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JRE MMA Show #90 with Rashad Evans

Joe sits down with former UFC Light Heavyweight Champion, and a 2019 inductee of the UFC Hall of Fame, Rashad Evans.

Joe RoganhostRashad Evansguest
Feb 10, 20202h 24mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Rashad Evans Explains How Psychedelics, Veganism Transformed Fighting and Life

  1. Joe Rogan and Rashad Evans move from joking about wallets and fanny packs into a deep discussion on psychedelics, diet, and life after elite MMA. Evans details how powerful mushroom and 5-MeO-DMT experiences sparked an 'ego death,' ended his desire for meat, and shifted him toward a vegan lifestyle and more spiritual outlook.
  2. He breaks down the physical and psychological fallout from multiple ACL surgeries, how they changed his explosiveness and identity as a fighter, and how psychedelics helped him process retirement and detach his ego from competition.
  3. They also cover psilocybin research Evans is involved with through Unlimited Sciences and Johns Hopkins, the evolution of MMA training, equipment innovations like Trevor Wittman’s Onyx gloves, and a technical breakdown of current UFC matchups and judging controversies.
  4. Throughout, Evans contrasts the mindset required to become a champion—anger, obsession, paranoia—with the calmer, more self-aware approach he’s trying to cultivate in himself and younger fighters today.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Deep psychedelic work can radically shift identity and behavior.

Evans describes 5-MeO-DMT and high-dose mushroom ceremonies causing an ego death and a visceral realization about “eating dead, rotting flesh,” which instantly erased his craving for meat and reframed his life mentally, physically, and spiritually.

Diet changes can enhance recovery and endurance, not just weight.

After going vegan and focusing on whole foods, greens, and medicinal mushrooms, Evans reports more stable energy, faster recovery, and the ability to spar hard for up to an hour, despite being older and training less often.

Unprocessed retirement and injury can damage a fighter’s psyche as much as their body.

Multiple ACL surgeries robbed Evans of his leg power and explosiveness, which were core to his style and identity; psychedelics helped him accept he wasn’t the same fighter and to separate his self-worth from being “elite.”

Visualization is a powerful training tool when physical work is limited.

Evans used detailed mental rehearsals—round‑by‑round scenarios, executing perfect techniques, repeatedly overcoming adversity—to compensate for reduced hard training, increasing confidence and readiness on fight night.

MMA judging and equipment are still behind the sport’s technical reality.

They highlight egregious scorecards in recent fights like Jones–Reyes, discuss how late-round dominance arguably should matter more, and show how current UFC gloves promote eye pokes—issues Trevor Wittman’s curved Onyx gloves directly address.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

It said, ‘You stink because you eat dead, rotting flesh. If you want life, then you eat life.’

Rashad Evans

When I had the ego death, I felt my ego, who I thought I was, completely annihilated and I got to experience the ocean of consciousness.

Rashad Evans

A real breakthrough psychedelic experience is gonna make you humble. It makes you realize this thin thing we’re touching right now is not everything.

Joe Rogan

Towards the end of my career, I just wasn’t that same fighter anymore. The things that used to be my fuel, I made peace with them.

Rashad Evans

Now I’m to the point where I just want to help people. I lived a lot of my life for myself; now I want to help other people achieve what they want in life.

Rashad Evans

Psychedelic experiences (mushrooms, 5-MeO-DMT, ayahuasca) and ego deathTransition from meat-eating athlete to vegan and its effects on performanceCareer-altering knee injuries, lost explosiveness, and psychological impact of declineIdentity crisis and emotional transition after retiring from elite MMAPsilocybin research and Unlimited Sciences collaboration with Johns HopkinsTechnical analysis of Jon Jones, Dominick Reyes, judging issues, and other UFC matchupsEvolution of MMA training, coaching (Mark Henry, Trevor Wittman), and new equipment (Onyx gloves)

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