Taking control of your career | Ethan Evans (Amazon)

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Released

January 14, 2024

Duration

1h 21m

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Lenny's Podcast

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📝 EPISODE DESCRIPTION

Ethan Evans is a writer, career coach, course instructor, and retired VP at Amazon. During his 15 years at Amazon, he helped invent Prime Video, Amazon Video, the Amazon Appstore, Prime Gaming (formerly Twitch Prime), and Twitch Commerce. Prior to Amazon, Ethan spent 12 years in technical leadership roles at several East Coast startups. He writes a newsletter, Level Up, which publishes candid career advice and has a growing community of ambitious professionals to connect with. Ethan also offers a range of Leadership Development Courses via live online classes and on-demand courses. In this episode, we discuss:

• The Magic Loop framework: a five-step process to grow your career
• A handful of reasons why people get stuck in their career growth
• Advice on how to break out of a career plateau
• How to cultivate inventiveness in your work
• How to stand out in interviews
• A personal story of failing Jeff Bezos and lessons learned
• Contrarian opinions on the return-to-office movement and doing business on a handshake

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In this episode, we cover: (00:00) Ethan’s background (04:25) The Magic Loop (08:31) The goal of the Magic Loop (10:59) Clarifications on the framework (12:46) Success stories (17:22) The importance and effectiveness of the Magic Loop (19:01) A quick summary of the steps in the Magic Loop (21:46) What if you’re not pursuing a promotion? (23:09) How to break out of a career plateau (28:52) How to become systematically inventive (36:04) Interview advice and how to stand out (40:43) A story of failing Jeff Bezos (50:31) Lessons learned from that failure (57:30) What Ethan would have done differently (01:00:35) Amazon’s leadership principles (01:08:52) Contrarian corner: Returning to the office vs. staying remote (01:10:39) Contrarian corner: Doing business on a handshake (01:11:52) Lightning round Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com. Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed.

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🧾 EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of Lenny's Podcast, featuring Ethan Evans and Lenny Rachitsky, Taking control of your career | Ethan Evans (Amazon) explores amazon VP shares “Magic Loop” playbook to own your career Former Amazon VP Ethan Evans explains the Magic Loop, a five-step system for taking control of your career progression regardless of how strong your manager is. He stresses aligning with your manager by first excelling at your current role, proactively helping them, and then tying that help to your own explicit career goals. The conversation expands into how senior managers break through to executive levels, how to be systematically inventive, and how to stand out in interviews. Evans illustrates these ideas with stories from Amazon, including a major launch failure with Jeff Bezos that he recovered from, and his role in shaping Amazon’s ‘Ownership’ leadership principle.

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