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Behind the scenes of Calendly’s rapid growth | Annie Pearl (CPO)

Annie Pearl is the Chief Product Officer at Calendly. Previously, she was Chief Product Officer at Glassdoor, as well as Director of Product Management at Box. She was named one of the most influential women in Bay Area business by the San Francisco Business Times. In today’s episode, Annie shares three paths into product management and advice on how to get your foot in the door. She also gives us an inside look at how Calendly’s product teams are structured, how they transitioned from solely PLG to adding a sales team and unlocking new growth levers, how they do planning, and much more. — Brought to you by Miro—A collaborative visual platform where your best work comes to life: https://miro.com/lenny | Coda—Meet the evolution of docs: https://coda.io/lenny | Vanta—Automate compliance. Simplify security: https://vanta.com/lenny Find the full transcript here: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/behind-the-scenes-of-calendlys-rapid Where to find Annie Pearl: • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anniepearl/ • Email: Annie.Pearl@calendly.com Where to find Lenny: • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com • Twitter: https://twitter.com/lennysan • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/ Referenced: • How to send a calendar invite with Calendly: https://calendly.com/blog/how-to-send-a-calendar-invite • Google’s APM program: https://careers.google.com/programs/apm/ • The 15 Best Associate and Rotational Product Manager Programs: https://medium.com/agileinsider/product-management-digest-apm-3c2631683139 • Playing to Win: How Strategy Really Works: https://www.amazon.com/Playing-Win-Strategy-Really-Works/dp/142218739X/ • Confluence: https://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence • Aha: https://www.aha.io/ • Airtable: https://www.airtable.com/ • Loom: https://www.loom.com/ • Jira: https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira • Pendo: https://go.pendo.io/ • Tope Awotona on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bawotona/ • The Skip podcast: https://www.skip.community/ • Skip Community on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/skip-community-for-cpos/ • Nikhyl Singhal on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhyl/ • Good to Great: Why Some Companies Make the Leap and Others Don’t: https://www.amazon.com/Good-Great-Some-Companies-Others/dp/0066620996 • Hooked: How to Build Habit-Forming Products: https://www.amazon.com/Hooked-How-Build-Habit-Forming-Products/dp/0241184835/ • 20VC podcast: https://www.thetwentyminutevc.com/ • Sing 2 on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/title/81475311 • Miro: https://miro.com/ In this episode, we cover: (00:00) Annie’s background (03:50) How to send a Calendly invite without feeling awkward (06:04) How to transition to product work from a non-technical career (09:53) APM programs (10:52) The characteristics of internal-transfer PMs (13:26) How Calendly structures product teams (14:57) Why Annie hired a Head of Design (16:58) How Calendly structures product teams (19:07) OKRs at Calendly (21:02) Changes made at Calendly to improve execution and shipping (22:45) The challenges with narrowing Calendly’s customer base and adding sales (25:21) Where 70% of new Calendly users come from (26:17) The transition from PLG to sales (29:23) How to build a great relationship with your sales team (31:52) Planning and prioritization at Calendly (38:14) Strategy documents at Calendly (39:39) Calendly’s product stack (40:21) How Calendly got their first 1,000 users (43:36) The surprising new growth levers at Calendly (46:05) Fun traditions (48:43) “Focus wisely” and other aspects of Calendly’s culture (52:07) Learnings from Box and Glassdoor (54:57) The Skip Community (58:10) Lightning round Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com.

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Feb 25, 20231h 1mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Calendly’s CPO reveals product strategy, PLG-to-sales shift, and growth

  1. Chief Product Officer Annie Pearl shares how Calendly structures its product organization, plans roadmaps, and uses OKRs to align company-wide execution.
  2. She explains Calendly’s evolution from a purely product-led growth engine to layering on a fast-growing sales-led motion, including how they think about PQLs and enterprise buyers.
  3. Annie details their product strategy framework, heavy focus on clear ICPs and personas, and how this focus drives prioritization and trade-offs.
  4. She also offers concrete advice on breaking into product management, running effective planning and discovery, and maintaining a strong product culture in a fast-scaling, fully-remote company.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Use multiple paths to transition into product management, but internal moves are often most effective.

Annie outlines four main paths—APM programs, junior PM roles (often internal), shadowing/SME roles, and joining early-stage startups—and notes that the most common success pattern she’s seen is people in adjacent roles proactively partnering with PMs and informally doing PM work before transferring.

A clear, explicit product strategy centered on where to play unlocks real prioritization.

Using the Playing to Win framework, Calendly defined markets, segments, and personas (e.g., sales, recruiting, CS teams) and used that to confidently say no to out-of-ICP requests (like a Venmo integration), which reduced thrash and improved decision speed and product quality.

Tie OKRs from the company level down through departments to avoid siloed execution.

Calendly evolved from no OKRs, to product-only OKRs, to a small set of company-wide OKRs with tightly integrated cross-functional plans and dependency mapping, which significantly improved alignment and execution across teams.

When layering sales on top of PLG, hire for the motion and buyer you actually have now.

Early on, Calendly’s sales reps worked mostly inbound and PQLs and sold to team leads, not CIOs; Annie emphasizes hiring reps with experience in similar inbound, department-head-focused motions rather than classic heavy outbound, CIO-focused enterprise sellers.

Viral PLG growth eventually plateaus; future growth often comes from team and enterprise use.

Although ~70% of Calendly signups still come from viral links, the fastest-growing segment is multi-user teams and departments; product and sales are now heavily oriented around departmental and organizational deployments instead of only solo users.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Strategy is really just an integrated set of choices that outline how you're going to win in whatever marketplace you choose.

Annie Pearl

The ability to say no is going to allow you to make sure you're building something that's going to be amazing for the people that matter most and not something that's going to be average or okay for a lot of different people.

Annie Pearl

70% of our sign-ups come through that viral loop that you referred to.

Annie Pearl

When you transition from kind of PLG to sales-led, the buyer is usually just the department head… selling into this audience is different than selling into IT.

Annie Pearl

Our vision, our winning aspiration, is to become the best place to schedule, prepare for, and follow up on your external meetings.

Annie Pearl

Breaking into product management from non-traditional and non-technical backgroundsCalendly’s product org structure, roles (PM, design, research, ops), and leadershipProduct strategy, focus on ICPs/personas, and prioritization using the Playing to Win frameworkOKRs evolution and integrated company-level planning across departmentsTransition from pure product-led growth (PLG) to adding a sales-led growth (SLG) motionCalendly’s growth loops, first 1,000 users story, and team vs. solo usageProduct development lifecycle, discovery/solutioning/build/launch, and internal product culture rituals

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