JRE MMA Show #58 with Brendan Schaub

1. 0:03 – 2:10

   Quake LAN addiction, controllers vs. mouse-and-keyboard trash talk

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:03

      Five, four, three, two, ah! And we're live. Dude, I brought you to the dark side. Now you're playing Quake.

   2. BSBrendan Schaub0:12

      I got my ass whooped.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      Yeah. Well, you were in a fucking melee. There's three other dudes in there blasting. It's a one-on-one map.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub0:19

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      That map's chaos. It's so fun though. How fun is that shit?

   6. BSBrendan Schaub0:22

      It's fun. It reminds me of GoldenEye. Did you ever get into that?

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:25

      How dare you, first of all.

   8. BSBrendan Schaub0:25

      Nintendo 64. That was a great game, bro.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:28

      That game c- that game can suck all the dicks. You're using those stupid Xbox things. Listen, you-

   10. BSBrendan Schaub0:32

       You mean a controller. (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       ... mouse and keyboard is where you're at. That's why you're getting fucked up. You don't even know how to move.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub0:38

       (laughs) It was hard for me to move back and forth.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       (laughs)

   14. BSBrendan Schaub0:39

       (laughs) If it was a controller, game on.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:43

       (laughs) What?

   16. BSBrendan Schaub0:44

       For sure.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       Yeah. Yeah, 'cause nobody can move. Yeah, if nobody can move, then you're all right.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub0:48

       With controllers?

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:48

       Listen, th- dude, that fucking-

   20. BSBrendan Schaub0:50

       It's fun.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       ... that game's chaos. Jamie and I have been going back and forth for fucking four or five days now.

   22. JVJamie Vernon0:54

       You'd be surprised. There are a couple guys that can compete, a few, that can compete with the mouse and keyboard guys with the way that they, uh, control everything.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:59

       I wouldn't be surprised. I'm sure they can but they have zero life and th- they don't even know what pussy looks like.

   24. BSBrendan Schaub1:04

       (laughs)

   25. JVJamie Vernon1:05

       (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       They see- (laughs)

   27. BSBrendan Schaub1:06

       But q- but Quake is, Quake is old school.

   28. JVJamie Vernon1:09

       (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:09

       Quake's old school, right? Yeah. Q- we're on Quake 4, but there's Quake Champions that you play online. We've been playing Quake 4 because we can set it up on what's called a local area network, a LAN, and it's real easy, and there's no latency. It's just direct from computer to computer.

   30. BSBrendan Schaub1:23

       It's fun.
2. 2:10 – 4:03

   “Training” talk, tough-guy gym culture, and working out while sick

   1. JRJoe Rogan2:10

      Like, there's hot girls that take Muay Thai class, right? And they get all serious, angry face, don't talk to anybody, pretend they're real fighters.

   2. BSBrendan Schaub2:16

      Let's relax.

   3. JRJoe Rogan2:17

      Some of them are real.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub2:18

      Yeah, but let's relax.

   5. JRJoe Rogan2:19

      Some of them are not, though. Some of them get super serious.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub2:22

      That's when I whisper like this, "Let's relax."

   7. JRJoe Rogan2:24

      Yeah. When they say, uh, I, I don't like when people say, "I'm going tr- I'm gonna train today." I'm like, "Uh, what are you doing? You taking Pilates?"

   8. BSBrendan Schaub2:33

      Yeah, that doesn't count.

   9. JRJoe Rogan2:34

      "Are you training? That's not training. You're training for what? What are you training for? The apocalypse?"

   10. BSBrendan Schaub2:38

       That doesn't count. Yeah, that doesn't count.

   11. JRJoe Rogan2:39

       "Are you training for some dick?" (laughs)

   12. BSBrendan Schaub2:41

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan2:44

       These goddamn games. They're so addictive.

   14. BSBrendan Schaub2:47

       You were, like, straight up addicted to them, right?

   15. JRJoe Rogan2:49

       Oh, yeah. I had a real problem. Well, I kinda got a little b- bit of a problem now. Jamie and I have been talking back and forth, and he's up on me a little bit too. That's why I have to kick Jeff out every now and then just so Jamie and I go one-on-one. One-on-one last time, I fucked him up. And he, he quit.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub3:04

       Well, 'cause me and Jeff are easy prey, right? Like, you, you'd get-

   17. JVJamie Vernon3:06

       He quit. Jeff's not easy prey anymore. Jeff was easy prey for a little bit. If I won all these games, how long do you think we'd be here playing Quake?

   18. BSBrendan Schaub3:14

       True. You wouldn't get anything done.

   19. JRJoe Rogan3:16

       If you won all these games-

   20. BSBrendan Schaub3:16

       He's too competitive.

   21. JRJoe Rogan3:17

       What are you, what are you saying? You lost 13 to five because you were trying real hard? You got fucked up, son.

   22. JVJamie Vernon3:22

       Mm-hmm.

   23. JRJoe Rogan3:22

       I lit you up.

   24. JVJamie Vernon3:23

       Mm-hmm.

   25. JRJoe Rogan3:24

       And talking shit.

   26. BSBrendan Schaub3:25

       Dude, he's tanking.

   27. JRJoe Rogan3:25

       And you were talking shit too.

   28. BSBrendan Schaub3:25

       "He's tanking," he says.

   29. JRJoe Rogan3:27

       Yeah, sure. Fucked him up. Boom, bang. The problem with having another person in, in the, the thing is he always goes after Jeff first, gets that easy kill.

   30. BSBrendan Schaub3:36

       That's what I'm saying.
3. 4:03 – 8:17

   Diego Sanchez vs. Mickey Gall: bite mark controversy and veteran toughness

   1. JRJoe Rogan4:03

      All right. So let's talk about these fights.

   2. BSBrendan Schaub4:05

      Bro.

   3. JRJoe Rogan4:05

      First of all-

   4. BSBrendan Schaub4:06

      Bro.

   5. JRJoe Rogan4:06

      ... let's, let's start with Diego motherfucking Sanchez. All these young guns sleeping on Diego Sanchez.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub4:12

      Fully redeemed himself.

   7. JRJoe Rogan4:13

      Do not sleep. Do not, just do not. Just don't 'cause he will fuck people up still.

   8. BSBrendan Schaub4:22

      How about Mickey Gall bit him? Did you see that?

   9. JRJoe Rogan4:24

      I saw that. That's crazy.

   10. BSBrendan Schaub4:26

       There's a video of him biting him.

   11. JRJoe Rogan4:27

       There's a video of him biting him?

   12. BSBrendan Schaub4:27

       Well, there's a video of Diego going like this, shit.

   13. JRJoe Rogan4:30

       Yeah, Diego, I saw on his-

   14. BSBrendan Schaub4:32

       He fucking bit him.

   15. JRJoe Rogan4:32

       ... on his, on his Instagram-

   16. BSBrendan Schaub4:33

       On his chest.

   17. JRJoe Rogan4:33

       ... he showed his chest where he got bit.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub4:36

       His titty.

   19. JRJoe Rogan4:36

       That is crazy.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub4:38

       (clears throat) I thought, uh, they said Mickey Gall had a hard cut, like a really hard cut, and maybe that's one of the reasons he got so tired.

   21. JRJoe Rogan4:45

       (coughs)

   22. BSBrendan Schaub4:45

       I just don't think that, so far, he's just, the skills aren't there yet. That was, he, he was out of his element a little bit with Diego.

   23. JRJoe Rogan4:51

       Well-

   24. BSBrendan Schaub4:52

       Like, Diego outclassed him.

   25. JRJoe Rogan4:53

       Diego is a monster. I mean, you're dealing with a guy who has 40, look at that bite mark. That is, that is crazy.

   26. BSBrendan Schaub5:00

       Who bites?

   27. JRJoe Rogan5:01

       (inhales through nose)

   28. BSBrendan Schaub5:01

       Who the fuck bites?

   29. JRJoe Rogan5:02

       Mickey Gall. Mickey Gall bites.

   30. BSBrendan Schaub5:04

       (sighs)
4. 8:17 – 9:55

   Career longevity rabbit hole: old records, Shannon Rich’s insane résumé, and CBD talk

   1. JRJoe Rogan8:17

      Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Crazy. Crazy how long he's been doing it. And again, how long he's been doing it and how much he loves it still. And he says CBD is really helping him. He's got his own CBD. 2002, got it.

   2. BSBrendan Schaub8:29

      Wow.

   3. JRJoe Rogan8:29

      Damn, that motherfucker is 17 years in.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub8:31

      17 years.

   5. JRJoe Rogan8:33

      He fought Michael Johnson in 2000...

   6. BSBrendan Schaub8:36

      Holy fuck. Ring of Fire.

   7. JRJoe Rogan8:36

      Is that the same Michael Johnson?

   8. BSBrendan Schaub8:38

      No way. Mike White?

   9. JVJamie Vernon8:39

      It's got the name tagged, so...

   10. BSBrendan Schaub8:40

       Michael was six years old.

   11. JRJoe Rogan8:41

       What's that?

   12. JVJamie Vernon8:42

       His name would probably be tagged there if it was.

   13. JRJoe Rogan8:44

       Yeah. It would, right? Yeah.

   14. BSBrendan Schaub8:44

       That's not Michael.

   15. JRJoe Rogan8:45

       Wow, he fought Shannon Rich on his third fight. Shannon Rich has like a million fights. Click on Shannon Rich.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub8:51

       Dude, look at Mike Ge- Guymon, The Joker, old school.

   17. JRJoe Rogan8:54

       Yeah.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub8:54

       2003.

   19. JRJoe Rogan8:54

       C- click on Sh- Shannon Rich. How many fights has he got? I'm going to say he's got... How many does it say?

   20. BSBrendan Schaub9:00

       Holy shit, that's a lot of losses.

   21. JRJoe Rogan9:01

       Does it say his record?

   22. BSBrendan Schaub9:03

       53 and 79.

   23. JRJoe Rogan9:04

       Jesus Christ.

   24. JVJamie Vernon9:05

       (laughs)

   25. BSBrendan Schaub9:06

       It's the worst record I've ever seen. (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan9:07

       That's crazy. That is crazy.

   27. BSBrendan Schaub9:09

       That's fucking terrible. Shout out to that guy though for keeping with it, you know?

   28. JRJoe Rogan9:13

       That is cra- He's lost 79 times. Jesus Christ.

   29. JVJamie Vernon9:16

       And 42 kickboxing matches.

   30. JRJoe Rogan9:18

       Oh my God, and 42 kickboxing matches. Jesus Christ.
5. 9:55 – 11:11

   Zabit vs. Jeremy Stephens: hype, expectations, and what “stock” really means

   1. JRJoe Rogan9:55

      Yeah. It's, uh... I mean, there's so many good companies now, but, uh, you know. Another fight that was crazy, how about Colby and Pedro Muñoz?

   2. BSBrendan Schaub10:04

      Oh. Oh, you're talk- oh, you're talking about Co... Well, you skipped past Zabite-

   3. JRJoe Rogan10:07

      Oh.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub10:07

      ... and Jeremy Stephens.

   5. JRJoe Rogan10:08

      Yeah.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub10:09

      Which I thought-

   7. JRJoe Rogan10:10

      Crazy.

   8. BSBrendan Schaub10:11

      Mm, crazy and no. I mean, for Zabite to beat the number six guy in the world.

   9. JRJoe Rogan10:14

      Yeah.

   10. BSBrendan Schaub10:15

       It was good.

   11. JRJoe Rogan10:16

       Good fight. What'd you think?

   12. BSBrendan Schaub10:18

       Um, I didn't think it helped Zabite's stock because there's so much hype on him.

   13. JRJoe Rogan10:24

       You didn't think so?

   14. BSBrendan Schaub10:24

       I just think he looked great.

   15. JRJoe Rogan10:25

       Okay.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub10:25

       I just think he looked great.

   17. JRJoe Rogan10:26

       You just think he looked great?

   18. BSBrendan Schaub10:26

       Mm-hmm.

   19. JRJoe Rogan10:27

       Really? Well, first of all, he's fighting Jeremy Stephens.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub10:29

       Agree.

   21. JRJoe Rogan10:30

       Jeremy Stephens is fucking dangerous.

   22. BSBrendan Schaub10:32

       One of the best.

   23. JRJoe Rogan10:32

       You can't ask any mistakes with that guy.

   24. BSBrendan Schaub10:34

       Zero. You're getting knocked out.

   25. JRJoe Rogan10:35

       Wait, you didn't think he looked good?

   26. BSBrendan Schaub10:35

       I thought, I thought he looked okay. I didn't think his stock went through the roof with that fight.

   27. JRJoe Rogan10:39

       Hmm.

   28. BSBrendan Schaub10:39

       He didn't walk away from that fight going, "Oh my God, I can't wait to see him fight again."

   29. JRJoe Rogan10:42

       Wow.

   30. BSBrendan Schaub10:42

       I thought he looked good. But when you, when you hear Mark Henry's coach talk about him, I mean, they talk about him like he's the next fucking...
6. 11:11 – 14:38

   Cody Garbrandt vs. Pedro Muñoz: ‘seeing red,’ discipline, and rebound paths

   1. BSBrendan Schaub11:11

      Doesn't play the game that Cody Garbrandt played with Pedro Muñoz.

   2. JRJoe Rogan11:13

      The Cody fight was crazy. I just-

   3. BSBrendan Schaub11:16

      That's three losses in a row, three knockouts.

   4. JRJoe Rogan11:17

      Three KOs in a row. I just couldn't believe he was standing with him like that. He got him hurt, and then he got hurt, and then he was determined to take him out. And then they were literally going, "Right hand, right hand, right hand."

   5. BSBrendan Schaub11:30

      Until someone fell.

   6. JRJoe Rogan11:32

      Yeah. And Pedro can take a shot.

   7. BSBrendan Schaub11:34

      So can Cody.

   8. JRJoe Rogan11:35

      Yeah.

   9. BSBrendan Schaub11:35

      They both ate shots.

   10. JRJoe Rogan11:36

       He ate some big ones.

   11. BSBrendan Schaub11:38

       But it makes no sense if your code is so technical.

   12. JRJoe Rogan11:40

       I know. It doesn't make any sense.

   13. BSBrendan Schaub11:41

       He s- he said it was a headbutt. He said he got headbutt and then just saw red.

   14. JRJoe Rogan11:44

       Well, he definitely did. He definitely got headbutted.

   15. BSBrendan Schaub11:46

       Very Aaron Pico-ish.

   16. JRJoe Rogan11:47

       And he talked about it. He said he got... he saw red, like, he got angry after he got headbutted?

   17. BSBrendan Schaub11:51

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan11:51

       Yeah. You can't do that. Yeah, you got to fight intelli-... I mean, obviously, it's super easy for us to say, you know, sitting here drinking coffee, "Yeah, don't fight e- don't fight angry, bro." You know, it's easy to say. But that's-

   19. BSBrendan Schaub12:04

       But, but, as a form-

   20. JRJoe Rogan12:04

       ... also what makes him so dynamic.

   21. BSBrendan Schaub12:06

       Agree, it's what got him to the party. But as a former fighter, it's like coming off two losses, which I've been there, you're usually a little more like, "All right, I'm not going to go down that road."

   22. JRJoe Rogan12:15

       Right.

   23. BSBrendan Schaub12:15

       "I've been knocked out twice."

   24. JRJoe Rogan12:16

       Yeah.

   25. BSBrendan Schaub12:17

       "I know how that ends."

   26. JRJoe Rogan12:18

       Yeah.

   27. BSBrendan Schaub12:18

       "If I get hit, let's learn from our mistakes."

   28. JRJoe Rogan12:21

       Right, right, right.

   29. BSBrendan Schaub12:21

       That's what's the troubling part.

   30. JRJoe Rogan12:23

       Yeah, and he, uh, (clears throat) he has a speed advantage. Pedro Munoz has very good timing, but I think C- Colby has a speed advantage.
7. 14:38 – 19:02

   Usman dismantles Woodley: gas tank, mindset, and the new welterweight order

   1. JRJoe Rogan14:38

      ... about him and... Yeah, well, he's good at talking shit and getting his name out there. And it's the best thing for, uh, the m- the welterweight division right now after Usman just dominated Tyron Woodley. I was blown away by that fight.

   2. BSBrendan Schaub14:50

      Me too.

   3. JRJoe Rogan14:51

      Blown away.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub14:51

      You and I were texting each other, and it was weird 'cause I had people over at my house to watch the fights. And they were like, "God, this fight's so boring." And I look at 'em, and I'm like, "God, this is brutal." I'm like, "What the fuck are you talking about?"

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:02

      I was stunned.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub15:02

      This is one of the greatest title fight performances I've ever seen.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:06

      Ever. Ever.

   8. BSBrendan Schaub15:06

      For him to do that to Woodley and dismantle him, you don't understand. You have no idea what you're watching.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:12

      Yeah.

   10. BSBrendan Schaub15:12

       It's fucking insane.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:14

       It's not just insane that he dismantled him-

   12. BSBrendan Schaub15:16

       (clears throat)

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:16

       ... which is f- for sure insane, but also his fucking gas tank. Usman was pushing a- on the pedal for five fucking rounds, never let off the gas.

   14. BSBrendan Schaub15:27

       How about the way he looked in between rounds when-

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:29

       Yeah.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub15:29

       And to me, it was his mentality.

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:31

       Yep.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub15:31

       When you look from the f- the first round, as soon as they break it up-

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:34

       Yep.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub15:34

       ... he's... And then, "You ready?" and he's standing-

   21. JRJoe Rogan15:36

       Yep.

   22. BSBrendan Schaub15:36

       ... there like this. I'm like, "Oh, shit."

   23. JRJoe Rogan15:37

       Oh, he was... Do you know that-

   24. BSBrendan Schaub15:38

       (clears throat)

   25. JRJoe Rogan15:38

       ... the word was that he had a fractured foot?

   26. BSBrendan Schaub15:40

       Correct.

   27. JRJoe Rogan15:41

       So he took a fucking cortisone shot coming into that fight. Imagine that.

   28. BSBrendan Schaub15:45

       Savage.

   29. JRJoe Rogan15:46

       Imagine that. And still no problems with his endurance. Apparently, didn't train the whole week of, just didn't do shit, still made the weight, no problem.

   30. BSBrendan Schaub15:54

       But think about what he has to do.
8. 19:02 – 24:58

   Askren vs. Lawler stoppage debate: limp arm evidence, Herb Dean’s call, and rematch talk

   1. BSBrendan Schaub19:02

      Do you think maybe it was too where Ben Askren's very ... so one-dimensional, he didn't have to worry about the striking at all?

   2. JRJoe Rogan19:09

      Um-

   3. BSBrendan Schaub19:09

      So he just took-

   4. JRJoe Rogan19:09

      ... there's a little bit of that, for sure. But the fucking fight started-

   5. BSBrendan Schaub19:13

      (coughs)

   6. JRJoe Rogan19:13

      ... because he launched Ben Askren into the air and slammed him on his fucking head.

   7. BSBrendan Schaub19:17

      How tough is Ben?

   8. JRJoe Rogan19:17

      Which is crazy.

   9. BSBrendan Schaub19:18

      How tough is Ben Askren?

   10. JRJoe Rogan19:19

       Ben is tough as shit.

   11. BSBrendan Schaub19:20

       Here's the other thing, yes, Ben won controversially. We don't know that ... There was still, what, two minutes left in that fight?

   12. JRJoe Rogan19:26

       Dude, I've been watching the replay.

   13. BSBrendan Schaub19:27

       With that bulldog choke-

   14. JRJoe Rogan19:28

       Yeah.

   15. BSBrendan Schaub19:28

       ... w- with that much time, it could've got pretty dice for, for fucking, um, uh, (clicks tongue) uh, f- uh-

   16. JRJoe Rogan19:35

       Robbie Lawler.

   17. BSBrendan Schaub19:36

       Robbie Lawler.

   18. JRJoe Rogan19:36

       Well-

   19. BSBrendan Schaub19:36

       Could've got dicey.

   20. JRJoe Rogan19:37

       Dude c-

   21. BSBrendan Schaub19:37

       We can't just chalk up-

   22. JRJoe Rogan19:38

       Go to Ben's, uh ... Ben ... I think he put it on his Twitter or his Instagram page, where you see Robbie Lawler's arm go limp. Dude, it goes limp. Now, here's the question. Did it go limp because he just let it go 'cause he was trying to, like, let ... you know, just let it go, 'cause he was trying to, like-

   23. BSBrendan Schaub19:53

       That's a weird move.

   24. JRJoe Rogan19:54

       ... just hang on. Because the choke, he was like, he's squeezing really hard, he's gonna tire his arms out.

   25. BSBrendan Schaub19:58

       Tire his chin, though.

   26. JRJoe Rogan19:58

       That's what Robbie said. It wasn't under his chin, no. But here's the thing, and this is ... People need to stop saying that you have to be under the chin to choke a guy unconscious.

   27. BSBrendan Schaub20:06

       No, you can do both.

   28. JRJoe Rogan20:07

       You can choke a guy unconscious across his face.

   29. BSBrendan Schaub20:09

       For sure.

   30. JRJoe Rogan20:09

       You can go across the face, right like this, and if you have a real squeeze, you have like a Marcelo Garcia squeeze, you could put a guy to sleep.
9. 24:58 – 36:06

   Referees, stand-ups, and public criticism: Goddard vs. Anik/Cruz/Rogan

   1. JRJoe Rogan24:58

      The Demian Maia fight will forever be marred by the fact that they separated them when Demian had one hook in and he was trying to take his back.

   2. BSBrendan Schaub25:05

      Dude, was that fucking, uh, homeboy?The guy who's- who's kept standing him up-

   3. JRJoe Rogan25:09

      Was that Goddard?

   4. BSBrendan Schaub25:10

      ... what the fuck are you doing?

   5. JRJoe Rogan25:11

      Oh my God, I don't know what he's doing.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub25:12

      What are you doing?

   7. JRJoe Rogan25:13

      Let's see who that was. Go, go to, uh, Demian Maia versus, um, Kamaru Usman and see who, who separated them 'cause-

   8. BSBrendan Schaub25:22

      Who's the ref?

   9. JRJoe Rogan25:22

      ... Matt, uh, Matt "The Terror" Serra was going fucking crazy about that, and he's 100% right. Do you know how difficult it is to get a hold of a guy like Usman like that and to have one hook in standing up and to be working to take his back, and for them to separate him? It is nonsense.

   10. BSBrendan Schaub25:37

       Dude-

   11. JRJoe Rogan25:37

       Pure nonsense.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub25:37

       ... do you know, do you know how much harder it is? That's hard.

   13. JRJoe Rogan25:40

       Yeah.

   14. BSBrendan Schaub25:40

       Do you know how much harder it is to take Woodley down and control him-

   15. JRJoe Rogan25:42

       Yes, yes.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub25:43

       ... and then you stand him up?

   17. JRJoe Rogan25:44

       Yep, yep.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub25:45

       If I'm Usman, I went, "What the fuck are you doing to me?"

   19. JRJoe Rogan25:47

       Yeah, but I mean, you stop and think-

   20. BSBrendan Schaub25:49

       You, you take him down. You take him down.

   21. JRJoe Rogan25:49

       ... you stop and think about Demian Maia's last fight, right? Who the fu- who the fuck did he just choke unconscious?

   22. BSBrendan Schaub25:54

       He choked the fuck out of... Who was that?

   23. JRJoe Rogan25:56

       Who was it? Who'd he just choke out? Someone really good. Um...

   24. BSBrendan Schaub26:00

       Young kid that they fed up.

   25. JRJoe Rogan26:01

       Okay, so here it is.

   26. BSBrendan Schaub26:01

       Nope, that's not Goddard.

   27. JRJoe Rogan26:02

       Who is it?

   28. BSBrendan Schaub26:04

       Uh, it's the bald feller.

   29. JRJoe Rogan26:05

       Which bald feller?

   30. BSBrendan Schaub26:06

       (sighs)
10. 36:06 – 41:24

    Leg kicks and ‘fair play’ debates: Wonderboy’s comments, karate vs. Muay Thai, and history

    1. JRJoe Rogan36:06

       But Johnny Walker might have tore it... Okay. Stephen Won- Thompson said his movement was out the window after Darren kill, uh, kick, uh, knee kick out. I- uh, okay. He's also saying that he doesn't think that those kicks should be allowed, which is crazy for someone to say that kicks people in the head. (laughs)

    2. BSBrendan Schaub36:21

       Who, who's spinning wheel kicks people in the head.

    3. JRJoe Rogan36:24

       Yeah. Okay, it says, uh, uh, "It was almost like the dude was trying to put me out," Thompson told Ariel Helwani. Yeah.

    4. BSBrendan Schaub36:29

       Yeah, bro.

    5. JRJoe Rogan36:30

       But he was definitely trying to kick me.

    6. BSBrendan Schaub36:31

       It's a goddamn cage fight.

    7. JRJoe Rogan36:31

       "He hit me in the knee, and after that, my movement was pretty much out the window. I was more focused on keeping my knee. It was just another thing to think about out there." Well, that's a strange attitude. You know what I mean?

    8. BSBrendan Schaub36:42

       He's too nice.

    9. JRJoe Rogan36:42

       Maybe that comes because he, he came from a k- karate background and not a Muay Thai background. On the Thomp- on the show, Thompson said he was unsure if targeting the knee with that kick like that is legal. Well, I will tell you, it's legal.

    10. BSBrendan Schaub36:55

        Yeah.

    11. JRJoe Rogan36:55

        It's definitely legal.

    12. BSBrendan Schaub36:56

        Ask Whittaker.

    13. JRJoe Rogan36:57

        So, so are heel hooks, which are way worse. I mean-

    14. BSBrendan Schaub37:00

        Do a spinning, a spinning heel kick to your face.

    15. JRJoe Rogan37:01

        So, so his knee's fucked up. He says, "Hopefully it's nothing major, but it sucks, man. It really does. Disappointed by the whole situation and coming out of it with an injury like that, it only makes it all worse."

    16. BSBrendan Schaub37:10

        He has a fight coming up.

    17. JRJoe Rogan37:11

        Yeah.

    18. BSBrendan Schaub37:11

        Pettis.

    19. JRJoe Rogan37:12

        Oh, that's right. So he must have healed it up or got surgery or whatever.

    20. BSBrendan Schaub37:17

        It's a, it's a tough fight for Pettis.

    21. JRJoe Rogan37:17

        I just, I don't understand that. I don't understand that kind of thinking. I mean...

    22. BSBrendan Schaub37:22

        I don't enter he can't hit me.

    23. JRJoe Rogan37:23

        He said, "I was trying to hit the guy hard. I really was. I was just st- unable to put myself in a situation to do so." And the reason for that is because he kicked your knee. And-

    24. BSBrendan Schaub37:31

        Which is a technique.

    25. JRJoe Rogan37:32

        Yeah, it's a technique.

    26. BSBrendan Schaub37:33

        John uses it all the time.

    27. JRJoe Rogan37:34

        Yeah. It's a fucking legit technique. It's good.

    28. BSBrendan Schaub37:36

        Whittaker used it against Romero.

    29. JRJoe Rogan37:37

        Look, I don't... Yes. And Romero used it against Whittaker.

    30. BSBrendan Schaub37:40

        That's where Whittaker first got it.
11. 41:24 – 44:23

    Jones vs. Anthony Smith: illegal knee controversy, competitor ethics, and who can challenge Jon

    1. JRJoe Rogan41:24

       I want to say this, though, because this is, uh, something that's coming up and it's actually kind of pissing me off.

    2. BSBrendan Schaub41:28

       What's that?

    3. JRJoe Rogan41:28

       There's somebody, there's a bunch of people that have been saying, should Anthony Smith have take, uh, have, like, laid down after he took that il- illegal knee-

    4. BSBrendan Schaub41:38

       No.

    5. JRJoe Rogan41:38

       ... and, and won the title?

    6. BSBrendan Schaub41:39

       Who said this?

    7. JRJoe Rogan41:40

       Ariel Helwani, a bunch of other people said it. I think Ariel was suggesting or asking whether or not he should have.

    8. BSBrendan Schaub41:46

       That's some beta male shit.

    9. JRJoe Rogan41:47

       Well, it's crazy, because the guy should be praised for, he ate the knee, he was okay, and then he wasn't even thinking about quitting.

    10. BSBrendan Schaub41:55

        It-

    11. JRJoe Rogan41:56

        Yeah.

    12. BSBrendan Schaub41:56

        It, it didn't, that didn't go through my mind.

    13. JRJoe Rogan41:58

        It may have went through my mind-

    14. BSBrendan Schaub41:59

        Like, when peop- when people-

    15. JRJoe Rogan41:59

        ... that someone might do that. Some people have done that.

    16. BSBrendan Schaub42:01

        Not with Anthony Smith.

    17. JRJoe Rogan42:02

        Not with Anthony Smith.

    18. BSBrendan Schaub42:02

        Have you ever seen him fight before?

    19. JRJoe Rogan42:03

        No, as an animal.

    20. BSBrendan Schaub42:04

        That, that wasn't even a thought.

    21. JRJoe Rogan42:05

        No. Nope, nope, it wasn't a thought. I don't agree with-

    22. BSBrendan Schaub42:07

        And I- and I wasn't like, "Oh, we, we should all give him praise for this." I was like, "Well, no, why would he do that?" That makes sense.

    23. JRJoe Rogan42:12

        Well, that's h- that's who he is, but some people, like, let's be honest, and I think Chael Sonnen probably admit to this, if he took that illegal knee, he might say, "That's it. Can't go on. Sorry. Rematch." Yeah.

    24. BSBrendan Schaub42:23

        You get the win and keep going, yep.

    25. JRJoe Rogan42:24

        Well, you get the win, you get the title.

    26. BSBrendan Schaub42:25

        But Chael's a businessman.

    27. JRJoe Rogan42:26

        Yeah.

    28. BSBrendan Schaub42:26

        Chael's a businessman.

    29. JRJoe Rogan42:27

        Yeah. I mean, you get the win, you get the title, you get a rematch. I could be wrong. Chael might disagree, he might say, "No, I'm a competitor. When I'm in there, I wouldn't, wouldn't think that way."

    30. BSBrendan Schaub42:34

        (clears throat) Not at his, not now, his age now.
12. 44:23 – 50:59

    Johnny Walker hype, shoulder injury from celebration, and a revitalized light heavyweight division

    1. JRJoe Rogan44:23

       Tiago Santos, yeah. Which is, look, Santos is a wild card, that motherfucker can knock out anybody. I would have liked to see Johnny Walker not blow his shoulder out, celebrating.

    2. BSBrendan Schaub44:31

       I heard he's fine, though.

    3. JRJoe Rogan44:32

       What? Listen, man, he couldn't move his arm.

    4. BSBrendan Schaub44:34

       He came in the back and they didn't even... Th- they're waiting until I think today, but in the back, after he went, "I'm actually good now."

    5. JRJoe Rogan44:40

       Okay, so what that must've mean, that must mean that he dislocated it and then they popped it back in place. So it could be fine, or there could be some significant tearing inside that allowed it to dislocate, and that could be a problem in the future.

    6. BSBrendan Schaub44:52

       Let's say it's fine, though.

    7. JRJoe Rogan44:54

       Let's hope it's fine.

    8. BSBrendan Schaub44:54

       He's still not fighting Jon Jones yet, he has a ways to go.

    9. JRJoe Rogan44:56

       Listen, fill that dude up with stem cells, just get a bunch of needles in there and fucking... (growling)

    10. BSBrendan Schaub45:00

        A little cortisone? Do all the fucking-

    11. JRJoe Rogan45:02

        No, no.

    12. BSBrendan Schaub45:03

        ... worms you want, bro.

    13. JRJoe Rogan45:04

        Yeah, don't, don't give him cortisone. Just give him some stem cells, get that motherfucker up.

    14. BSBrendan Schaub45:07

        Santos, Santos is an interesting fight for Jon.

    15. JRJoe Rogan45:09

        Yes. He's interesting because Santos throws fucking nuclear missiles-

    16. BSBrendan Schaub45:13

        Bombs.

    17. JRJoe Rogan45:14

        ... at your head. And, you know, he did stop Jimmy in , he stopped several guys at light heavyweight. He looks spectacular at light heavyweight. He stopped Anthony Smith in their last fight at middleweight.

    18. BSBrendan Schaub45:23

        I, I would imagine Santos is almost a bigger underdog than Anthony Smith.

    19. JRJoe Rogan45:28

        Um, I would imagine that too, but I would imagine that he's not going to fight like Anthony Smith. Is he okay? What does it say? What does it say?

    20. BSBrendan Schaub45:34

        "I'm fine. My shoulder's not too bad."

    21. JRJoe Rogan45:36

        Not too bad is not a good thing to say. "I just need to do some exams and check to be 100% sure that it was nothing serious." Okay, that doesn't mean it's okay. Because the thing about m- shoulder tears, and this is coming from someone who's had some shoulder issues, they, it feels all right until you do something weird, and then it hurts, and then you're like, "Fuck." And then you get an MRI and then they look at it and they go, "Oh, you got some tears in there, son."

    22. BSBrendan Schaub45:59

        But sometimes it's not shit. I've had a problem where I'm like, "Dude, I'm fucked, I can't move my shoulder."

    23. JRJoe Rogan46:03

        Right.

    24. BSBrendan Schaub46:03

        Then two days later, like, "Well, fuck it, let's do it."

    25. JRJoe Rogan46:05

        Right. That's usually like sore tendons or sore muscles.

    26. BSBrendan Schaub46:08

        And he was doing the worm.

    27. JRJoe Rogan46:09

        Yeah, but he fell face first and landed on his shoulder weird.

    28. BSBrendan Schaub46:12

        But I'm sure he's done, doing that.

    29. JRJoe Rogan46:14

        Uh, maybe, man, I don't know. It's hard.

    30. BSBrendan Schaub46:15

        Dude, how about his post-fight speech?
13. 50:59 – 1:02:11

    NFL combine freak athletes, infamous ‘dick fell out’ clip, and MMA protective cup rant

    1. BSBrendan Schaub50:59

       Dude, watch, watch the NFL Combine.

    2. JRJoe Rogan51:01

       Yeah.

    3. BSBrendan Schaub51:01

       There's a guy who's 6'3", 230 pounds, ran a 4.3 in the 40, or the 40-inch vert. He's a wide receiver.

    4. JRJoe Rogan51:08

       That is insane.

    5. BSBrendan Schaub51:08

       Has the best footwork you've ever seen. Has footwork like Dominique Cruz. It's- it's mind-blowing. There's a defensive lineman ran a 4.4 40. A big fat dude ran a 4.4.

    6. JRJoe Rogan51:18

       That's insane. That's so fast.

    7. JVJamie Vernon51:20

       Two 300-pounders ran plu- sub-five seconds.

    8. JRJoe Rogan51:23

       300 pounds-

    9. JVJamie Vernon51:25

       Yeah.

    10. JRJoe Rogan51:25

        ... sub-five second 40.

    11. JVJamie Vernon51:26

        4.8, I think it was.

    12. JRJoe Rogan51:28

        That's insane. That's insane.

    13. BSBrendan Schaub51:29

        (laughs) Dude, d-

    14. JRJoe Rogan51:30

        That's so fast.

    15. BSBrendan Schaub51:31

        Have you... I don't know why I bring this up on every podcast. Have you ever seen the guy, he's running the 40 and his dick comes out?

    16. JVJamie Vernon51:37

        (laughs)

    17. BSBrendan Schaub51:39

        (laughs)

    18. JRJoe Rogan51:39

        (clapping)

    19. BSBrendan Schaub51:39

        It's the best moment in sports.

    20. JRJoe Rogan51:42

        He's got so much dick, it can't be held in.

    21. BSBrendan Schaub51:43

        His dick plops out and he falls.

    22. JRJoe Rogan51:45

        No.

    23. BSBrendan Schaub51:46

        And he pops up and goes... The coach goes, "What happened?" He goes, "My dick fell out, man."

    24. JRJoe Rogan51:49

        (laughs)

    25. BSBrendan Schaub51:49

        And they paused it.

    26. JRJoe Rogan51:50

        Yeah.

    27. BSBrendan Schaub51:50

        And it's this fat, black dick. (laughs)

    28. JRJoe Rogan51:53

        (laughs) Let's see him go. Ready? Go.

    29. BSBrendan Schaub51:56

        (laughs)

    30. JRJoe Rogan51:56

        (singing) Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, da, da, da, don't, da, da, da, don't.
14. 1:02:11 – 1:02:32

    Heavyweight politics: Stipe’s limbo, Cain/Ngannou controversy, DC/Brock plans, and ESPN era expansion

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:02:11

       Right. But I would say the same thing about Stipe Miocic. Stipe-

    2. BSBrendan Schaub1:02:15

       That super fuck done.

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:02:16

       ... was the motherfucker for years. He's the, he won more title fight defenses than any heavyweight in the history of the sport.

    4. BSBrendan Schaub1:02:22

       Most successful.

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:02:22

       He's the number one most successful heavyweight of all time. Beat nothing but world champions, right? Beat nothing but world motherfucking champions. Alistair Overeem, Fabricio Werdum-

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