Dr Joe Dispenza REWIRE Your THOUGHTS and Brain To HEAL Today!

Dr. Joe Dispenza 0:00 If our thoughts can make us sick, is it possible that my thoughts could make me well? Well, if that's the case, then, then I'm gonna have to manage my attention and I'm gonna have to inhibit that thought that has conditioned the body to subconsciously be the mind.

Lewis Howes 0:15 I think you gotta have a dream.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 0:16 The School of Greatness.

Lewis Howes 0:17 Really? [laughs] Yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 0:19 Please welcome Lewis Howes.

Lewis Howes 0:20 Welcome back, everyone, at School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest. We have the inspiring Dr. Joe Dispenza in the house. So good to see you again.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 0:28 Happy to see you, Lewis, as always.

Lewis Howes 0:29 Very, very excited. Um, I wanna start with one of your quotes because I think this is gonna be very pr- profound for a lot of people who have watched your content before, but also people who have never heard about you, which I feel like would be hard, uh, to see people who've never heard about you, at least on my channel. This is a quote of yours, "Just as thoughts are the language of the brain, feelings are the language of the body, and how you think and how you feel create a state of being. A state of being is when your mind and body are working together, so your present state of being is your genuine mind-body connection." I love this quote, and I see you talking about this a lot. I hear it in your meditations. This is in one of your books as well. And the thing that I want people to focus on today, a lot of people are feeling sick. They're feeling stressed, they're feeling overwhelmed, and their ph- their bodies and their minds are literally getting sicker and sicker. Specifically here in America, obesity is increasing, and it just feels like more and more people are on medications and are needing things to try to help them feel better in the moment. But I don't believe it's helping them get to the root of their pain and their sickness, and I don't think it's gonna help them extend their lifespan and also be healthier later in life.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:49 Yeah.

Lewis Howes 1:50 I went to your event last year and was blown away at what I witnessed in seven days of doing intensive conscious meditations that you were leading, and witnessing the healings that were happening within seven days of people who were unable to stand up straight and feeling pain throughout their entire body, people who were in wheelchairs who were able to have the strength to get out of them, people who were struggling seeing clearly and were blurry eyes that could now see clearer, and so many other incredible, what people might think miracles happening after seven days of following your practice, and the practice that you've been applying to yourself for a long time. And so I wanted to start with this context, 'cause I feel like people are sick and they want to heal. But why do you think so many people struggle to feeling whole and healing when there, there seems to be the answer to how to do it, but people continue to struggle with their health? Why do you think that is?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 2:58 Hmm. Um, well, there's a c- a lot of things to unpack there. We have three types of stress that we, we process in the physical body. We have physical stress. That's like trauma, accidents, injuries, falls, uh... And then you have chemical stress, like toxins or pesticides or pollutants or viruses or bacteria or hangovers or nu- uh, nutritional deficiencies. And, and then you have emotional stress, right? And emotional stress can be family tragedies, car accidents, uh, second mortgages, single parenting, 401 [k] s, you know, whatever that is. Uh, but each one of those things, physical, chemical, or emotional, uh, knock the body out of homeostasis, out of regulation, out of balance. The innate capacity of the body when it's not overstressed is that it wants to always return back and regulate. It wants to return back to homeostasis, it wants to return back to order. And that's kind of innate in us. That's an automatic process that's running through the autonomic nervous system. So we could say the job of the autonomic nervous system is to create balance and regulation and homeostasis, and it's automatic, right? And that part of the brain sits under the thinking neocortex, and it's called the chemical brain or the emotional brain or the limbic brain or the mammalian brain. And it has all of those functions that make blood sugar balance, hormone levels, um, digestive enzymes. It's, it's, it's, it's doing what it can to take the body and constantly repair it and regenerate it and move it back into balance. All of those stressors knock the brain and body out of balance, and the innate mechanism, the stress response, brings it back to balance. Well, it just makes sense. If you keep knocking it out of balance over and over again, uh, and you keep moving it out of homeostasis, that imbalance is gonna become the new balance, and now you're headed for disease because that autonomic, automatic system can't regulate order in the body. So a system then is compromised. The system breaks down. And so if it's, um, physical trauma, you know, your body can heal if you rest it. If it's chemical imbalance, you take your, uh, pharmaceuticals or you take your nutraceuticals, your vitamins, your minerals, your herbs. You intermittent fast. You, you do- eat a vegan diet. You do anything you can to get the body back so that it's using more energy for growth and repair. So for some people, digestion consumes more energy than an ac- the process makes, right? So-

Lewis Howes 5:36 Really

Dr. Joe Dispenza 5:37 ... they're in a state of constant, um, diminishing returns, right? So, uh, when the, when the autonomic nervous system's out of balance and the digestive system is perceiving that there's a threat and danger all the time, in the outer world the person's living in fear, it's not a time to digest, right? So that system is compromised, right? So, so then, so then they become very sensitized to the foods they consume because the response constantly from the environment is weakening the organism, right? So they're victim to the environment, so they're more susceptible. They'll have food allergies or whatever it is. So then the person then goes to a diet where they consume l- uh, less foods that require more energy to break down. So it's like taking a, a camel in the desert that's fallen and lifting all the packs off it, getting it back up, and then slowly adding the packs back on, right? So, so people do things to get the body back into chemical balance, and sometimes the, the re- refining or changing their diet in some way, and there's, you know, thousands of options for that, and you gotta feel good about it, and you gotta believe in it. Um, but the big factor is emotional stress.

Lewis Howes 6:43 Yes.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 6:43 And that's really, for the most part, 75 to 90% of every person that walks into a healthcare facility in the Western world walks in because of psychological or emotional stress.

Lewis Howes 6:55 Really?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 6:56 That's pretty much four out of five people. What's really causing their health condition is that they're emotionally stressed and emotionally out of balance. Okay? So what are the emotions that are connected to the stress hormones? It's anger, it's hatred, it's violence, it's frustration, it's competition, it's control, it's judgment, it's envy, it's jealousy, it's insecurity, it's fear, it's anxiety, it's worry, it's angst, it's, uh, hopelessness, it's powerlessness, it's guilt, it's shame, it's unworthiness. You know, uh, and psychology calls these normal human states of consciousness. These are altered states of consciousness. So our response to someone or something in, uh, in our environment or our response to our own thought and image of what could happen in the future, a memory of the past, could actually cause chemicals to be secreted from the brain-

Lewis Howes 7:50 It's crazy

Dr. Joe Dispenza 7:50 ... that causes the body to actually believe it's living in that same environment of fear or danger, right? So-

Lewis Howes 7:58 So what I'm hearing you say there, just so I'm correct, we can think a thought of our past memory, whether it's true or not what happened, and we-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 8:08 A memory. Exactly

Lewis Howes 8:08 ... a memory of something that we think happened. It may have happened. It may have been something that we continue to make up that happened, right? But a memory.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 8:17 50% of that is a lie, so yeah, more than likely.

Lewis Howes 8:20 50% of our memories are lies, right?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 8:21 Yeah. They're not the truth.

Lewis Howes 8:22 Right, right. Or they're, they're expanded into something else, right?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 8:25 They're embellished.

Lewis Howes 8:26 They're embellished. So we can think of a memory, a painful memory, and we can hold onto that thought, or we can think about something we're worried about in the future that hasn't happened, may never happen.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 8:34 We can pick, we could pick some worst-case scenario and obsess about it.

Lewis Howes 8:37 And we can obsess about it, and just the thought alone could create an emotion that could make us sick. Is that what I'm hearing?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 8:43 Yeah, because that thought, when you're seeing that thought in your mind or remembering that image, it's the image and the emotion. It's the thought and the feeling. It's the stimulus and response that's immediately conditioning the body into that state of imbalance. So it's a scientific fact that the long-term effects of the hormones of stress push the genetic buttons and create disease. If you can turn on that stress response just by thought alone, your thoughts are literally gonna make you sick, okay?

Lewis Howes 9:12 Crazy.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 9:12 So that's the greatest example of the mind-body connection. So the next fundamental question is, okay, if our thoughts can make us sick, is it possible that my thoughts could make me well? Well, if that's the case, then then I'm gonna have to manage my attention, and I'm gonna have to manage my energy because where I place my attention is where I place my energy, and I'm gonna have to inhibit that thought that has conditioned the body to subconsciously be the mind-

Lewis Howes 9:40 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 9:40 ... of that emotion.

Lewis Howes 9:41 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 9:41 And the body's so objective that it does not know the difference between the real-life experience that's creating that emotion and the emotion that person is fabricating by thought alone. To the body, it's exactly the same. So the body's believing it's being chased by a predator. The body's believing it's in an, an offensive situation where it has to attack. The body's believing it's constantly needing to be ready, and it's, it's constantly out of homeostasis.

Lewis Howes 10:06 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 10:06 It's constantly out of balance. It's in emergency. It's in fight or flight. It's a different system in the autonomic nervous system where you're stepping on the gas, where you're, you're mobilizing enormous amounts of energy for some threat, some danger, real or imagined, but that thought and the feeling, the image, the emotion, the stimulus response is conditioning the body to automatically be the mind of that emotion.

Lewis Howes 10:27 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 10:27 So then now the body becomes conditioned and addicted. Now, this gets to be a problem because people get addicted to their own thoughts, and they-

Lewis Howes 10:35 Mm-hmm. It becomes their personality, right?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 10:36 It is their identity, and they become addicted to the life they don't even like because their response to the coworker, to the boss, to the ex, is actually giving them a rush of energy, a rush of adrenaline, and they're, they're associating that rush of energy with some problem or condition in their life. And now come time to change and manage your attention and manage your emotion, it's no different than breaking addiction to anything.

Lewis Howes 11:00 Mm-hmm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 11:00 There's cravings.

Lewis Howes 11:02 Mm. [laughs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 11:02 The body, the body wants to return back to how it's been conditioned into the familiar past, into the known.

Lewis Howes 11:09 Even if it's uncomfortable, painful, and a horrific feeling, we... why do we go back into that feeling?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 11:15 Because we don't believe there's anything in the future.

Lewis Howes 11:18 Oh.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 11:18 If we knew that the best way to create a future really, uh, is to change your state of being, then, then you would have to manage your attention on that thought and have to say, "Is this thought actually the truth? And how long am I gonna keep thinking this thought and firing and wiring that circuit in the brain?" So there's biology because now it's an automatic program. It's a belief.

Lewis Howes 11:40 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 11:40 A belief is just a thought you keep thinking over and over again until it becomes subconscious or unconscious. So to change then is to become so conscious of that unconscious thought, that unconscious belief, that it wouldn't slip by your awareness unnoticed and checked. And now the body's in rehab-

Lewis Howes 11:54 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 11:54 ... because it's overdosed.

Lewis Howes 11:56 Mm, mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 11:56 It's, it's been on a bad trip, and the body which has been conditioned to be the mind is 95% of who we are, right, by the time we're in the middle of our life. So there's David and Goliath, and the body's just saying, "Look-

Lewis Howes 12:08 [laughs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 12:08 ... you think you've been making all your decisions your whole life. Actually, you haven't." The body has been making these decisions because it's the mind. So then the body says, "Okay, I-" Lewis, this is really good that you wanna be kind and compassionate

Lewis Howes 12:21 [laughs] But that's not how you've been for 30, 40 years

Dr. Joe Dispenza 12:23 That, so, so the body says, "Let me just send some thoughts or some memories of the past-

Lewis Howes 12:28 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 12:29 ... that are gonna just cause you to feel that emotion." So the f- the body starts saying to the mind, "You can't, it's too hard, you'll never change, this is too uncomfortable. I don't like this. Go back to make the same choice, do the same thing, create the same experience, feel the same emotion so that you can return back to the known." And that's how people seamlessly return back to that same identity.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 12:49 So back to the concept of health. Uh, physical balance, okay, let's talk about that. What do you wanna do? Uh, intermittent, uh, um, um, uh, uh, uh, interval training? Do you wanna do yoga? You wanna do, um, Pilates? Uh, you wanna do r- sprinting? Do you wanna do running? You wanna do weights? Whatever it is, get your body more physically balanced, and physical balance has to do with fle- uh, strength, flexibility, and endurance.

Lewis Howes 13:20 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 13:20 And get those three in balance, right? So, uh, you wanna do acupuncture, chiropractic, massage, uh, whatever it is that you wanna treat your body to to honor it in that way. Get it back into physical balance. And there's no doubt, in any, in any one of these areas, you're gonna have to stretch yourself outside of what you think you can do, 'cause that's the only way you're gonna change.

Lewis Howes 13:45 Yes.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 13:45 So just when you think you've had enough, then go a little bit more. Stretch yourself out that way, without hurting yourself-

Lewis Howes 13:51 Right

Dr. Joe Dispenza 13:51 ... but do it with intention, do it with assigning meaning to why you're doing that activity. Get the greatest value out of it. Works better when you do.

Lewis Howes 13:59 Yes.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 13:59 Don't resist it, get into it. Face off with whatever it is, the pain, the limitation, whatever, and just mark your progress and have it be something that you mindfully wanna improve on. Do that and your body will get stronger, get more flexible, and have more endurance, okay? So, um, take care of your body chemically, you know?

Lewis Howes 14:19 Mm-hmm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 14:19 Get a blood test.

Lewis Howes 14:20 Yes.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 14:20 I don't know. Do-

Lewis Howes 14:21 Right

Dr. Joe Dispenza 14:21 ... do what-

Lewis Howes 14:21 Right

Dr. Joe Dispenza 14:21 ... do whatever you need to do-

Lewis Howes 14:22 Right

Dr. Joe Dispenza 14:23 ... to get it chemically back into balance. If you're, if you're having these symptoms, uh, then you're gonna have to maybe start eliminating certain things and making different choices. That mean that stuff is bad? No. It means you're out of balance and it's bad for you.

Lewis Howes 14:35 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 14:36 And don't make it a thing, like you have to do it forever. Just understand why you're doing it. So take your nutrients and your vitamins and your minerals, and understand why you're taking those things, and do that with the intention.

Lewis Howes 14:47 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 14:48 Put meaning behind it, you'll get a greater outcome.

Lewis Howes 14:50 But it sounds like if you take care of the physical and you take care of the chemical, you still might feel or be sick if you don't take care of the emotional.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 14:59 That's exactly where I'm going.

Lewis Howes 15:00 [laughs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 15:01 So get those two in order. Get-

Lewis Howes 15:02 But you can do all the right things-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 15:04 That's exactly right

Lewis Howes 15:04 ... and still feel stressed, and still feel sick-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 15:06 No, listen

Lewis Howes 15:06 ... and still feel like my brain and my body is not working, and I feel exhausted and I feel drained-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 15:12 Right

Lewis Howes 15:12 ... right?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 15:12 Right, because your response to the environment and response to the, your own thoughts is weakening the organism. You're, you're squandering energy. Okay, so do alt, do all the physical things-

Lewis Howes 15:20 Yes

Dr. Joe Dispenza 15:20 ... do all the chemical things, but be controlling, rigid, judgemental, self-judgemental. You know, get really over-focused on your food and get really over-focused-

Lewis Howes 15:30 Uh-huh

Dr. Joe Dispenza 15:30 ... on everything, but you're controlling everything in your life and you're living in fear. None of this is going to make much of a difference until you get your body back into homeostasis and balance emotionally, right? So, so [laughs] why? Because the moment you return back to the same emotion, your body's so objective, it's believing it's living the same past experience.

Lewis Howes 15:52 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 15:52 And you will behave as if you're in the past, and you will think as if you're in the past, and you're literally living your life from the past.

Lewis Howes 15:59 Ugh.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 15:59 And that's the way it is. And so it takes crisis, it takes trauma, it takes disease, diagnosis, loss, betrayal, so, for people to finally go, "I've had enough," right? Why wait, you know? So you do the organic diet, you do the-

Lewis Howes 16:14 Right, right

Dr. Joe Dispenza 16:14 ... intermittent fasting, you do the vegan, you do the gluten-free, you do the keto, you t- you do your

Lewis Howes 16:20 Supplements, everything, yeah

Dr. Joe Dispenza 16:21 ... supplements and everything, but you're just controlling and rigid. You are going to take the signal to your cell, which is fear, and make organic fear proteins.

Lewis Howes 16:29 [laughs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 16:29 That's what you're gonna make.

Lewis Howes 16:31 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 16:32 And I have no... Listen, I take care of my body. I exercise, I eat well, I make great choices, but I know that if this component... And, and we have case histories of people that-

Lewis Howes 16:42 That's so true

Dr. Joe Dispenza 16:42 ... have healed themselves of ALS, of lupus, um, of cancer, uh, that complete reverse Parkinson's, complete reversal of their health condition. One person in one hour got bad news. In one hour, all of her symptoms came back.

Lewis Howes 17:03 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 17:03 She went right back to the same emotion, signaled the same gene. If the environment signals the gene according to epigenetics, and the end product of an experience in the environment is an emotion, then it makes sense then, as long as you feel that emotion, you're signaling the same gene and your body's believing it's living in the same environment. Seamlessly, you'll return back to the same health condition, 'cause you'll upregulate the genes and downregulate genes, and you'll move your body back out of balance. And in, as I said, seamlessly, the condition in one hour came back. She couldn't get out of her car. She said, "If I did it once, I can do it again." She just reversed the process and the second time she was able to do it again, and she learned that nobody or nothing is worth it, justified or not. It's, n- the only person we're hurting is ourselves, okay? So self-regulation, getting your autonomic nervous system back into balance and homeostasis, is going to require then breaking the addiction to those emotions, and those emotions that are driving certain behaviors and thoughts that cause a person in an instant to say, "I wanna be healthy, I wanna live for a long period of time," and then they go back to making the same choice because they return to the same emotion And now they're back in the past. And, and-

Lewis Howes 18:23 It's like you're fighting against what you really want, what you say you want-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 18:26 Right

Lewis Howes 18:27 ... by living in this past emotion.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 18:27 Because you've got 95% programmed working against 5% of your conscious mind that's saying, uh, "Okay, have the intention" And you could say, "I'm healthy, I'm wealthy, I'm immortal," whatever.

Lewis Howes 18:38 Abundant, yeah. It's like-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 18:39 Yeah, yeah. And your body's saying, "Dude, you're miserable."

Lewis Howes 18:41 [laughs] Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 18:42 Dude, that thought never makes it past the brain stem to the body-

Lewis Howes 18:45 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 18:45 ... because that's not consistent with the emotion of the body. Because we only accept, believe, and surrender to the thoughts equal to our emotional state. We never accept and believe or surrender to any thoughts that are not equal to our emotional state.

Lewis Howes 18:59 Wow. Can you, wait, can you say that one more time so people can fully understand that?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 19:02 We only accept, believe, and surrender to the thoughts that are equal to our emotional state. We'll never accept, believe, and surrender any thoughts that are not equal to your emotional state. So you could say, "I'm abundant, I'm eternal, I'll live forever. I'm healthy, I'm wealthy." And if you're programmed your body into that emotional state, it's going to say, "You, you're not that."

Lewis Howes 19:24 It doesn't believe it.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 19:25 "You're miserable."

Lewis Howes 19:25 It doesn't believe it.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 19:26 It only accepts the thoughts of suffering and misery because it's equal to that emotional state. [laughs]

Lewis Howes 19:31 [laughs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 19:31 So Ben, here's the fundamental question, okay? Take a person whose identity is resentment.

Lewis Howes 19:38 Yes.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 19:38 And their identity is anger and, and frustration and betrayal.

Lewis Howes 19:42 Uh-huh.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 19:43 And you ask them, "Why are you this way?" And they'll say, "I'm this way because of this event that happened to me 15 years ago." The stronger the emotion we feel from some event, the more altered we feel inside of us, the more that chemical continuity is disrupted from something that surprises us, that alters our state, the more the brain freezes a frame and takes a snapshot. That's called a memory, right? But the problem is that we think about that event over and over again after it happens. We're pro- producing the same chemistry in the brain and body as if the event was occurring. And so the body is conditioned re- literally into the past. So, [laughs] so if you think-

Lewis Howes 20:19 So we're living in the past, yes

Dr. Joe Dispenza 20:20 ... so a person says, so you say a person's resentful about everything. They're seeing their life through the lens of resentment and frustration and anger, and everything's upsetting them. Well, that's a self-fulfilling prophecy. You say, "Okay, now it's an addiction. You gotta change that." And the person goes, "Oh, okay, that makes sense." And now, now you gotta get out of the bleachers out on the playing field and say, "Okay, these emotions could literally have something to do with my health." Just saying, "If I stop feeling these emotions, what if I start feeling these emotions? Okay, what would be the emotions that would make me happy? These emotions are making me feel really bad. The memories are making me feel really bad. Can I remember a future? How would I feel if my future could happen?" I gotta trade those emotions for different emotions. Well, if I've been practicing feeling these emotions and I've conditioned my body and even mind, it's gonna take some time for me to start making different chemistry with the intention of making that chemistry, getting my body back into homeostasis and balance, work on my breath. When I breathe, I change my state. Practice breathing. Work with your body so it can start to relax so that it feels safe enough to feel something other than that again. And if it takes you three weeks, it would be worth it, right?

Lewis Howes 21:35 Oh, absolutely.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 21:37 So then person then starts, "Okay, I don't really know how to feel gratitude." Okay, well maybe start going out and giving, and give to people. I promise you, start giving, you'll start feeling grateful. And then start practicing feeling gratitude. Teach your body just for 15 minutes a day what it would like to feel gra- feel gratitude. What it would be like. And our data shows that you take someone, do that for four days three times a day, they make a immunoglobulin called immunoglobulin A. It's your body's natural flu shot. It's the greatest immune, immune, uh, chemical we have. 50% increase in, in the subjects we studied in four days. Immunoglobulin A up 50% in four days. Where is that chemistry coming from? They're not taking anything. It's coming from within them, right?

Lewis Howes 22:26 No supplements, no injections.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 22:27 Nothing.

Lewis Howes 22:28 No topicals.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 22:28 No, no, no. Just their body's, their-

Lewis Howes 22:30 Just a thought

Dr. Joe Dispenza 22:31 ... autonomic nervous system is manufacturing a pharmacy of chemicals that's causing an immunity to the body.

Lewis Howes 22:39 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 22:39 Right? So now the person practices feeling gratitude, okay? What is the emotional signature of gratitude? When you receive something or you just received something, when something wonderful happened to you or something wonderful is happening to you, you feel grateful.

Lewis Howes 22:52 Yes.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 22:52 So the emotional signature of gratitude is something just wonderful happened.

Lewis Howes 22:56 There it is.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 22:57 Or something, something is happening to you.

Lewis Howes 22:58 It's joyful. It's, yeah, exciting. Yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 22:59 But you're in a state of receivership.

Lewis Howes 23:00 Yes.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 23:01 You've just received something, right? So the emotional signature of gratitude is received, right? So now if you're in a state of gratitude, it makes total sense then you will accept, believe, and surrender the thoughts that are equal to that emotional state, and you could actually program your autonomic nervous system to make a pharmacy of chemicals that causes growth and repair to happen in the body.

Lewis Howes 23:22 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 23:22 And that's exactly what we're discovering. So then when people understand what they're doing and they understand why they're doing it, the how gets easier.

Lewis Howes 23:31 Hmm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 23:32 So you can assign meaning to the task and switch on the prefrontal cortex, and when you switch on that prefrontal cortex, it wants to get an outcome. It doesn't wanna mess around. It wants the outcome. You're doing it for the outcome, and that's kind of a strong intention and a change in energy or an emotional state, and that's changing your state of being.

Lewis Howes 23:51 Hmm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 23:51 And when you change your state of being like that every day, get ready, 'cause you're gonna start having synchronicities and opportunities-

Lewis Howes 23:57 [laughs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 23:57 ... and coincidences, and weird things start happening in your life to prove to you that you're actually the creator of your life instead of the victim of your life.

Lewis Howes 24:04 Absolutely. Gosh, there's so much I wanna unpack here. One of them is you mentioned something around 75 to 90% of people go into the doctor's office, and it's based on an emotional imbalance that probably causes or influences them to be there, right? They might feel physical pain, but it's based on an emotional state that they've been in for a long time-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 24:25 Mm-hmm

Lewis Howes 24:25 ... that gets-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 24:25 And a, and a host of bad choices-

Lewis Howes 24:27 A lot of things, yeah, yeah

Dr. Joe Dispenza 24:27 ... that may go with that.

Lewis Howes 24:28 But a lot of it is emotional-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 24:30 Mm-hmm

Lewis Howes 24:30 ... as a, a baseline.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 24:32 That's exactly correct

Lewis Howes 24:33 We talked about frequency, we talked about emotional signatures, and we talked about identity and personality. When I went to your advanced seven-day, uh, experience, when I went there, you had an entire, I don't know, probably a few-hour explanation about frequencies and energies. The highest level frequency where we could be at to allow us to feel more abundant and peaceful and, and, and have balance and harmony to lower level frequencies that are gonna cause us to feel more stress and anger and, you know, feel like we're in constant breakdown, right? And the higher the frequency we get to, the more conscious we are, the lower the frequency, the more unconscious we are. Essentially, I'm paraphrasing, you know, hours of research and science that you teach during this. What is the lowest level of emotion that will keep us stuck in a non-receivership, a non-abundant mentality and state, and a, and a place of pain versus the highest level of emotion that we could be in more frequently that'll allow us to feel more peace and in harmony in our health, but also in our life? What are those two opposite emotions?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 25:46 Hmm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 25:47 Okay. Um, I just wanna finish the last thought about physical, chemical, and emotional stress.

Lewis Howes 25:53 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 25:53 And then I wanna a-

Lewis Howes 25:54 Great

Dr. Joe Dispenza 25:54 ... and then I wanna answer that. So if you're truly interested then in sustaining homeostasis and ho- and balance, then you're going to have to self-regulate.

Lewis Howes 26:07 Yes.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 26:08 And, and it would be wonderful, and we're working, we have this new program called the Inner Health Coalition, because we've had so many doctors, so many researchers, so many healthcare providers come through our events, many of them heal themselves from all kinds of health conditions, from spinal cord injuries to stage four cancers, that really just want to really look to see how this model could actually fit in their clinic, and there's gotta be a different conversation-

Lewis Howes 26:33 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 26:33 ... that can happen around health. Because chronic health conditions are created from a lifestyle.

Lewis Howes 26:40 Mm-hmm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 26:41 And if you don't change your lifestyle, nothing is going to change, because nothing changes in our life until we change. So then, if then you would go to a practitioner where you could actually practice brain and heart coherence, which is our formula-

Lewis Howes 27:02 Mm-hmm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 27:02 ... get your brain feeling those elevated emotions, uh, uh, your... Sorry, get your heart feeling those elevated emotions, and then get your brain coherent and do the, do the exercises to get your brain and body back into regulation, into homeostasis. And then the key element is not that you react. I mean, who doesn't react? The question is-

Lewis Howes 27:23 You're perfect, Dr Joe. You never react, right? [laughs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 27:25 Yeah. [laughs] The, the, the question is, how long?

Lewis Howes 27:28 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 27:28 How long are you gonna do that for?

Lewis Howes 27:30 Yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 27:30 I mean, if you keep it going on, then it, there m- it must be an addiction, because an addiction is something you think you can't stop.

Lewis Howes 27:37 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 27:37 Or knowing something isn't good for you and you do it anyway. That's when you know you're addicted.

Lewis Howes 27:43 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 27:43 Right? So, so then t- get the patient to really work on the emotional states that are keeping them and their body in the past.

Lewis Howes 27:55 But it's so hard for people, I feel like, right?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 27:57 Yeah, because, because, because up until recently, there haven't been a whole lot of scientifically proven formulas-

Lewis Howes 28:05 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 28:05 ... or ways to teach people how to do that. People by nature wanna get over their emotional state. They've just been hypnotized, they've been programmed, they've been conditioned into using something outside of them to take away this feeling inside of them.

Lewis Howes 28:19 To numb the pain.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 28:20 Yeah, to, to... There's nothing wrong with this.

Lewis Howes 28:22 Distract, numb.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 28:22 But, but you could-

Lewis Howes 28:23 Yeah

Dr. Joe Dispenza 28:23 ... you could, you know, you could go watch a movie or, you know-

Lewis Howes 28:26 Mm-hmm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 28:26 ... you could do this, you can do that, you can do what you... Do all these different things. Go out to dinner, just, just to make the feeling away. But the problem is, the feeling always comes back.

Lewis Howes 28:35 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 28:35 And so now when the person reaches that point where they're saying, "Nothing's making this feeling go away," this is game time. This is where the person's not responding to texts any longer.

Lewis Howes 28:45 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 28:46 They're not wanting to go to dinner with the same people. They don't wanna do the same things. They don't watch the, wanna watch the same TV show. They don't wanna get on the computer any longer. This is, this feeling is disturbing them. Nothing's making it... No drug, no shopping spree, no, no sports car. No, nothing's making this feeling go away. This is a, this is a key moment, right? Because now the person's gonna start to realize that no one or nothing in their life is gonna make this feeling go away but them.

Lewis Howes 29:10 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 29:10 And this is the key moment. This is where the person really decides to change. This is the... Because they can see themselves for the first time because they no longer feel like themselves. They're no longer distracted by that. They can see how they think. They can notice how they've been acting and decide, "Oh my God, I don't wanna do that anymore." The choices they've made or the experiences they just wanna no longer do, and the feelings that they no longer wanna feel, right? And they start breaking their emotional agreements with everybody and everything in their life. And people really get worried because they're no longer predictable. They're not showing up as the memory of themselves, right? So what do you do? You medicate them. The person's depressed. You know, their midlife crisis. But really, it's the soul saying, um, "There's a future," and you may not know what it is, but you can't go back to that.

Lewis Howes 29:59 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 29:59 You can't, you just can't go back any longer. You can't. You already know you can predict everything that's gonna happen. Uh, you gotta start, you gotta start saying no or you gotta start looking deeper. You gotta start changing. And this is where, um, it's so important for people then to understand that this is not a bad thing. This is actually a good thing. It just doesn't feel good any longer because, [laughs] you're, you're ready to change, right? So this is what we should be naturally doing. So when the person says, "Oh my God, I wanna feel something else in my life than this. Okay, I'm gonna watch how I respond To my coworker. I'm gonna re-wa- watch how I respond to my own thoughts. When did I default today and return back to the old self? Um, um, and they get really serious about looking closely at how they can change the way they think, act, and feel. And we have so many testimonials of people that were, uh, diagnosed with chronic health conditions, and they got themselves, in their meditations, uh, back into elevated emotional states and, and changed their energy and changed their frequency. We'll get to that. Mm-hmm. Um, but then they get up from their meditation, and they spend the next 15 hours in, in, in fear and frustration and- Why is that, though? Because they went unconscious. They defaulted. So you got, gotta get so good at doing it with your eyes closed, you gotta start doing it with your eyes open. Oh, man. And that's the big game. That's the ga- That is the game. That's the, that is the game. That is the game, right? 'Cause this is the plane of demonstration. You gotta demonstrate now. So you gotta, you gotta start pr- That's why the walking meditations are so important in our work, 'cause you gotta walk as it. If you're gonna be relaxed in your heart and awake in your brain, you better do it with your eyes open, so let's practice with our eyes open. Let's go. Yes. There's no other way to do it. And you wanna get so good at it that you can do it in the most adverse situations. That's, you know when you own it, right? So, so then the person then realized that she had to watch her response to her ex. She had to watch her response to her bank account. She had to watch her response to the news. All of those things, she didn't... N- no drug, no surgery, no chemo, no radiation- Right ... no diet, no supplements were taking her health condition away until she realized, "I had to change," right? Right. So now she, she, she noticed doing her meditations, her pain levels went down. She noticed she was sleeping better. She noticed she had more energy, but her values for that health condition were still the same. And she said, "It's not that this doesn't work." They weren't, she wasn't doing her meditations any longer to heal. She was doing her meditations to change. Mm. And so then she'd say, "Okay, what do I wanna believe today? What thought do I wanna fire and wire in my brain? Let me remember it. I gotta keep remembering so I don't forget to think this way." And a belief is just a thought you keep thinking over and over again, so she wanna hardwire that in her brain. She wanted that to be a new voice in her head. Because thoughts that wire together- Fire together, wire together, right? Right. So then, how am I gonna behave? Closing your eyes and rehearsing how you're gonna be with your, your ex, and literally thinking, "There's gotta be another way to be. I can't respond the way I have responded. It's only weakening me. I've gotta change my state. Okay, I'm gonna be loving. Let me rehearse it." And mental rehearsal, when you keep doing it, rehearsing yourself in the scene- Mm ... planning your behaviors, your brain will look like you already did it. Mm. And i- if you keep doing it, it's gonna become more, more automatic. It's gonna become like a software program. So the brain looks like the experience has already happened, and now you have s- you have, you have hardware and software in place to use when you're with your ex, and because you installed it, right? Right. So now you're n- now you're doing the meditation to remind yourself who you no longer wanna be and remind yourself who you do wanna be. So now, okay, the person's now behaves that way, and now her response to her ex is different. Evolution that day, and the body's no longer brought back to the past. And she does it once, and she wants to do it again. She wants to get better at it, and she starts healing. And then she says, "I gotta stay in this emotional state." Mm-hmm. "I don't care who it is or what it is, let me close my eyes. I'm gonna feel this emotion 100 times if I have to, just so that I can feel it so many times that I can bring it up whenever I want." Now they're becoming familiar with the new state of being, right? And when you feel the emotion of your future before it happens, you'll always believe in that future. Wow. And if you feel the emotion that keeps you connecting to your past, you'll believe in your past, and that's just the way it is. And then you return back to the same self, your same biology, thinking the same thoughts, making the same choices, doing the same things, creating the same experiences, feeling the same emotions, and your biology, your neurocircuitry, your neurochemistry, your hormones, your gene expression all stays the same because you just returned back to the same. Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 34:29 Okay, so we said seven days, taking a group of people, this is what I said to the scientists at U- at University of California San Diego. Seven days. Biology stays the same, this, and they all agreed. I said, "Give people new information. Combine quantum physics with neuroscience, with neuroendocrinology, with psychoneuroimmunology, with epigenetics, with electromagnetism. Build models of understanding. Get people to learn new information. They're gonna have new thoughts. Now give them the, the instruction so they can make a new choice. They can do a new thing. They can create a new experience, so they can feel a new emotion. Will their biology change in seven days?" Lo and behold, the change way greater than we ever expected. Wow. Novice meditators, people who never came to a week-long event, never really meditated that much, the novice meditators, seven days, their biology at the end of seven days looked like they were living in a whole new life. And it wasn't, you know, 20% or 10%. It was the majority of the collective. Mm. Now, all of those people have different genomes, different genotypes, and they're all different cultures, different races, different ages. But when we look at the biology of gene expression, they're signaling the same genes. They're making the same proteins, the, the collective, the herd, the flock, um, the school of fish. Their biolo- The, the, there's an emergent biology that's changing collectively. The, the, the probability of that happening is, is, it's insanely, uh, insanely minimal. Let me just say that. So then think differently. Make a different choice. Do a different thing. Create a new experience. Feel a new emotion. Keep doing that. Your biology will change, and that's exactly how people heal. So the emotions that keep us, I would say, in our more limited animal, mammalian, human state have everything to do with anger and aggression, fear and anxiety, and suffering and pain and guilt and shame, and s- Yeah ... you know, our, um- Resentment ... resentment. All of those, those are your... Think of, uh, think as energy as emotion So those emotions, um, are, should, should ultimately be retired as wisdom because the memory without the emotional charge is wisdom, and now the game is over, and you're ready for a new experience, and you can't go to the future holding onto the emotion of the past, right? So you gotta overcome that emotional state. So then-

Lewis Howes 37:02 Wow

Dr. Joe Dispenza 37:02 ... you start feeling gratitude. You start feeling more gratitude. You start feeling love. You start feeling more love. You start feeling kindness. You start feeling care. You start feeling appreciation. You start feeling creative. You start feeling inspired. You practice feeling those emotions, and you get that heart of yours back into balance. We discovered that once energy makes it to the heart, it's going right to the brain, and it's gonna go straight up, and it's gonna tell the brain in that moment, the heart is the creative center. It's safe to create.

Lewis Howes 37:30 Ooh.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 37:30 And the person moves out of survival, and the brain, like, like grabbing a big sheet and going like that, creates a wave of energy right to the brain, coherent energy to the brain, and the brain goes into a creative alpha state, and the brain is getting information. The heart is informing the brain, "Think of something new. Think of a new possibility." It's a creative state, and the person starts seeing pictures and images. Well, keep sustaining that relaxed in your heart and awake in your brain. We s- see how long people can hang with that. We got the brain and heart hooked up together, and then here it comes. You start seeing resonance taking place. There's waves, riding waves, and faster waves building on waves. So delta, the base, is carrying theta, but it's a harmonic, and theta's carrying alpha, and alpha's carrying beta. Beta's carrying, uh, high beta, and high beta's going into gamma. And then when that occurs, the person is feeling ecstasy. There's an arousal-

Lewis Howes 38:27 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 38:27 ... an arousal taking place in the nervous system, but the arousal isn't fear. It's not fear.

Lewis Howes 38:31 Like the stressor.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 38:32 It's not fear. It's not anger. It's not pain. That's typically what creates an arousal. The arousal is ecstasy. So the person's feeling wholeness. They're feeling connected.

Lewis Howes 38:44 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 38:44 They're feeling aware. They're super conscious. The brain is no longer in just coherence. The brain is in resonance. There's waves carrying waves. There's harmonics. There's order within order. There's patterns within patterns, nested observer windows. The brain is functioning mathematically.

Lewis Howes 39:02 [sighs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 39:03 And so you see that happening, and you ask the person from their subjective experience, "How did that feel?" They say, "I felt so whole. I felt such bliss. I felt such connection. I felt such pure love. I no longer wanted anything. I no longer... I... It's impossible to want when you're in that state."

Lewis Howes 39:20 No desires for something la-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 39:22 You're, there's-

Lewis Howes 39:22 'Cause you're out of lack

Dr. Joe Dispenza 39:23 ... there's no, you're in wholeness, the, the exact opposite, and that's the place to create from.

Lewis Howes 39:26 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 39:27 Not from lack 'cause lack means I'm gonna wait for that thing to happen out there to take away the lack or separation from not having it.

Lewis Howes 39:34 Mm-hmm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 39:34 Right? This is like your body's believing it's already in that future, and that's exactly what we discovered at the end of seven days.

Lewis Howes 39:41 Hmm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 39:41 People move into that state, and they're, they're making thousands of metabolites. Information is in their blood at the end of seven days that wasn't there before, and they're not taking any exogenous substance. They're not changing their diet. It's coming from within them. So then the person who starts feeling wholeness, it gets very difficult to describe those emotions. It's ineffable. I mean, we ask people, "What, what was it?" And they just, they just well up in tears, and they say, "I don't know. It's the most familiar unfamiliar feeling I've ever had. Like I'm remembering what I forgot, like I forgot that I'm this. I'm... I am pure love. I am, I am this," you know? And I think when we have those experiences, at least when I've had those experiences, I think the takeaway is that it, it didn't come from out there, from anyone or anything. It came from within me. And I think that's the real fundamental moment where people stop looking outside of them. It's always been within them.

Lewis Howes 40:40 [sighs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 40:40 And that relationship that they develop, okay, yeah, we all take hard knocks during our lives, and we all have stressors in our life, and we're all trying to do as much as we can and s- you know, walk the tightrope. But, but a person who every single day says, um, "I'm not gonna get up from my meditation until I absolutely feel like I'm, I'm that person," man, it's a very different game because... And people say, "Why do you do your meditations in the morning?" I say, "'Cause if I can overcome me-

Lewis Howes 41:08 [laughs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 41:10 ... [laughs] the rest of my day is easy."

Lewis Howes 41:12 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 41:12 I mean,

Dr. Joe Dispenza 41:12 I can overcome anybody, right? So how long you gonna sit with you? That's one of the things in our week-long events, you know? I'm on the, I'm on the stage watching the whole thing. By the fourth day or so... First day, everybody's all over the place. Fourth day or so, everybody's like this. They're just sitting right there. They're paying complete attention. I say to them, "When have you sat with yourself this long where you actually like yourself?" They're all completely present, completely present. Their mind is not wandering anywhere because they've practiced for the last four days to catch that thought of the worst-case scenario and bring it back. That's a victory.

Lewis Howes 41:46 Yes.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 41:46 That's a victory. That's not you didn't do your meditation well. Catching yourself going unconscious and becoming conscious and disinvesting your attention and energy out of that predictable future back into the present moment is executing a will that's greater than that program. And that is a victory. That's not, oh, you didn't meditate. You're actually doing it right. Then all of a sudden, your mind defaults and it wanders to some past memory of a person or a thing or a circumstance, and you start feeling that emotion, and all of a sudden you start f- getting frustrated or impatient. And instead of getting up and saying, "I can't meditate," you notice that you're siphoning energy out of the present moment into the past. You settle your body out of, back down out of frustration, and you move back into the present moment. That's a victory.

Lewis Howes 42:27 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 42:28 And you're telling the body, "It's no longer the mind, that I'm the mind." Now, you didn't do your meditation wrong. You're actually doing it right. You're conditioning the body to a new mind. Keep doing that over and over again. Uh, David starts getting a hand on Goliath.

Lewis Howes 42:42 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 42:42 And it's uncomfortable, and it's tedious, and it takes energy, and it takes awareness, and you gotta hang in there. And the hardest part Of every war is the last battle, and just when you think you're done-

Lewis Howes 42:52 Oh, man

Dr. Joe Dispenza 42:53 ... you gotta go a little further.

Lewis Howes 42:54 Oh.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 42:54 And if I take people past that point, and there's a collective group of people, and they say, "I can't go any further," and they go a little further 'cause the person next to them is a sweet little woman in her 70s, and they're in 30 and buffed, and like, "I can't go. She, she's not gone, I'm not gone"

Lewis Howes 43:08 [laughs] Yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 43:09 And they go, and they go a little further, that's when the brain changes the most. 'Cause they just broke out, out of the known into the unknown, and nothing dangerous happened. Nothing scary happened. There was no threat. There was no danger. And people start relaxing more into the unknown. Turns out that's the perfect place to create from.

Lewis Howes 43:24 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 43:25 So the side effect of these higher states of consciousness, these greater frequencies or energies, is the outcome really of managing our attention and energy and inhibiting the thoughts that produce those hormones and those feelings, and no longer driving the body into a lower denominator. Sooner or later, you keep doing that, energy moves only in one direction, and it moves up. And it moves into the heart, and once it makes it to the heart, it's going right to the brain. And the person all of a sudden starts feeling relaxed and awake instead of stressed out, unconscious, and in a program. And so the idea then is to be able to get very good at doing that with your eyes open. So the practice of doing that, uh, i- in your daily life then is in l- living in a different state of being, independent of what's going on in your outer world. Thinking differently, acting differently, and feeling differently-

Lewis Howes 44:23 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 44:23 ... in the same reality until it changes.

Lewis Howes 44:26 Right. 'Cause most of us, it seems like, are awake but unconscious. And what I'm hearing you say is we've gotta practice having our eyes open and being conscious at the same time.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 44:36 Exactly. That's the whole purpose of doing the work.

Lewis Howes 44:38 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 44:38 Is that mean, you're doing the work so you don't default.

Lewis Howes 44:42 Uh-huh.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 44:42 The default is, is automatic. It's so quick.

Lewis Howes 44:45 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 44:45 You have one stray thought, one of-

Lewis Howes 44:46 Boom, back

Dr. Joe Dispenza 44:47 ... a response, and then you just lost, you just lost your state of being. And if you blame someone, and you say it's that person or that circumstance, I'm gonna say to you, "Uh-oh, you're back to that unconscious program of being a victim, thinking that that person or that circumstance is controlling how you feel and how you think. You're, you're, you're a consequence of that. You're..." A- and, and now sooner or later, how many times do you have to forget-

Lewis Howes 45:11 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 45:12 ... until you stop forgetting and start remembering? That's the moment of change. And, and, and breaking a habit is one thing, but breaking a habit of being yourself is another [laughs] thing.

Lewis Howes 45:22 [laughs]

Lewis Howes 45:22 Well, here's, here's the thing. Okay, I wanna unpack this for a second. For someone watching or listening who's thinking, "Okay, Dr. Joe, I'm sure you've had some challenges in your life, but you don't have the type of challenges I have. You don't have the childhood trauma that I faced. You don't have the, the parents who were just, you know, detached and didn't show love to me. You don't have the bullying that I went through. You don't have the financial burden that I'm faced with right now, and have been in debt for most of my life. You don't have the constant heartbreak I've felt from all these different relationships. I'm sure you've had some challenges, but I've really suffered. I've really gone through so much pain that I don't even believe I'm deserving of being healthy and well. Because all of my evidence from the past is showing that I'm unlovable, that people are gonna abandon me, abuse me, and the world is against me." How do you get people to understand that they are deserving of health and this, you know, state of love and gratitude when they continue, continue to convince themselves about the past and cannot see or believe in a future greater than their past?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 46:36 I'd ask them, "How long do you wanna tell that story?"

Lewis Howes 46:39 [laughs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 46:40 Like, I mean, how long do you wanna tell that story? Because you believe-

Lewis Howes 46:44 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 46:45 ... as if it's the truth. You behave as if it's the truth, and you've ul- ultimately become it. That's, that's, that's the end of that person's emotional belief. I just want them to tell a different story. In fact, you can't tell me any longer that you've had a brutal past, uh, and you can't do this work. You can't tell me that. We've had some people with some really brutal pasts.

Lewis Howes 47:10 Yes.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 47:11 Really, really difficult pasts, and, um, we're talking about abuse, molestation, uh, trauma, murder, uh, veterans, uh, Navy SEALs, people who've witnessed and seen really horrible things and had really horrible moments. And, um, they had all kinds of health conditions. Uh, the, the trauma wasn't just in their brain. The trauma was in their body because it was the emotion that kept them in the past, right? And they couldn't, couldn't get past that emotion. They tried everything. All the plant medicines, all the, you know, all the diets, everything. They, they just couldn't get past it. They just didn't know how to do it.

Lewis Howes 47:49 The memory. They couldn't get past the memory.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 47:50 They just didn't understand why they were there and what to do to help them to get out, right? So, so many of these people that had brutal pasts also had really difficult health challenges. They had endometriosis. They had depression. They had night terrors, suicidal tendencies, blackouts, vertigo, uh, o- ovarian cysts, you know, all kinds of crazy things. And they did the work because nothing else was, was working. And many of them came to the point where they did their meditation every single day. Every day, they never missed a day because nothing else was working. They believed that this could work. They just didn't believe it could work for them.

Lewis Howes 48:33 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 48:34 So they were doing their meditations to actually believe, right? They had to change their emotional state, and they reached a point, uh, among... Typically, when they come to the week longs, 'cause I stretch people a little further-

Lewis Howes 48:46 Wow

Dr. Joe Dispenza 48:46 ... they're already feeling a little better. They were already doing better, but they reached a point where they just thought, "Oh, my God, this is the worst feeling I've ever had in my life. I don't think I can go any further." And then they think, "Oh, my God, I've never missed a day In my, in, in my meditations. I can't, I can't give up on me now, and they go one more time. And the words that we hear over and over again is always the same. It's like my heart blew wide open. It was like my heart exploded. It was like my heart opened up all the way. I felt something move through my heart, and I felt more love than I had felt my entire life. And they look back at their entire past, and they don't wanna change one thing in their past 'cause it, the feeling that they have, they realize that they had to go through all of that to get to the present moment, and that's the moment the past no longer exists.

Lewis Howes 49:32 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 49:32 And they look at their betrayers, they look at their molesters, they look at the, uh, tyrants and, and they have nothing but compassion and love for them.

Lewis Howes 49:41 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 49:41 And the relationship changes with those people, and the moment their heart blows open, the body literally comes out of the past. Because when energy makes it to the heart, it resets the baseline in the brain and the autonomic nervous system for trauma. It says, "It's over," and the body literally moves out of the past, and the side effect of that, there goes the depression, there goes the endometriosis [laughs]

Lewis Howes 50:03 [laughs] Right

Dr. Joe Dispenza 50:04 ... there goes the night terrors. And, and the person would n- they, they don't wanna change anything in their past. They'll tell you, "I d- " No, no, no, no, no, no.

Lewis Howes 50:13 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 50:13 This all had to happen for me to change. So many people with-

Lewis Howes 50:18 Wow

Dr. Joe Dispenza 50:18 ... diseases will say, "I just didn't know it. I would have never changed. I would have never changed unless I had this health condition. I would have never changed. This was the push for me to change." Th- and they, they would say, um, I was too sick to do the meditation in the beginning, but you know what? There were days they felt really bad, and they could have said, "Mm, I don't feel like doing my meditation today," but guess what? They did it anyway, and they overcame their body a little bit more that day. And there were days they, they had a lot of self-doubt 'cause their condition was getting worse and their family was worried about them, and they could have said, "Ah, this is too much. I have too much doubt. I, I'm not, I can't do this." Guess what? They did it anyway, and they overcame their doubt a little bit more.

Lewis Howes 51:03 Yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 51:04 And there were days where they had a lot of fear because they were given the voodoo curse that they had six months to live or a year to live, and they could have said, "I, I have too much fear today, I can't do my meditation," but they did it anyway. Instead of surrendering to fear, they surrendered to love, and it was the overcoming process-

Lewis Howes 51:21 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 51:22 ... that was the becoming process, that is the unlearning process. And if 95% is how we're hardwired in terms of attitudes, beliefs, and perceptions, how we're habituated in terms of behaviors and actions, and how we're conditioned then to our emotional responses, then there's gonna take a lot of work in the overcoming process. 'Cause you gotta get so conscious that you don't go unconscious again, and then you... as a process of going unconscious to the point where you no longer go unconscious and you stay conscious. You ask that person, [laughs] "Where are the, where are the, where is the disease now? Where is it now?" They'll tell you, "It's in the old person. It's the old guy. It's the-

Lewis Howes 51:57 Right

Dr. Joe Dispenza 51:57 ... it's that person. It's that old person. It's not me. I'm not that victim anymore. I'm not that person anymore." And again, they were doing their meditations to change. They were doing their meditations three times a day not because they wanted their meditations to heal them, they just defaulted back to the old self and they started disbelieving again, again. So they were doing their meditations every day to believe.

Lewis Howes 52:18 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 52:18 And they would not get up until they felt the feeling of that future because they knew consciously, "If I could feel this emotion, I'm signaling genes ahead of the environment-

Lewis Howes 52:27 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 52:28 ... and I'm gonna keep feeling this feeling with the intention of signaling the gene." And they, that was their intention. Of course, they started producing a greater outcome. So they were doing their meditations to strengthen their belief three times a day because they lost their belief. Now, you can't say to me, "You're too out of shape," or, "You're too in shape," or, "You're too unhealthy," or, "You're too old," or, "You're too young." You, you saw we have people that are 12 years old or 10 years old-

Lewis Howes 52:53 Yes

Dr. Joe Dispenza 52:53 ... that come to our events.

Lewis Howes 52:55 Teens sitting around. Yeah, yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 52:55 Teens. We have hundreds of kids that come under the age of 25, you know, a huge youth community. We have people that are in their 90s and their 80s. They have elegant brain scans. [laughs] They have beautiful heart coherence. You can't tell me you're too old to do it. You know, you can't, you can't tell me you're too young. You, you can't tell me you're too sick. You can't tell me you're, you know, you're, you're, you had a brutal past or you're out of shape. You can't say any of those things any longer. I mean, no one's so special to be excluded-

Lewis Howes 53:23 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 53:23 ... from this process. And, and again, I think one of the things, uh, I'm, I'm jesting part of the time here, but one of the things that people need is knowledge and information. I mean, the data that we have in our scientific research just, it s- tells us that we're greater than we think, more powerful than we know, more unlimited than we ev- th- than we could ever dream. The testimonials of people standing on the stage, you've seen them, with stage four cancers that spread to their bones, to their liver, to their lungs, [laughs] to their pelvic organs. They couldn't walk they were in so much pain. No drug trial, no chemo, no radiation. No surgery was changing, no diet was changing them, and now they're up there with no evidence of cancer. You hear that story, it's the four-minute mile.

Lewis Howes 54:06 Yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 54:07 That is, evidence is the loudest voice.

Lewis Howes 54:09 Yes.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 54:09 And when you see a person that doesn't look vegan, doesn't look young-

Lewis Howes 54:13 [laughs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 54:13 ... doesn't look buffed, that had people steal money from them-

Lewis Howes 54:16 Right

Dr. Joe Dispenza 54:16 ... that they lost everything. They slit their wrists. They were h- horrible, went bankrupt. They're worth millions now, and they're living a happy life, and they've got a great relationship, and their health condition's all better. You gotta scratch your head, and you gotta look, and you gotta say, "Wow, if that person can do it-

Lewis Howes 54:34 [laughs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 54:35 ... mm, I think I can do it."

Lewis Howes 54:37 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 54:38 And then, and then there's, then there's number two, and then there's number three, and then there's number four.

Lewis Howes 54:41 Then there's thousands and thousands.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 54:43 And now, now, now all... We had seven people step out of wheelchairs in our last event in Denver. I couldn't believe it.

Lewis Howes 54:48 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 54:49 With spinal cord injuries, with brain tumors, with head trauma, with myasthenia gravis, with, um, MS, with ALS.

Lewis Howes 54:56 [laughs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 54:58 I mean, I mean, it's crazy. It just takes one and then, then a collective consciousness

Lewis Howes 55:04 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 55:04 Now it's possible, right?

Lewis Howes 55:06 It's fascinating. When I, you know, when I was at your event and we did the coherence healings towards the end, obviously, and once we practiced more of the, the meditations and, and understood the science and understood the research and you really dive in on it, and did the 3:00 AM, you know, five, six-hour meditations and all these different things we did, it's a beautiful thing to witness serving others who need healing with your consciousness collectively. It's incredible thing to witness and to feel the energy.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 55:37 Yeah, it's just... Yeah

Lewis Howes 55:38 It's not a, it's not a false fake energy. You're like, you're feeling like you're healing yourself as you're intending consciously to heal someone else.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 55:48 Yeah, which is, that happens... We just had somebody just on the stage just, that had, um, trigeminal neuralgia. Severe facial pain.

Lewis Howes 55:56 Oh, wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 55:57 She got on the stage and she said, "I wanted someone to cut my head off."

Lewis Howes 56:01 Oh, man.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 56:02 She said, "That's how bad the pain was. I could never get away from it." She said, "During that coherence healing, I, my heart blew wide open, I felt so much love." She said, "I have no pain in my face. I've, I've done every therapy, I've done every drug, I've taken everything, every narcotic, everything. It's never changed. I have no pain." Like, that instantaneous change in her health.

Lewis Howes 56:22 This is crazy.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 56:23 So, so when you see... I know this is insane. We had, we've had more than one person that had, uh, uh, vision problems all of a sudden start to see. We've had more than one person with hearing problems start to hear. Just, uh, just happened recently. It's not uncommon for people... We had a guy that lost his speech. Uh, uh, he couldn't talk. He's talking now. He's, he's, he's a happy guy. I've seen people with Parkinson's disease, with, with bilateral breast cancer. Uh, I've seen spinal cord injuries. I've seen all kinds of different health conditions, uh, in, in one, one, uh, or two or three coherence healings-

Lewis Howes 57:03 Unbelievable

Dr. Joe Dispenza 57:03 ... have a complete change.

Lewis Howes 57:04 It's incredible.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 57:05 And, and, and it's a really cool thing because people are never being touched. They're just, they're just, listen, changing information in the field, and it's not matter that's creating the field, it's the field that's creating matter.

Lewis Howes 57:18 Ah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 57:18 So if you change the information in the field, could you change the hologram in three-dimensional reality? And that's exactly what we teach.

Lewis Howes 57:25 Oh my gosh.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 57:25 And that's exactly what we start to see. The tumor's the illusion, it's the hologram, it's the information in the field. If you change the information in the field, can you change the destiny of matter?

Lewis Howes 57:34 Ah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 57:35 And when people start to understand it and they can piece it together and they've been practicing all week overcoming themselves... You have to do that.

Lewis Howes 57:42 Yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 57:43 If they practice all week opening their heart, they practice all week bringing heart coherence, now it's time to put it all together. But now this time, it's not about you. [laughs] It's not...

Lewis Howes 57:51 [laughs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 57:52 That's someone's mother down there.

Lewis Howes 57:53 Yes.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 57:53 That's someone's best friend, that's someone's kid. You know, that's someone's cousin, that's someone's uncle. That's s- somebody.

Lewis Howes 57:59 Yes.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 58:00 And, and I just ask them to actually show up, uh, and be the healer that they would want to be healed by.

Lewis Howes 58:06 Oh, it's a beautiful thing, man.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 58:06 And, and it's really cool.

Lewis Howes 58:07 I mean, you're just in the last 30 seconds using vocabulary and language and explaining things that some people might say, "What is this quantum field and 3D and hologram?" And that's kind of the tip of the iceberg for what you go into for these seven days. And you know, one of your quotes that I love is, "The quantum field responds not to what we want, it responds to who we are being." And when you or I am wanting to serve someone with so much love, when I fill my heart up and have brain-heart coherence with love and gratitude, healing vibration, and I s- spread that energy onto someone else, whether it's a stranger or someone I love, and they're in alignment with that, there is a vibration between the two.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 58:54 There's an exchange, yeah.

Lewis Howes 58:54 I'm getting chills just f- thinking about it now. There's a vibration, you said a, a waving of a sheet that connects in the middle, in the center is this power of love that is healing.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 59:05 Yeah.

Lewis Howes 59:06 It is a beautiful thing. And one of the things I wanted to ask you about, this, this frequency, this emotion, this love, is, is it possible to heal ourselves with our thoughts and with meditation alone? And is it possible to heal another with our thoughts, our love, our heart coherency alone, even if they don't respond to it and they're not doing it themselves? Is it possible to influence without them doing the work?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 59:40 Yeah. That's a really great question. Um, gosh, I, I, I, I think my belief, uh, in what's possible, uh, has changed dramatically in the last two years. I'm not the same person because of the things that I've witnessed.

Lewis Howes 59:53 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 59:53 I mean, I, I, I, I saw a person with muscular dystrophy that was in a wheelchair for 12 years. Uh, young guy. Uh, if you study muscular dystrophy, um, there's no, there's no, there's no cure. It's just-

Lewis Howes 1:00:06 No coming back

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:00:07 ... there's no coming back. And, um, it-

Lewis Howes 1:00:09 I think I saw this video, I think, yeah

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:00:10 ... yeah, they lit him up and he was out of his wheelchair. He's walking around in his life now. I mean, that, that... I mean, I can't go back to business as usual after I-

Lewis Howes 1:00:17 Right

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:00:17 ... I watched that, I wa- I watched that video 100 times. I just don't wanna forget what's possible.

Lewis Howes 1:00:21 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:00:22 Was on a, being interviewed for a documentary, and, uh, the, the interviewer, unbeknownst to me, I didn't know anything about it, said, "What about the woman in your work that grew her thyroid back?" And I was like, "What?" Like, "What are you talking about?" She said, "Yeah, she grew her thyroid back." I'm like, "What?"

Lewis Howes 1:00:37 [laughs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:00:38 I didn't know anything about it. Like, I'm like, "No." Like, she's like, "Yeah, yeah." She... We have the medical records and everything, and this woman grew her thyroid back.

Lewis Howes 1:00:45 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:00:45 Like, like, uh, it stretched me, you know? And so, okay, um, there's a lot that has to happen for us to make this journey, right? You get diagnosed with a health condition, and it's a terminal health condition or a chronic health condition, and you're compromised in some way and you're reliant on something to get you back into health and balance, and that's what- The conventional model isn't, but if it isn't working, mm, you gotta start looking. Some people just, they just, they shrink in, into mediocracy and they stay there.

Lewis Howes 1:01:16 Yes.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:01:16 Other people are bothered by it and they're gonna look for answers. Okay, so the person starts looking for answers. We had some lady that n- sh- someone... Amazon accidentally mailed [laughs] accidentally mailed my book, You Are the Placebo, to her house, and she didn't order it, and she just put it on the, on her coffee table. And, um, she had Parkinson's disease, and finally after, like, three months she picked up the book and she saw the brain scans on Parkinson's disease. She started doing the meditations. She came to the week-long retreat. She completely healed of Parkinson's.

Lewis Howes 1:01:45 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:01:45 She was on a stage telling the story. This is crazy, right? So, so now the person heals herself, okay? As an example. Now, a person who heals themselves, I've seen Green Berets, I've seen, uh, Navy SEALs, uh, with r- a, a lot of physical and e- and m- and emotional health conditions really heal. The only thing they wanna do is they wanna give. They wanna, they wanna, they wanna bring it to their people, they wanna bring it to their tribe, they wanna bring it to-

Lewis Howes 1:02:08 Yes

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:02:08 ... the people they love. And, and the n- the, the really in- the intention is, "I wanna heal somebody else," right? And so you, you're healed. You, the next thing is you wanna heal somebody else.

Lewis Howes 1:02:18 You wanna spread the word, yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:02:19 So now, s- but your model has to change.

Lewis Howes 1:02:20 Uh-huh.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:02:22 If I heal myself and I've actually changed my energy, can I, can I heal another person? And that's exactly what we do. We say, "Okay, now that you've n- changed your health, can you change another's health? Let's build a model of understanding and let's do that." And we did the model of understanding, and all of a sudden I see people stepping out of wheelchairs left and right, and people, blind people seeing, crazy things going on. A lot of remissions of diseases. I'm more surprised about that than anybody. COVID happens and then we're like, "Hmm, can we actually, if we're in the quantum field and there's no separation there, can we just hit a target? Just give us a picture, a coordinate, and we have remote coherence healers."

Lewis Howes 1:02:57 Yeah, which is fascinating, this whole-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:02:58 And these, these, these people do it... Listen.

Lewis Howes 1:03:01 It's crazy. [laughs] It's crazy.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:03:02 They do it, they do it every day.

Lewis Howes 1:03:05 They're machines.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:03:05 They do it. They never miss a day. They would never miss a day, and the reason they'd never miss a day is because they get so much out of it.

Lewis Howes 1:03:12 Mm-hmm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:03:13 And they're not doing it to he-

Lewis Howes 1:03:14 By trying to heal another, that they don't-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:03:15 They're not trying to heal another. They're actually healing another.

Lewis Howes 1:03:17 By healing another that is not even, that they don't even know.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:03:19 They don't even know and they're not even in the same room. They're spread across the world-

Lewis Howes 1:03:22 That's crazy

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:03:23 ... and they're hitting a target. They're hitting a target.

Lewis Howes 1:03:25 They see an image and they visualize-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:03:27 They just go-

Lewis Howes 1:03:27 ... that target

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:03:28 ... they go to the field.

Lewis Howes 1:03:28 Yes.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:03:29 And they hold that person in their heart, and they just, and they change their energy. So, so then the model builds more now. Now can you heal at a remote location? The answer is absolutely yes. In fact, our studies [laughs] with UC San Diego is insane. I m- I said to the scientist, "When in your life did you think you would be sitting, talking about the effects of remote coherence healings that are working as well as drugs?"

Lewis Howes 1:03:54 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:03:54 Hmm? When... Or better than drugs, actually. When have you ever thought you'd be talking about this? So our data suggests that it's real, right? We did a triple blind placebo study, and there's absolutely no doubt that these people are causing some profound effects. We just published another paper, paper about the mathematical synchronization of the heart-

Lewis Howes 1:04:12 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:04:12 ... of groups of people-

Lewis Howes 1:04:13 That's so cool

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:04:13 ... that collectively get together, how they synchronize. You know, there's... We published a paper, it's mathematical, it's real, right? It's a lot of science, but there's some effect that's happening in the people's hearts that are feeling the same amount of love. They're in training to a similar resonance, a similar frequency. Okay, so now they're, they, they did an amazing, amazing study, preliminary study on autistic children, okay? Now I'm telling you this because I want you to know that this isn't conjecture, this is reality. Uh, uh, boys, young boys, um, between the ages, I think, of six and 12, and these are problematic kids. They've done the physical therapy, the occupational therapy, the speech therapy, the inhibition therapy, the talk therapy. They've tried the nutrients, the vitamins, they've even, they tried everything, and th- they're not responding. They haven't changed much. They're, they're head bangers. Um, they're incontinent. They don't sleep. Uh, they're obsessive. Uh, they have outbursts. They have no sociability. They have no gross and fine motor skills. Their language is compromised. Now, we decided instead of doing, um, a, a sc- scientific analysis, we decided to have the best scientists take a look at their kids, and that's the parents, right?

Lewis Howes 1:05:23 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:05:23 So we, we did, we did... They know, parents know every single thing about that kid 'cause they have all their attention. They know every habit, they know every behavior, they know every obsession. Six weeks, two times a week, these kids at the end of six weeks, speaking in complete sentences, sleeping through the night, taking naps, walking themselves to school, using the toilet, no longer defecating or urinating in their bed. Um, hugging their parents when they come home. Asking for what they want. Jumping on the trampoline. S- being, uh, in a, in school plays. And, and the, and the [laughs] it's insane. It's in... The parents are overjoyed.

Lewis Howes 1:06:02 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:06:03 Their lives have changed dramatically because their kid is somehow changed. They're smiling, they're more engaging, right? They're not even in the room and they're producing these effects. So back to your question, this is an evolution. If you're, you, you never know what you'll think in differently until you have a new experience.

Lewis Howes 1:06:24 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:06:24 The new experience causes you to think of possibilities you had never thought of before, and there is an infinity. There's infinities. Because you and I are making known unknown possibilities by having a new experience, and we start thinking of other ways, and that's consciousness, and it's never-ending process of self-discovery. To answer the question, who am I, right?

Lewis Howes 1:06:42 Right. [laughs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:06:43 So, so, so then, so then what we discovered is that in our, in our c- data collection, that people that are the most desperate tend to be the, the, the less likely to respond because they're waiting for their healing to feel gratitude. They haven't realized that when they feel gratitude their healing begins.

Lewis Howes 1:07:05 Yes.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:07:05 Right? So that's not a problem. We just have to, we have to work with them to get them out of that state, and that's what I do when, you know, everybody's getting ready. I work with the Healees. Um, we noticed that people who actually are in the river of change, they are actually working on changing something about themselves, they receive that energy better. We noticed that when people are gra- grateful, super grateful to be there, they, that energy just hits them.

Lewis Howes 1:07:33 Yes.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:07:34 It hits them really big. So, but we also see that people that, that don't do the work, that it just, it's their moment. You know? It's just their moment.

Lewis Howes 1:07:43 Yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:07:43 They're... It's just their moment and they get lit up. And I've seen bodies contort, twist, and convulse, and turn red, and shake. I mean, I've, I've seen grown men scream at the top of their lungs.

Lewis Howes 1:07:53 [laughs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:07:54 That guy, that guy that lost his, lost his voice for two years that was ready to take his life.

Lewis Howes 1:07:58 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:07:59 They... He, he had one moment. He never was touched. The moment people walked in the room, he said, "I felt this ball of energy right in my heart," this guy, "in my throat." This guy's not a whales in space, woo, woo guy. He's a, he's a businessman. He just, he was just ready. And, and-

Lewis Howes 1:08:14 It's his moment

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:08:15 ... it was his moment. And, and then that he... I heard him yelling so loud 'cause the energy was so intense, and he was coming up off the ground. I was watching him. Then he'd fall back down and come up again. Nobody was touching him. They were all with their eyes closed, like they had no idea what was going on. 80% of his voice came back after that first intervention.

Lewis Howes 1:08:34 After the coherence healing?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:08:35 After, after the coherence, yeah.

Lewis Howes 1:08:37 Yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:08:37 He gets on the stage, tells his story. Of course, what do you think's gonna happen to the energy in the room? People are just gonna go more in, right?

Lewis Howes 1:08:44 Uh-huh.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:08:44 Their, now their belief is just, just elevated. The person that stands on the stage that, that no longer has a, um, stage four cancer, they tell their story. You know, they're no longer in a wheelchair. They're, you know, they're, they're, they're in a wheelchair for seven years. You know, like you, you, you shake your head and you're like, "I don't want people to forget that."

Lewis Howes 1:09:05 No.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:09:05 "I don't want them to for- I don't want them to go back to business as usual. I want them..." Once you know, you can't not know.

Lewis Howes 1:09:11 Absolutely.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:09:12 And you gotta keep... It's so much easier to forget this information than to remember it, 'cause it goes against the program, right?

Lewis Howes 1:09:17 It's so easy to forget if you're not practicing consistently. And one of the things that I've been doing for the last year, since I went to the advanced, uh, retreat was, you know, almost every mor- either in the morning or at night, I'm putting on one of your meditations. And even if I only feel like I have limited time, I'll at least put on a 10-minute morning or evening meditation. I think the one you did, like eight years ago or something, right? And there's so many new ones that Martha is always putting on. We did, we were in the sauna three nights ago, and she put a 30-minute meditation on in the sauna. And talk about elevated emotion, it was like a whole 'nother level of, "I'm in pain, but how do we not feel the pain?"

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:09:55 [laughs]

Lewis Howes 1:09:56 "How do we connect? Like how do we breathe?"

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:09:57 Something to do. It's something to do. [laughs]

Lewis Howes 1:09:58 It was 200, it's 200 degrees, and I was like, "Okay, Dr. Joe's speaking to me right now." Um, but the consistency of it has allowed me to continue to feel peace, gratitude, and love in my heart.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:10:10 Yeah.

Lewis Howes 1:10:11 Doesn't mean I don't have breakdowns or frustrations or, um, you know, things that I have to deal with.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:10:17 Mm-hmm.

Lewis Howes 1:10:18 And I notice when I do it less consistently, if there's times where I do it less and I react to things more, I feel more stuck. I feel more physical pain trapped inside of me.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:10:28 Because you, because you know the difference between... You're, you're living in a whole different state. You go back to that state and you can notice the difference greater.

Lewis Howes 1:10:33 Yes.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:10:33 Yes.

Lewis Howes 1:10:33 100%.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:10:34 Yeah.

Lewis Howes 1:10:34 And, um, and like you said towards the beginning, like once you know, you never wanna go back.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:10:39 Yeah.

Lewis Howes 1:10:39 You just wanna keep staying in this beautiful, elevated state of emotional peace, harmony, and coherence with thinking and feeling. And it's an incredible feeling. Um, I know people are probably taking a ton of notes, and there's so much they wanna take action on. You have a, uh, a walk that's happening soon, called Walk4The.world. We're gonna link all this up. I wanna link up the research paper. I wanna get people your meditations, because this is something I practice almost daily. I wanna get people your books. So we're gonna link all these things up. And can you tell us, before we wrap up, what this walk around the world is, how people can get involved? And also, if they can only do a couple of things each day, what can they do on a daily basis as a habit to help them improve their health? And also, what can we do with Walk4The.world?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:11:34 Yeah, okay. So I'll answer the first question. Three types of stress, physical, chemical, and emotional. Three types of balance, physical, chemical, and emotional. Get two out of those three in order, third one typically comes around. Get more emotionally balanced, more physically balanced, you're gonna be more chemically balanced.

Lewis Howes 1:11:48 Yes.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:11:48 Get more che- chemically balanced, more emotionally balanced, you're gonna be more physically balanced, right? But, but you have to do an inventory every day. Just, you have to ask yourself before you start your day, you know, what, what, what do I, what do I wanna bring to the world? Um, who do I wanna become? Let me become that person. Let me disconnect from my outer world. Let me close my eyes. Let me play some music, fill the space. Let me not eat anything, smell anything, taste anything. Let me not move around, experience anything, or feel anything. Let me make my inner world more real than my outer world. Let me remind myself of that 95%, the way I think, the way I act, the way I feel. Let me just get so conscious of those thoughts, if I can. I'll start tomorrow. It's too late. It's her fault. It's his fault. I don't, something wrong with me. Get really aware of how I speak, how I act. Do I complain? Do I blame? Do I make excluse- excuses? Do I feel sorry for myself? What emotions are my primary emotions? What's my default? Is it anxiety? Is it fear? Is it self-pity? Is it unworthiness? What is, what is it? Let's just get real about it. Okay. Great day. A great day would be not going there the whole day. And if I catch myself, I'm gonna catch myself and I'm not gonna say I failed, 'cause that's a program. I'm gonna say, "I caught myself. Okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna change it now." Let me remind myself the thoughts I do wanna think. Let me remember them so I don't forget them. Let me rehearse my behaviors in my mind so I can do it when I have the opportunity. I want a, I want a shot at this. I wanna evolve my life. I wanna evolve my experience. And how am I gonna feel today? That I, what do I, I wanna feel this feeling. Keep bringing it up until I can't forget it. Let me... And then don't get up.

Lewis Howes 1:13:14 Mm-hmm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:13:15 Do not get up until you feel that way.

Lewis Howes 1:13:16 Right. [laughs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:13:17 And if it takes you an hour, it'd be worth it.

Lewis Howes 1:13:19 Yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:13:19 And when it's the hardest- It matters the most

Lewis Howes 1:13:22 Yes

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:13:22 So that's a simple thing to do that anybody can do, and then, but it's the experiment. The experiment isn't like I'm doing good, or I did it right, or I succeeded, or God loves me, or none of that. It's doing it to see... The experiment is if I change the way I think, if I change the way I act, if I change the way I feel, will my life change? The answer should be yes, because if you're choosing to evolve your experience, your life should change, and that personality is how you think, how you act, and how you feel, and that personality is intimately connected to your personal reality

Lewis Howes 1:13:52 Oh, my gosh

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:13:53 And if you're not gonna change your personality, you're not [laughs] gonna change your personal reality. And most people try to create a new personal reality, has the same personality-

Lewis Howes 1:14:01 Right

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:14:01 ... it doesn't work. We gotta become somebody else. A simple, practical thing. People say this to me all the time, "I have this health goal. I have this wealth goal." And I say to them, "That health goal and that wealth goal, you're gonna have to go from this person to that person. The, you will never get to that goal until you change. You cannot." And when you make it about change, watch out.

Lewis Howes 1:14:21 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:14:21 Because the hardest part about change is not making the typical choice that you always make, and that's the process of discomfort, and you just gotta-

Lewis Howes 1:14:29 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:14:29 ... get good at being uncomfortable

Lewis Howes 1:14:31 Yes

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:14:31 You just gotta, you gotta be so good at being uncomfortable that you can sit there and actually regulate and change that really horrible state into something else

Lewis Howes 1:14:39 Absolutely

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:14:39 And so then if you keep doing that, your life should change. I mean-

Lewis Howes 1:14:43 Yeah

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:14:43 ... that's the way it should be

Lewis Howes 1:14:45 It's a constant practice

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:14:46 Constant

Lewis Howes 1:14:46 It's a constant practice-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:14:48 Constant

Lewis Howes 1:14:48 ... of being awake-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:14:49 And a, and remember

Lewis Howes 1:14:50 ... when you're awake [laughs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:14:50 Yeah

Lewis Howes 1:14:50 And remembering the future. I think I told you my friend Hummel the Poet has a tattoo right here that says, "Remember the future." After one of our first interviews-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:14:57 Yeah

Lewis Howes 1:14:57 ... he got that, and it constantly reminds him to not think about the past, and the pain, or the worry, the frustration from something that happened-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:15:05 Mm-hmm

Lewis Howes 1:15:05 ... but to remember his potential and step into that now

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:15:08 Yeah

Lewis Howes 1:15:09 Um, WalkForThe.World.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:15:11 Yeah

Lewis Howes 1:15:11 What is this and how can we get involved?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:15:14 Um, well, gosh, I don't know about you, but I think I know you well enough, um, just how the world is just seems really different, um, these days. And, um, I think that the world needs a change, and I think there's an energy that you and I have when we make up our mind to change. There's, it's an energy, and when you, when you make up your mind to change, you, you combine a clear intention with an elevated emotion.

Lewis Howes 1:15:37 Yes.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:15:37 And that's a powerful signature, uh, of energy in the field, and that's the moment your body starts responding to your mind, and you're giving your body a, an, a taste of the future emotionally, and you're changing your state of being. Keep that up and your life changes, right? Nothing changes until you change. Change your energy, change your life. Okay. The world can't change without you. The world can't change without me. The world can't change without anybody. And if we get enough people to change, you could actually change the world. So what if you had thousands of people from... We have 152 different countries registered right now-

Lewis Howes 1:16:11 It's crazy

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:16:12 ... for this Walk For The World on September 23rd. What if... You don't have to be, you don't have to do this work, you have never done walking meditation before, you show up, and you're gonna have to leave something behind.

Lewis Howes 1:16:24 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:16:25 Of something that you wanna see in the world, then you're gonna have to walk as that.

Lewis Howes 1:16:29 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:16:29 And you're gonna walk as that. Not only at, not only just for the walking meditation. At the end of that walk it just begins, 'cause you gotta be able to walk out into your life and show people what love does.

Lewis Howes 1:16:39 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:16:39 You gotta show them what greatness looks like. You gotta show them what nobility and character is. You gotta have an uncompromising will. You gotta be able to face adversity, and be able to be relaxed in your heart, and awaken your brain, and completely disagree, and be unintimidated by it. I mean, that's the new consciousness. And so there is an energy of change, and with that energy of change comes a new consciousness, and you get enough people together moving into a new state of being and conscious of a change in the world-

Lewis Howes 1:17:08 Wow

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:17:08 ... in some way. Thousands of people. We're at 50,000 people right now, and, uh, we have 2,000 plus groups, 2,100 groups organized around the world, uh, to do this walk

Lewis Howes 1:17:20 It's incredible

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:17:20 And so, um, I, I... It'll be one of many that we do, uh, but it is a walk for the world and, and we have to show up as that, whatever we wanna see as, as change in the world. So it'll be September 23rd. We're, we'll, we'll, we'll have the meditation, uh, available. You can go to the website, uh, and register. We recommend, um, um, registering. We'll send you the meditation. It'll be a big day. We're partnering with some organizations, and even if we just change the trajectory just two degrees from that cliff we're headed off of, we got a little bit more time.

Lewis Howes 1:17:53 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:17:53 We do it again, we're moving further away.

Lewis Howes 1:17:55 It's incredible

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:17:55 And, and I think, I think, uh, that collective networks of observers determine reality and the coming of a new consciousness. This emergent consciousness is not one person.

Lewis Howes 1:18:06 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:18:07 It's collective

Lewis Howes 1:18:07 100%

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:18:08 And, and we gotta... A- and then, and, and in emergent consciousness, the flock of birds, the school of fish, there's no leader. Everybody's leading.

Lewis Howes 1:18:15 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:18:16 Everybody's behaving the same way.

Lewis Howes 1:18:17 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:18:17 And the appearance of that collective, uh, group of organisms gives the appearance of a larger organism, and there's power in numbers. And so our idea is to peacefully make a difference, uh, in the world in some way and, and to practice being that change we wanna see.

Lewis Howes 1:18:34 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:18:34 And, and get caught up in the energy of it, uh, so that at the end of that walk you feel like there's hope again

Lewis Howes 1:18:39 Absolutely

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:18:40 And the world needs some hope

Lewis Howes 1:18:42 Big time.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:18:42 Yeah.

Lewis Howes 1:18:43 Uh, Dr Joe, I'm gonna link all this up. WalkForThe.World. Like you need to r- you know, walk at Walk For The World, but run to the website-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:18:51 [laughs]

Lewis Howes 1:18:52 ... for your advanced retreat because it is... It, if you can get there, and then you can go all in, which-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:19:00 Yeah

Lewis Howes 1:19:00 ... you saw me there. I was all in

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:19:01 Dude, you were all in

Lewis Howes 1:19:02 I was like, first one, like, let's go. Whatever you tell me to do, I'm all in. I'm doing the crazy screaming. Whatever it is, I'm in it

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:19:08 Yeah. But, but, but the great thing about you-

Lewis Howes 1:19:11 [laughs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:19:11 ... is that, but it, we discovered that if you go all in, you're gonna change

Lewis Howes 1:19:16 100%

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:19:16 We, we, we know that for a fact now

Lewis Howes 1:19:18 Yeah

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:19:18 You just, that means just show up

Lewis Howes 1:19:20 Yeah

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:19:20 And you're only as good as your last meditation-

Lewis Howes 1:19:23 You are

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:19:23 ... and then you let it go and you go again

Lewis Howes 1:19:25 You gotta-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:19:25 And that's it. You keep going

Lewis Howes 1:19:26 You gotta keep being consistent, but me and Martha did it. We loved it. I've recommended a bunch of people to go since then. They've loved it once they finally got in. Um, go there. If you get a chance, download- ... uh, your meditations. You've got a ton of meditations on your website. I listen to the morning and evening routine. If you feel like, eh, I don't wanna go too long right away, just, they're 10 minutes, 15 minutes each.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:19:48 Yeah, we have 15, like-

Lewis Howes 1:19:50 You got-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:19:50 ... 15 minutes, 30 minutes-

Lewis Howes 1:19:51 You got a-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:19:51 ... 20 minutes

Lewis Howes 1:19:52 ... you got so many long ones that are amazing.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:19:53 Long. We got hours, yeah.

Lewis Howes 1:19:55 But you can just get started with a 10-minute meditation, and the morning and evening, I think, I recommend everyone to get started with.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:20:00 For, for, for what we talked about-

Lewis Howes 1:20:01 Yes

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:20:01 ... morning and evening is, is really practical.

Lewis Howes 1:20:04 Yes.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:20:04 Um, but I really feel like knowledge is the precursor to experience. So it's important to understand what we're doing and why-

Lewis Howes 1:20:11 Yes

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:20:11 ... we're doing so the how gets easier. So gaining information about it helps to the meditation be more meaningful.

Lewis Howes 1:20:17 Absolutely.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:20:18 If you go in and, and you get it, and you don't really understand, read something that just helps you to remove conjecture-

Lewis Howes 1:20:24 Yes

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:20:24 ... doubt, superstition, dogma. I don't like any of that stuff.

Lewis Howes 1:20:27 Sure, sure.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:20:28 And so, so get a little, get a, get a little information to help you understand the what and the why.

Lewis Howes 1:20:32 Go, go through more information. You got a ton of the research papers up on your website as well. We'll have that linked up. Um, and if you guys, you know, leave a, a comment on the biggest takeaway from today's episode. I know there's gonna be tons of notes and comments, but the biggest takeaway for you, what resonated, what stood out? Share this with a friend you think would help them as well. And, uh, Dr. Joe, I'm, I'm just so grateful for you for, I, I don't know how many times I've had you on, but I think I was looking at earlier today, our interviews have over 40 million views.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:21:01 Wow.

Lewis Howes 1:21:02 Just on YouTube alone.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:21:03 Wow.

Lewis Howes 1:21:03 That's not just the audio. It's probably even more, way more. And, you know, I love when we come together. I love this type of information. I'm always learning. You're w- well advanced more than I am, and I'm constantly-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:21:15 [laughs] No pressure

Lewis Howes 1:21:15 ... just trying to, just trying to grasp onto some of your information a- and apply it because every time I apply your content and do the work, I get better results. I feel better about my life. I feel more peace and more harmony. And, you know, if I can share that with others to help them get more of that, then that's exciting for me.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:21:34 Yeah.

Lewis Howes 1:21:34 So I appreciate you. I know people want more of you. They can follow you on social media. They can go to the events. He will be back on soon, so make sure you're here-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:21:45 [laughs]

Lewis Howes 1:21:45 ... for another interview. We're gonna talk about some more amazing things. Dr. Joe, thanks so much.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:21:49 Thanks so much.

Lewis Howes 1:21:50 As always, for being here, brother.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:21:50 I appreciate it. Who controls the information? The right information controls reality, and so my job, my interest, is to give people the information to empower them to be the creator of their life and not be stuck in the program that they need someone or something or to make them happy or to change their state. I mean, people are doing it all the time now, and that's just who we are as human beings, right?