JRE MMA Show #62 with Brendan Schaub

Rogan and Schaub highlight how Poirier’s physicality at 155 overwhelmed Holloway despite Max’s volume, and how Adesanya, Gastelum, Romero, and others show that being ‘the right size’ or truly disciplined for a division is critical to power, durability, and longevity.

They argue that divisions like 165 lbs would better accommodate fighters stuck between 155 and 170, who are either cutting dangerously or undersized; instead, the UFC has layered on interim titles that don’t solve the underlying size-distribution problem.

Discussing TJ Dillashaw, they note EPO doesn’t just give more cardio on fight night—it lets athletes recover faster, train harder, and get extra rounds in, vastly compounding its advantage while introducing serious health risks like thickened blood and stroke.

Rogan reveals that EPO isn’t tested for every time due to cost, which shocks Dana White in a separate conversation; they debate whether retroactively testing old samples and expanding panels is worth the millions versus simply paying fighters more.

Schaub describes ESPN+ ordering failures and being bombarded with pirated links, noting younger fans see $80 as prohibitive and stream by default; Rogan suggests while this hurts PPV revenue, it may help grow fighters’ popularity and the sport’s fanbase.