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"Try This Today & You Will BREAK THE ADDICTION To Negative Thoughts & Emotions!" | Dr Joe Dispenza

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  1. 0:00 – 6:33

    Personal Challenges and Staying in Balance

    1. JD

      When people do this, in seven days of going all in, at the end of seven days, their body looks like, genetically, with all the metabolites, that they're literally

    2. LH

      I think you gotta have a dream.

    3. JD

      The School of Greatness.

    4. LH

      Really? [laughs] Yeah.

    5. JD

      Please welcome Lewis Howes.

    6. LH

      What is your thing that might come in every now and then as a limiting belief for you?

    7. JD

      Oh, God.

    8. LH

      Or something that holds you back?

    9. JD

      Well, I'm no different, I'm no different than anybody else. I mean, of course, I mean, uh-

    10. LH

      And what are those things then that hold you back or that maybe limit you or get you into the memories of a fear state as opposed to the future thing?

    11. JD

      Look, it takes a, it takes a lot for me to do what I do. I mean, there's a lot of-

    12. LH

      A lot of energy

    13. JD

      ... there's a lot of people that would love to see me fail, you know? And, and, um, you know, the beauty behind my, I think, my perseverance, uh, is that we're uncovering some really powerful truths for people to, like, really embrace.

    14. LH

      Mm.

    15. JD

      Like, I keep telling the scientists, "I can't believe this is the truth."

    16. LH

      Yeah.

    17. JD

      I tell them that. Like, "I can't believe this is the truth." We have the evidence right there that you could make your brain work better in four days. You could make your heart work better in four days. You could make, you could make your immune system 50% stronger in four days. You could, you could regulate g- eight different genes in four days that are all promoting neurogenesis and stem cell production and, and oxidative balance, and all, all kinds of wonderful things. Uh, s- cellular structure is enhanced. All of this stuff is really cool because if you don't know that that's possible-

    18. LH

      Mm

    19. JD

      ... right, then it doesn't exist for you, right? Like, if you're, if you're unconscious to the fact that you could heal yourself, you'll make the same choices you always do. So, so I'm challenged in my own way at a different level to, to, to do my best to do the right, make the right choices all the time, and sometimes those choices, um, I can't, I can't rely on anybody else but me to make those choices-

    20. LH

      Mm

    21. JD

      ... because nobody else knows what it's like to be me than me.

    22. LH

      Right.

    23. JD

      Even my closest friends think they know me, but they, but when it comes down to making the choice, it's, it's a lonely moment, right? 'Cause I'm doing my best to try to preserve this work and to inspire people to apply it in their lives-

    24. LH

      Yes

    25. JD

      ... as many ways as I can. So, so, so a lot of times I get discouraged, like, "Oh my God," like, "Another challenge. Another challenge." But, you know, I think, you know, when I'm truly in the right zone, I, I, I think the only way that we actually can grow in our lives is to be challenged, right? So, and I, and I think that-

    26. LH

      Ugh. There you go

    27. JD

      ... I think the greater, the greater we evolve or the greater we become, I think the greater the challenge is, you know? And so, so I'm, I have my own set of challenges that I have to really retreat from my life. I have to spend a lot of time alone-

    28. LH

      Really?

    29. JD

      ... and I have to remember that vision, and I have to, and I have to s- I have to get beyond all, all those other things that say, "Well, my God, this is, this might be a good time for you to quit-

    30. LH

      Really?

  2. 6:33 – 9:20

    Accountability, Vision and Staying Curious

    1. LH

      Your, your morning and evening meditation is incredible. I don't know if people-

    2. JD

      Well, that's, that's a great example of metacognition. That's a great example of reminding yourself of who you wanna be and who you no longer wanna be, and then check in at the end of the day. You say, "I had a whole lifetime today. How'd I do?"

    3. LH

      That's incredible.

    4. JD

      Yeah.

    5. LH

      And yeah, and your evening meditation, I'll listen to the morning one and the evening, um, often. And the evening one, you have this thing where it's like, "How did I show up? Did I show up as my best version of myself?"

    6. JD

      Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

    7. LH

      And, and did I-

    8. JD

      It's always-

    9. LH

      ... do the things I said I was gonna do.

    10. JD

      Yeah.

    11. LH

      And, you know, and it's a beautiful reminder of having accountability.

    12. JD

      Yeah, yeah.

    13. LH

      You know?

    14. JD

      Yeah. Accountability is one of the three things that creates excellence, you know. You- accountability is, is basically owning what you say you're gonna do or what you're asked to do. The other element, of course, is competence. You gotta be really good at it. And if it takes you your whole life to get good at it, get good at it. And if you have a vision or a mission that's bigger than you, and you put those three things together, you have a lot of excellence in an individual.

    15. LH

      Mm-hmm. Vision bigger than you.

    16. JD

      Yeah. You gotta be able to master your craft. You gotta, you gotta be really accountable and responsible for yourself. You gotta own yourself, and you gotta have that vision, and you gotta keep that vision alive. I mean, that's heading in a dir- vision, purpose, mission is ongoing. You could have a mission to be healthy. You could have a mission to be wealthy. You could have a mission, you could have a s- you know, purpose to be, you know, uh, to gain knowledge. There's never an end, right?

    17. LH

      Right.

    18. JD

      So it's a direction. The goals we set up a- along the line of our vision are just to remind us that we're still on course, right?

    19. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    20. JD

      And if we're not arriving at those goals, then we've lost our vision.

    21. LH

      Do you feel like each individual should have a vision statement for their personal-

    22. JD

      No

    23. LH

      ... or professional life-

    24. JD

      No

    25. LH

      ... or just have an idea-

    26. JD

      No

    27. LH

      ... of a vision in your mind?

    28. JD

      No, no. I think it's really important for us to be curious. I mean, I'm the best when I wonder.

    29. LH

      Mm.

    30. JD

      Like I say, I always say, "Joe Dispenza, what do you know? Sit down. Don't turn your phone on. Shut it off. A- answer the question. What do you know? Like, what do you, you really believe you create reality? At what point do you stop believing that?" You know? I mean, I really, I wanna know. I wanna think that through all the way because I think the more we understand what we're doing and why we're doing it, I think the how gets easier.

  3. 9:20 – 12:17

    Research Findings: Metabolites, Blood and the Body's Pharmacy

    1. LH

      What was the biggest discovery you found in the last five to 10 years based on practicing, trying, learning, research? What was the thing-

    2. JD

      Yeah

    3. LH

      ... that was like, wow, this is a, this is a new thing or a thing I thought that was gonna work and it's actually working?

    4. JD

      Yeah. Wow. I don't know if we have enough time for that.

    5. LH

      [laughs]

    6. JD

      But we have, we, we, well, the research that we're doing right now, Lewis, um... Well, I'll give you an example. Like a tr- a drug study. You know, when you do a drug study, it's about 18, 25% correlative cause and effect, right?

    7. LH

      Uh-huh.

    8. JD

      Our, our studies are 75% cause and effect.

    9. LH

      Wow.

    10. JD

      There's no pharmaceutical that looks anything like our studies. And the amount of wonderful metabolites that are being created in people's bodies-

    11. LH

      What is a metabolite?

    12. JD

      It's a, like a cell is releasing information. Like, what is, what is the information? It's the, the cell is saying, "I'm in growth," or, "I'm in trouble. I'm in emergency. I'm in, I'm, I'm in disease," right?

    13. LH

      Uh-huh.

    14. JD

      So in seven days, at a week-long event, we d- c- we discovered that people make thousands of different metabolites to show that their body is in a very different environment, very healthy environment. And, and-

    15. LH

      Than when they walked in-

    16. JD

      Than-

    17. LH

      ... in the beginning.

    18. JD

      Yeah, and then they walk-

    19. LH

      Before

    20. JD

      ... dramatic changes. And I keep saying to the scientists, "Where are those chemicals coming from?"

    21. LH

      Where are they coming from?

    22. JD

      They're certainly not coming from some pill that you're taking. It's coming from within us.

    23. LH

      Oh.

    24. JD

      And our f- nervous system is the greatest pharmacy in the world. I mean, you take blood from an advanced meditator that hits a certain brainwave state. We capture that moment of connection. There's information in their blood that causes them to be immune to viruses, any virus. You take the blood of the advanced meditator and you subject it to a uterine cancer cell, and 70% of the energy is diminished in the cancer cell. Lights are out.

    25. LH

      Mm.

    26. JD

      That, that just-

    27. LH

      It shuts it down

    28. JD

      ... shuts it down. And what do cancer cells wanna do? They wanna move-

    29. LH

      They grow

    30. JD

      ... and they wanna multiply.

  4. 12:17 – 18:18

    Brainwaves, Frequency and Coherent High-Gamma States

    1. JD

      Back to our, our original conversation-

    2. LH

      Yes

    3. JD

      ... about putting our attention on matter and putting our attention on energy. Well, a quantum field, right, is, well, you, you know, you look at reality, it's a particle and a wave, right? The particle is matter, the wave is energy. Okay, so, um, it's a scientific fact that we perceive less than 1% of reality. And as a matter, as a matter of fact, the mathematics say it's 100% that we perceive less than 1% of reality. So don't exclude yourself-

    4. LH

      Yes

    5. JD

      ... from that as well.

    6. LH

      Okay.

    7. JD

      So we're missing out on a lot, right? Okay.

    8. LH

      So our perceptions, our faculties, are only perceiving 1% of what's actually real.

    9. JD

      That's exactly right. Yeah, yeah. It's amazing.

    10. LH

      So our sight, our s- our-

    11. JD

      We're, we're, our sight-

    12. LH

      ... taste, our smell-

    13. JD

      Everything

    14. LH

      ... only 1%-

    15. JD

      Yeah

    16. LH

      ... of our real-

    17. JD

      Yeah

    18. LH

      ... of what's actually...

    19. JD

      Yeah, yeah.

    20. LH

      Wow.

    21. JD

      Yeah. Yeah. So we're missing out on a lot.

    22. LH

      So even if we could get to 2 or 3%, it'd be a whole new world.

    23. JD

      Called enlightenment, yeah.

    24. LH

      [laughs]

    25. JD

      Yeah. [laughs] So, so then, so then what we teach people to do is take their attention off the particle, off matter-

    26. LH

      Wow

    27. JD

      ... and put it on energy. And you can experience that energy with your senses. So you're gonna experience it with your awareness, okay?

    28. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    29. JD

      So what happens?

    30. LH

      Yes.

  5. 18:18 – 23:46

    Skeptical Scientists, Testimonials and Random Event Generators

    1. LH

      When these scientists are, are seeing this data, that they're working with the people that are coming to your events, and they're seeing this massive reduction-

    2. JD

      They were all skeptics, by the way

    3. LH

      Yeah. And what do they say when they see the results?

    4. JD

      Okay, this is-

    5. LH

      Are, are they like, "Eh?"

    6. JD

      No, no. No, in the beginning, they were running the tests, the same tests, over and over again-

    7. LH

      [laughs]

    8. JD

      ... expecting to get a different result.

    9. LH

      Yeah

    10. JD

      And, and I said to them, "You're changing your belief. You're doing that right now. You're changing a belief right now." They're looking and seeing, "Oh my God, cells are not behaving the way they should in this plasma"

    11. LH

      Let's run it again.

    12. JD

      It's, let's run it again.

    13. LH

      [laughs] Go back-

    14. JD

      And let's do it another way.

    15. LH

      Yeah

    16. JD

      Let's do it. And they tried all different ways, and they're like, "Oh my God, this is, this is incredible. This is, this is... We've s- never seen anything like this before." So again, why is that important? The testimony of the person who stands on the stage and says, "I didn't have $2 to rub together, and now I, I'm worth hundreds of millions of dollars." The person who says, "I was diagnosed with stage four cancer. It was in my bones, it was in my liver, it was in my lungs, it was in my, you know, my, my pelvic organs." There's not a s- drop of cancer in her blood, and this happens all the time. It's the four-minute mile. It's the person in the audience-

    17. LH

      Mm

    18. JD

      ... who's looking at, looking at truth. That person's the example. If the truth is right in front of them, and the story is not glamorous. You know, they got worse before they got better. They're, they lost things. The doctors told them they were gonna die. I mean, they had every reason to give up on themselves.

    19. LH

      Mm-hmm

    20. JD

      And man, when you hear those stories, I mean, the whole audience is in tears. And invariably, somebody in the room is looking at them and saying, "If he can do it, I can do it."

    21. LH

      Yes.

    22. JD

      Invariably, when we put up that data, the scientists put it up. I, I always say, I'm not, I'm not [laughs] I'm not saying that. I'm not saying this. The data's saying that. Like, when people see that data, they're so encouraged.

    23. LH

      Mm.

    24. JD

      That's the truth. That's the truth. Like, wow, we are greater than we think. We're more powerful than we know. We're more unlimited than we could ever dream, right? And we're just starting to push that envelope a little bit, and we have never been disappointed. We, we, we do these experiments with random event generators, right?

    25. LH

      With what?

    26. JD

      A random event generator.

    27. LH

      Random event generator.

    28. JD

      Generator. Like, so it's a sophisticated, uh, coin toss.

    29. LH

      Uh-huh.

    30. JD

      Now, you toss a coin, you keep tossing it, uh, and the more you toss it, the more it's gonna be 50/50, 50% heads, 50% tails. The more you toss it, it's gonna be the 50% average. So this programmed machine flips a coin a thousand times in one second.

  6. 23:46 – 26:55

    Future Discoveries and Collective Healing

    1. LH

      I have two questions. One that just came to me, what is your, what do you think, if you could predict the future about what is coming of c- in terms of discoveries in this work-

    2. JD

      Mm

    3. LH

      ... that you're doing in the next 10 years?

    4. JD

      I think-

    5. LH

      What, what's possible-

    6. JD

      Yeah, yeah

    7. LH

      ... for us to even go even farther-

    8. JD

      Yeah

    9. LH

      ... than you're seeing right now?

    10. JD

      I think we'll, I think we'll have a very strong intervention in cancer

    11. LH

      ... intervention in cancer

    12. JD

      Like, yeah, yeah, we'll have some really important data to show people that-

    13. LH

      Wow

    14. JD

      ... that they, they can turn that around. We have too many case histories and we have too much really good data right now. I think we'll, I think we'll change, uh, a lot with people that have chronic pain and inflammation. We're, we have great data to change anxiety and depression without any exogenous substance. Uh, PTSD, we have great, um, results with that. Uh, our, our coherence healings where we're healing other people.

    15. LH

      Wow.

    16. JD

      Uh, blind people are seeing. I mean, deaf people are hearing. I mean, uh, people with paralyzed limbs, uh, are lifting their arms above their heads again. I mean, this is after 10 years of being-

    17. LH

      That's great.

    18. JD

      So we, I mean, I've seen... If you asked Joe Dispenza two years ago, "Do you think you'd be seeing what you'd be seeing?" I'd be like-

    19. LH

      No

    20. JD

      ... maybe once or twice. Those are the, it's just, we had so many people step out of wheelchairs at our events. I mean, it happens.

    21. LH

      It's happening over and over now.

    22. JD

      Over and over again. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's just part of the collective consciousness.

    23. LH

      Interesting.

    24. JD

      And I think more than anything else, collective networks of observers determine reality.

    25. LH

      Mm.

    26. JD

      And who controls the information, the right information, controls reality. And so my job, my interest, is to give people the information to empower them to be the creator of their life and not be stuck in the program that they-

    27. LH

      Mm

    28. JD

      ... need someone or something or to make them happy or to change their state. I mean, people are doing it all the time now, and that's just who we are as human beings, right?

    29. LH

      So when you say collective network, uh, I, I'm curious, can a group of people influence healing in another person?

    30. JD

      Yeah, yeah. It's-

  7. 26:55 – 34:34

    Healing Trauma and Mental Health Through the Heart

    1. LH

      I'm curious, I mean, mental health seems to be, you mentioned kind of anxiety, depression, and, uh, and these different states that people could come in with, especially people with trauma from the past-

    2. JD

      Mm

    3. LH

      ... whether it be ex-military, Special Forces-

    4. JD

      Yeah

    5. LH

      ... people that have seen and maybe have to do certain things that they're not excited about and that has these traumas.

    6. JD

      Prisoners.

    7. LH

      Prisoners, yeah.

    8. JD

      Yeah.

    9. LH

      Mental health just seems like something everyone's talking about with the rise of a lot of things.

    10. JD

      Yeah.

    11. LH

      COVID, depression, social media disconnection, all these different things. What is your stance-

    12. JD

      Technology

    13. LH

      ... technology, yeah. Just the feeling connected but not connected, all these things. What's your thoughts on healing these mental health challenges or these diseases?

    14. JD

      We have really, yeah, so we have really good data, uh, uh, primarily for mental health conditions like PTSD, anxiety, depression, cyclic mood disorders, you know, OCD, things like that. But when it comes to psychoses, you know, we just, we just stay away from that-

    15. LH

      Yes

    16. JD

      ... because it's, it's a pathology at that point. And, you know, people can come, but they have to-

    17. LH

      Yeah

    18. JD

      ... stay on their medications-

    19. LH

      Sure, sure

    20. JD

      ... and they have to, you know, and they, this is just, just a little bit different game.

    21. LH

      But if people have more depressed states, more-

    22. JD

      We have brain scan after brain scan that show that you could change that, and sure.

    23. LH

      You could change it.

    24. JD

      Really, sure.

    25. LH

      So is this a-

    26. JD

      So, like, so, like, so, like trauma, it, w- like if you don't know, and again, I don't know everything.

    27. LH

      Yes.

    28. JD

      But what I do know is that when the brain starts w- functioning in a level of order or coherence, more neurons are recruited and bigger communities, and that kind of wholism that's created is so important. The other thing we realize is that when people really heal their heart, they heal their mind.

    29. LH

      Mm.

    30. JD

      Like, there's no, I have no doubt about that. You cannot do one without the other. And when there's enough energy in the heart, and we, we've seen this, we've, we've got the, we've got the technology to see that when the heart starts working, when people start doing it properly, there's this low frequency in the heart that starts to rise. It's only indigenous to the heart because they have their attention on it.

  8. 34:34 – 38:25

    Plant Medicines and Self-Regulation

    1. LH

      I'm curious your thoughts on this. I've never done this. I have tons of friends that have done this. Um, ayahuasca and other types of-

    2. JD

      Mm-hmm

    3. LH

      ... medicines, right?

    4. JD

      Yeah.

    5. LH

      Or, um, plant medicines I guess they call it, right?

    6. JD

      Mm-hmm.

    7. LH

      I've been invited a bunch of times. I know a bunch of people that do this. Um, I've just never done it.

    8. JD

      Mm.

    9. LH

      And I'm curious what your thoughts are on plant medicines in terms of helping you heal or-

    10. JD

      Yeah

    11. LH

      ... or can it really help you, or is it more a crutch or-

    12. JD

      Yeah. Here, here's my thought about it, and it's a, it's a tightrope for me to walk this. I think that a lot of plant medicines, uh, fit into the same receptors, uh, serotonin and melatonin, and they tweak the brain to fire in a different way, which gives us an altered perception from outside of ourselves.

    13. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    14. JD

      Which for a lot of people we need that.

    15. LH

      Step away from where you're at to-

    16. JD

      You're, you're, you're just seeing reality from a different dimension.

    17. LH

      Yes.

    18. JD

      You're not, you're not seeing it from you. You're seeing it from a different place. And, and for some people that journey is painful, and it creates nausea and vomiting and, you know, and the, some people kind of wind up g- g- getting really trapped, and other people have really profound experiences, right? So if the person has the transcendental experience from the plant medicine, my most fundamental important question for them is what are you gonna do with that?

    19. LH

      Right.

    20. JD

      Is that gonna change your lack? Is that gonna change your f- your life? If, if that insight somehow causes you to act on it, 'cause it changes your perception of the world, and it truly causes you to be whatever it is, whatever the d- the, whatever the experience is, to, to take that peace with you- And use it in some way. That's great. But for many people, insight never changes behavior.

    21. LH

      Mm.

    22. JD

      Now, you can understand that your father was overbearing. You could understand that, that Saturn is in the wrong house, you know, you can... All of that stuff. You could understand that, y- you know, that there's a, there's a chemical imbalance in your brain. None of that. N- You could understand all kinds of things, but that won't really change your life.

    23. LH

      Mm.

    24. JD

      Really, it doesn't really change your life. So there are people who have done 65 ayahuasca sessions because they have cancer, and the cancer hasn't changed. My advice to them is to try something else.

    25. LH

      Right. [laughs]

    26. JD

      Right? Just come on. Oh, come on.

    27. LH

      Yeah, yeah.

    28. JD

      Like, let's, s- just, just let's make a different move here.

    29. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    30. JD

      So, so my concern is, is that this is human nature. Everybody has this, you know. You take a, something and it makes pain go away. You take something, and it gives you an altered perception of whatever. You notice that you got a change in your body. You remember what caused it, and so every time you feel that whatever, you remember to do that, right? So now you got a dependency on something outside of you, so-

  9. 38:25 – 41:42

    Fears, Age and Advice to Lighten Up

    1. LH

      What is the, uh, the biggest fear you have moving forward?

    2. JD

      Um, I really don't really have a whole lot of fears in moving forward. I feel really good about my team. I feel really good about our research.

    3. LH

      Yeah.

    4. JD

      I feel really good about the way we run events. I mean, I've al- always, you know, we, there's always growth pains, you know? And-

    5. LH

      Mm-hmm

    6. JD

      ... you know, we, we outgrow things, and we have to do things different, you know, differently. Um-

    7. LH

      Do you have any personal fears?

    8. JD

      No, I just wanna stay healthy-

    9. LH

      Yeah

    10. JD

      ... enough to be able to continue to do this. I'd love to get some, uh, people, uh, that I trust to be able to help me do some of this, you know, on the stage a little bit more.

    11. LH

      Sure, sure.

    12. JD

      Um, and I really wanna make this work not about me.

    13. LH

      Right.

    14. JD

      I never want it to be about me.

    15. LH

      That's the key. Yeah, yeah.

    16. JD

      I want it to be about you, you know?

    17. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    18. JD

      And, and I, and I do really, you know, I do my best to try to be the example-

    19. LH

      Sure

    20. JD

      ... of everything that I teach.

    21. LH

      Is your, uh, is your age out there public?

    22. JD

      I think so. [laughs]

    23. LH

      [laughs] How, how, how old are you now though?

    24. JD

      My body's 60 years old.

    25. LH

      Your bo- your body's 60?

    26. JD

      Yeah.

    27. LH

      What's your mind?

    28. JD

      Oh, gosh, I think I have a pretty good young mind. [laughs]

    29. LH

      [laughs] Your body's 60?

    30. JD

      Yeah.

  10. 41:42 – 45:22

    Study, Assign Meaning and Go All In

    1. JD

      but, but w- I think it's so important for people to be curious. Like, when I'm wondering, like, I'm really wondering-

    2. LH

      Mm

    3. JD

      ... like, what would it be like-

    4. LH

      Mm

    5. JD

      ... to have this experience? And I really, really go down the rabbit hole with it.

    6. LH

      Yeah.

    7. JD

      I love that, right?

    8. LH

      That's cool.

    9. JD

      'Cause then, and if I don't, if I come to a certain point and I don't know what happens next, I'm gonna go look it up. I'm not gonna get on social media and say, "Does anybody know anything about... " I'm not gonna do that.

    10. LH

      Research. Yeah.

    11. JD

      I'm gonna, I'm gonna own it. I'm gonna own that content so that when I sit down to actually create that experience, I have enough information to believe it's possible, right?

    12. LH

      Sure, sure.

    13. JD

      So, so- I think when nothing is left to conjecture, when nothing's left to superstition, when nothing's left to dogma and people know exactly what they're doing and why they're doing it, the how gets so instrumental-

    14. LH

      Mm

    15. JD

      ... because we assign meaning to it. Here's an example. You can take a person and put them in an ice bath.

    16. LH

      Mm.

    17. JD

      They know nothing about anything. They get in an ice bath. In a minute they're gonna be in hypothermia, and that ice bath is gonna be really bad for them.

    18. LH

      Yes.

    19. JD

      Take that same person, teach them a few things, have them assign meaning to it, f- make them look for the value in it, put them back in the ice bath, turn on the prefrontal cortex, and the prefrontal cortex will silence all the circuits in the brain that say it's bad for you, and now you'll get value out of it. It's the same thing [laughs] . You know, it's the same exact thing.

    20. LH

      Right. Right.

    21. JD

      So, so assign meaning to the act of creation, right? Like, I'm never gonna stop learning-

    22. LH

      Wow

    23. JD

      ... about that because those are more tools, raw- more raw material. So I always say to people, "You wanna be healthy? You wanna be wealthy? Re- study."

    24. LH

      Yeah.

    25. JD

      Get it, get real.

    26. LH

      Learn.

    27. JD

      Get real with the process.

    28. LH

      Mm.

    29. JD

      So you wanna become a mystic? Study the mystics. You know, I mean, read about them.

    30. LH

      Yeah.

  11. 45:22 – 49:38

    Be the Example: Closing Message

    1. LH

      Oh, man. Every time you come on, I'm, I'm inspired. Um, I'm, I'm remembering so much about my future, which I love, 'cause I think a lot of us are remembering our past and not our futures.

    2. JD

      Yeah. Yeah.

    3. LH

      Which I love that statement that you share.

    4. JD

      Yeah. Yeah.

    5. LH

      Um, and it just gives me so much more hope of what's possible for people.

    6. JD

      Yeah.

    7. LH

      And so many people have been messaging me from the last interview saying, "I went to his event. It's transformed my life," all these different things. And I want everyone to go to drjoedispenza.com and sign up for your, your, you know, website, your newsletter. Get on the list, so, because when your events happen every month, they sell out within, like, minutes or an hour.

    8. JD

      Yeah. Yeah.

    9. LH

      So I want people to have access to it. Your books are incredible. They're incredible. Your meditation is, I think it's a must that people should at least explore and try. I love the morning and evening one. Uh, there's so many incredible free resources. All the research that you guys are doing is also, I believe, up on the website-

    10. JD

      Mm-hmm

    11. LH

      ... with all the different research that's available now.

    12. JD

      Yeah, yeah. Of course. There's a ton of scientific research.

    13. LH

      All the testimonials. Yeah. Everything that you guys wanna see is up at drjoedispenza.com. Your social media is great, obviously, so make sure to follow you on social media. How can we be of best support to you right now for this next year before we get you back on in a year? [laughs]

    14. JD

      [laughs] Be the example that you ... Be the example.

    15. LH

      Yeah.

    16. JD

      I mean, show the world what greatness looks like. Show the world what love looks like. Show the world what patience looks like. Show the world what leadership looks like. Show the world so that you can give people permission to say, "Wow, something's different about you."

    17. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    18. JD

      Like, what is it?

    19. LH

      I want something. I want that.

    20. JD

      What is that?

    21. LH

      Yeah.

    22. JD

      What is ... Don't go around telling people you need to shorten-

    23. LH

      Uh-huh

    24. JD

      ... you know, get, you need to be, forgive your father. You need to shorten your emotional response. Don't do that. Show the world what it looks like so they say, "What is it?"

    25. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    26. JD

      "What is it about you that's different?"

    27. LH

      Yeah.

    28. JD

      Or the, you show up and you're no longer matching the memory they have of you, like-

    29. LH

      Who is this person? Yeah

    30. JD

      ... yeah, what happened to you?

  12. 49:38 – 52:22

    How Trauma Becomes Biology and How Fast It Can Heal

    1. JD

      you.

    2. LH

      If you enjoyed that interview, then I know you'll love what we have coming up right now. How quickly can we heal something that's been inside of our body, inside of our mindset for decades that we've never let go of?

    3. JD

      Yeah.

    4. LH

      And it's, and it's a part of us. How quick are we able to do that, uh, from past trauma?

    5. JD

      Yeah. Well, here's the deal with trauma, and it's kind of an interesting thing because when you're traumatized, some threat or some danger or some condition in your outer world through your senses is changing how you feel in your inner world. And the quotient of change between the way you normally feel in some alarm state, when you change your internal state and move into that emergency mode, you narrow your focus on the cause, and the brain freezes an image and takes a snapshot, and that's called the long-term memory. And now that image is branded holographically into the brain. So then they remember ex- we, we remember experiences better because we can remember how they feel and, and that memory then changes the person's biology. So they think neurologically within the circuits of that experience, and they feel chemically within the boundaries of those emotions. And how we think and feel becomes our state of being.

    6. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    7. JD

      So, so now the person biologically is changed, and many times it's the strong emotion that begins to select and instruct the gene that creates disease. Why?

    8. LH

      Yeah.

    9. JD

      Because if the environment signals the gene, and that's the truth, that's epigenetics, and the end product of an experience in the environment is an emotion, the emotion that you feel from that event is literally selecting the gene-

    10. LH

      Gosh, it's crazy

    11. JD

      ... for you to begin to change. And genes make proteins. And so the, the person, if it's, if it's strong enough, begins to wear their trauma, not just in their brain. Now it's in their body because every time they think about that trauma, every time they review it, every time they keep creating the imagery, they keep firing and wiring the circuits in their brain, and they keep feeling the feeling emotionally in their body. And their body is so objective that it's believing it's living in the same past experience 50 to 100 times a day.

    12. LH

      Mm.

    13. JD

      And all you need is a stimulus and a response, an image and a, an emotion, a thought and a feeling, and you're conditioning the body into the past. Well, you're conditioning the brain and body into the past.

    14. LH

      And it doesn't matter if the actual event happened to you or not because if you have the image, what I'm hearing you say, it's still gonna connect to the body. So, like, what's happening right now is people are consuming probably more than 50, 100 pieces of media talking about trauma in the world right now.

    15. JD

      Right.

    16. LH

      That ... Is that causing more physical damage on our bodies without actually having it physically hurt us?

  13. 52:22 – 1:03:03

    Emergency Mode, the Immune System and the Thymus

    1. JD

      Well, let me finish the thought and then-

    2. LH

      Yeah, let's go ahead

    3. JD

      ... I can answer that question.

    4. LH

      This is mind-blowing.

    5. JD

      So then you asked if is it possible then can, that people can heal that quickly in one week? Yeah, because what if they create an inner event that carries an amplitude of gratitude or joy or freedom, breakthrough from the chains of the past? And when the body is liberated and you feel that elevated emotion, the stronger the emotion you feel from that breakthrough, the more you're gonna pay attention to the image in your mind. And now you're now beginning to brand new circuitry in the brain, and your body's being conditioned into a new future. And the stronger the emotion you feel and the more you pay attention to the picture, the more you're conditioning the body over time to the future instead of the past. So now you keep knocking on that genetic door emotionally, then that emotion ultimately signals a new gene that up- upregulates that gene to produce better proteins, and the person then all of a sudden starts healing. And we have research to show that people can do that in four days, signal genes to reduce cancer cells and grow-

    6. LH

      Wow

    7. JD

      ... to, to signal stem cells to, to suppress, um, uh, to go to active tissues and repair them and regenerate them and suppress, uh, inflammation. The ... We have research to show that you could change the number of brain cells you have just by, by doing this properly. And so now all of a sudden, the person starts changing.

    8. LH

      So four, in four day, in four days-

    9. JD

      In four days, yeah

    10. LH

      ... you can start to reverse some of the damage you've done in your body, uh, depending on the degree of damage it sounds like, but in four days by simply replacing the imagery, the visualization, the acknowledgement to a different emotion, an emotion of joy, gratitude, peace, perspective, acceptance. I'm assuming these things.

    11. JD

      A vision of your future. A vision of your fu-

    12. LH

      A vision of what you want that's positive-

    13. JD

      In your future

    14. LH

      ... as opposed to a vision that is tied to a negative event of the past over and over every single moment of the day.

    15. JD

      Right. Right.

    16. LH

      Your body will start to heal, your immune system will start to heal, and you'll start to get... You'll start to shift your genes?

    17. JD

      Gene expression, absolutely.

    18. LH

      Gene ex- what's the difference between gene expression and just genes?

    19. JD

      Well, you know, you come with a lot of genes, and they're just a library of potentials. They're just a storehouse of information, of possibilities. So then you gotta get the right [clears throat] signal, the right lock into the key that begins to select and instruct genes that cause genes to make different proteins. And you can regulate so many different genes. The same genes, you can regulate them differently. So when they up-regulate, they start producing really healthy and robust proteins, and that's, that's enzymes, that's tissue, that's structure, that's function, that's hormones, uh, it's immune, immunoglobulins. When they down-regulate because of some alarm when there's not a lot of energy for long-term building projects, well, then you keep doing that, then the body starts producing cheaper proteins. It's a different signal. It's not a time for growth. And so-

    20. LH

      Hmm.

    21. JD

      And so now to answer your other question-

    22. LH

      Yes

    23. JD

      ... then, then it makes sense then that if you have been in experienced, uh, if you had experience of trauma, say, for example, and it's created the feeling of fear, and your fear is that it could happen again. And you're, you don't know this, but every time you think about that future, that pr- possible worst case scenario, scenario, and you feel the emotion, you're conditioning your body to become the mind subconsciously of anxiety. So now all, all you need now is some cue in your outer environment that says it's unsafe, that if there's damage there, that you're, you are a victim. Something's bigger than you that could have an effect on you. Well, now that feeling of fear is gonna cause you to think thoughts equal to it. So the person then no longer needs the environment to feel that fear. They just have to have the thought about that condition now, and now [laughs] they're literally knocking their brain and body out of balance by thought alone, and the body's constantly living in emergency mode. And it takes a lot of energy-

    24. LH

      I know

    25. JD

      ... a lot of resources to live in emergency mode all the time.

    26. LH

      All the time.

    27. JD

      And guess what system becomes compromised by it?

    28. LH

      Immune system.

    29. JD

      Your immune system. Why? Because you have two protection systems.

    30. LH

      Yeah.

  14. 1:03:03 – 1:11:52

    The Formula: Moving Beyond Body, Environment and Time

    1. LH

      How do we change our energy and how do we sustain it for extended period of time? How long does that time need to be until we really start to see-

    2. JD

      Sometimes immediate. Okay, so, so our research, and we've done, uh, in the last six years, uh, because we were seeing so many incredible, incredible things going on in our workshops. I mean, people stepping out of wheelchairs and all kinds of crazy things. I-

    3. LH

      You're like a church.

    4. JD

      W- well, kind of like, well-

    5. LH

      Like a church. Like a mega church, yeah.

    6. JD

      [laughs] But hopefully not that-

    7. LH

      Based in science.

    8. JD

      Yeah. But, but, but-

    9. LH

      But isn't it amazing that some of these churches, when g- people get to believe, whether they have science backing it or not-

    10. JD

      They just-

    11. LH

      ... it's the belief in the mind-

    12. JD

      They step out into the unknown

    13. LH

      ... and you can step out of your body-

    14. JD

      Yeah, yeah

    15. LH

      ... and, and heal yourself, right?

    16. JD

      In- instantaneouslY. Instantaneously.

    17. LH

      And we do see that a lot, and some people are like, "Ah, that's..."

    18. JD

      Yeah.

    19. LH

      "How can that be possible?"

    20. JD

      Well, how can it be possible? Well, look, we've, we've as- I've-

    21. LH

      You've done the research now to back it

    22. JD

      ... I've assembled a team of scientists.

    23. LH

      Yeah.

    24. JD

      We've done 8,500 brain scans. I can tell you, I can tell you when a person's about ready to change. I can tell you why people-

    25. LH

      Really?

    26. JD

      ... don't change. I can tell you what it takes to change.

    27. LH

      So what's it take to change?

    28. JD

      Well, you change... Most people keep their attention, always their awareness on their body.

    29. LH

      Yeah.

    30. JD

      They keep their attention on everything in their environment.

  15. 1:11:52 – 1:36:34

    Heart Coherence, Anxiety and Creating the Future

    1. JD

      So then to teach a person then how to regulate that heart center, and we do this, uh, we've done 6,000 heart scans. Why? Because if I can teach you how to get in that heart state, and I can teach you how to activate that center, and I can teach you how to regulate an elevated emotion-

    2. LH

      Mm

    3. JD

      ... the heart starts to create a very coherent signature. And when the heart starts beating like a drum, like dropping a pebble in water, it begins to produce-

    4. LH

      Mm

    5. JD

      ... a measurable magnetic field up to three meters wide. Now you're more energy than matter, more wave than particle.

    6. LH

      Wow.

    7. JD

      Now, that field that's being created is measurable, and that's an energy. And energy is frequency, and all frequency carries information. So what is the information when it makes it here? It c-

    8. LH

      That you're sharing into the world. Yeah.

    9. JD

      It could carry the thought of your healing. Why? Because it's consistent with the energy. Guilt isn't gonna carry the thought of your healing. It's a different frequency. And all of a sudden now, the person is elevating their emotional state, and they're allowing their thought to be carried on that frequency. They're broadcasting a whole new energetic signature. But thoughts are the language of the brain, and feelings are the language of the body, and how you think and how you feel creates your state of being.

    10. LH

      Mm.

    11. JD

      So then the question is, if you keep practicing creating that state of being, it should become familiar to you. Yes or no?

    12. LH

      Yes.

    13. JD

      The word meditation literally means to become familiar with.

    14. LH

      Mm.

    15. JD

      So then if you're practicing moving into these elevated states, and your heart is coherent, and we're measuring and I can say, "Lewis, you got it. Now do it for 30 minutes."

    16. LH

      Mm.

    17. JD

      "Now do it for 60 minutes." And you practice creating that coherence. You'll know when you're there and when you're not. Yes or no?

    18. LH

      Sure.

    19. JD

      And then you would be able to say, like a skill, like anything else, "Give me a minute. I'm gonna step out," and you're gonna go back into heart coherence and bring up that state. Now-

    20. LH

      How do we get there in the heart?

    21. JD

      Oh, well, then we practice the formula. Again, rest your attention.

    22. LH

      Sure, sure.

    23. JD

      Start calling up elevated emotions, and when you start seeing that that starts happening, then you sustain it, and you keep practicing. And all of a sudden, it gets longer and longer and longer. Now, what's the relevance behind that? Well, we've measured neurotransmitters. So when a person actually activates their heart, the heart releases a chemical called an, uh, oxytocin. Oxytocin is actually the love chemical. Now, oxytocin signals nitric oxide. Nitric oxide signals another chemical called endothelial-derived relaxing factor. What does that do? Causes the vessels in your heart to swell.

    24. LH

      Wow.

    25. JD

      You will literally have energy in your heart. You will literally feel like your heart is full. Now, now, once you have that feeling, you're not gonna wanna trade that feeling for anyone-

    26. LH

      No

    27. JD

      ... or anything. You're gonna say, "Why would I judge that person? If I judge that person, I'm gonna lose this feeling." Now, all of a sudden, you're self-regulating. Now, once the heart-

    28. LH

      Mm

    29. JD

      ... is activated, I just was at the research lab this week. Once the heart is activated, it acts as an amplifier, and it a- a- amplifies energy in the brain. So once you start opening that heart, and it begins to signal the brain, you're going to suppress the survival centers. In fact, the research shows it will reset your baseline. In other words, if you're anxious and vigilant, and you learn how to self-regulate, you'll actually reset the baseline, and you'll say, "Well, that trauma was 15 years ago. I saw my, uh, somebody get murdered," or whatever. And then we'll say, "Yeah, yeah, yeah." But the moment the heart, not the brain, it's the heart that actually resets the amygdala. And all of a sudden, the person all of a sudden switches down, and all of a sudden they're like, "I'm, I just don't have anxiety." We have-

    30. LH

      Mm

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