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Why This Work Is Taking Off: From Information to Application
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
I'm starting to realize how conditioned we are into believing how limited we are.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And as you start peeling those layers away, and you break through those beliefs, those self-limiting thoughts and emotions, on the other side of that is where the miraculous happens. [upbeat music]
- LHLewis Howes
Welcome back everyone to the School of Greatness Podcast. We have the legendary Dr. Joe Dispenza in the house.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
[laughs]
- LHLewis Howes
My man. The last interview-
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Sorry
- LHLewis Howes
... we did, uh, took over the world, took over the internet. Over a million views on YouTube in less than 10 months. The audio is in the top 10 of all of our, our podcasts ever, out of 800 something episodes. So people need the information that you have, and there's a reason, um, that you're so effective with your work, and there's just so many transformations in your work. And we were just talking before about how people are literally transformed when they read your books, when they listen to interviews like this with you, when they go through week-long workshops of some of the crazy stuff that you do. And I was asking you, you know, why is this stuff really taking off now in the last year, year and a half?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Mm-hmm.
- LHLewis Howes
Because you've been doing this work for a couple decades now, right?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
Two decades?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah, just about, yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
Almost two decades, and you've been in tons of documentaries, movies. You've been in, doing interviews for a long time. But really, it's taken off in the last year, and you said because now we have evidence of about a lot of things that you're working on.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Mm-hmm.
- LHLewis Howes
The things that you've been believing for so many years, that you knew worked for you, and you saw transformation with yourself. We're not gonna go into your accident, because that's in the last interview. Um, but now we have proof and evidence and science backing all this, and how did that start to happen?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah. It's a, it's a great dialogue because, um, I think this is a time in history where it's not enough to know.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
This is a time in history to know how. And [clears throat] if you rewind the tape 10 years ago, you know, information was the thing that stimulated thought, stimulated new ideas, and, and as we learn new things, we make new connections in our brains. So [clears throat] as we begin to add new stitches into that three-dimensional tapestry in our mind, we're beginning to cause our mind to function in new ways. But the key then is to apply it, to personalize it, to do something with it. And, and 10 years ago, when I went out, got in front of an audience and talked about the application, it, it, nobody wanted to step outside that philosophical, theoretical, intellectual realm, right? 'Cause when doing something means you're gonna have to change something about yourself.
- LHLewis Howes
Painful.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah, you're gonna get uncomfortable, right?
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And, um, [clears throat] I think we're in an age of information, and in an age of information, ignorance is a choice. And because of technology, we have access to so much content, and information creates awareness, and awareness is consciousness, and you can't have consciousness without energy. They're, they work together. So there's an energetic change, I think, that's taking place in the world right now, where people are so informed that old models, old paradigms are beginning to break down.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Whether it's the medical model or the religious model, the education model, journalism, uh, the, the economy, you know, um, politics. It's all beginning to, uh, come to the surface because something else has to come out. And, and I think that one of the things that, uh, people are realizing is that you don't have to be a Buddhist monk to do this or-
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... a, a nun with 40 years of devotion. You just gotta understand the formula. And just like any skill or anything you learn, you gotta go from thinking to doing to being. You gotta take knowledge, you, you create the experience, and if you keep doing it over and over again, you start getting a skill or you start getting wise about how to do it, and you, you know that you know how to do it.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Well, in the last 10 years, we have assembled a scientific team, and let's see if you can really make significant brain changes. I, I don't want those changes to just be in your mind. I want them to be in your brain, and I wanna be able to see before and after pictures to say-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm
- 6:50 – 13:02
Feeling Worthy: Telling the Story of Your Future, Not Your Past
- LHLewis Howes
How does someone feel worthy, though, if they've always been told they're not worthy?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah. Well, so let me-
- LHLewis Howes
Or, or that's the story they tell themselves.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah. Yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
Like, "I'm not worth it because-
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah
- LHLewis Howes
... she didn't say yes when I asked her on a date."
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Right.
- LHLewis Howes
"Because he broke up with me, because I got fired."
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
"Because my parents left me." How do they... how am I worth it when-
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah
- LHLewis Howes
... there's so much evidence or story around-
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Right
- LHLewis Howes
... a negative thing?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Well, let's stop telling the story of your past and let's start telling the story of your future. And, and people who aren't defined by a vision of the future, for the most part, are left with memories of the past. The-
- LHLewis Howes
Oh
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... your brain is a record of the past. It's an artifact of everything you've learned and experienced to this moment. So most people wake up in the morning and they start thinking about their problems.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah. [laughs]
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And those problems are memories that are tattooed in the brain that are associated to certain people and things at certain times and places. So the momen- the person wakes up clean slate, they start thinking about the problems. They're thinking in the past. If you believe your thoughts have something to do with your destiny, well, there's a possibility that your past is gonna be your future.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Every one of those problems has an emotion associated with it. So then the moment you start recalling the problem, you start feeling unhappy, now your body's in the past because thoughts are the language of the brain and feelings are the language of the body.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And how you think and how you feel creates a state of being. So people reaffirm their identity based on the past, right? And it turns out that-
- LHLewis Howes
Wow
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... the redundancy of doing that, conditioning only requires, requires an image and an emotion. Now, most people are unconsciously conditioning their body into the familiar past, into the known. So now if you're in the familiar past and in the known, you're gonna crave the predictable future.
- LHLewis Howes
Right.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Right? That's the known as well. And there's only one place where the unknown exists, and that's the eternal present moment.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
That's the sweet spot of the generous present moment. So you gotta, you gotta labor to get that person beyond the emotions that keep them tacked or anchored to the past. And yes, it takes an effort to do that, but if you keep working with the formula, you'll reach that elegant moment where there's a liberation of energy.
- 13:02 – 18:05
Self-Regulation and Heart Coherence: How to Start
- LHLewis Howes
How do you maintain it when, when life happens?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
That's, that's practice. Well, let me finish. It would-
- LHLewis Howes
If I punch you in the face right now, how do you main- [laughs]
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Well, of course. Of course. I mean, we all take blows in our lives.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And, and we all react emotionally, but the question is, how long are you gonna react?
- LHLewis Howes
Right. Right. How-
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
So then if you can't mediate and regulate your-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... emotional reactions, and those emotions linger for days, that's a mood.
- LHLewis Howes
Years for some people.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Mood, and then a, months, temperament, years, personality trait. So then the person's personality is literally based on the past.
- LHLewis Howes
Crazy.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
But they don't know that because they're doing it over and over again, and it becomes a subconscious program. So now if requires a coherent brain and a coherent heart, then we have to train people-
- LHLewis Howes
Uh-huh
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... how to self-regulate. So we've done thousands and thousands of measurements. We've partnered with the HeartMath Institute to teach people how to create and sustain heart coherence.
- LHLewis Howes
How do we do it?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Well-
- LHLewis Howes
Besides going to your workshop, what's the simplified version? I'm sure it takes more time than-
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Well, it really doesn't.
- LHLewis Howes
Oh.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
It really doesn't. It just requires getting still, closing your eyes, putting your attention on your heart, changing your breath so that you move into the present moment. And when you slow your breathing down, you slow your brainwaves down. When you slow your brainwaves down, now you're accessing your autonomic nervous system. So then you train a person how to open their heart and feel an elevated emotion, and it takes a little practice. And just like a flower that, that takes time to bloom-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... it takes a little bit of time.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
But if you work in trading the resentment, the frustration, or the impatience for gratitude, appreciation, and thankfulness, and you keep at it, there'll come a moment where that system switches on, and now you're feeling grateful for no reason at all.
- LHLewis Howes
Right. [laughs]
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Now, that's, that's not a bad thing because gratitude, the emotional signature of gratitude means something's happening to you, something has happened to you-
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... you're receiving something, or you just received something. So your body then, when you're feeling gratitude, is in the perfect state of receiving.
- 18:05 – 21:11
Research Evidence: Immune Function, Genes and Brain Scans
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
So then what about what happens to your immune system when you do that? Well, it turns out we've done an experiment. Just 10 minutes a day- Three times a day with 120 people, trading resentment, frustration, fear for gratitude-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... appreciation, and thankfulness, measuring their immune response. The, the chemical immunoglobulin A, your primary defense against bacteria and viruses, the best flu shot you'll ever get-
- LHLewis Howes
[laughs]
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... lives withi- innately within you. Turns out when you're frustrated, when you're impatient, when you're fearful, the immune system dials down because you're in emergency. It's not, it's ... All your energy's going for some threat in your outer world. There's no energy in your inner world for growth and repair, but how do you turn that around? So then as people begin to open their heart, can that chemical begin to, to, um, elevate?
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Four days, 50% change in the 120 people. Their, their IgA levels went up 50% in four days.
- LHLewis Howes
Wow.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
That's your body's immune system is now upregulating genes that are making proteins and immunoglobulins and, and antibodies that you don't need a flu shot. I- in other words, your inner state is greater than your outer world.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
So then just by doing that, we now know that your immune system is going to get stronger by the same means. Take 120 people or 50 people and measure 7,500 gene regulations, okay? In four days, two genes that suppress cancer growth and tumors are activated and upregulated. The genes that stimulate the stem cells to go to damaged tissues and repair them, upregulated. The gene for oxidative balance is upregulated. Anti-cancer, anti-aging-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... anti-heart disease, anti-stroke, anti-neurodegenerative, anti-inflammatory, anti-microbial, just your body's naturally doing this. The gene for neurogenesis, the growth of new neurons in response to novel experiences and learning, this is four days-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... the gene switches on. Uh, the, the gene for, uh, more balance in the pituitary and the pancreas, the gene for the microtubules of the cells, the, the little, the little fibers that respond to energy and frequency.
- LHLewis Howes
Right.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
So in four days, we now know that you can change your genetic destiny if you just practice the inner work. We have research to show that 60 days of meditation, five days a week, will lengthen your life.
- LHLewis Howes
Wow.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
The telomeres, the little shoestrings on the end of your DNA, get longer. That means your biological age is changing. So we, we have the evidence now to show people what's possible. We have brain scans that, that are so outside of normal that when neuroscientists see them, they're blown away because the amount of energy that's in the brain during this transcendental moment is, uh, hundreds of times outside of normal.
- LHLewis Howes
Wow.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
I mean, you can't make your brain do that. Something is happening to you, and that person's having a transcendental moment.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And we now know that we can predict it, and we now that, know that we can induce it. So then there's the evidence there.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- 21:11 – 26:55
Community Testimonies and Science as the Language of Mysticism
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Then you take our community, and you see people with stage four cancer, with Parkinson's disease, with myasthenia gravis, with, with lupus, with MS, with, uh, brain injuries, uh, uh, with rare genetic disorders, with, uh, vertigo, uh, tinnitus, uh, all, uh, kidney failure, all kinds of health conditions come to a week-long event, and then at the end of that event, they make significant strides in getting beyond the emotions of the past. Now, think about this. The science says that the environment signals the gene. That's epigenetics.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
The end product of an experience in the environment is an emotion, so as long as you're living by the same emotion every single day, you're signaling the same gene in the same way.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And if that gene is related to a survival emotion, a stress hormone, then you're downregulating the gene, and you're creating disease. So when the person trades that emotion and really breaks free from the chains of their past, and now they're feeling an elevated emotion, well, now they're dialing down the gene for MS-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... and they're upregulating the gene for health and balance. And so the person, well, you'll say to them, "Where's the disease?" "Well, I'm not the same person."
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
"I'm, I'm not the..." And, and the side effect of that is a transformation and healing. So the funny thing about it is the person who has the healing is not talking about the healing, whether it's blind people seeing, deaf people hearing, hearing. We have crazy evidence now. What they're talking about is how amazing they feel-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... because they're refreshed. They're, they're, they're, they got a new lease on life.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And so now we have evidence in our research, and that silences the critic to s- to show that what's possible for people. And now we have evidence and testimony, that we have evidence where people will stand on the stage and say, "Hey, I broke my back in three places. I, I haven't been able to stand up straight. I came into this event hunched over. I couldn't lay down." And now this guy's jumping around on the stage. He's laying on his back. He's touching his toes. He's-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... he's ... You can tell, I mean, this is, this, he, he's, he's having his moment. We freed, we changed somebody.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Someone with Parkinson's disease can't swallow.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Can't chew, can't blow her nose, can't stand up. One moment, one moment, the next thing you know, she's blowing her nose, chewing and swallowing. We changed her body, we changed her life, and we changed her future. And she doesn't look like a movie star, and she doesn't look like she's a vegetarian, and she doesn't look like she's buffed. She just looks like a normal person. Now, the person in the audience who's watching that and looking at this person and seeing that they're no different than them, it just starts to-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... cause them to think, "If someone else can do it, I can do it." So you see the person with the stage four cancer that got the, you know, the voodoo curse that they have three months to live, and now they have no evidence of cancer in their body, and they're standing on the stage telling that story.
- LHLewis Howes
Wow.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And somebody in the audience is checking her out, going, "I have the same condition, and if she can do it, I'm gonna step right in that footprint. I'm gonna do it-
- LHLewis Howes
Wow
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... the way she did it." And all of a sudden, you start seeing this change in the community in a week-long event because once there's a breakthrough, right, I mean, it's like a four-minute mile.
- LHLewis Howes
Everybody can do it, yeah
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... it's, it's in the field, you know?
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And, but it's not only in the field. You're seeing evidence in three-dimensional reality.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- 26:55 – 30:42
The Nurse Who Recovered Her Vision After a Stroke
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And so she, she [laughs] she wasn't satisfied with that answer, and she goes to one of her dear friends who's a physician, and the physician says, "Go check out this Dispenza guy." And she says, "Why don't you come with me?" So they come to our event in Brighton, in, in the UK together.
- LHLewis Howes
Was this within the two weeks, or was this later, do you know?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Oh, no, this is a year later.
- LHLewis Howes
Wow.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
This is a year later. And-
- LHLewis Howes
So it's supposed to be irreversible at that point.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah. And so, um, she comes to the event, and then she comes to the event for two reasons. To, listen to this, to learn how to live with her handicap. That's the extent of what's possible in her mind.
- LHLewis Howes
Have more peace and-
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah
- LHLewis Howes
... yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And, and then create a nonprofit to help people. Those were her two things.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
So somewhere in the middle of the event, we're, we're, uh, she, it occurs to her that she could actually possibly heal her eyes.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
So she goes for it. She lays down after one of the meditations, we lay down at the end, and all of a sudden, like, in her head, she starts feeling this heat and this crackling sensation. Now, you have one of two options when something like this happens.
- LHLewis Howes
[laughs] You get scared and run away.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
You get scared.
- LHLewis Howes
[laughs]
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
It's the unknown.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
You contract.
- LHLewis Howes
Like, ah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And your brain goes into high beta, and you disconnect.
- LHLewis Howes
Something's wrong.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Right, right.
- LHLewis Howes
Maybe I'm hurting something.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah, I'm having another stroke, whatever. Or you surrender and relax into it.
- LHLewis Howes
You dive in. Yeah, you go in. Yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And she, she let go, and she, she had the most incredible experience. She laid there for the longest time, opened her eyes, and she said it was like the lights came back on.
- LHLewis Howes
Wow.
- 30:42 – 35:10
Christian Science Upbringing and the Cycle of Outer Dependence
- LHLewis Howes
it's interesting. I think I might have talked to you about this last time, that I grew up in a religion called Christian Science that talked a lot about this.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Mm-hmm.
- LHLewis Howes
You know, I, it was embedded in my mind that I'm a spiritual being, and that I can never be physically hurt. Like, there, I'm not a material body, that there are no accidents, that there's no injury, and it was always embedded in my mind that I can never be physically harmed or I, I can be instantly healed. And so my entire childhood, I had all these incredible healings quickly.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Mm-hmm.
- LHLewis Howes
And I witnessed it all the time from other people, and everyone was always like, "How is this possible?"
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
So I don't know if this is something I was practicing, you know-
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Right, right
- LHLewis Howes
... in a different, in a different way as a child. But it's, it's always fun for me to come back around now. Even though I don't practice that, that religion necessarily anymore or go to the church, I still believe the same-
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Sure
- LHLewis Howes
... fundamental principles that I hear you talking about in a, in a more scientific way.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
It's a good belief to have.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah. [laughs]
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And, and you, you program children, like-
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... you program your children that the body has an innate capacity to heal.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And, and all of a sudden, you're less reliant on something outside of you-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... to, to make something go away inside of you.
- LHLewis Howes
Meditation or something else. Yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Whatever it is. Shopping.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Video gaming. Everybody's relying on their outer world to-
- LHLewis Howes
Relationships. Yeah
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... relationship to change their inner state. Problem is, is the moment you start feeling emptiness or lack, your brain is gonna start to look for something outside of you-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... to take it away. The problem-
- LHLewis Howes
To fill the hole. Yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Right. The problem is, is that normally the stimulation that's created from those outer things, uh, give the body a rush. And so the receptor sites in the cells recalibrate, so you need more the next time to turn it on, right? So now-
- 35:10 – 39:46
Synchronicity, Thoughts vs. Feelings, and Creating from the Field
- LHLewis Howes
Do our... What's more powerful than our thoughts or our, our emotions? And do our emotions change our thoughts, or do our thoughts change our emotions?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah, the answer is yes. The answer is both. I mean, um, thoughts, uh, to me produce an electrical charge in the quantum field, and feelings produce a magnetic charge in the quantum field.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm. Thoughts, wait, thoughts produce a what?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
An electrical charge.
- LHLewis Howes
Okay.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And feelings produce a magnetic charge. And how you think and how you feel broadcasts an electromagnetic signature that influences every single atom in your life. The thought sends the signal out, now think about this, and the feeling draws the event back.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
So you could have the intent that you want wealth, you want health, you want success. That's your intent. That's your thought. But if you're waiting for the experience to happen to feel it, then you're not drawing the experience to you because you're not feeling the emotion, right? So then teaching people once again how to balance their thoughts and feelings, because you can, you can enter that cycle either place. Sometimes we do a meditation, we start opening our heart, we start elevating the body's energy, and then those emotions can drive certain thoughts of your future.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Other times, you open your awareness, you create brain coherence, you have the vision of your future, you begin to emotionally experience it, however you wanna jump on that cycle. Uh, and then sustain it, 'cause the longer you're conscious of that energy, the more you're drawing your future to you. So then most people spend their lives, right? They, we live in this realm called space time, three-dimensional reality, and you move your body through space. In three-dimensional reality, it takes time.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
So everything, all your goals, all your dreams, all your visions, you're gonna have to get your body up and drag it through space every day to pay off that, you know, that home that's in your future, right?
- LHLewis Howes
Right.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
When you create from the field instead of from matter, when there's a vibrational match between your energy and some potential, and your thoughts and feelings are coherent, now you are going to begin to collapse time and space, where the experience is gonna be drawn to you. Now, now you're the vortex to your destiny, and now you don't have to go anywhere to get it, 'cause you're not playing by the rules of three-dimensional reality. You're playing by the rules of energy in the quantum.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
So teaching people how to do this and getting better at it, then all of a sudden they're not forcing and controlling outcomes. In fact, they're trusting and surrendering to outcomes because they don't wanna get in the way. Because the moment you start trying to predict when it's gonna happen or how it's gonna happen, you're overlaying a known over a place where there should be an unknown, right? So teaching people how to do that means we have to lay down the very thing we used our whole life to get what we want for something greater to occur.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Right? And so that transcendental moment is something that we're working on demystifying, and, and you could be a gluten-free person, you could be a gluten-full person. You could drink wine, not drink wine.
- LHLewis Howes
Right.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
You could be rich, you could be poor, you could be any color, any shape, any size. In fact, you can't tell me you're too old to do this work. You can't tell me that. We got elders in this work that we, we show you their brain scans, and you'd be blown away. They, they, they know how to do it. You can't tell me you're too sick to do this work. We got people that have reversed stage four cancer numerous times, and, and yeah, it took a Herculean effort to do it, but they love themselves for it. You can't tell me that you're too out of shape or too overweight or too underweight. You can't... I've seen it all shapes and sizes. You can't even tell me that you had a brutal past. I have people that have had very, very dismal-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... pasts that are free, that are happy people. You can't even tell me you're n- you never meditated before. In fact, our [laughs] research shows that many people who have never meditated before have the most profound experiences, 'cause they're not trying to make anything happen.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
They're just following the instructions, right? And, and they don't have a habit of doing it. So, so we don't want to exclude anybody in the process. We want to include everybody. So it turns out that our events tend to draw a, a good portion of men because of the science.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm. Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Uh, we have a lot of children now that are, you know, teenagers that are coming, and people in their 20s. We have a great community of elders. We have, uh, you know, in our events sometimes 63 different cultures-
- LHLewis Howes
Wow
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... coming to, uh, uh, countries coming to our events of between 50 and, you know, 65.
- 39:46 – 42:08
Collective Coherence and Healing Others
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
So, so we wanna, we wanna make it so inclusive that community becomes the side effect.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Because, because with a community of like-minded, like, like, uh, like similar energy of, of people, uh, everybody understands. They get one another.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
You know, you, you... Communities tends to be the thing now that w- in terms of our, uh, social media and, and, uh, the feedback we're getting, everybody wants more community. Because you get a, you get 1,000 people in an audience, and their energy's synchronized, now you're talking of something so much bigger. We're actually gonna measure this. I just talked to a researcher yesterday. We're going to measure 1,000 people when they reach that synchronized moment when their, we can, we know that the entire social coherence in the room is orderly. Then if you're producing a ambient, coherent magnetic field in your heart, and you're tuning into a thought or an intent, and you got 1,000 people doing that, and your energy's gonna start interfering-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... and commingling with the persons next to you. When that energy starts to synchronize, it's gonna produce a bigger wave.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
The higher the amplitude, the higher the wave, the more energy there is. So now you have one mind and one heart. And now when it comes to healing others, and we've done the research on this now, and we're collecting the data, that we're teaching people how to administer a change in energy in the person that's laying there. Because it's not matter that emits a field. That's the wrong way to think about it. It's the field that creates matter. You change the field, you change matter.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
You're not, it's not your job to change the tumor.
- LHLewis Howes
Right.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
The tumor's the illusion. It's the pattern in the field that's, that, that has to be changed.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
So once people start reversing this, then you start seeing tumors disappearing. You start seeing blind people seeing, deaf people hearing. You start seeing people with Parkinson's disease switch on. I mean, you start seeing stage four cancers reversing, because now they're, you're, you're, you're swimming upstream. You're going to the headwaters and making that change. So pushing the envelope, and then seeing that in a community, when a community's synchronized towards the second half of a week-long event, I mean, as I said before we [laughs] started the show, I, I'm more surprised than, than anybody when we witness-
- LHLewis Howes
[laughs]
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... some of these things. It's crazy.
- LHLewis Howes
What is the...
- 42:08 – 47:19
Consciousness, Observing Your Thoughts, and Going from Somebody to Nobody
- LHLewis Howes
We talked about, I heard you say consciousness a couple of times. What's the difference between mindset and consciousness?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
To me, consciousness is awareness. Awareness is paying attention and noticing. And so 95% of who we are by the time we're 35 years old is a set of unconscious-
- LHLewis Howes
Oh
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... automatic programs that we've just practiced so many times that we're not consciously thinking about those. So in order for you to change, to answer the initial question that you asked- The first step is you gotta become conscious of your unconscious thoughts, and you gotta l- you gotta start looking at those hardwired thoughts that, that you think every day that are just circuits that have been fired and wired together.
- LHLewis Howes
How do we do that? Should we ju- write a list at the end of the day of what are the most common thoughts we had that day? Like, how does someone become aware of their thoughts?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
You don't have to do that. You just have to sit down, close your eyes, and not move, and then you'll get... You'll, you'll start seeing.
- LHLewis Howes
What am I thinking about right now? Yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah, and all you wanna do is observe the thought.
- LHLewis Howes
Uh-huh.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Because [laughs] when you begin to observe that thought, you're no longer the program now. You're the consciousness-
- LHLewis Howes
Uh-huh
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... observing the program, and you're starting to pull out of the program.
- LHLewis Howes
Thinking about the, thinking about the thinking.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah. Who's doing the thinking of the thinking-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... about the thinking?
- LHLewis Howes
[laughs]
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
That's who you are when you're not the program.
- LHLewis Howes
Right.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
That's awareness, right?
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah, yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
You gotta become aware of how you speak, how you act, become so conscious, so aware of it that you won't go unconscious and let that thought or that behavior run you. You gotta say, "Oh my God, this feeling that I've been living by for the last 20 years is actually guilt. I didn't know-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... it was guilt, 'cause it just feels like me." And all of a sudden, as you start becoming conscious of it, you're beginning to objectify your subjective self. You're, you're pulling out of those programs, and nobody likes to do that, 'cause it's uncomfortable. They'd rather turn on their cellphone, start texting, get on the internet, like, uh, you know, watch TV, to distract them from that moment.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And that is what they have to move through in order to get to their, to, to their own personal freedom. So the first step is becoming conscious. And m- meditation means to become familiar with, to become conscious of, to, to become so conscious of your unconscious self that you won't go unconscious to any thought, any-
- LHLewis Howes
Right
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... behavior or emotion. And get ready, because it takes a tr- tremendous amount of energy to do that, and awareness-
- LHLewis Howes
To stay conscious
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... to stay conscious.
- 47:19 – 51:49
Remote Coherence Healings and Plans for Children's Hospitals
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
As an example, we had Bond University, a, a, a university in Australia on the, on the Gold Coast, a senior researcher took the large majority of my brain scans, and they had, she had them analyzed by her graduate students, and they, they statistically looked at everything. One of the most startling things for the research team was our community's ability to go, to, to get to that point where they're nobody, no one, no thing-
- LHLewis Howes
Really?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... nowhere, no time. Now, I'm talking four seconds. I'm talking five seconds. I'm talking nine seconds. Just like, "Just give me a second. I know how to do this." They, they've practiced it enough times that the creative moment is when you get beyond yourself.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
When you dissociate from everything known in your material world. Turns out when you do that and you start changing your brainwaves, your brainwaves slow down into alpha and theta, you're suppressing the memory bank of the known self that keeps you plugged into three-dimensional reality.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
When you quiet down this mechanism, now all of a sudden you start connecting to that field. And when you can stay conscious in those subconscious realms, when you can literally regulate and change brainwaves, now you're in the operating system where you can make those significant changes. So we now know that when people apply the formula- And they do that properly now they're walking through that door where they're ready to create from. In other words, you can't create from the known.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
You can't create with your body. That's matter trying to change matter, and you can do it, it's just gonna take a long time.
- LHLewis Howes
Right.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
But when you create from the field instead of from matter, there's a whole different set of dynamics that takes place. And, and why not push that envelope to see, okay, if we've done this, we've done this, is it possible to do this? As an example, we do these wonderful healing circles where you see these dramatic, instantaneous changes. So the person who's healed themselves of some health condition, when it comes time to heal somebody else, that's ... They're gonna say, "Well, now I understand the science, I understand how this all works. I know how to get beyond myself. I know how to open my heart." They start piecing it all together. Let's take the formula to the next level. Now, they witness a significant change in a person's body in real time, right there. So then the next question is, okay, like this happened many times. As an example, the woman who was at the event in Mallorca, Spain, uh, her brother had a massive stroke, uh, in, uh, in Colombia, and she went back to Colombia, and he was in a coma for two weeks.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
She called up the healing circle and said, "Hey, can we do a healing on my brother?" Now, if you're playing by the rules of Newtonian physics, three-dimensional reality, you're gonna say, "Well, you need to be in front of the, the guy in order to heal him." But if you understand there's no separation in the quantum, that there's, everything's connected when you're-
- LHLewis Howes
Right
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... in that place. So wouldn't that be the next application of the formula? So they go over the science, they get it. Okay, we don't need, we just need a picture of him, and that's our coordinate. And if we're in the field-
- LHLewis Howes
You're sending a frequency to that coordinate.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah. But, but you're not sending it anywhere because there's nowhere to send.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
There's no space and time there.
- LHLewis Howes
You're connecting to it.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
You're connecting to it, exactly. That's a great, great way to say it. In one hour after that coherence healing, he comes back to consciousness.
- LHLewis Howes
Wow.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Now, that's the extension of where we're going. You see now, now, now we're progressing. A woman who was in one c- uh, who, uh, one coherence healing group is a pediatric nurse in, uh, in Children's Hospital in Seattle, and again, witnessed amazing miracle after our event in Toronto.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
She comes back and there's a little, they call them friends, there's a little guy failing. Doctors hit him with the paddles, they use all the, all the drugs to bring him back, and they walk out of the room, and they say, "We, we lost him." She walks over, puts her hands right in the field, and this kid comes right back online.
- LHLewis Howes
Wow.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Doctors are like, "What was that?" And now, so we have the ... A lot of our interest now is I wanna get 50%, one out of two people. We're collecting the data in this coherence healings. When we're 50%, we're gonna walk into a children's hospital, and we have three children's hospitals right now that are interested in us. We'll show them the data.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
We'll show them the results. We'll say, "We don't want any money. We'll never even touch the kids. All we wanna do is just change their lives." And when we're 50%, we're gonna start doing it in children's hospitals. And, and we're gathering the data right now.
- LHLewis Howes
That's pretty cool.
- 51:49 – 58:43
Family and Relationships for Mission-Driven People
- LHLewis Howes
Do you have kids?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
I do. I do.
- LHLewis Howes
You have kids. How old are your kids?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
My kids are, uh, in their 20s, yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
Okay.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah. Yeah, they're all older and on their way.
- LHLewis Howes
What do they think about this work?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Well, my oldest son, uh ... Well, first of all, my kids have grown up with this work.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
So you have to imagine, like, uh, my oldest son coming back to one of my advanced workshops three years ago, and my friend saying, "Hey, is this your first advanced workshop?" And he kinda glances over at him and says, "I've been in the advanced workshop-
- LHLewis Howes
Oh, wow
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... for 25 years."
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
"What are you talking about?" So my oldest son is one of my team leaders.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Uh, he's got a master's in engineering. He lives in, in Denver, uh, in Boulder, Colorado. And, uh, the, he's, uh, he's, he's passionate about the work. Uh, he met his fiancee at my, one of my workshops.
- LHLewis Howes
That's pretty cool.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Uh, and they're very, very similar. Uh, my daughter lives in London. Uh, uh, she's got her master's in art at the Royal College of Art.
- LHLewis Howes
Wow.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And she's probably the best creator I have ever met in my life.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
I mean, she's just wired. She knows how to do it. And my, my youngest son is, uh, goes, uh, is getting his degree in architecture, uh, at Cal Poly. And they're all at different stations, uh, in their understanding, but they understand the principles.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And, and I've always said to them, "You know, if you can figure this out early on, the rest of your life is gonna be magic, right?"
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
'Cause you know what to do. And, and they're pretty wired for it now. And, and I've really worked in setting up conditions, uh, in their lives, uh, so that they can apply, uh, these principles from an early age. And now that they're older, um, I think that, uh, they understand, uh, how to do it.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
I feel like a lot of people are unhappy in relationships.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah. Here's my theory.
- 58:43 – 1:10:22
Growth Challenges and Humanity's Next Decade
- LHLewis Howes
What do you think is gonna be your biggest challenge over the next decade?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Wow.
- LHLewis Howes
As we get, as we get into 2020, into 2030, what'll be your biggest personal challenge in the next 10 years?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Um, we are like a living organism. I mean, the company is just, our, our community is growing so large, I think our biggest challenge right now is finding venues-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... and, and, and the logistics to be able to go to the next level of, of being able to do it on a larger scale without losing the efficacy-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... but without-
- LHLewis Howes
The intimacy, the connection
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... the, yeah. I mean, uh, we, and we, we've done really great, Lewis, as a, as a culture in, into responding to the world's needs. And, and, and I mean, we, we hit challenges all the time, you know?
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And, and I was just telling my staff in a, in a meeting, "Look, um, we just can't keep doing things the same way. Uh, you can't ever do that again. It's just, it's not a time that-"
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... doing things the same way isn't work. So you gotta be able to grow. You gotta be able to learn.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
You gotta be able to k- stay contemporary with all the new technology and everything else. And you gotta keep-
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... bringing on a bigger team. I mean, I am nothing.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
I am nothing without my team, honestly. I mean, m- between my staff and my team leaders and, and our volunteers and the way we do things, um, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a living organism. Everybody, everybody counts. And, and for me, when I have a group of people where everybody leads, you know, you see those school-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... of fish-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm [laughs]
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... or the flock of birds all moving together, you study that phenomenon, you think that there's some leader that everybody's following. Turns out there is no leader.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Everybody's leading. It's a bottom-up phenomenon. So-
- LHLewis Howes
Wow
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... you get a, you get a really greased, uh, team that really is heart-centered, that really is, uh, has the intent for the greatest good. And it's not about them, it's about how they co-lead.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And my, I think that, uh, that, that helps me do one thing really well, and that is to focus on the people in the audience instead of everything else. So, uh, we've been growing, I think, for the last 15 years- ... or more. And, um, and I think just be- our biggest challenge is to be able to handle that growth.
- 1:10:22 – 1:14:26
Resources, Events, and Final Words
- LHLewis Howes
where can we connect with you and learn more?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Um, my website is just drjoedispenza.com. I think that's a good place to start.
- LHLewis Howes
Okay. You're doing more on social media finally.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
Which is good.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah, yeah. [laughs]
- LHLewis Howes
You're putting that content out there, so we can follow you there. We can go to your events. You do them once a month somewhere.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
Pretty much.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
No, we do week-long events. Our, our, our week-long events have just been my passion. You know, I'm, I've outgrown, you know, keynote, uh, presentations and conferences. I, I wanna be with doers. I don't, I don't wanna-
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... talk about history. I wanna make history.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
You know, that's me. So, um, so we do a week-long event, uh, once a, once a month, just about. And for people to come to a week-long, they have to do the online progressive-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... which is a weekend course, that they can do it in nine, you know, they, they can do it in nine, uh, weeks, or they can sit down and watch it in one week. It doesn't matter to me.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
But that's the preparation-
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah, to come
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... to practice.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
You gotta, you gotta get on the skis, and you gotta go down a few times before we start skiing, right?
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
So, so we've stopped doing the progressives, just because there's just not enough time for me to do them any longer. So, we, we'd offer them as an online course, and then, and then we have the week-longs. But, you know, I'm still doing conferences here and there, uh, around the world. Uh, but yeah, the, my passion is the week-longs.
- LHLewis Howes
You've got books. Do you have an app yet that teaches the meditations as well and stuff?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
You know, they're working on this great app right now. In fact, I have a meeting today, uh, when I drive back to Santa Barbara on, uh, on this app that we're creating.
- LHLewis Howes
Okay.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Because we have a great app that keeps everybody connected to the, when we're doing events, but we wanna have all the meditations on there.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
We wanna have all the s- uh, all the things that we do there.
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