JRE MMA Show #62 with Brendan Schaub

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   Let's go live. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      Let's go live.

   2. BSBrendan Schaub0:03

      (whistles)

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:03

      5, 4, 3, 2, 1. And yee-haw. Brendan Schaub.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub0:10

      What's up, dog?

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:11

      Did you buy those shoes yourself?

   6. BSBrendan Schaub0:12

      Yeah, I bought these.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      Just wanted to check.

   8. BSBrendan Schaub0:14

      A little too much flair for you?

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      (Blows out air) Confident-

   10. BSBrendan Schaub0:16

       It's summer, bro.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:17

       ... confident move. Like, you got the tight pants around the ankles.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub0:21

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:22

       Just riding high enough to see the Gucci shoes.

   14. BSBrendan Schaub0:24

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       I get it, bro.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub0:25

       Gucci denim, bro.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       I get it.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub0:27

       What's up, bro?

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:27

       I get it. (laughs)

   20. BSBrendan Schaub0:27

       (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:27

       It works. It works. (laughs) You can pull it off.

   22. BSBrendan Schaub0:31

       You were making fun of me going, "You..." (laughs) Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       (laughs)

   24. BSBrendan Schaub0:34

       Yeah. I was, I was, I was saying like, "Yeah, I bet you girls like these." You're like, "Yeah, girls also like dick though, man."

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       (laughs)

   26. BSBrendan Schaub0:41

       Good point. Legit point, sir.

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:43

       It's true. It's true.

   28. BSBrendan Schaub0:44

       It's so true. Dude, how about these fights? Let's get into them. Oh my God, how about these fights? How about I almost didn't see them and I texted you during the broadcast.

   29. JRJoe Rogan0:53

       Yeah.

   30. BSBrendan Schaub0:53

       The ESPN+ thing was a nightmare, man.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   I think I might.…

   1. BSBrendan Schaub15:00

      dude, I wanna see that fight in the flesh. Live? You're gonna do it?

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:03

      I think I might. I wanna see that, uh, goes down.

   3. BSBrendan Schaub15:07

      (inhales deeply) That's a great fight.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:08

      I wanna see... Whittaker is a fucking animal, man.

   5. BSBrendan Schaub15:11

      I think it was about his injuries.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:11

      Just think about how much pain that guy had to be in to, and almost fight with a hernia and a ruptured... He had a ruptured rectum, right?

   7. BSBrendan Schaub15:20

      Was it ruptured rectum? I thought it was just a hernia.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:23

      No, no, no, no, no.

   9. BSBrendan Schaub15:23

      I think his rectum's fine.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:24

       No, no, I think he had two major injuries.

   11. BSBrendan Schaub15:27

       No, I know, I know it was intestines were popping through.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:29

       Yeah, but I think it was another one.

   13. BSBrendan Schaub15:31

       Damn, his rectum was fucked up too?

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:32

       Yeah. So, isn't that... Didn't he have a tear?

   15. BSBrendan Schaub15:34

       Is that called a-

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:35

       Jamie'll find out.

   17. BSBrendan Schaub15:35

       ... hemorrhoid?

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:36

       No, no, no, like a tear.

   19. BSBrendan Schaub15:38

       In his ass?

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:38

       Well, you know, you think about the-

   21. BSBrendan Schaub15:40

       Do, Dwight Howard had that?

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:42

       ... fucking strain from sparring. Just think about getting taken down while you're trying to throw a kick. You land fucked up on your hip.

   23. BSBrendan Schaub15:48

       Never ripped my asshole.

   24. JRJoe Rogan15:48

       You could rip your asshole.

   25. BSBrendan Schaub15:49

       I, I'm just saying I never have.

   26. JRJoe Rogan15:50

       Catch a kick? You could catch a kick in the asshole.

   27. BSBrendan Schaub15:53

       Totally, yes.

   28. JRJoe Rogan15:53

       Yeah, easily, dude.

   29. BSBrendan Schaub15:54

       For sure.

   30. JRJoe Rogan15:54

       For sure.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   That's a pretty scary…

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      Is Yoel Romero the scariest fight for him?

   2. BSBrendan Schaub30:01

      That's a pretty scary fight.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:03

      Like stylistically, right?

   4. BSBrendan Schaub30:03

      He's scary for everybody.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:05

      He's scary for everybody.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub30:06

      Still.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:07

      40 years old. Jesus Christ.

   8. BSBrendan Schaub30:09

      Every bit of it too and just-

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:10

      Every bit of it.

   10. BSBrendan Schaub30:10

       ... monster.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:11

       Monster. And so explosive. And the fucking wrestling. His wrestling is on... It's from another planet.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub30:17

       And then you see it getting explosive-

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:19

       Yeah.

   14. BSBrendan Schaub30:19

       ... when he's striking.

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:20

       Yeah. He'll fuck you up. He'll spinning back fist you. You always gotta worry-

   16. BSBrendan Schaub30:24

       God, he's a fucking-

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:24

       ... about him exploding.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub30:25

       ... nightmare, man.

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:25

       'Cause you gotta worry about him exploding. If you try to catch a break, if you're like... you- you know, you're standing on the outside and you're both breathing and you're moving. You're like, "Maybe this is the time I'm gonna catch a break," and then all of a sudden, he flying knees you in the face and you didn't see it coming.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub30:38

       And whether you're Whittaker or Stylebender, whoever wins that fight in Australia, you're... you got Yoel Romero next.

   21. JRJoe Rogan30:43

       Yeah.

   22. BSBrendan Schaub30:43

       He's number one. I'm sure he's gonna fight-

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:45

       The question with him is-

   24. BSBrendan Schaub30:45

       ... before then, but...

   25. JRJoe Rogan30:46

       ... how much longer can he do that?

   26. BSBrendan Schaub30:48

       When's Father Time go, "Yoel, you're special, but-"

   27. JRJoe Rogan30:50

       Yeah.

   28. BSBrendan Schaub30:50

       "... let's go."

   29. JRJoe Rogan30:51

       Yeah. When is it, you know?

   30. BSBrendan Schaub30:53

       But Whitaker also might- might, the thing with Whitaker is he gets seriously injured after every fight and has to have surgery. When's that gonna catch up with him?
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Now I know who…

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      to fight Jonny?" He went, "Yeah, I'll fuck up Jon." Hmm. I think there's more to it. You think so? Yeah. What makes you say that? I don't know. Hmm. No reason at all. Maybe they did have some preliminary discussions as to whether or not the two would engage in fisticuffs. Maybe they did. That's a great fight. Could be. That's a great fight. That's a great fight. Stipe deserves it 100%. He deserves big fights, man. Look, the guy doesn't deserve to be forgotten. I mean- No, not at all, but again- His Francis Ngannou fight was one of the most impressive heavyweight title defenses. Agree. Because Francis was on fire. He was so dangerous. Do they have Francis ranked ahead of him now? That'd just be disrespectful. I don't think so. But Francis has done work. S- Stipe's gotta be the number one contender. No. What? B- DC-

   2. JVJamie Vernon45:41

      Now I know who Stipe is.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:42

      Stipe is number one? Yeah. Come on, man. Have to be, right? Have to be. You never know with rankings. Have to be. Have to be. Francis number two. Stipe, Francis. Yeah. S- Stipe beat Francis, it's that simple. Stipe beat Junior, it's that simple. Yeah, I mean, come on, man. Dude, Francis dos Santos, oh my God. Dude. But- I can't believe that's even happening. But it gets dicey down in heavyweight after- after six. It gets dicey. L- look, man. Francis- There's only 15 heavyweights in the world. Francis with take down defense, Francis with, uh, an understanding of what it's like to fight five rounds, and Francis with a little bit more experience, and good- Dude, him, dos Santos, fucking luck.

   4. JVJamie Vernon46:25

      Stipe booked a jujitsu match I saw.

   5. JRJoe Rogan46:27

      Did he really? Against who?

   6. JVJamie Vernon46:28

      Um, Stipe.

   7. JRJoe Rogan46:28

      Dude, imagine you blow your knee out in a jujitsu match and you can't fight for the title. Those jujitsu matches will backfire, you trust me. They're rough, man. And those big dudes wanna fuck you up. So especially if- It depends who he's going against. Right, that's true.

   8. JVJamie Vernon46:40

      Fight- fight to win 110 in Cleveland this weekend.

   9. JRJoe Rogan46:44

      Who's he- Please don't say it's the leg lock guy. Please don't say it's the leg lock guy. Bushido? Oh, no. (sniffs) Or Cyborg? Cyborg will rip your legs apart.

   10. JVJamie Vernon46:50

       No, it's not Cyborg. He fights...

   11. JRJoe Rogan46:52

       Or Gordon Ryan. Oh, my God. Gordon Ryan can't really do that right now, right? Or Garry Tonon. G- Gordon Ryan just tore his, uh, knee in surgery.

   12. JVJamie Vernon46:58

       No, it says no info on his opponent.

   13. JRJoe Rogan47:00

       Oh, okay. That's 'cause he's probably booking a fight. He's probably like, "See ya." Yeah. Dude, your boy, uh, Ben Askren is fighting. The o- the- Yeah, Bel- the fuck, not fighting. Masvidal. He's fighting Masvidal, but I'm saying he's doing wrestling.

   14. JVJamie Vernon47:09

       Uh, he's having a wrestling match with Jordan Burroughs, right?

   15. JRJoe Rogan47:11

       Yes. Isn't that crazy? God, man. Isn't that crazy? That's, like, May 6th, I think. You know, uh, if- if Ben Askren can really hang with Jordan Burroughs still- Dude.

   16. JVJamie Vernon47:22

       Mm-hmm.

   17. JRJoe Rogan47:22

       I, yeah. Insane. 'Cause everybody who rolls with him, I've never, uh, I never even clinched with him, but everybody who's done everything with him, like, I'll, the closest I came to a clinch is, like, that hug you do when you bro hug a dude. Yeah, get the over-under a little bit just to feel it out. (clears throat) But they say that it's like he's got four arms. They say, dude, it's ridiculous. Oh, yeah. I've heard stories about him. Yeah. I feel like it doesn't even make sense. I- I've heard Wally Wops, world champions, we all know. Yeah, just ragdolls people. That's how good his wrestling is. I mean, if you see that fight with Robbie Lawler, the fucking bombs that guy took. (laughs) That's fucked up for our big man. And the fact that he still figured out a way to get a hold of Robbie Lawler's neck, that he still figured out a way to get him into that headlock. And once, and Robbie knew he wanted to clinch with him, he couldn't keep him off him. Dude, I was sweating in that fight 'cause you and I hyped him up- Woo! ... so much. I was like, "Oh, please don't get starched in the first round." Mm-hmm. It's still a super controversial ending to me. Um- What, you had Herb on. What'd he say? Well, Herb said, y- uh, that, uh, first of all, Herb Dean is the shit. Nice guy. Couldn't be nicer. Great guy. But e- I love his perspective. He's so laid back and his ego is so healthy. Like when he talks about things, like y- you don't see any, i- i- it's very reasoned, like the way he approaches things. Like a Buddha sloth. But he's just, like, chilled out, and he's, like, very self-deprecating and chilled out about it. But he had a very good point. He was like, that's not just a manipulation of the neck, like, in terms of, like, cutting off the carotid artery. Correct. He's like, this is a manipulation of the spine. It's like a, a bit of a neck crank. And he's- Didn't even think about that. ... he was talking about, like, you look how he's got a hold of the head and how as he goes, the real, what I'm concerned with is if someone's going unconscious from, from some nerve shit. Oh, wow. Yeah, like from a neck crank. Like, apparently h- he had seen a guy who had gotten neck cranked like that, and then afterwards, the guy couldn't walk. He, like, couldn't move. It came back, but for moments. Still. But for moments, he couldn't move, and he was terrified. See, this is just shit we don't need to think about. I'm like, dude- Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. Herb- That's why he's Herb Dean. He's the gold standard. He's the gold standard. It's Big John McCarthy and him, and Big John doesn't do it anymore. So it's Herb Dean- So it's Herb Dean. ... numero uno. And, um, just that, when you think about i- and Askren says, what he says is that, see, that's nasty, dude. That looks terrible. That's nasty. With the way he's holding onto the head like that and, and cranking your neck- I like that they're not rematching. ... it's a very bad position. I like that UFC went, "Oh, all right, we're good." Yeah? I, I dig that. I, I get it. I wanna see it again. I, like, I, I, I disagree. I think that, um...I, I agree with Herb's stoppage and, uh, I, I see the, that the arm went limp, but then the thumb came up, but then as soon as he let go, Robbie jumped up. Usman had me convinced that Robbie was never out, but Herb had me convinced that it was too dangerous for him to allow-

   18. BSBrendan Schaub50:09

       To keep going?

   19. JRJoe Rogan50:10

       ... it to continue once the arm dropped in that weird way.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub50:12

       So do you side with Herb?

   21. JRJoe Rogan50:13

       You have to side with Herb-

   22. BSBrendan Schaub50:14

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan50:14

       ... in that situation.

   24. BSBrendan Schaub50:15

       He's the expert.

   25. JRJoe Rogan50:15

       You have to side with Herb 'cause he's right, because that is a special circumstance. See, I looked at it in terms... And, and I didn't even consider this when I was talking to Usman, that I looked at it in terms of it's just a choke.

   26. BSBrendan Schaub50:26

       Yeah, me too.

   27. JRJoe Rogan50:26

       And Herb's like, "No, it's a neck crank."

   28. BSBrendan Schaub50:27

       Me too.

   29. JRJoe Rogan50:29

       So, but still, I'd love to see it again.

   30. BSBrendan Schaub50:32

       I'd like to see it next.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:01:12

   Especially at that level.…

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      Just having a-

   2. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:01

      Especially at that level.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:01

      ... little longer camp-

   4. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:02

      100%.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:03

      ... not being injured, uh, the last couple of weeks where you lost some cardio. You know those awful feelings? Well, if you have the opposite of those awful feelings, of n- instead of being compromised, being enhanced-

   6. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:13

      It's gonna help your hair too.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:14

      It's gonna help you then.

   8. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:14

      Exactly. It's gonna help your head. You're gonna come in there like a fucking champion, to that, uh, what's that song he always comes in to?

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:21

      Oh, uh, give it away, give it away?

   10. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:23

       Doesn't he go-

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:23

       No. Is that what he comes in with?

   12. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:24

       Oh, no, he comes in, he comes with the Red Hot Chili Peppers.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:26

       Oh. Does he really? (singing)

   14. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:28

       I always forget, guys, wa- the only guy whose walkout music I always remember, two, two, one was, of course, Matt Hughes, because he'd come out to Country Boy Can Survive.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:40

       Country Boy, yeah.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:42

       That fucking song. Who's the other?

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:44

       Randy Couture when he came out to Stranglehold.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:46

       Oh, interesting. Not Anderson Silva? DMX?

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:48

       Oh, that's right.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:49

       That shit was fire.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:00:50

       Yeah. (laughs)

   22. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:52

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:00:52

       Bro.

   24. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:52

       That was scary.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:00:54

       Mickey Gall's got the best one though.

   26. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:56

       You think?

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:00:57

       Oh, Mickey, you're so fine. You're so fine.

   28. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:58

       Oh, I don't like that one. I don't like that, no, I don't like that one.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01:01

       Come on, man.

   30. JVJamie Vernon1:01:01

       Wonder Boy's got a good one.

Episode duration: 2:24:56