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Lewis Howes"I AM WEALTHY" - 3 Steps To Manifest MONEY, SUCCESS & HAPPINESS! | Ken Honda & Lewis Howes
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90 min read · 17,981 words- 0:00 – 3:11
Affirmations and Early Money Memories
- KHKen Honda
If you can control this greed in you, uh, that I need to have more.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- KHKen Honda
It's almost like you're brainwashed by-
- LHLewis Howes
I think you gotta have a dream.
- SPSpeaker
The School of Greatness.
- LHLewis Howes
[laughs] Yeah.
- SPSpeaker
Please welcome Lewis Howes.
- LHLewis Howes
Do you have a, an affirmation that you can give people, or that we could work on together to support people whenever they feel stress around money-
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm
- LHLewis Howes
... that they can say this affirmation that will give them more peace. Do you have anything?
- KHKen Honda
Uh, yeah, something like, "Money is love. Money is my friend. Money can help me achieve my dreams." So whatever positive affirmations you can come up with, I think anything is good. But I think, uh, "Money is my best friend," is a good affirmation. When you worry about money, uh, I, I say, I would say, "Money is love." So when you think in my head money is love, instead of money is a scary person-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm
- KHKen Honda
... I think, uh, you feel, uh, a lot less stress.
- LHLewis Howes
But how does someone, if they've lived in stress around money for-
- KHKen Honda
Mm
- LHLewis Howes
... their whole life.
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm.
- LHLewis Howes
Their entire life they've been afraid, how can they start to use that affirmation, and how long will it take for them to start to believe it, to feel it?
- KHKen Honda
So I think you have to, um, think back, look back on your relationship with money-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm
- KHKen Honda
... since you were five or six. We wake up to the reality of the world when we're around five, six, seven. I used to be a volunteer at my, uh, daughter's, uh, kindergarten.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- KHKen Honda
And, uh, I ask, uh, one of the, uh, one of the boys at the kindergarten, "And, uh, what are you gonna get for Christmas?" And he said, "No, Santa Claus is not coming." And I thought, "Oh, why? Why is that?" And he said, "Because my, my hou- my parents are poor." [laughs]
- LHLewis Howes
Interesting.
- KHKen Honda
"Oh, really? Who told you that?" And he said, "My mom." [laughs]
- LHLewis Howes
Wow.
- KHKen Honda
So, like we are waking up to the reality when we are small, and then since then we've had so many negative messages around money. So, uh, I have a fun collection of saying, uh, when I visited, uh, uh, Europe la- uh, few, few weeks ago. There's, uh, uh, uh, the, all the sayings that, uh, we're told since we are five or six, "Money they don't go- grow on trees," in America, right?
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- KHKen Honda
If you don't have money, you don't have a head. You know, that's a scary thing.
- LHLewis Howes
Sure.
- 3:11 – 9:17
Money Taboos in Japan, America and Couples
- LHLewis Howes
And, and you grew up in Japan, is that right?
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm.
- LHLewis Howes
And so in Japan, are people just as anxious and stressed about money as they are-
- KHKen Honda
[laughs]
- LHLewis Howes
... in America, or is there a different belief around it?
- KHKen Honda
Yes. We have a different kind of stress.
- LHLewis Howes
[laughs]
- KHKen Honda
You know, because it's so interesting. In North America when, uh, say your college buddies, right? After 20 years of, uh, um, graduation, you bump into one another and you don't, you don't ask each other, how much do you make a year, right?
- LHLewis Howes
Not in, in US, no.
- KHKen Honda
No, right? And in Japan, we, we casually talk about it.
- LHLewis Howes
You talk about how much you make?
- KHKen Honda
Yes.
- LHLewis Howes
Really?
- KHKen Honda
But in North America, I think you're gonna lose a friend-
- LHLewis Howes
Right
- KHKen Honda
... if you bring that, uh, question.
- LHLewis Howes
Why do you, in Japan, do people in the culture talk about money and how much someone makes-
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm
- LHLewis Howes
... more frequently?
- KHKen Honda
Because I think, uh, how much you make is not as tied up with how much, uh, uh, how much your worth is. But in North America, it seems culturally, it's not- not- nothing wrong, but how much you have or how much you make equals how much you're worth.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- KHKen Honda
So it's more a taboo here. But it's, what's, it's interesting is like when you grab your Japanese, uh, uh, you know, friend and then ask him how mu- how many times you have sex, he's gonna freak out. [laughs]
- LHLewis Howes
[laughs] Right.
- KHKen Honda
So.
- LHLewis Howes
But in America, people might talk about it more.
- KHKen Honda
Right. They will probably, you know-
- LHLewis Howes
Brag about it or something
- KHKen Honda
... enjoy talking about it, right? So I think there is a different kind of taboos.
- LHLewis Howes
That's interesting.
- KHKen Honda
Which I really enjoy so much.
- 9:17 – 15:13
Greed, Enough, and Invisible Assets
- LHLewis Howes
I'm curious, what do you think are some of the beliefs that hold people back from keeping them to create the wealth-
- KHKen Honda
Mm
- LHLewis Howes
... that they wanna have-
- KHKen Honda
Mm
- LHLewis Howes
... from making more money? What are some of those beliefs that says, "I'm not able to do this because..."
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm.
- LHLewis Howes
Why?
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm. Because we feel so unworthy for the abundance.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- KHKen Honda
So, uh, uh, it doesn't really matter how much money you make or how much money you have. After paying all the bills, you don't have much money left.
- LHLewis Howes
[laughs] Taxes, bills, everything, yeah.
- KHKen Honda
Right. If you pay, uh, if you make, uh, $30,000 or $100,000 or $1 million, because the cost is going higher, if you-
- LHLewis Howes
Your lifestyle, yes.
- KHKen Honda
Right, and, and you used to have one car, secondhand car, now you, you need Tesla, you know? [laughs] And, uh, you need second home and third home. So you really have to, uh, see, uh, how to satisfy with yourself with less.
- LHLewis Howes
Yes.
- KHKen Honda
And at the same time, um, you can have more, so you can, you can have more than necessary, but, uh, um, the food prices are going up, and the gas prices are going up, so we almost like drowning in the sea of bills.
- LHLewis Howes
Yes.
- KHKen Honda
And then [laughs] they're just, you know, g- going up, and then we are drowning in the, in that.
- LHLewis Howes
Right.
- KHKen Honda
So instead of feeling that or overwhelmed by the bills, you can be creative and come up with the ideas that you can contribute to the world. So by doing more contribution, you get more money.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- KHKen Honda
So if you are more creative about, uh, serving the world, serving other people with your gifts, with who you are, you can create the flow of happy money, and as a result, you can receive more money. And if you can control this greed in you, uh, that I need to have more-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm
- KHKen Honda
... it's almost like you're brainwashed by marketing techniques.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- KHKen Honda
And, uh, even though you are wealthy, you keep complaining about, um, how much you don't have. Once I had an interview with a, a own- a private jet owner, and I thought, "You are such a big success," and he said, "No, no, no, I'm just a small thing because, uh, my, when I pull over to this, uh, special in the terminal-"
- LHLewis Howes
There's a bigger jet. [laughs]
- KHKen Honda
"There's a lot bigger jets, and mine is so small, you know? It seats only six people, so I feel so small when I pull over with my Mercedes because there are just, uh, Rolls-Royce and all the big cars, and then I feel so small." So you have to ask yourself, when is enough? How much is enough? That's when I, uh, my Zen, uh, teaching comes in.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- KHKen Honda
You have to know who you are, and you have to know the, uh, right money container size. I think we're born with a certain money container size.
- 15:13 – 18:06
Honda's Year Living on American Generosity
- KHKen Honda
Yes, yes. And talking about, uh, inv- invisible assets and generosity, I so want to apprec- show my appreciation to American people. Uh, 30 years ago, um, uh, 30-some years ago, I was 19.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- KHKen Honda
And, uh, I made up my mind to explore this kindness factor in North America. And, uh, I came here with n- without much money, and, um, I tried to have a, a one-year experiment
- LHLewis Howes
Really?
- KHKen Honda
... depending on generosity of American people.
- LHLewis Howes
When you were 19?
- KHKen Honda
Yes. And I bump into, like say, uh, an old man in, in, in the park, and then I ask him, uh, uh, "Is there any restaurant that I can eat for..." At, at the very, very, you know, no money. And he said, "Okay, I'll take you there." And they pay for my dinner.
- LHLewis Howes
Wow.
- KHKen Honda
"And, uh, if you don't have any place, uh, why don't you stay with me?" So for whole year in 1987, I depended on p- American people's generosity, and after one year, I had the same amount of bank account, uh, m- money, and then I could go back.
- LHLewis Howes
Wow.
- KHKen Honda
And I've been writing, you know, my, uh, my experiences I've got, and it's, uh, National Bethel as well. So, uh, America is s- so generous, and I think people may not feel if, because you're living here. So I really, uh, believe in American people's generosity and openness. Uh, some people just let me stay as long as they, uh, as long as I wanted.
- LHLewis Howes
Wow.
- KHKen Honda
Yeah, so I, um, I, I still, uh, feel like I, I, I owe America a lot.
- LHLewis Howes
That's beautiful. How many people helped you in that year?
- KHKen Honda
I think probably at least 16 or, uh, or 20 people.
- LHLewis Howes
That either paid for something or let you stay at their place, or-
- KHKen Honda
Yes
- LHLewis Howes
... helped you in some way?
- KHKen Honda
Yeah. So whenever I bump into an American, young people, like, "Okay, I'll buy you l- lunch and dinner."
- LHLewis Howes
[laughs]
- KHKen Honda
In Thailand, they are bumping-
- LHLewis Howes
Sure
- KHKen Honda
... into American tourists, you know, like backpackers, and, "Okay, I'm gonna pay your, uh, lunch," because somebody else, an American-
- LHLewis Howes
Wow, man
- KHKen Honda
... just, uh, they, they pay mine.
- LHLewis Howes
That's beautiful.
- KHKen Honda
So I try to pick up, uh, uh, the tab, uh, for Americans especially.
- LHLewis Howes
That's interesting, because when I was in my early 20s struggling financially
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm
- LHLewis Howes
... I was reaching out on LinkedIn to, uh, business leaders, mentors that I thought could help me.
- 18:06 – 22:24
Money Container Size and Dying with Zero
- LHLewis Howes
So I wanna ask you about the money container
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm
- LHLewis Howes
... size, which I think is interesting. Do you feel like we're all born with a certain size of a container?
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm
- LHLewis Howes
For how much money we should be able to bring in, or does the container expand and grow based on our environments-
- KHKen Honda
Yes
- LHLewis Howes
... on our, who we grow up with-
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm
- LHLewis Howes
... our wisdom. Can you talk about that?
- KHKen Honda
Of course, of course. Like, uh, say, like some scholars, you know, who are not interested in money at all, they focus on their research and what they can, uh, do academically. So their, um, money container is small, but they're okay.
- LHLewis Howes
Right.
- KHKen Honda
And I call them, uh, money indifferent type, by the way.
- LHLewis Howes
Money different?
- KHKen Honda
Money indifferent type.
- LHLewis Howes
Money indifferent.
- KHKen Honda
They have no interest.
- LHLewis Howes
They don't care about money.
- KHKen Honda
Yes. And, uh-
- LHLewis Howes
Just enough to provide for their food-
- KHKen Honda
Yes
- LHLewis Howes
... and their house and-
- KHKen Honda
Yeah, so, so some, uh, government workers, like politicians or nurses, I see them among, you know, uh, those occupation who are giver, who are just service people, right? And like a, some military people-
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah
- KHKen Honda
... who are really into service.
- LHLewis Howes
Right.
- KHKen Honda
And then they don't really care, uh, how much they have, as long as they can-
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah
- KHKen Honda
... you know, make a living.
- LHLewis Howes
Right. Right.
- KHKen Honda
So, so those people are born with small ones. And of course, by learning about business and investment, you can make the, your, uh, money container bigger.
- 22:24 – 25:06
Money EQ: Makers, Spenders, Savers and Worriers
- LHLewis Howes
Why do you think people are so greedy to want to make more money, and they have this greed inside of them to have, to accumulate, to attract more? Why do you think that is? And what's the difference between wanting to make more money for a good reason-
- KHKen Honda
Uh-huh
- LHLewis Howes
... and wanting to make more money-
- KHKen Honda
[laughs]
- LHLewis Howes
... because of greed?
- KHKen Honda
Right. Lewis, you keep asking me so many great questions.
- LHLewis Howes
[laughs]
- KHKen Honda
I'm so enjoying the interview.
- LHLewis Howes
Thank you.
- KHKen Honda
Yeah, I just wanted to appreciate.
- LHLewis Howes
Thank you.
- KHKen Honda
So, um, there are many ways to react to financial situation. I have, uh, taught about money EQ.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- KHKen Honda
So, um, when we're, um... I realized this when I was at a, a, um, conference table to file, um, inheritance taxes for wealthy men, and, uh, here there are three, three, uh, people, their kids, right? A wife and three kids, and they're born and brought up in the same household, but the, the eldest son looks like a Wall Street type, you know, nice wear, suit and short haircut, and the second daughter looks very, uh, humble, and the third one looks like hippie. [laughs] And I-
- LHLewis Howes
Sure
- KHKen Honda
... w- is, are they real-
- LHLewis Howes
Is it that hippie [laughs]
- KHKen Honda
... related? And then I realized that to financial situation, if you're worried, um, you might end up becoming a, a money maker, you know? They're addicted-
- LHLewis Howes
If you're worried.
- KHKen Honda
If you're worried.
- LHLewis Howes
If the responsibility is on you-
- KHKen Honda
Right, so you-
- LHLewis Howes
... you're the older ch- Yeah
- KHKen Honda
... by making more money, you try to fix the worry.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- KHKen Honda
And, uh, and if you worry, you may want to become a spender because you feel powerful when you spend the money. So if you worry, you want to be a saver. By saving, you can feel the security.
- LHLewis Howes
Yes.
- KHKen Honda
And so, um, uh, there will be a worrier. You know, you, you do nothing, but you keep worrying.
- LHLewis Howes
Yes. [laughs]
- KHKen Honda
So to, uh, financial situation, there can be many different ways, and, uh, different personalities are born. So I'm fascinated with the subject because, uh, you never knew that you're a spender. ... you're a, a money maker. And, uh, your question comes toward, um, money maker type.
- 25:06 – 34:02
Economic Uncertainty and Investing in Yourself
- LHLewis Howes
there's so much happening with the end talks, specifically in America, with interest rates going up in America-
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm
- LHLewis Howes
... inflation going up to over 8.5% recently, I think. You know, the housing market, uh, and just the uncertainty of the economic situation-
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm
- LHLewis Howes
... in America.
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm.
- LHLewis Howes
What do you think people should be investing in? What types of assets for the next, you know, few years with all the uncertainty? What would be a great investment-
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm
- LHLewis Howes
... that's not a try to get rich quick-
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm
- LHLewis Howes
... investment, but something that would deliver good returns-
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm
- LHLewis Howes
... hopefully over time?
- KHKen Honda
Right. So I taught this course online, and like 8,000 people, um, watched me-
- LHLewis Howes
Wow
- KHKen Honda
... uh, teach this online. So, um, I taught about, uh, financial independence and visible assets and indivisible, invisible assets.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- KHKen Honda
I see there is w- there is gonna be a big change. It could come as a crash of Wall Street, but, uh, it's, uh, more, uh... I think I see a bigger thing is, is gonna come.
- LHLewis Howes
Like what?
- KHKen Honda
Like, uh, the, the collapse of financial system.
- LHLewis Howes
Really?
- KHKen Honda
Because, uh, we've, uh, printed so much money, and then it's going crazy. It's out, out of control. So, um, we never know what's gonna happen. Nobody can predict. So, uh, even if you are investing in, uh, uh, uh, Bitcoins and cryptocurrency, it shot up and then down. And, uh, gold and silver is, uh, real gold coins and silver coins for not super wealthy people, I recommend that. But, you know, in 1930s, uh, US government prohibited from owning, uh, gold. Uh, so-
- LHLewis Howes
Really? Why?
- KHKen Honda
You have to... Uh, because, uh, it, uh, to protect, um, uh, dollars.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- KHKen Honda
So if that kind of thing happens, uh, even though, uh, investment in gold is good, but it, it... Well, what if they change the law and then it could become a felony, uh, without, uh, of, about owning, uh, gold-
- LHLewis Howes
Gold, yeah
- KHKen Honda
... without reporting it, right? So those things, uh, real estate can be, uh, quite risky because it shot up that much. It could possibly go down at least t- back to 10 years or 20, 30 years.
- LHLewis Howes
Right.
- KHKen Honda
So all the thing that it got inflated could go down. So there is no safe investment. That is something that you have to really know. So whatever you invest could end up in half or 30% down. So instead, I recommend people start looking at invisible assets because, uh, what if, um, you lose everything overnight? Uh, if you have gold, uh, what if the government tries to take away to pay all the bills and stuff, which is really happening in China, by the way.
- 34:02 – 42:39
Three Steps to Prepare: Peace, Inventory, Support
- LHLewis Howes
What, for everyone listening and watching right now, what would be the next three steps they should take after listening or watching to this-
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm
- LHLewis Howes
... around their invisible assets, their visible assets, or just the next three steps they should take in life to prepare for this?
- KHKen Honda
Right. So mentally, you have to be ready to find your peace of mind. So you can start counting your blessings, start appreciating what you have, and, uh, enjoy the flow of happy money. So when money comes in, you can say, "Thank you for the money given to me." When you pay for the bills, "Thank you, I have enough abundance, so I can pay the bills," and start blessing people that you're giving money to. So by doing that, you can find your, uh, peace of mind-
- LHLewis Howes
Yes
- KHKen Honda
... in whatever you do, and [laughs] I think that's, that's a basic.
- LHLewis Howes
That's number one, okay.
- KHKen Honda
That's the base. And also secondly, you have to start, uh, figuring out your inventory, what you have and who you are.
- LHLewis Howes
What type of inventory?
- KHKen Honda
Uh, both emotional and also, uh, your gift. I never knew I could write until I was 33.
- LHLewis Howes
Really?
- KHKen Honda
My, uh, parents were so surprised, and my brother and sister, and many of my, uh, uh, friends were so surprised that I became a, a author. And I was the, the one who [laughs] gets surprised most, by the way.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- KHKen Honda
So I didn't know until I started writing. So I'm sure they ha- you have some kind of gifts buried in you. For example, Lewis, you are, uh, an athlete, so definitely you k- you knew, uh, your gift as an athlete, but probably you didn't know, um, that you had a gift as an in- interviewer.
- LHLewis Howes
No, I had no idea.
- KHKen Honda
Speaker.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- KHKen Honda
Writer.
- LHLewis Howes
I had no idea.
- KHKen Honda
Right, writer, right?
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- KHKen Honda
And also, uh, somebody who can motivate people.
- LHLewis Howes
Right.
- KHKen Honda
You know, you use it o- for you to motivate yourself.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- KHKen Honda
But you didn't know you can impact millions of people.
- LHLewis Howes
I had no idea.
- KHKen Honda
Right? So, like, when you are young, uh, in your 30s and 40s, you never knew.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- KHKen Honda
And so you have to start looking at-
- 42:39 – 48:48
Money Magnetism, Your Reserved Seat and Listening to Your Heart
- LHLewis Howes
In your book, which I love by the way, again, I wanna, I wanna get this book, Happy Money, you talk about, I think you use a concept called money magnet or like we're, humans are like magnets and-
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm
- LHLewis Howes
... uh, for money, right?
- KHKen Honda
Right.
- LHLewis Howes
And some people, it doesn't matter if you are a good person or a bad person, right?
- KHKen Honda
Yes.
- LHLewis Howes
You, you have an analogy in the book-
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm
- LHLewis Howes
... where you say, you know, if a rock is falling, it doesn't care who it hits.
- KHKen Honda
[laughs]
- LHLewis Howes
It could hit a good person or a bad person.
- KHKen Honda
Right.
- LHLewis Howes
It's gravity is pulling that rock to the ground, and it's gonna hit whoever it hits, right?
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm.
- LHLewis Howes
Based on where they're at. So, and you also talk about how most people think that, that it's not fair-
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm
- LHLewis Howes
... when they see someone bad-
- KHKen Honda
Mm
- LHLewis Howes
... or mean or greedy making all the money.
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm.
- LHLewis Howes
Can you just talk about this concept of being a money magnet?
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm.
- LHLewis Howes
And how someone can become more of that?
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm. So, uh, once again, you know, we experience our life, uh, according to our beliefs, and some people have, uh, better luck, uh, than others, and, uh, some people work so hard, but they're getting minimum wages.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- KHKen Honda
So you have to find, uh, your place, your seat, uh, your reserved seat is what I call. Uh, a lot of people try to sit on, uh, um, other people's seat [laughs] which is wrong because your seat is reserved somewhere else. And if you don't sit, uh, on others, uh, other people's seat, uh, what happens is that you get so depressed. Uh, and then you feel so meaningless, you know, so, and all that because you cannot really feel, uh, life. But once you sit on your seat, you are so deep, deeply connected with-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm
- KHKen Honda
... with your life purpose, then you start, uh, your magnetism, uh, starts, um, uh, gets turned on.
- LHLewis Howes
So how does someone know where their seat is and know how to sit in it and be happy with their seat?
- KHKen Honda
Yeah. So the only thing is ask your heart, what your heart tells you. If you're excited about it, you're going closer.
- 48:48 – 57:19
Money as Energy: Hoarding, Flow and Letting Go
- LHLewis Howes
And can you tell me how we can think about money as energy?
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm.
- LHLewis Howes
In the book also, I, I saw you writing about how money is energy, and sometimes people try to make it and hold onto it.
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm.
- LHLewis Howes
They wanna hold onto it. They wanna stack it in their bank as high as they can go.
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm.
- LHLewis Howes
And they don't wanna spend it. Sometimes it happens. What happens when we hoard money, when we keep it, and we don't let it come and go-
- KHKen Honda
Mm
- LHLewis Howes
... as energy? What happens?
- KHKen Honda
So I have seen so many interesting things. Like, when you, uh... If you hoard your money, a few things happen. You get sick, and-
- LHLewis Howes
Really?
- KHKen Honda
... then you have to pay for the medical bills.
- LHLewis Howes
Really?
- KHKen Honda
Yeah. Or, like, your kids do something bad, and then you have to pay for the damage. So, uh, money needs outlet. So, uh, it's so interesting how money flows, and if you don't let, uh, let out, uh, your, your, um, money, uh, energy's outlet, it's gonna, uh, it's gonna get bad. It's like a, a pond.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- KHKen Honda
If there's no, uh, fl- uh, flow, uh, the water gets bad.
- LHLewis Howes
Right.
- KHKen Honda
It's like think about your health. If you eat, eat, eat, and don't go to the bathroom-
- LHLewis Howes
[laughs]
- KHKen Honda
[laughs]
- LHLewis Howes
You'll get sick
- KHKen Honda
... what- what's gonna happen?
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- KHKen Honda
So for, to stay healthy, you have to eat right. You have to release right.
- LHLewis Howes
Yes.
- KHKen Honda
So, uh, for, for hoarding, uh, money, I want to ask them, uh, "You're eating so much, but what if you refuse?" I'll, I'm ne- I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm not gonna go to the bathroom, you know, for the rest of my life.
- LHLewis Howes
Oh, my gosh.
- KHKen Honda
[laughs]
- LHLewis Howes
You'd be sick.
- KHKen Honda
Right, and you cannot-
- 57:19 – 1:04:12
Loving Your Money and Asking Where It Wants to Go
- LHLewis Howes
Right. And what happens to people when they speak bad about money? They complain about it.
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm.
- LHLewis Howes
They live in scarcity.
- KHKen Honda
[laughs]
- LHLewis Howes
What happens?
- KHKen Honda
Yes. It's a good question. So think of, uh, money as a person. Uh, I always ask, um-
- LHLewis Howes
Ooh
- KHKen Honda
... you know, I, I talk to thousands of people at a time, and just I as- ask a big audience, uh, "How many of you love money?" You know, if it's a business seminar, they say, "Yes." And, uh, my next question is, "How many people do you think money loves you as much?" And they think-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm
- KHKen Honda
... "Hm, I love money, but I don't know if I'm-
- LHLewis Howes
[laughs]
- KHKen Honda
... being loved by money." But the mut- uh, feelings, uh, must be mutual, right? It's the same thing with a p- a relationship.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- KHKen Honda
Even if you love her, love him so much, if you don't get the same amount of love from, from the other part, it doesn't mean anything.
- LHLewis Howes
So you have to, you have to love your money, and your money has to love you.
- KHKen Honda
Right.
- LHLewis Howes
But if you speak bad about money-
- KHKen Honda
What would you think?
- LHLewis Howes
... or, or you speak bad about people who have money-
- KHKen Honda
Yes
- LHLewis Howes
... then why would money love you in return?
- KHKen Honda
Yes.
- LHLewis Howes
So-
- KHKen Honda
So, uh, exactly, thank you for answering me. [laughs]
- LHLewis Howes
[laughs]
- KHKen Honda
Yeah, so that's exact, uh, it like, exactly, uh, what, what, what I want to say.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- KHKen Honda
If you want to be in love with money, you have to be, you know, you have to respect your money as your best friend or your love of your life, so love, uh, or money can love you back.
- LHLewis Howes
So what are the best ways that we can start respecting our money better, so that our money loves us more and wants to bring more friends?
- KHKen Honda
I always ask my money where it wants to go.
- 1:04:12 – 1:11:51
Teaching Kids About Money, Emotions and Giving
- LHLewis Howes
What would you say to parents on the three most important things they should be teaching their children-
- KHKen Honda
Okay
- LHLewis Howes
... as they get into, you know, after five years old-
- KHKen Honda
Uh-huh
- LHLewis Howes
... as they start learning about money and the material world-
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm
- LHLewis Howes
... what lessons should parent, parents be teaching their kids-
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm
- LHLewis Howes
... about money-
- KHKen Honda
Yeah
- LHLewis Howes
... in, in your opinion?
- KHKen Honda
Great. Thank you. So I will, uh, uh, I, I used to, and then, and I think, um, I'm still teaching my, my child, uh, she's 24, so she's grown up, uh, already. But, uh, what, w- the first thing I would teach is money is fun.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- KHKen Honda
So if your kids know that money is fun, so, uh, we used to sit on a dinner table, uh, just say, uh, uh, "I have this," say, uh, "$10,000 to donate, uh, w- what do you wanna do? You can, you know, help rescue the animals, you can help the environment, you can help the homeless people. What do you want to do? And, uh, when we give presents, uh, what would you wanna do?" So my daughter grew up, uh, thinking money can do so many wonders. So, uh, if, uh, all our kids learned money, mag- money is a magical wand to make people happy, I think people are more excited about getting the money so they have no negative ideas about money. Uh, and, and, uh, i- imagine what if e- all the child are, have never been scolded for wasting their money.
- LHLewis Howes
[laughs]
- KHKen Honda
I think we'll be s- uh, so stress-free because a lot of worries come from the, the need for survival, and it's attached to money.
- LHLewis Howes
Right. Right.
- KHKen Honda
So once we are, um, free of money stress, I think, uh, our life would be so different.
- LHLewis Howes
Yes.
- KHKen Honda
Yeah. So if you can teach money is a, a fun thing, that is a great starter.
- LHLewis Howes
Okay. Number one, teach them money is fun.
- KHKen Honda
Right. And also, I, I, I want you to, uh, teach, uh, your kids about money and emotions because those things are not taught at school. Um, uh, because even though, uh, your child is growing up with, uh, positive a- positive attitudes, your friends may not, so they, they're trying to compete with you of how much, uh, they have, uh, allowances or like, "This is my new iPhone," something.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm. Yes.
- KHKen Honda
Or like, "This is my sneakers," or-
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah
- KHKen Honda
... whatever that is. And then, uh, people try to manipulate you-
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah
- KHKen Honda
... with emotions. So if you start teaching, uh, you feel bad about money, you feel ashamed of money, you feel guilty about r- around money, we all feel some emotions.
- LHLewis Howes
Yes.
- KHKen Honda
So if you start teaching emotions about, uh, around money- I think your kids will be emotionally free-
- 1:11:51 – 1:20:09
Money, Sex, Healing, and Honda's Own Challenge
- LHLewis Howes
Speaking of parents-
- KHKen Honda
Mm
- LHLewis Howes
... uh, and moving to a related topic-
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm
- LHLewis Howes
... how does sex and money play together?
- KHKen Honda
I cannot, uh, I cannot stop talking, you know. You need five more hours. [laughs]
- LHLewis Howes
[laughs]
- KHKen Honda
But I think American people especially interested in this.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- KHKen Honda
Uh, uh, money and, uh, uh, sex have something in common. It pulls out the best and the worst of you.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- KHKen Honda
And it, it, it pulls out the best emotions and the worst emotions because it, it, they both, they can show, uh, you, you both heaven and hell.
- LHLewis Howes
Right.
- KHKen Honda
Because a lot of crimes happen because of these two.
- LHLewis Howes
[laughs] It's true.
- KHKen Honda
So-
- LHLewis Howes
Wow
- KHKen Honda
... uh, with your financial problem and sexual problem, you get the worst out of you. You hate yourself by being such a jerk-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm
- KHKen Honda
... or, you know, bad, bad girl. So, um, it pulls out, uh, a lot of emotions, so you have to be careful because you never know what you get, and, and because it's so suppressed deep with- deep within. But in other words, um, money and sex can be a great healer because it can transform your life.
- LHLewis Howes
You say healer?
- KHKen Honda
Healer.
- LHLewis Howes
Healer.
- KHKen Honda
Yes.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- KHKen Honda
It can transform your life. That's why I call myself money healer. Uh, i- if you heal money, uh, you can heal so many things.
- LHLewis Howes
Wow.
- KHKen Honda
And, uh, and mo- and money and sex are doing the similar things.
- LHLewis Howes
Really?
- KHKen Honda
Because it's so attached to your self-worth. Like say, how many people are confident about their sexual situation and financial situation?
- 1:20:09 – 1:22:43
Three Truths and Defining Greatness
- LHLewis Howes
I asked you this question before.
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm.
- LHLewis Howes
But I'm curious if something else has come up for you.
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm.
- LHLewis Howes
So this is the last couple questions.
- KHKen Honda
Yes.
- LHLewis Howes
This is called the three truths.
- KHKen Honda
Mm.
- LHLewis Howes
So imagine it's your last day on earth, many years away.
- KHKen Honda
Mm.
- LHLewis Howes
You get to live as long as you wanna live-
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm
- LHLewis Howes
... but you have to call it your last day. You write an- another thousand books.
- KHKen Honda
[laughs]
- LHLewis Howes
You do all the things you wanna do.
- KHKen Honda
Right.
- LHLewis Howes
But for whatever reason, all of your work, your books, have to go with you.
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm.
- LHLewis Howes
So we don't have access to this conversation-
- KHKen Honda
Right
- LHLewis Howes
... or this book anymore.
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm.
- LHLewis Howes
Hypothetical.
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm.
- LHLewis Howes
But you get to leave behind three lessons to the world.
- KHKen Honda
Mm.
- LHLewis Howes
Three truths that you would share.
- KHKen Honda
Mm-hmm.
- LHLewis Howes
This is all we have-
- KHKen Honda
Mm
- 1:22:43 – 1:37:33
Bonus: Gratitude for Bills, Happiness First, and the Two Florists
- LHLewis Howes
I love this approach, and this is something I've been doing for years, actually. I can't remember if I learned this somewhere or if I just saw someone talking about this. When I see payments come through in my email or my bank or wherever they come through, I say thank you. I say thank you every time, whether it's a dollar or, you know, a big check. I'm like, "Thank you, thank you. I really appreciate it." I don't s- I don't say thank you when I'm paying something. W- why? And I'm... I wanna try this, 'cause I think it's an interesting approach. Why should we also say thank you when we're sending out money, uh, to others?
- KHKen Honda
Because, uh, if you get a, if you get a bill, that means you... Somebody did something for you. For example, if it's an electricity bill, you know, because of, uh, the electricity company, um, I can use the internet. I can use the lighting and microphone and computer. And it's not only one man job. Uh, there is this, uh, service person. There is this, uh, people who are at the power plants. Uh, and also there is somebody who just brought, uh, oil to Japan from Middle East. And, and there are, I don't know, thousands of people, uh, working for the electricity, and they make sure that it's, uh, in my house installed properly.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- KHKen Honda
So there are millions of, uh, um, uh, reasons to appreciate the electricity, and if it's, uh, say if, it's a, uh, if it's $300 or $500 or, uh, maybe sha- uh, smaller or bigger, wow, you know. If I'm asked to, uh, install somebody's house with that electricity, I, I cannot do that with this money. So thank you for just giving me, uh, the electricity. Thank, thank you for giving me water. Thank you-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm
- KHKen Honda
... for, uh, serving me good meal at the restaurant. Thank you for giving me a ride, like Uber. So you can thank the person who gave you the service and product. So the, the reason you, you have to pay, you're getting something in, in exchange. And usually takes more than one or two or could be 100 people's work. And then-
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah
- KHKen Honda
... uh, you ask the money. Thank them, too. So that means the, the money you give to the electricity company will be paid to all the people.
- LHLewis Howes
Wow.
- KHKen Honda
So, like, I can... It's like a magic wand. E- even if it's $100, this magic wand can s- uh, will start saying, "Thank you, thank you, thank you, guys." [laughs] And so, you know, it'll just, uh, thank... It, it's like a domino effect, effect of, uh, thank you. So it's not just-
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah
- KHKen Honda
... thanking your money, thanking the people who are connected with me. So, uh, we are all living on this planet- Together. So if we have this feeling, everybody's feeling this way, we all connected. We all connected with, uh, people in the Middle East, we all connected with the people in Russia, Africa, China, US. Uh, like it or not, we all connected. So do we hate each other or do we appreciate one another? So if we start doing more, there will be, uh, no exploitation of any kind. That's the economy I want to see in the coming years.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah. It's such a, uh, simple philosophy and practice that I think if we can all start to do it a little more with money and with everything, the people that we see, our friends, thanking them when they're coming, thanking them when they're leaving, for their time, their attention. My girlfriend does this with our meals every time we eat together. She's really thank- she puts a lot of time and attention thanking the people that just made this, the people that delivered the food to the restaurant, the people who harvested the food, you know, and all the people. And it's not something I did until about a year ago with food, and it's something that I've sh- I've noticed my digestive system relaxing, like me just taking in the moment and, and feeling a better sense of joy and happiness while eating food, as opposed to just eating protein bars to get to the next thing. Um, but really appreciating it. And I think when we appreciate things, wh- which I'm hearing you say, when you appreciate money, when it comes, when it goes, when you appreciate food, when you appreciate your home, your family, your friends, those things will appreciate in value, and they'll wanna come to you more. Is that what I'm hearing you say?
- KHKen Honda
Yes, exactly. And, and, uh, Lewis, you know what I, what I've been talking about, and you've been practicing it without knowing maybe. But, uh, I think you've been doing it as a natural person. You know, there are a certain thing like a natural business person, natural artist. So you're one of the natural people who, who just f- uh, appreciate things. You know-
- LHLewis Howes
I believe, yeah
- KHKen Honda
... that's why you're successful and people love you. And, uh, so if you want to be like, uh, if, if, if, if the viewers like, uh, want to be like Lewis, you have to learn what he's doing, [laughs] you know? So it's not just, uh, small habits, but I think the attitude, uh-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm
- KHKen Honda
... uh, toward life. And somehow, um, there are the only two kinds, you know. One, one kind is, uh, people who k- keep appreciating, the other one keep, um, complaining about it. So if you just, uh, you know... It could be s- something very small, but after 20 years, your life will be very different. So I hope-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm
- KHKen Honda
... everybody will appreciate one another a little bit w- a little bit more from yesterday.
- LHLewis Howes
And what happens if we start complaining about money more, whether it be just kind of frustrated, little comments here and there? You know, what happens to m- to money in our life when we complain about it as opposed to appreciate it and, and thank it?
- KHKen Honda
So, uh, if you start complaining about money, uh, like 95, 5% of us, [laughs]
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm
- KHKen Honda
... money, just, uh, look at from a money's perspective. You know, if you've been complaining about it, "Oh, I don't wanna go to him anymore," [laughs] and then-
- LHLewis Howes
[laughs]
- KHKen Honda
... and, and it's like a mutual. Feeling is, feeling is mutual. Okay, you, you can complain, "Okay, fine. I'm not gonna come to you." [laughs] So, uh, and I think subconsciously, if you're complaining about money, you don't want it to be near you. So my favorite question to people is, "If money was a person, who would it be?" That means-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm
- KHKen Honda
... uh, if money was a person, would it be a fun person, always joking, always making, uh, entertaining you? Or is somebody like a, a assassin, you know, who's, who's gonna try to hurt you or scare you, or gangsters who try to, you know, uh, uh, intimidate you. So, uh, if you're complaining, money may not be a such a fun, good person. So I, I think by complaining, you become... uh, you make money a villain, and you don't want the scary person to live in your house. So, uh, for happy, wealthy people, money is their best friend.
- LHLewis Howes
How do we reprogram our minds to either heal or shift our perspective to be ready for the money, the relationship, the, the healthier opportunity for us?
- KHKen Honda
I think the question should be what do you need, why or n- what, why, what do you need the money for? Unless you're clear with what you wanna do, I think you will never be ready. Uh, I, I have a, a, you know, young, young people like your young per- you know, you young person back they, back then, say, "Ken, I wanna make $1 trillion." [laughs] "I wanna be a billionaire."
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