Lenny's PodcastJM Nickels: Why conscious leaders beat optics-first managers
Through self-aware presence, an honest objective function, and first-principles vision; Uber, Waymo, DoorDash veteran treats fear, sadness, anger, joy as data.
Episode Details
EPISODE INFO
- Released
- October 6, 2024
- Duration
- 1h 18m
- Channel
- Lenny's Podcast
- Watch on YouTube
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EPISODE DESCRIPTION
JM Nickels is a Senior Director of Product Management at Uber. Previously, he was Head of Product for Commercialization at Waymo and led product teams at DoorDash. JM is also a coach and advisor focused on conscious leadership. In our conversation, we discuss:
- How to sharpen your vision and strategy skills
- What “conscious leadership” means and how to practice it
- Practical techniques for managing stress
- The power of soft skills and emotional intelligence in product leadership
- Lessons from working at Uber, Waymo, and DoorDash
- Keys to living a successful and fulfilling life
- Much more
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Find the transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/becoming-a-conscious-leader-john-mark-nickels Where to find John Mark Nickels:
- X: https://x.com/nickelsjm
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmnickels/
- Website: https://www.rhythmofbeing.com/
Where to find Lenny:
- Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com
- X: https://twitter.com/lennysan
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/
In this episode, we cover: (00:00) Introduction to JM (02:02) Conscious leadership explained (03:41) The power of soft skills (07:34) Navigating Uber’s evolution (12:41) Embracing emotions and inner work (21:46) Crafting strategy and vision (41:16) Balancing vision and execution (46:13) Lessons from DoorDash, Uber, and Waymo (52:32) The future of autonomous ride-hailing (55:18) Contrarian corner: Embracing emotions in the workplace (59:47) Keys to a fulfilling life (01:04:45) Taking responsibility and agency (01:07:29) Lightning round and final thoughts Referenced:
- The Power of Soft Skills: Our Favorite Reads: https://hbr.org/2023/05/the-power-of-soft-skills-our-favorite-reads
- Theodore Roosevelt quote: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/theodore_roosevelt_130674
- Content vs. Context: https://conscious.is/video/content-vs-context
- Travis Kalanick on X: https://x.com/travisk
- Garrett van Ryzin on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/garrett-van-ryzin-7084a1/
- Mike Isaac on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikejisaac/
- Dara Khosrowshahi on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dara-khosrowshahi-70949862/
- Reid Hoffman on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/reidhoffman/
- Wim Hof breathing exercises: https://www.wimhofmethod.com/breathing-exercises
- The Breath Vault: https://george-ramsay-s-school.teachable.com/p/the-breath-vault
- Waking Up app on the Apple Store: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/waking-up-meditation-wisdom/id1307736395
- The 5AM Club: Own Your Morning. Elevate Your Life: https://www.amazon.com/AM-Club-Morning-Elevate-Life/dp/1443456624
- The Lion Tracker’s Guide to Life: https://www.amazon.com/Lion-Trackers-Guide-Life/dp/0358099773/
- Nelson Mandela: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Mandela
- Brent Goldman on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brentgoldman/
- LIDAR: https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/lidar
- Lessons from Pixar 1: The Braintrust: https://medium.com/great-business-stories/lessons-from-pixar-1-the-braintrust-e306843a5153
- Creativity, Inc.: Overcoming the Unseen Forces That Stand in the Way of True Inspiration: https://www.amazon.com/Creativity-Inc-Overcoming-Unseen-Inspiration/dp/0812993012
- Paul Graham’s website: https://www.paulgraham.com/
- Time management techniques that actually work: https://substack.com/@lenny/p-147172995
- Getting Things Done website: https://gettingthingsdone.com/
- Getting Things Done: The Art of Stress-Free Productivity: https://www.amazon.com/Getting-Things-Done-Stress-Free-Productivity/dp/0142000280
- Mark Zuckerberg on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@zuck
- Daniel Ek on X: https://x.com/eldsjal
- Jeff Bezos on X: https://x.com/jeffbezos
- Waymo: https://waymo.com/
- Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/
- Cruise: https://www.getcruise.com/
- Motional: https://motional.com/
- Ray Dalio “write down your principles” activity: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/raydalio_if-you-write-your-principles-down-1-you-activity-7003078168060297216-XnjV/
- How Will You Measure Your Life?: https://www.amazon.com/How-Will-Measure-Your-Life/dp/0062102419
- Seneca: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seneca_the_Younger
- Marcus Aurelius: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Aurelius
- Man’s Search for Meaning: https://www.amazon.com/Mans-Search-Meaning-Viktor-Frankl/dp/0807014273/
- The 15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership: A New Paradigm for Sustainable Success: https://www.amazon.com/15-Commitments-Conscious-Leadership-Sustainable/dp/0990976904
Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com. Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed.
SPEAKERS
JM Nickels
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EPISODE SUMMARY
In this episode of Lenny's Podcast, featuring JM Nickels and Lenny Rachitsky, JM Nickels: Why conscious leaders beat optics-first managers explores conscious leadership, emotional mastery, and visionary strategy in product JM Nichols, a longtime product leader at Uber, DoorDash, and Waymo, shares how ‘conscious leadership’—deep self-awareness and responsibility for one’s influence—can transform both work and life.
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