mouse and keyboard is where you're at. That's why you're getting fucked up. You don't even know how to move.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub0:38

       (laughs) It was hard for me to move back and forth.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       (laughs)

   14. BSBrendan Schaub0:39

       (laughs) If it was a controller, game on.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:43

       (laughs) What?

   16. BSBrendan Schaub0:44

       For sure.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       Yeah. Yeah, 'cause nobody can move. Yeah, if nobody can move, then you're all right.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub0:48

       With controllers?

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:48

       Listen, th- dude, that fucking-

   20. BSBrendan Schaub0:50

       It's fun.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       ... that game's chaos. Jamie and I have been going back and forth for fucking four or five days now.

   22. JVJamie Vernon0:54

       You'd be surprised. There are a couple guys that can compete, a few, that can compete with the mouse and keyboard guys with the way that they, uh, control everything.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:59

       I wouldn't be surprised. I'm sure they can but they have zero life and th- they don't even know what pussy looks like.

   24. BSBrendan Schaub1:04

       (laughs)

   25. JVJamie Vernon1:05

       (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       They see- (laughs)

   27. BSBrendan Schaub1:06

       But q- but Quake is, Quake is old school.

   28. JVJamie Vernon1:09

       (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:09

       Quake's old school, right? Yeah. Q- we're on Quake 4, but there's Quake Champions that you play online. We've been playing Quake 4 because we can set it up on what's called a local area network, a LAN, and it's real easy, and there's no latency. It's just direct from computer to computer.

   30. BSBrendan Schaub1:23

       It's fun.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   I was stunned. …

   1. BSBrendan Schaub15:00

      "What the fuck are you talking about?"

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:02

      I was stunned.

   3. BSBrendan Schaub15:02

      This is one of the greatest title fight performances I've ever seen.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:06

      Ever. Ever.

   5. BSBrendan Schaub15:06

      For him to do that to Woodley and dismantle him, you don't understand. You have no idea what you're watching.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:12

      Yeah.

   7. BSBrendan Schaub15:12

      It's fucking insane.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:14

      It's not just insane that he dismantled him-

   9. BSBrendan Schaub15:16

      (clears throat)

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:16

       ... which is f- for sure insane, but also his fucking gas tank. Usman was pushing a- on the pedal for five fucking rounds, never let off the gas.

   11. BSBrendan Schaub15:27

       How about the way he looked in between rounds when-

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:29

       Yeah.

   13. BSBrendan Schaub15:29

       And to me, it was his mentality.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:31

       Yep.

   15. BSBrendan Schaub15:31

       When you look from the f- the first round, as soon as they break it up-

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:34

       Yep.

   17. BSBrendan Schaub15:34

       ... he's... And then, "You ready?" and he's standing-

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:36

       Yep.

   19. BSBrendan Schaub15:36

       ... there like this. I'm like, "Oh, shit."

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:37

       Oh, he was... Do you know that-

   21. BSBrendan Schaub15:38

       (clears throat)

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:38

       ... the word was that he had a fractured foot?

   23. BSBrendan Schaub15:40

       Correct.

   24. JRJoe Rogan15:41

       So he took a fucking cortisone shot coming into that fight. Imagine that.

   25. BSBrendan Schaub15:45

       Savage.

   26. JRJoe Rogan15:46

       Imagine that. And still no problems with his endurance. Apparently, didn't train the whole week of, just didn't do shit, still made the weight, no problem.

   27. BSBrendan Schaub15:54

       But think about what he has to do.

   28. JRJoe Rogan15:55

       (sniffs)

   29. BSBrendan Schaub15:55

       His coach is going, "All right, you gotta go in there. You gotta out-grapple-"

   30. JRJoe Rogan15:58

       Mm-hmm.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      I'm, um... I feel bad that Mark Goddard responded the way he did because it's, it's not very professional, and I think it's very emotional, and I think he's probably just feeling the heat.

   2. BSBrendan Schaub30:09

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:10

      Yeah, you-

   4. BSBrendan Schaub30:11

      Go hard on him.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:11

      Yeah, you feel that heat and you get angry. You know? But, uh, I like Mark Goddard. I like him a lot and I think he's a very good referee.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub30:17

      I, I think he's top one to two refs in the business. I love Mark Goddard. He fucked that up.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:21

      My question is, I wonder who is telling them they should stand things up and when they shouldn't stand things up. I wonder-

   8. BSBrendan Schaub30:27

      It's the pressure he feels.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:28

      The pressure he feels. From the audience you think?

   10. BSBrendan Schaub30:30

       From the crowd.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:30

       Hmm, maybe. It could be that. British people are very nice. You know, sometimes when English people, they're more accommodating.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub30:36

       You gotta know what you're dealing with, man.

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:37

       Yeah.

   14. BSBrendan Schaub30:37

       Y- when you got two world-class wrestlers-

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:39

       Mm-hmm.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub30:39

       ... and this guy's impossible to take down, he's one of the best of all time-

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:42

       Yep.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub30:43

       ... let it go.

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:43

       Let it go. Well, I think let it go, period. I just, I do not agree with stand-ups 'cause I think if a guy can hold you down, like, that's what I was saying about Ben Askren. If a guy like Ben Askren can hold you down and give you noogies until the fight's over-

   20. BSBrendan Schaub30:55

       Do something about it.

   21. JRJoe Rogan30:55

       Yeah, do something about it. Exactly.

   22. BSBrendan Schaub30:57

       Do something about it.

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:57

       If he's not cheating.

   24. BSBrendan Schaub30:58

       No.

   25. JRJoe Rogan30:58

       If he's not cheating, keep it up. But-

   26. BSBrendan Schaub31:00

       Do you know how hard it is to control Woodley on the ground?

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:02

       Yeah.

   28. BSBrendan Schaub31:02

       It's impossible.

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:02

       And you only have five fucking minutes. You have five minutes to sink a choke in, five minutes to hold onto him and beat him up. And, uh, look, c- look, all credit to Usman. He didn't even fucking care. He got stood back up, didn't complain, went right back at him and took him down again.

   30. BSBrendan Schaub31:15

       Took him down again.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   A little cortisone? Do…

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      (growling)

   2. BSBrendan Schaub45:00

      A little cortisone? Do all the fucking-

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:02

      No, no.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub45:03

      ... worms you want, bro.

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:04

      Yeah, don't, don't give him cortisone. Just give him some stem cells, get that motherfucker up.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub45:07

      Santos, Santos is an interesting fight for Jon.

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:09

      Yes. He's interesting because Santos throws fucking nuclear missiles-

   8. BSBrendan Schaub45:13

      Bombs.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:14

      ... at your head. And, you know, he did stop Jimmy in , he stopped several guys at light heavyweight. He looks spectacular at light heavyweight. He stopped Anthony Smith in their last fight at middleweight.

   10. BSBrendan Schaub45:23

       I, I would imagine Santos is almost a bigger underdog than Anthony Smith.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:28

       Um, I would imagine that too, but I would imagine that he's not going to fight like Anthony Smith. Is he okay? What does it say? What does it say?

   12. BSBrendan Schaub45:34

       "I'm fine. My shoulder's not too bad."

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:36

       Not too bad is not a good thing to say. "I just need to do some exams and check to be 100% sure that it was nothing serious." Okay, that doesn't mean it's okay. Because the thing about m- shoulder tears, and this is coming from someone who's had some shoulder issues, they, it feels all right until you do something weird, and then it hurts, and then you're like, "Fuck." And then you get an MRI and then they look at it and they go, "Oh, you got some tears in there, son."

   14. BSBrendan Schaub45:59

       But sometimes it's not shit. I've had a problem where I'm like, "Dude, I'm fucked, I can't move my shoulder."

   15. JRJoe Rogan46:03

       Right.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub46:03

       Then two days later, like, "Well, fuck it, let's do it."

   17. JRJoe Rogan46:05

       Right. That's usually like sore tendons or sore muscles.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub46:08

       And he was doing the worm.

   19. JRJoe Rogan46:09

       Yeah, but he fell face first and landed on his shoulder weird.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub46:12

       But I'm sure he's done, doing that.

   21. JRJoe Rogan46:14

       Uh, maybe, man, I don't know. It's hard.

   22. BSBrendan Schaub46:15

       Dude, how about his post-fight speech?

   23. JRJoe Rogan46:18

       Yeah, he's hilarious.

   24. BSBrendan Schaub46:18

       "I love Mickey Mouse."

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:19

       Yeah, he's hilarious.

   26. BSBrendan Schaub46:20

       Okay, well-

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:20

       He's a real character.

   28. BSBrendan Schaub46:22

       He's a character. We need to work on his English, but he's gonna go far.

   29. JRJoe Rogan46:25

       Yeah. Motherfucker has some power.

   30. BSBrendan Schaub46:27

       That flying knee.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:02:32

   Usman's muscular as fuck…

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      the size of a running back's. He has giant-ass legs.

   2. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:02

      Usman's muscular as fuck too, though.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:03

      He is, but Usman's longer. Longer, it's different. Like, it's not, it's not that stacked-

   4. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:08

      Dense.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:08

      ... jacked, dense, almost powerlifting muscle. And, and that muscle is one of the reasons why Tyron is so fucking fast and powerful. But it also, you could make the argument that that muscle just comes with an unavoidable price, and that what he's been really able to do is jack his conditioning up as high as possible and then also do a really good job of controlling the pace of fights. He couldn't do that with Usman.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:32

      Good point.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:33

      Could be. So we don't know. I feel bad for the guy. I'm a fan. I want to see w- i- if he wasn't 100% focused, I want to see him one more time focused with Usman, but-

   8. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:43

      Here's the problem. Like with, with, um, um, with Cejudo and TJ-

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:48

      Mm-hmm.

   10. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:49

       ... caught behind the ear, stopped early. All right, rematch. For sure, rematch. Other guys where it's quick, Cain Velasquez, JDS, quick rematch, let's do it, run it back.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:57

       Mm-hmm.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:57

       When you get outclassed for f- 25 minutes and there's two, eight, 10 rounds-

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:01:02

       Mm-hmm.

   14. BSBrendan Schaub1:01:02

       ... it's tough to, to g- there's no way, obviously there's no way you can rematch.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:01:05

       Right. Yeah, Cejudo and TJ-

   16. BSBrendan Schaub1:01:07

       So I'm telling you-

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:01:07

       ... you could, you could really call for a rematch in that fight.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub1:01:09

       The, the UFC is gonna make Woodley's path to that title shot a fucking nightmare, man.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:01:13

       Who stopped that fight? Cejudo and TJ, who stopped that fight? Who was the referee in that fight?

   20. BSBrendan Schaub1:01:19

       I'm not really-

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:01:19

       Was that Herb?

   22. BSBrendan Schaub1:01:21

       No.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:01:22

       No? Who was it? So Leon Roberts was the one who separated Demian Maia-

   24. BSBrendan Schaub1:01:29

       Was it Roberts again?

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:30

       ... and Usman.

   26. BSBrendan Schaub1:01:30

       I want (claps hands) to say it's Leon Roberts.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:31

       Yeah. Was it Leon Roberts? No. Uh, gentleman-

   28. BSBrendan Schaub1:01:36

       Oh, no.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01:36

       Uh, I forget his name.

   30. BSBrendan Schaub1:01:36

       Powerful haircut, though.

Episode duration: 1:44:02