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Lewis Howes"Try This Today & You Will BREAK THE ADDICTION To Negative Thoughts & Emotions!" | Dr Joe Dispenza
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Personal Challenges and Staying in Balance
Lewis Howes asks Dr. Joe Dispenza about his own limiting beliefs and triggers. Dispenza describes the many moving parts of running events, his struggle for balance, and how he tries to keep his reactions short.
- •Dispenza says he is no different from anyone else and has his own challenges
- •He needs time alone to remember his vision
- •His work involves a big team, monthly events, staff, scientists and volunteers
- •He loves creating meditations and music best, and tries to keep reactions under about 10 minutes
- •What he cares most about is keeping the work pure and in its original version
Accountability, Vision and Staying Curious
Dispenza discusses the evening meditation as metacognition and names accountability, competence and a vision bigger than yourself as the ingredients of excellence. He prefers curiosity and wondering to a rigid vision statement.
- •The evening meditation checks in on who you wanted to be that day
- •Excellence combines accountability, competence and a larger vision
- •Goals along the way show you are still on course with your vision
- •Dispenza is at his best when he wonders and reviews knowledge
- •Returning to the basics keeps the work from going stale
Research Findings: Metabolites, Blood and the Body's Pharmacy
Asked about his biggest discovery, Dispenza says their studies show far higher cause-and-effect than drug studies. He describes metabolite changes in a week, advanced meditators' blood affecting cancer cells and neurons, and a large microbiome study.
- •He says their studies show 75% cause and effect, versus 18–25% in drug studies
- •Thousands of metabolites change over a week-long event
- •Blood from advanced meditators diminishes energy in a uterine cancer cell and down-regulates the Alzheimer's gene in a neuron
- •The nervous system is described as the greatest pharmacy in the world
- •A 1,000-person microbiome study showed reductions in cancer- and inflammation-linked microbiomes
Brainwaves, Frequency and Coherent High-Gamma States
Dispenza explains how shifting attention from matter to energy moves the brain from beta to alpha and theta. In high gamma, people have ecstatic experiences that he says can be induced and replicated, often with biological upgrades.
- •We perceive less than 1% of reality
- •Sensing space slows brainwaves from beta to alpha to theta
- •Theta leaves the door to the subconscious open, and information can come through frequency
- •High gamma feels like ecstasy and bliss, not fear or aggression
- •Tumors, Parkinson's and eczema have disappeared after such experiences, he says
Skeptical Scientists, Testimonials and Random Event Generators
Dispenza says the scientists who studied the data were skeptics who kept re-running tests. He explains why testimonials work like the four-minute mile and describes experiments in which groups influenced random event generators and bacterial colonies.
- •Scientists reran tests repeatedly because the results surprised them
- •Testimonials give others permission to believe 'if he can do it, I can do it'
- •Groups in brain and heart coherence made random event generators behave non-randomly
- •A bacterial colony shifted toward green when a group focused on it
- •Quantum entanglement is a hypothesis, and more specialists are being brought in
Future Discoveries and Collective Healing
Asked what the next decade may bring, Dispenza predicts strong interventions in cancer, chronic pain, anxiety, depression and PTSD. He says small groups in coherence can influence healing in another person, and collective networks of observers determine reality.
- •He expects strong cancer data, and says they already have data on anxiety, depression and PTSD
- •People have stepped out of wheelchairs and blind and deaf people have reported improvements at events
- •Who controls the right information controls reality
- •Six to eight people can influence one person's healing
- •It is coherence of brain and heart, not crowd size or emotion, that sends the strongest signal
Healing Trauma and Mental Health Through the Heart
Howes raises mental health and trauma, and Dispenza says coherent heart activity resets the amygdala's trauma baseline. He shares stories of a woman who broke through abuse trauma and a cancer researcher who recovered after conventional treatments failed.
- •Data is strongest for PTSD, anxiety, depression, mood disorders and OCD; psychoses are different and require staying on medication
- •Healing the heart and the mind go together
- •The heart signals the brain that the event is over, resetting the baseline
- •People often wouldn't change their past because it brought them to the present
- •A cancer researcher's stage four sarcoma disappeared after other approaches failed, which he ties to changing herself
Plant Medicines and Self-Regulation
Responding to Howes's question about ayahuasca and plant medicines, Dispenza says they can offer altered perspective but insight alone often doesn't change behavior. He warns of dependence on outside substances and says this work is about self-regulating without them.
- •Plant medicines act on receptors like serotonin and give a view from outside yourself
- •His key question is what the person will do with the experience
- •Insight, he says, rarely changes behavior by itself
- •He cites people with cancer who did 65 sessions without change and advises trying something else
- •He would tell people to change their emotional state first and then take the substance
Fears, Age and Advice to Lighten Up
Dispenza says he has few fears and wants the work to be about the people, not about him. Asked what he would tell his 40-year-old self, he says to lighten up and be playful instead of driven.
- •He mainly wants to stay healthy and to bring in trusted people to help on stage
- •He wants the work never to be about him
- •He says his body is 60
- •At 40 he was driven and forced creation instead of letting it happen
- •He does best when playful, silly and curious, and he makes room for the unknown
Study, Assign Meaning and Go All In
Dispenza argues that understanding why and what you're doing makes the how easier, using the ice bath example. He points to testimonials about change, and says going all in at a week-long event produces profound metabolic changes in almost everyone.
- •He studies and owns content so he believes what he creates is possible
- •An ice bath can be harmful or valuable depending on the meaning assigned and the prefrontal cortex
- •Testimonials show how people changed, not which meditation they did
- •A man who left a wheelchair assigned meaning to feeling love to signal his genes
- •He says going all in produces profound metabolic changes in almost 100% of people
Be the Example: Closing Message
Howes points listeners to Dispenza's website and resources and asks how to support him. Dispenza says to be the example, to stand up now, and to build collective consciousness; the interview ends with thanks.
- •Howes points to drjoedispenza.com for the newsletter, research, testimonials and free resources
- •Dispenza says to show the world what greatness, love, patience and leadership look like
- •Don't tell people what to change, let them ask what is different about you
- •The world needs people here, not retreating to the Himalayas
- •Everybody has to lead, and collective networks of observers determine reality
How Trauma Becomes Biology and How Fast It Can Heal
In a follow-up segment, Howes asks how quickly decades-old trauma can heal. Dispenza explains how emotion branded into memory selects genes and conditions the body into the past, and says a strong inner event can begin conditioning it toward a new future.
- •Strong emotion freezes an image into long-term memory and changes biology
- •The emotion from an event can select genes through epigenetics
- •The body can live a past experience 50–100 times a day through repeated thought
- •Creating an inner event of joy or gratitude conditions the body for a new future
- •He says genes are a library of potentials, and signals up-regulate or down-regulate them
Emergency Mode, the Immune System and the Thymus
Dispenza explains how living in fight-or-flight drains energy from growth and repair and compromises the immune system. He says opening the heart can strengthen immunity by 50% in four days through the thymus gland and T cells.
- •Chronic stress response diverts energy from growth, repair and immunity
- •Believing outside things control how you feel makes you a victim to your environment
- •Their research shows attention on the heart can strengthen immunity by 50% in four days
- •The thymus gland makes growth hormone and immune chemicals
- •He describes how T cells and immunoglobulins help block viruses
The Formula: Moving Beyond Body, Environment and Time
Dispenza says 8,500 brain scans show what it takes to change. Taking attention off body, people, things, places and time leaves pure consciousness, and opening focus slows brainwaves and lets the autonomic nervous system restore order.
- •They have done 8,500 brain scans and can predict transformational moments
- •Going from someone to no one, something to nothing, somewhere to nowhere and some time to no time leaves pure consciousness
- •Stress narrows focus on matter and leads to trying harder, which burns people out
- •Opening focus slows brainwaves and lets innate intelligence create order
- •Brain hemispheres synchronize and people feel whole
Heart Coherence, Anxiety and Creating the Future
Dispenza explains how heart coherence produces a measurable field up to three meters wide, amplifies the brain and resets anxiety. He says people should feel the emotion of their future before it arrives, self-regulate when they lose it, and practice a simple heart-focused routine.
- •The heart can produce a measurable magnetic field up to three meters wide
- •Oxytocin, nitric oxide and endothelial-derived relaxing factor make the heart feel full
- •Anxiety comes from living in survival and rehearsing the worst-case scenario
- •Trying to speed up what you want returns you to the old self
- •The practice is to get still, focus on the heart, slow the breath and trade resentment for gratitude