"Use This FORMULA To Achieve ANYTHING YOU WANT!" | Dr Joe Dispenza & Lewis Howes

Dr. Joe Dispenza 0:00 If you're living by those elevated states and you know how to feel that emotion of your future before it happens, you're less likely to wait for it to happen because you'll feel like it already happened. And when you get good at it, no person, no thing, no experience can take it away from you.

Lewis Howes 0:15 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 0:15 Now, you're empowered. And if you understand the laws of how creation happens, then you're less likely to compete and rush to get what you want. You're gonna know that it's gonna come to you, and now that's the new model of how we create. [upbeat music]

Lewis Howes 0:44 Welcome everyone to the School of Greatness podcast. We have the legendary Dr. Joe Dispenza-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 0:48 [laughs]

Lewis Howes 0:48 ... in the house. Good to see you, sir.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 0:49 Good to see you, Lewis. Thank you.

Lewis Howes 0:50 Excited about this. Um, I think I first learned about you in What the Bleep. That was years ago, right?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 0:56 Mm-hmm. Yeah, that was over 10 years ago.

Lewis Howes 0:57 10 years ago.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 0:58 Yeah.

Lewis Howes 0:58 It was... And that was the, correct me if I'm wrong, that was the movie, documentary movie where they talked about that, uh, science experiment with the water, right?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:08 Mm-hmm.

Lewis Howes 1:08 Is that the same movie?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:09 Yeah, that's the same movie, yeah.

Lewis Howes 1:11 And what was that whole theory and, and methodology? What was that about?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:15 Well, just water has a very interesting, um, response to thought, and, uh, the properties of water make it very unusual. It turns out that when you, um, hold a thought that is more constructive or more coherent, that it crystallizes water into certain patterns like snowflakes. And those particular crystals actually are the exact way chemicals enter the receptor sites of cells. When you're feeling, uh, limited emotions of anger or frustration or impatience or resentment, uh, the signature electromagnetically, you know, the, every thought has a frequency, uh, is disturbing. So it actually weakens the molecular structure of water, and you see these, uh, very unhealthy patterns. So-

Lewis Howes 2:00 Therefore weakening the body.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 2:01 Well, the body's 78% water, so you start thinking about how you start managing your thoughts and feelings. And, uh, water's just a great way to store information, and that's all it is.

Lewis Howes 2:11 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 2:12 Yeah, yeah.

Lewis Howes 2:13 Huh.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 2:13 But there was a lot more in the movie besides that. [laughs]

Lewis Howes 2:15 Yeah, yeah. That was the thing I remember the most.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 2:16 Yeah, a lot of people remember the water, yeah.

Lewis Howes 2:17 That was interesting. Now, you've been working with teaching people how to heal themselves with their minds, right?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 2:24 Mm-hmm.

Lewis Howes 2:24 Overcome disease, overcome-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 2:25 Mm-hmm

Lewis Howes 2:25 ... any type of chronic illness or pain-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 2:28 Mm-hmm

Lewis Howes 2:28 ... through the mind.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 2:29 Mm-hmm, yeah.

Lewis Howes 2:29 The principle of the mind.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 2:30 Mm-hmm.

Lewis Howes 2:31 I grew up in a religion called Christian Science-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 2:33 Mm-hmm

Lewis Howes 2:34 ... that did not use medicine. I didn't get vaccinations when I was a kid. My dad wouldn't let me go to the hospital. He wanted to use thought-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 2:43 Mm-hmm

Lewis Howes 2:43 ... prayer-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 2:43 Mm-hmm

Lewis Howes 2:44 ... the mindset to overcome any pain or any physical ailment.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 2:47 Mm-hmm.

Lewis Howes 2:48 And so this is something that I was learning in a different way as an early kid.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 2:53 Mm-hmm.

Lewis Howes 2:53 When did you start to learn about this philosophy or principle or truth and start applying it to your life?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 3:00 Well, I got run over by a truck in a triathlon in 1986 on a biking portion of the race. I broke, uh, six vertebrae in my spine, and I was told that I'd never walk again. And, uh, so the typical, uh, surgical procedure for multiple compression fractures with, uh, cord impingement is, uh, this, uh, surgery called Harrington rod surgery. And in my case, they were gonna cut off the backs of, of parts of my vertebrae from the base of my neck to the base of my spine, and then they sh- screw in these long stainless steel rods. And when you screw those rods in into the vertebrae, uh, acts like, like cantilever. It lifts the spinal column off the cord.

Lewis Howes 3:35 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 3:35 Uh, but the prognosis was I probably wouldn't walk again, and, um, and that the surgery was, uh, was hopeful that it would give me some relief. And, and, uh, I think if it was any other patient, Lewis, besides me, I probably would've recommended the surgery, but this was me, you know?

Lewis Howes 3:50 Sure.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 3:50 And I just couldn't rush into it.

Lewis Howes 3:52 [laughs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 3:52 So I had four opinions, you know, from four of the leading surgeons in Southern California, and they were adamant that I needed this surgery.

Lewis Howes 3:58 All four of them.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 3:59 All four of them. Yeah. In fact, the, the medical director of Scripps Hospital at the time was my, was my surgeon, and he was, he thought I had a head injury, or he thought, you know, that I had PTSD, that I wasn't just following his instruction. Anyway, I decided against the surgery, and I thought, "Well, listen, I'm not going anywhere. I'm not doing anything. I'm basically laying face down." And I, so I thought, "Well, there's an intelligence that's giving us life, that's keeping our heart beating and digesting our food. It, it, it really knows how to heal way better than me, and this innate intelligence is what's giving us life." And I thought, "Well, if it's an intelligence, it's, it's a consciousness."

Lewis Howes 4:36 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 4:36 "And consciousness is awareness, and awareness is paying attention, so it must be paying attention to me." So I said, "Look, maybe I'll just spend the rest of my time trying to connect to this intelligence and give it a plan, give it a design, give it a template. And when I was really present and complete with that design, I would surrender this creation to this greater mind and allow it to do the healing for me." And the other thing I said is, "I'm not gonna let any thought slip by my awareness that I don't want to experience." Now, that sounds really easy-

Lewis Howes 5:04 Mm. Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 5:05 ... right? When, when-

Lewis Howes 5:06 It's really hard

Dr. Joe Dispenza 5:06 ... but when you're faced with crisis or trauma, uh, we tend to focus on what we don't wanna have happen instead of what we do ha- wanna have happen. So I started on this journey. I decided against the surgery, and, um, it was a, a big revolution at the time, and, uh, I went through six and a half weeks of hell. I just could not get my mind to do what I wanted it to do, 'cause I'd start reconstructing my vertebrae and imaging an outcome, and then I'd start thinking, "Am I gonna be living in a wheelchair?"

Lewis Howes 5:32 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 5:32 "Or when should I sell my practice?"

Lewis Howes 5:33 So you were thinking about the way you wanted your body to look and feel in your mind.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 5:37 I, I reconstructed every single vertebra.

Lewis Howes 5:39 In the mind.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 5:40 Yeah, in my mind.

Lewis Howes 5:40 You were imagining.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 5:40 I wanted to show it, exactly, three-dimensionally. Yeah.

Lewis Howes 5:43 In your mind.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 5:43 In my mind.

Lewis Howes 5:44 You're not drawing it out or anything.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 5:45 No, no, no. In my mind, I was reconstructing.

Lewis Howes 5:46 You're visualizing it the whole time.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 5:48 Yeah, visualizing it.

Lewis Howes 5:48 Okay.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 5:48 And I wanted to say, "Look, take a look at that." 'Cause this intelligence is always present, right? So we gotta be present with it. So I'd start off reconstructing my spine, and then I'd be like, "Oh, gosh, um, should I sell my practice? What if I live in a wheelchair?"

Lewis Howes 6:01 And your practice is chiropractic-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 6:02 Yeah, yeah

Lewis Howes 6:02 ... practice this time? Yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 6:03 Yeah, in, in Southern California, La Jolla. So, uh, I couldn't get my mind to do what I wanted it to do, and then after six weeks, I just went through the whole thing, and I felt like I hit a golf ball right in the sweet spot. Something clicked. And from that point forward, what took me two and a half or three hours to do, I was able to do in 45 minutes. I was firing and wiring, you know, these new circuits, and I was practicing paying attention. And then all of a sudden, I started noticing dramatic changes in my health like this, [fingers snapping] . And the moment I started noticing changes in my body, what was going on outside of me, and I started correlating it, what I was doing inside of me. Now I was just hooked, and I just started doing it with more passion and more sincerity. Anyway, back on my feet in 10 and a half weeks, back training at 12 weeks, back in my clinic. And, um-

Lewis Howes 6:47 Wow

Dr. Joe Dispenza 6:47 ... and I just made a deal with myself that if I was ever able to walk again, I'd spend the rest of my life studying the mind-body connection and mind over matter. And then that led me to just stop everything in my life. I just wasn't the same guy. I'd just been initiated into something. And sold my practice, sold my home.

Lewis Howes 7:03 You sold it all.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 7:04 Sold it all, moved to the Northwest, and, uh, just started asking bigger questions like, "Who am I? What is... Why, why am I here? Or what, what are we doing? Or what happens when we die? And how did, how did all this happen for me? What, what, what was the process?" I started studying the, the science behind it, and I couldn't find it in any conventional textbooks because this was unconventional, right? And miraculous is kind of unconventional. So I started studying quantum physics and neuroscience and, uh, epigenetics, and it started making sense. I started building this model of understanding. Then I asked the fundamental question, "Has anybody else done it?" So then I traveled to 17 different countries and interviewed-

Lewis Howes 7:40 Wow

Dr. Joe Dispenza 7:41 ... hundreds and hundreds of people with, uh, serious health conditions that were treating either conventionally or unconventionally, and they were staying the same or getting worse, and all of a sudden they got better. So what was the cause that produced the effect, you know? And the stories and what I learned was so amazing. I went back to school and studied neuroscience because mind was such a strong element. It wasn't diet. It wasn't celibacy. It wasn't d- any of those things.

Lewis Howes 8:06 Hmm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 8:06 It was just really this element. And so then I was able to figure out that there were four common things. And then I wrote a book about it, and then I thought, "God, if this works really on people that were sick and are better, and they come from all walks of life, all colors, all races, all genders, uh, pr- sexual preferences," but all of a sudden, I wanted to see if I was able to reproduce it. So then I started seeing, okay, let's see if we can teach this.

Lewis Howes 8:34 Hmm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 8:34 Be able to reproduce the outcome, 'cause that's science, right? So we went through about-

Lewis Howes 8:38 What were the four common things?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 8:40 Uh, the first one was that they're, they all believed and accepted that there was an intelligence that lived within them-

Lewis Howes 8:45 Mm-hmm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 8:45 ... that was giving them life. And then-

Lewis Howes 8:47 These, these people you interviewed who had had injuries that overcame them?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 8:50 No, no, these were people with, with cancer, MS, lupus-

Lewis Howes 8:53 Gotcha

Dr. Joe Dispenza 8:53 ... Parkinson's disease.

Lewis Howes 8:54 Who got better?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 8:55 Yeah, just spontaneously. You know, it's called a spontaneous remission.

Lewis Howes 8:58 Got it.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 8:58 So I was-

Lewis Howes 8:59 So they, they believed there was an intelligence.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 9:00 There was some invisible life force that was, they were connected to.

Lewis Howes 9:03 Hmm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 9:04 That they felt like they had lost their connection to. They became separate and disconnected from. And that when they got the diagnosis, they woke up and said, "Man, I gotta connect again, and I gotta connect to my essence." Uh, and so they-

Lewis Howes 9:17 Wow

Dr. Joe Dispenza 9:17 ... developed a relationship with it, just like you develop a relationship with anybody. It takes time. You gotta be present. You gotta connect. You gotta experience. Uh, you gotta be present. All of these things are-

Lewis Howes 9:27 Hmm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 9:27 ... important elements. So, so that was the first thing. Um,

Dr. Joe Dispenza 9:31 the second thing was that they realized that it was the mismanagement of their emotions and the hormones of stress that really began to create their condition. Now, now stress is when your brain and body are knocked out of balance. Uh, stress, uh, is when your body's knocked out of homeostasis. We have an innate mechanism in our body that returns us back to order. So then if you're, someone cuts you off on the LA freeway, you have a, a emotional reaction, but 15 minutes later, you're back to driving, and you're over it, right? That's, uh, all organisms in nature can tolerate short-term stress, emergency.

Lewis Howes 10:04 But when it's all day long, all week, all year.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 10:06 Yeah, so if you're reacting to, like a Tyrannosaurus rex is chasing you, uh, you have to make a decision. Am I gonna use 20% of my energy? Am I gonna use 100%? So it turns out-

Lewis Howes 10:15 Yeah

Dr. Joe Dispenza 10:15 ... when you're reacting to traffic-

Lewis Howes 10:17 100, 200% [laughs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 10:18 Right, or if you're reacting to your coworker sitting in the cubicle next to you.

Lewis Howes 10:21 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 10:21 You're, you're turning on that response, and what was once very adaptive becomes very maladaptive. 'Cause when you turn on the stress response, and you can't turn it off, now you're headed for disease.

Lewis Howes 10:31 Hmm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 10:31 'Cause nobody can live in emergency mode for that extended period of time. Well, human beings, we can turn on the stress response just by thought alone. You can think about your problems, and you're producing the same biological effects. So those chemicals give the brain and body a rush of energy, and people become addicted to that rush of energy. So now they use the problems and conditions in their life to reaffirm their addiction to that emotion. They need the bad job.

Lewis Howes 10:56 Hmm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 10:56 They need the poor relationship. So that means they become addicted to the life that they don't even like, right?

Lewis Howes 11:01 Why do we, why do we need the bad job or bad relationship and stay stuck in those?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 11:05 Be- because it's a conditioned response. So listen, if you get angry at a coworker, and all of a sudden you get an arousal in your brain and body, right? You get a rush of energy. When you start noticing that your body starts dropping, your brain starts noticing your energy starts dropping, you're automatically going to have the image of the coworker in order to what? Give your body the, the next-

Lewis Howes 11:29 The jolt. Yeah

Dr. Joe Dispenza 11:29 ... the jolt, right? So all of a sudden, people become addicted to their own thoughts, right? So these people realize that, "Oh my God, um, I, I, I've been mismanaging my attention and energy, and I gotta, I gotta get beyond my past. I gotta get beyond these emotions. I gotta make some big changes. I gotta break the habit of being myself, you know?

Lewis Howes 11:49 Hmm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 11:49 I gotta stop being this person." Now, that sounds really good theoretically and philosophically, but change is such a hard thing.

Lewis Howes 11:57 Really hard.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 11:57 Right? Because the moment you come back to your senses and you step back into your life and you see that person, or you go to that place, or you're with that, uh, experience, so many people are unconsciously reacting in their thoughts and feelings to everything in their environment. So now their environment is controlling how they think and feel. So they realize that in order to change-

Lewis Howes 12:20 You gotta change the environment

Dr. Joe Dispenza 12:20 ... they gotta be greater than their environment.

Lewis Howes 12:22 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 12:22 Greater than the conditions in the world, greater than the circumstances in their life.

Lewis Howes 12:25 And be mindful of that every time it comes up-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 12:27 Stay conscious

Lewis Howes 12:27 ... to be like-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 12:28 Yes, yeah

Lewis Howes 12:28 ... "Okay, I'm gonna think differently."

Dr. Joe Dispenza 12:29 Right.

Lewis Howes 12:29 "I'm not gonna react this way."

Dr. Joe Dispenza 12:30 Yeah, right. I'm not gonna go back. I'm not gonna go back. Because the moment you start reacting emo- emotionally, emotions are a record of the past, and if those emotions are driving your thoughts, you're thinking in the past. And if you can't think greater than how you feel, and you believe your thoughts have something to do with your destiny, you're creating more of your past, right? So it turns out that the repetition of thinking and feeling, and feeling and thinking, these loops that people get caught in, condition their body to subconsciously become the mind of that emotion. Which means now their body as their unconscious mind is believing they're living in the same past experience 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year. What's the relevance behind that? Well, the latest research on genes says genes don't create disease. It's the environment that signals the gene that creates disease.

Lewis Howes 13:18 The emotional environment or the physical environment?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 13:20 Your environment, any environmental reaction. But if you're reacting emotionally to your environment the same way, you're signaling the same gene in the same way-

Lewis Howes 13:29 Right

Dr. Joe Dispenza 13:29 ... and now you're headed for a genetic destiny. So-

Lewis Howes 13:32 Huh

Dr. Joe Dispenza 13:32 ... the hormones of stress push the genetic buttons that create disease. If you can turn on the stress response just by thought alone, your thoughts can make you sick. And if your thoughts can make you sick, is it possible that your thoughts can make you well?

Lewis Howes 13:45 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 13:45 So they began to realize that, oh, my God, the repetition of thinking and feeling, and feeling and thinking, caused me to feel guilt, and I don't even know it's guilt. It just feels like me. It's just I'm used to the same chemical continuity. Now, the moment they decided to change, any time you decide to change and change anything about yourself, get ready, 'cause it's going to feel uncomfortable.

Lewis Howes 14:04 It's gonna hurt.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 14:05 You're, you're gonna leave the known.

Lewis Howes 14:06 Yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 14:06 You're gonna leave the familiar, and you're gonna step into the unknown.

Lewis Howes 14:08 Even if the familiar is uncomfortable and painful-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 14:11 Right

Lewis Howes 14:12 ... you're still gonna be painful leaving the pain.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 14:14 Right, 'cause some people are super happy being unhappy.

Lewis Howes 14:16 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 14:17 So then they would rather cling to their suffering than take a chance on possibility. So these people said, "I really have nothing to lose," right? So then they said, "I'm willing to be uncomfortable and be in the unknown." And it turns out that's the perfect place to create from.

Lewis Howes 14:32 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 14:33 So when the body is conditioned to become the mind, then to change is to be greater than the body, right? Because-

Lewis Howes 14:40 How do we become greater than the body?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 14:41 Well, that's a whole nother conversation.

Lewis Howes 14:43 [laughs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 14:43 But let me finish this.

Lewis Howes 14:44 Yes.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 14:44 Okay? So the third thing they said was, "Okay, so now that I know that I gotta break the habit of being myself, and I can't mismanage my thoughts and feelings, I gotta change how I act. I gotta watch how I speak. I gotta become conscious of how unconscious I am," because 95% of who we are by the time we're 35 years old is a set of memorized behaviors.

Lewis Howes 15:05 Mm-hmm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 15:06 Uh, like a computer program, emotional reactions, unconscious beliefs and perceptions. So the first step to change is to become conscious of how you think, to notice how you act, to pay attention to how you feel, and the act of observing those states of mind and body separates you from that program. Now you're, you're, you're the consciousness observing that program. It turns out the more conscious you become of how unconscious you are, you know, letting a match in a dark place, that first step creates enormous amounts of chaos in the brain and body. And it's disturbing-

Lewis Howes 15:38 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 15:38 ... so people just go back to the same addiction, the same emotion, the same problem. This feels better. No, that feels familiar. So they said-

Lewis Howes 15:44 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 15:44 ... "Okay, now I gotta change. I gotta reinvent myself." Now, this is really important, because they started sitting down and thinking, "Okay, who in history do I admire? Where are great people, role models, that I can follow? What are the qualities and characteristics that they have? How am I gonna change?" You know, they, these are what we call frontal lobe questions. The creative center of the brain switches on, and the emotional center settles down. So then they started thinking-

Lewis Howes 16:11 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 16:11 ... how would I have to be in a new life if I was really going to heal? What would I have to change about myself? Now, there's this interesting phenomenon that if you close your eyes, and you begin to think about doing something, you're an athlete, you understand this. If your, uh, uh, uh, background in football, and you were running a pattern, or you were doing something, you would rehearse it in your mind.

Lewis Howes 16:31 Yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 16:31 Turns out that the act of mentally rehearsing something when you're truly present, your brain does not know the difference-

Lewis Howes 16:39 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 16:39 ... between what's going on out there and what's going on in here. In fact, your brain will begin to look like you've been doing it for the last five days, and you've never run the course.

Lewis Howes 16:48 Hmm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 16:48 So now your brain is no longer a record of the past, because typically it is. Now it's a map to the future.

Lewis Howes 16:54 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 16:54 So now you're priming your brain. So that became the very platform. You know, experiments with piano players, you know, you take a group of people that never played the piano before. You divide them into two different categories. Take one group of people, you teach them one-handed scales and chords. You do a brain scan on them. They come and practice for two hours a day for five days. At the end of five days, if you re-scan the brain, they grow new c- circuits on the opposite side of the brain. Nothing magical there. You learn something new. Learning's making new connections. Get some instruction. You get instruction, you get your body involved. Get your body involved, you're gonna have an experience. Experience enriches the brain. Pay attention to what you're doing. You gotta pay attention and repeat it. Firing and wiring, you're gonna assemble new circuits. You can take the other group of people, have them come for two hours a day for five days, do a brain scan before, the brain scan after, have them close their eyes and mentally rehearse playing those scales and chords. At the end of five days, they'll grow the same amount of circuits in their brain-

Lewis Howes 17:49 Wow

Dr. Joe Dispenza 17:49 ... as the people who actually physically demonstrated the action. What does that mean? It means not only did they change their brain by thinking differently, but their brain looks like they've been playing the piano for five days. Now, set them in front of a piano. Never played the piano before. They'll play those scales and chords because their brain is wired to play it.

Lewis Howes 18:06 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 18:06 So now the act of rehearsing who they're gonna be- What are the qualities? And beginning to get in this creative state began to lay down the circuits of a new personality, and a new personality is connected to a new personal reality. So the next question is-

Lewis Howes 18:21 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 18:21 ... does that change the body? Take a group of men, have them do one-handed, um, curls in their mind, and bring an emotional component like stronger, harder, more intense. One hour today for two weeks. At the end of two weeks, 13.5 increase in muscle strength.

Lewis Howes 18:39 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 18:40 Never lifted a weight. Now their body is changing by thought alone.

Lewis Howes 18:44 Huh.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 18:45 So these people began to reprogram their brain and body, and all of a sudden they began to act differently. Why? Because they installed the circuits. They began to think differently, of course.

Lewis Howes 18:57 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 18:57 They began to feel differently. They, they were no longer feeling pain. They're actually liking themselves, right? So then if they're living by a different emotion and they're, they're feeling an elevated emotion before they're healing, before they were healed. They're not waiting for their healing to feel joy and gratitude. They're feeling gratitude-

Lewis Howes 19:15 Right

Dr. Joe Dispenza 19:15 ... and joy. Now their body's believing that it's healed because the body's feeling the emotion ahead of the experience. And if the environment signals the gene and the end product of an experience in the environment is emotion, you're signaling the gene ahead of the environment. And what do genes do? Genes make proteins. And what are proteins responsible?

Lewis Howes 19:30 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 19:30 The structure and function of the body. Now you're literally becoming somebody else, and now you're turning down the genes for disease and you're turning up these other genes.

Lewis Howes 19:39 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 19:40 So I started to realize that this reinvention process is exactly what we've always done. It's just that we get complacent in certain areas of our life, and we stop. Now, the last thing they had in common, the fourth thing, is that when they were doing that rehearsal process, that they had long moments where they lost track of time and space. In other words, they were so involved in their inner world-

Lewis Howes 20:01 Mm-hmm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 20:01 ... of imaging that when they turned the light on in the room or they lift their blindfold up or whatever they were doing, they thought it was 20 minutes later, and it was an hour and 20 minutes later. And when you're truly focused and you're truly paying attention and you're in the present moment, all of a sudden you will leave this three-dimensional reality.

Lewis Howes 20:21 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 20:21 And when you leave this three-dimensional reality, there's only one other place you go. And that is the realm of thought, and that's called the quantum field. And that quantum field is where all possibilities exist, right? So they were connecting to a field of information that had everything to do with the first principle, which is that invisible intelligence that's both within us and all around us, personal and universal. It is, it is the unifying field that governs everything material in this world.

Lewis Howes 20:46 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 20:47 And if you're gonna ch- change something material, that means you gotta get beyond your body to heal your body.

Lewis Howes 20:52 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 20:52 Because if you're your body trying to heal your body, there's one thing that we can guarantee. It's gonna take time. It's gonna just take a long time, 'cause you're playing by the rules of Newtonian physics. You play by the rules of quantum physics, energy dictates matter.

Lewis Howes 21:04 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 21:04 So when you're truly in the field and you're making changes there, then the downward cascade, neurologically, biologically, chemically, hormonally, genetically, is the side effect of what's doing, what's happening in the field.

Lewis Howes 21:16 It accelerates, yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 21:16 It accelerates it, exactly.

Lewis Howes 21:17 [clears throat]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 21:18 So you, you do it in less time because you're more connected to a realm that doesn't play by time.

Lewis Howes 21:23 This is fascinating because, you know, growing up in this religion that I grew up, it was a constant reminder, a daily practice to think in a certain way.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 21:31 Mm-hmm.

Lewis Howes 21:31 To think that you can never be physically harmed.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 21:34 Mm-hmm.

Lewis Howes 21:34 That you're infinite love, that you're infinite light, you're infinite soul, spirit, life, truth, and love, right?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 21:39 Mm-hmm.

Lewis Howes 21:39 It was, like, constantly taught to me that I'm, that I'm never able to get physically harmed.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 21:46 Mm-hmm.

Lewis Howes 21:47 And that if you are, that means your thought is off, and you just have to re-correct your thought, and you'll have a healing.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 21:53 Mm-hmm.

Lewis Howes 21:53 Right? It's a little extreme for some because ... And if you're not, you know, well-practiced in it, and if you don't know how to really manage the thoughts and train, then you can hurt yourself.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 22:04 Yeah, exactly.

Lewis Howes 22:04 You can really hurt your body and that's, you know, it happened.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 22:07 Yeah.

Lewis Howes 22:07 It happened a few times. Um, but I use this, you know, philosophy, strategy, technique, uh, idea in sports, and I would rehearse constantly, like you talked about.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 22:19 Mm-hmm.

Lewis Howes 22:19 I was constantly rehearsing the games, what I wanted to create for the season, for my, my body, for my life.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 22:25 Mm-hmm.

Lewis Howes 22:26 And it's, it just seemed like it would always happen. You know, I would rehearse constantly over and over and get lost [clears throat] in my thoughts. You called it the quantum field. Is that what you call it?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 22:36 Mm-hmm.

Lewis Howes 22:37 So I was in the quantum field to be on the physical field. I was playing in the quantum field just like I'd be playing on the physical field.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 22:43 Exactly.

Lewis Howes 22:44 And I remember I would watch, um, game film of world record holders in track and field and football and watch them every single night and mentally rehearse the same movements they would have before I would fall asleep. And then I would practice the next day, but I was constantly rehearsing in my mind how I wanted to show up. I was rehearsing this moment.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 23:06 Mm-hmm.

Lewis Howes 23:07 You know, in my life 10 years ago, I was rehearsing what I'd be doing this year in my life.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 23:12 Mm-hmm.

Lewis Howes 23:13 Do you do this on a daily practice for yourself? And if so, how does that rehearsal look like?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 23:17 I do. I do. Um, so, so two things I wanted to say about that. I mean, first of all, this is really not for everybody.

Lewis Howes 23:25 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 23:25 I mean, because it's a ... You gotta be ... It's like pregnancy. Either you are or you're not.

Lewis Howes 23:30 [laughs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 23:30 I mean, I mean, there's no in between.

Lewis Howes 23:32 A little pregnant?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 23:33 You can't be kind of a little pregnant. Either you are or you're not. And so, so you can't-

Lewis Howes 23:36 Who is it for and who's it not for?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 23:38 Yeah. So, so we, what I found is that w- when I started studying spontaneous remissions, it was for people who had reached the end of their emotional belief where there was no longer any answers. They had, the doctors gave up on them. They had nothing else to do, right? And so they changed everything about themselves, and y- some of them were physicians, you know?

Lewis Howes 23:57 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 23:57 It's just going like, "Wow, well, I, what have I, what have I been doing?" But now fast-forward to today. I mean, in an age of information, ignorance is a choice. I mean-

Lewis Howes 24:06 Mm-hmm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 24:06 ... you've got so much information. You don't need a doctor. You don't need a teacher. You don't need a priest or, or a minister to gain information. You don't need an authority, right? You can ... Technology gives us the, uh, very quick information. So now people are informed. 20 years ago, a doctor said to you, "You have this health condition." You believed it. Yeah. And not only that, you signed on the dotted line and you got the treatment or the surgery. Fast-forward to today, everybody just kind of goes, "Wait a second." Need multiple opinions. Yeah. Let me get this. Let me... Or people go home and you research it- Yeah ... and you say, "I wanna try this." So now, all of a sudden, people- Yeah ... are taking their power back. So, so people are more informed, so surgical procedures, pharmaceuticals are not always the first choice for people because there's other ways, and people only do the best with what's available. So now information has scaled and changed the way people face off with health conditions, and now people are coming, uh, into this, uh, number one, if they have a health condition that they can self-correct. And number two, there are people that are saying, "If I'm headed for a genetic destiny because my mother had this health condition, my father had this, and I know the gene doesn't create it, but how I act and how I feel is going to signal the same gene. Well, I'm gonna just change my genetic future." Mm. So now people are super proactive in the process, right? So that's point number one, but point number two is that if you, if you start realizing that this is actually possible, and, and I can tell you that without a doubt it is because we were talking before we started, the things that I'm witnessing. I mean, if in the beginning, it was just like a person got a little better or felt a little this, a little that. Mm-hmm. You know, their food allergies went away and- Right ... but then all of a sudden, we're talking about, we had in our last event, two people with stage four cancer completely reversed. Wow. Uh, a woman with a very serious, uh, neurological disorder, they didn't even, they couldn't even name it, crutches, the whole bit, left the event, no crutches. Well, how did she do that? Mm. Well, let me ask you a question. If she doesn't look like a movie star, and she's not buffed, and young, and attractive, and successful, she's just like a normal person, and you listen to this person's story, and there's 1,000 people listening to that story, you're gonna scratch your head and say, "Wow, if she can do it, so can I." Mm-hmm. And just like, you know, an infection spreads amongst a community that creates disease, health and wellness can be as infectious as disease. Right. So do I use it? Yes, but not in the way that people think. Like, I, I don't, I, I, I'm not interested in success. I've had it. I know that that's an important element. I think success is a side effect of who you are. Mm-hmm. But what am I after? I'm after making a difference in the world. I want people to become empowered. So my rehearsals, my meditations, and connecting are all about the next thing that we can push the envelope for. In other words, if that person healed themselves of that health condition and this person healed themselves, is it possible for that person to heal another person? And if they can heal that other person, which is now happening, is it possible to heal somebody on the other side of the planet? But you just have to build- Mm ... the model and then come up with the science to be able to piece it together. And science, turns out, is the language- Mm ... to help to demystify that process. So I now know without a doubt if you give people sound scientific information, and every time they learn something new, they're adding new connections in their brain. That's what learning is. Wow. And if they can begin to pay attention for just one hour, now they're causing jungles of neurons to begin to organize as a platform of understanding. If I say to you, "Now turn to the person next to you and explain what I said," and we do this in our events, if you then turn to the person next to you and explain what you said, you've wired it in your brain. Mm-hmm. What's the relevance of that? Now you're installing the neurological hardware in your brain in preparation for an experience. And if the more you understand what you're doing and why, the how gets easier. Right. And if nothing's left to conjecture, superstition, or dogma, or spiritual new age stuff, but it's grounded in science- Science ... you're gonna have more intention behind what you're doing, and you're gonna assign more meaning to it. More believable. Exactly. Not just blind faith. That's it. No, it's- But something's backing it as well. Right. Yeah. And then if we can set up the conditions in the environment and give people the proper instruction, and on those people that get their behaviors to match their intentions and their actions equal to their thoughts, think of the mind and body working together, they're gonna have a new experience. And that experience then is gonna enrich even more circuits in their brain. The end product of an experience is an emotion. Right. All of a sudden, they're gonna feel unlimited. They're gonna feel empowered. They're gonna feel successful. They're gonna feel worthy. Now they're teaching their body chemically to understand what their mind has intellectually understood. Mm. Knowledge is for the mind, but experience is for the body, and they're embodying that information. Well, they've done it once, they should be able to do it again. And well, when you keep repeating the experience, you know this as an athlete, it's gonna become automatic. Right. It's gonna become innate. It's gonna become second nature. It's gonna become who you are. You don't have to think about it any longer. So take a person who was, uh, abused as a child with an alcoholic parent who has a very rare genetic disorder, and they've manifested weakness in their bones because that's the emotion they live by. Genetic disorder that medical science says we have no way to help you. How do you explain- Mm ... after a year of every day going after it, overcoming herself, overcoming herself, overcoming herself to become someone else, that no more any fra- fractured bones, no evidence of broken bones, no more crutches, no more wheelchair, uh, running again. How do you explain that except she literally became someone else? She became somebody else. Mm. The disease existed in the old personality. Right. She's not that person any longer. Right. Now, so biologically, that's absolutely possible. So for me, I chase the mystical. I want those profound moments where I cannot go back to being the same guy again. Mm. Because once you taste the, that wine or you drink from that well, all of a sudden, the way you perceive reality changes because you start to see things that always existed but you didn't have the circuitry in place to perceive them. Why? Because the inner event is an experience. An experience enriches the brain. We don't see things how they are. We see things how we are. Mm. So as you begin to change your circuitry, you're going to perceive more of reality. And why? Because we, we probably perceive 1% of reality. Right. So how do we, how do we begin to fully engage, right? So for me- And none of that matters. None of that veneer stuff matters. What matters is the essence. What matters is am I making a difference in the world? How can I begin to affect a change and help people to heal or create a better life for themselves? And not do it matter to matter, you know, with bravado and, uh, you know, adrenaline and all that. That's the old way.

Lewis Howes 30:45 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 30:45 This is about connecting, and instead of going and getting it, creating a field where you draw it to you.

Lewis Howes 30:51 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 30:51 And the synchronicities and the coincidences and the opportunities that are coming to you as a result of you doing the inner work.

Lewis Howes 30:58 Yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 30:59 You're going to rush less in your life, and you're gonna be more aware of your energy. And nobody changes until they change their energy, and when you change your energy, you change your life. But that doesn't mean you change your energy, do a meditation, and you get up, and then get on the freeway and flip people off.

Lewis Howes 31:15 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 31:15 You just disconnected from the energy of your future. You gotta be greater than the conditions in your environment. You gotta maintain that state of being. You gotta be greater than the habits and emotions of your body, and you gotta sustain it for an extended period of time.

Lewis Howes 31:28 How, how do we change our energy, and how do we sustain it for extended period of time? How long does that time need to be until we really start to see-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 31:35 And sometimes immediate. Okay, so, so our research, and we've done, uh, in the last six years, uh, because we were seeing so many incredible, incredible things going on in our workshops. I mean, people stepping out of wheelchairs and all kinds of crazy things.

Lewis Howes 31:50 Like a church.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 31:51 Well, well, kind of like, well-

Lewis Howes 31:52 Like a church. Like a megachurch, yeah. [laughs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 31:54 [laughs] But hopefully not that.

Lewis Howes 31:55 Based in science.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 31:56 Yeah, but, but, but-

Lewis Howes 31:57 But isn't it amazing that some of these churches, when g- people get to believe, whether they have science backing it or not-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 32:03 They just-

Lewis Howes 32:03 ... it's the belief in the mind

Dr. Joe Dispenza 32:04 ... they step out into the unknown.

Lewis Howes 32:05 And you can step out of your body-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 32:07 Yeah, yeah

Lewis Howes 32:08 ... and, and heal yourself.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 32:09 In-

Lewis Howes 32:09 Right?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 32:09 ... instantaneously. Instantaneously.

Lewis Howes 32:12 And we do see that a lot, and some people are like, "Ah, that's-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 32:14 Yeah

Lewis Howes 32:14 ... how can that be possible?"

Dr. Joe Dispenza 32:15 Well, how can it be possible? Well, look, we've, we've as- I has-

Lewis Howes 32:17 You've done the research now to back it.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 32:18 I've assembled a team of scientists.

Lewis Howes 32:20 Yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 32:20 We've done 8,500 brain scans. I can tell you, I can tell you when a person's about ready to change. I can tell you why people-

Lewis Howes 32:26 Really?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 32:27 ... don't change. I can tell you what it takes to change.

Lewis Howes 32:30 So what's it take to change?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 32:31 Well, you change. Most people keep their attention, always their awareness on their body.

Lewis Howes 32:37 Mm-hmm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 32:37 They keep their attention on everything in their environment.

Lewis Howes 32:39 [clears throat]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 32:40 People and things. Their, their brain is always scanning everything around us to determine what's known and unknown.

Lewis Howes 32:45 What's safe and, yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 32:46 What's safe and unsafe, right? And, you know, we do that all the time. So our research shows that the moment you take your attention off your body, and you go from somebody to nobody, you take your attention off the people in your life and go from who you identify with, from someone to no one.

Lewis Howes 33:05 Mm-hmm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 33:05 And so many people spend their whole life building an identity of being someone. Take your attention off your cell phone, your computer, your car, and go from something to nothing. Take your attention off where you're sitting, where you need to be, some place you have to go. Go from somewhere to nowhere, and take your attention off time, linear, thinking about the predictable future or the familiar past, and fall into the generous present moment. And go from some time to no time. Then all you're left with is consciousness.

Lewis Howes 33:35 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 33:35 And that's the moment you're no longer playing by the same rules of matter to matter.

Lewis Howes 33:40 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 33:40 And there's an, a, a very elegant moment that takes place in the brain. In fact, I was just showing my research to a group of researchers in, uh, Santa Cruz this past week, and they were blown away. And I said, "Now, watch. This person, this person's going to have a transformational moment." They said, "How do you know?" I go, "I've, I've seen enough of these." And the next moment, the whole brain just lights up. That person is switched on. They, they'll never be the same person again. They're having a transcendental moment. And we could actually predict it and teach it now. It's a formula.

Lewis Howes 34:11 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 34:12 Just like you doing sports, it b- just becomes a formula.

Lewis Howes 34:14 Sure.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 34:15 And then you change the formula, and you add to it, right? So when you no longer are, you're identifying with your body, your environment and time, that's the moment you're pure consciousness. Now-

Lewis Howes 34:27 You're just an idea.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 34:28 Yeah, you're an awareness.

Lewis Howes 34:30 Awareness.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 34:30 Awareness that has nothing to do with local space and time. And now, if you're no longer-

Lewis Howes 34:35 You go beyond anything.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 34:37 You can go, you can go beyond, and that's when the brain, 'cause the brain doesn't change the brain. [laughs] It takes a long time. It takes a long time for the personality to change the personality, for the ego to change the ego. The programs to change the programs takes forever. Matter takes a long time to change matter. But when you're in this moment, you're no longer playing by those rules. Consciousness is the phenomenon above matter. In fact, consciousness is beginning to activate or manipulate circuits in the brain. People just think the brain is creating conscious. No, consciousness is executing the brain, right? So then if the brain can change, then the mind doesn't change the brain. Mind is the brain in action. It's consciousness that changes it. So when people begin to disengage and get beyond themselves, you are at your absolute best when you get beyond yourself. And getting the person to that point-

Lewis Howes 35:27 How does someone get to that point?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 35:28 Yeah, so we teach them that formula. We teach them to that point where all of a sudden they reach that generous present moment where they just feel connected. And when they're in that place, all the things they thought they wanted, they actually no longer want-

Lewis Howes 35:42 Right

Dr. Joe Dispenza 35:42 ... 'cause they feel like they already have them. So then imagine living your life from that place. You would be less, uh, judgmental, uh, a- and you would be less frustrated.

Lewis Howes 35:52 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 35:52 You would be less impatient.

Lewis Howes 35:53 Less reactive, yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 35:53 And so, so the formula then is that it requires a clear intention, which is a coherent brain, and when you're living stressed out, and something goes wrong, and you're threatened, or you can't predict an outcome, or you have the perception that something's getting worse, or you can't control it, you switch on that fight or flight nervous system-

Lewis Howes 36:14 Yeah

Dr. Joe Dispenza 36:14 ... that we talked about.

Lewis Howes 36:15 Yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 36:15 Now, here's what happens. When that occurs, you start shifting your attention from one person to one problem, to one thing to another person to another place because your brain is trying to predict the next moment. Well, every one of those people and things and places has a s- neurological network in your brain. So as you shift your attention from one to the next, it's like a lightning storm in the clouds. Your brain starts firing very incoherently. And when your brain is incoherent, you're incoherent.

Lewis Howes 36:41 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 36:41 And when you're living by the hormones of stress, not a time to create.

Lewis Howes 36:44 No.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 36:44 Not a time to open your heart. Not a time to learn. Not a time to trust. [laughs] And it's a time to run, fight, or hide. So people spend 70% of their time of their life living in this state.

Lewis Howes 36:55 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 36:56 So think about it. So then-

Lewis Howes 36:57 Miserable

Dr. Joe Dispenza 36:57 ... yeah, so then when you're under stress, if there's a, if there's a cougar around the corner, you're not gonna sit down and meditate.

Lewis Howes 37:05 Sure, yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 37:05 You're not gonna sit still.

Lewis Howes 37:06 You're gonna, you're gonna-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 37:06 Right, but, but so imagine-

Lewis Howes 37:07 ... jump up a tree. Yeah

Dr. Joe Dispenza 37:07 ... here you've got the, you've got the survival gene switched on, and nobody is gonna believe in possibility when you're living in survival, right?

Lewis Howes 37:13 Wow, yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 37:14 So then when you're living in stress, what happens is, is you narrow your focus on the cause. You narrow your focus on matter, the object, the thing. And so people get switched on, and all of their attention is on their outer world. When the hormones of stress kick on, the body gets an arousal, now your attention is on the body. And of course, when you're under stress, you're trying to predict the future based on the past. And now you're literally enslaved into three-dimensional reality. So then how do you get what you want? You gotta try harder. You gotta force it more. You gotta work hard. You gotta fight for it. It's matter trying to change matter.

Lewis Howes 37:46 It's exhausting.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 37:47 People just burn out, right? So then we now know that when you go from a narrow focus on something and you begin to open your focus-

Lewis Howes 37:55 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 37:55 ... you create sense and awareness, that the act of opening your focus causes you to stop thinking. And if you stop thinking, you no longer activate those circuits, and you start to slow your brainwaves down.

Lewis Howes 38:08 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 38:09 And as you slow your brainwaves down, you start connecting to that autonomic nervous system, the thing that's giving you life. And all of a sudden, when you get beyond yourself, it says, "Uh, he's gone. Let's step in and just clean up this mess before he gets back."

Lewis Howes 38:21 Really?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 38:21 And its job is to create order and balance.

Lewis Howes 38:23 So your body will start to do that for you.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 38:24 The innate intelligence will step right in once you connect. You gotta connect, so you gotta know how to change your brainwaves. You can't change your brainwaves-

Lewis Howes 38:30 Wow

Dr. Joe Dispenza 38:30 ... and you stay in that active state. You're basically moving furniture around. You're analyzing your life within some disturbing emotion. And I can tell you, after looking at all those brain scans, if you're analyzing your life within some disturbing emotion, you're going to make your brain worse.

Lewis Howes 38:44 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 38:45 In fact, you are thinking in the past, right? So you teach people the formula, how to open their focus, change their brainwaves, connect to that invisible field, and all of a sudden, different compartments of the brain start synchronizing. The front of the brain starts talking to the back of the brain. The right side starts talking to the left side. And all of a sudden, what syncs in the brain links in the brain, and all of a sudden you see this person starting to feel more like themselves. And when you see those two hemispheres of the brain start lighting up, watch out-

Lewis Howes 39:13 Wow

Dr. Joe Dispenza 39:13 ... because that person's gonna feel really whole. They're gonna start loving life. They're gonna feel like they're gonna be in love with life because the union of polarity and duality is wholeness. At the exact same time, coherent brain, when you're resentful, when you're judgemental, when you're impatient, your heart beats out of rhythm. Why? You're stepping on the gas and you're stepping on the brake at the same time.

Lewis Howes 39:35 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 39:35 Your body and its intelligence, living in survival, is saying, "T-Rex is back there," but you're not running, because you're sitting across the table looking at somebody smiling, and your body's revved up, right? So the heart is beating arrhythmically. And when that happens, you're, you're squandering or you're using all the body's life force and turning it into chemistry, right?

Lewis Howes 39:53 Using all that energy to, to survive as opposed to think beyond.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 39:57 Right, right. So you're drawing from your vital life force, that invisible field around your body, and you're turning it into chemistry. You actually are going to shrink your own field.

Lewis Howes 40:05 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 40:05 The hormones of stress cause us to be materialists, right? We, we, we, when we're under stress, we're, we're using our senses to determine reality, so now you feel more like matter and less like energy, more separate from possibility.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 40:17 So then to teach a person then how to regulate that heart center, and we do this, uh, we've done 6,000 heart scans. Why? Because if I can teach you how to get in that heart state, and I can teach you how to activate that center, and I can teach you how to regulate an elevated emotion-

Lewis Howes 40:35 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 40:35 ... the heart starts to create a very coherent signature. And when the heart starts beating like a drum, like dropping a pebble in water, it begins to produce-

Lewis Howes 40:44 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 40:44 ... a measurable magnetic field up to three meters wide. Now you're more energy than matter, more wave than particle.

Lewis Howes 40:50 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 40:51 Now, that field that's being created is measurable, and that's an energy. And energy is frequency, and all frequency carries information. So what is the information when it makes it here? It c-

Lewis Howes 41:02 That you're sharing into the world, yeah

Dr. Joe Dispenza 41:04 ... it could carry the thought of your healing. Why? Because it's consistent with the energy. Guilt isn't gonna carry the thought of your healing. It's a different frequency. And all of a sudden now, the person is elevating their emotional state, and they're allowing their thought to be carried on that frequency. They're broadcasting a whole new energetic signature. But thoughts are the language of the brain, and feelings are the language of the body, and how you think and how you feel creates your state of being.

Lewis Howes 41:29 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 41:29 So then the question is, if you keep practicing creating that state of being, it should become familiar to you. Yes or no?

Lewis Howes 41:35 Yes.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 41:35 The word meditation literally means to become familiar with.

Lewis Howes 41:39 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 41:39 So then if you're practicing moving into these elevated states, and your heart is coherent, and we're measuring, and I can say, "Lewis, you got it. Now do it for 30 minutes. Now do it for 60 minutes," and you practice creating that coherence, you'll know when you're there and when you're not. Yes or no?

Lewis Howes 41:57 Sure.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 41:57 And then you would be able to say, like a skill, like anything else, "Give me a minute. I'm gonna step out," and you're gonna go back into heart coherence and bring up that state. Now-

Lewis Howes 42:05 How do we get there in the heart?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 42:06 Oh, well, then we practice the formula. Again, rest your attention.

Lewis Howes 42:09 Sure, sure.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 42:10 Start calling up elevated emotions. And when you start seeing that that starts happening, then you sustain it. Then you keep practicing. And all of a sudden, it gets longer and longer and longer. Now what's the relevance behind that? Well, we've measured neurotransmitters. So when a person actually activates their heart, the heart releases a chemical called, uh, oxytocin. Oxytocin is actually the love chemical. Now, oxytocin signals nitric oxide. Nitric oxide signals another chemical called endothelial-derived relaxing factor. What does that do? Causes the vessels in your heart to swell.

Lewis Howes 42:43 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 42:43 You will literally have energy in your heart. You will literally feel like your heart is full. Now, now, once you have that feeling- You're not gonna wanna trade that feeling for anyone-

Lewis Howes 42:54 No

Dr. Joe Dispenza 42:54 ... or anything. You're gonna say, "Why would I judge that person? If I judge that person, I'm gonna lose this feeling." Now, all of a sudden, you're self-regulating. Now, once the heart-

Lewis Howes 43:03 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 43:03 ... is activated, I just was at the research lab this week. Once the heart is activated, it acts as an amplifier, and it a- a- amplifies energy in the brain. So once you start opening that heart and it begins to signal the brain, you're going to suppress the survival centers. In fact, the research shows it will reset your baseline. In other words, if you're anxious and vigilant and you learn how to r- self-regulate, you'll actually reset the baseline, and you'll say, "Well, the trauma was 15 years ago. I saw my, uh, somebody get murdered or whatever." And then we'll say, "Yeah, yeah, yeah." But the moment the heart, not the brain, it's the heart that actually resets the amygdala. And all of a sudden, the person all of a sudden switches down, and all of a sudden they're like, "I'm, I just don't have anxiety." We have-

Lewis Howes 43:48 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 43:48 ... thousands of brain scans with anxiety and depression from people from all walks of life. They've reset, and all of a sudden they don't have that anxiety. They don't have to take medications or do anything, as they know how to self-regulate.

Lewis Howes 44:01 Wh- where does all anxiety stem from?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 44:03 Mm. Anxiety is doing this, living in survival. When you're living in survival, I'll tell you this, when the survival gene is activated, out of the infinite potentials in the quantum field, you'll always choose the worst-case scenario. Why? Because if you're in survival and you're preparing for the worst, there's always better chances of surviving if anything less happens. So people are always selecting the worst thing in their mind, and they begin to emotionally embrace that future-

Lewis Howes 44:29 Oh, my gosh

Dr. Joe Dispenza 44:29 ... before it happens. Thought and emotion, you start conditioning. So you're conditioning the body to become the mind of fear. You keep doing that enough times, once the body becomes the mind, it's a subconscious program. Person has a panic attack. Try as you may to control it with your conscious mind, you can't. You programmed it subconsciously. Now, you worry about the next panic attack, and now as you start worrying about the next panic attack, it's the vigilance that creates the next one.

Lewis Howes 44:55 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 44:55 Now, here's what's happening in our work. People who are self-regulating and creating these elevated states, we have, we have heart scans of them sustaining heart coherence for a whole hour during a meditation. Then, at the end of the day, they're still wearing the, the monitor. It's 8:00 at night, they're not even in a meditation, and for a whole entire hour they're in heart coherence. We say to the woman, "Uh, what's going on here?" She said, "I, I have no idea. I was just getting ready for bed, and all of a sudden my heart just swelled up. It was so intense I had to lay on my back and surrender to love-

Lewis Howes 45:26 Wow

Dr. Joe Dispenza 45:26 ... instead of surrendering to fear." She had a spontaneous love attack instead of a spontaneous panic attack. Now, I would-

Lewis Howes 45:33 Wow

Dr. Joe Dispenza 45:33 ... call that the natural state of being. So then if you're living by those elevated states and you know how to feel that emotion of your future before it happens, you're less likely to wait for it to happen, 'cause you'll feel like it already happened. You're less likely to try to control it. You'll know that the moment you lose the feeling, you just disconnect it and you're gonna make your way back. And when you get good at it, no person, no thing, no experience can take it away from you.

Lewis Howes 46:00 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 46:00 Now you're empowered. And if you understand the laws of how creation happens, then you're less likely to compete and rush to get what you want. You're gonna know that it's gonna come to you. And now that's the new model of how do we create.

Lewis Howes 46:13 Knowing it's gonna come to us at the right time. What if we want it faster?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 46:17 Well, you just do it again.

Lewis Howes 46:18 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 46:19 But remember, if you're trying to make it happen faster, you're back to the old self.

Lewis Howes 46:24 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 46:24 The new self would never do that. The new self would con- constantly stay there. And so then how does it appear? It appears in a way that you can't expect. Because if you can predict it, it's the known. It's gonna come in a way that you haven't thought of, an unknown, and it's, and it's gotta rock your world. It's gotta catch you-

Lewis Howes 46:41 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 46:41 ... off guard. It's gotta leave you n- no doubt that what you've been doing inside of you, that produces some effect outside of you. And when you correlate what you've been doing inside of you with the effect that produ- you produced outside of you, you're gonna pay attention to what you did and do it again. And the energy of the joy that you feel when it happens-

Lewis Howes 46:59 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 46:59 ... you're gonna use that energy to create again. Now, people say to me, "Well, I'm this way because of that person and that thing." I would say to them, "So you mean then that person or that experience out there is controlling your thoughts and feelings?"

Lewis Howes 47:13 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 47:13 That means you're a victim to your environment. But when you start changing your thoughts and feelings and it starts to produce an effect in your environment, you're gonna change the belief that you're a victim, consciously or subconsciously, of your life, to becoming more of a creator of your life.

Lewis Howes 47:29 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 47:29 And now all of a sudden when you become more a creator of your life, you can't blame anybody. You can't say, "Well, that person or that thing." You'd have to say, "I gotta be greater than that environmental-

Lewis Howes 47:36 Right

Dr. Joe Dispenza 47:36 ... condition. Who in history can I study that had the same challenges? Uh, now, what, what was, what was, what did they do? Let me just work that into my rehearsal so that I can improve," right? Just like you've done-

Lewis Howes 47:48 Right

Dr. Joe Dispenza 47:48 ... with sports.

Lewis Howes 47:49 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 47:49 It's the same process.

Lewis Howes 47:50 Yeah. When do you experience the most love?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 47:54 Ooh.

Lewis Howes 47:55 Personally.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 47:56 Yeah. That's a great question. So, um, so it turns out that the signature of the quantum field is greater and greater degrees of oneness and wholeness, right? So think about it, um, when we live in stress, we live in separation, right? 'Cause our senses fool us into believing you're there and I'm here, and everybody is separate from us, and everything is separate from us. That's 3D reality, right?

Lewis Howes 48:18 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 48:18 But as you start opening this center, all of a sudden when you become nobody, no one, no thing, nowhere, and no time, right, that's the moment that your consciousness lines up with the consciousness of the field. That's when you are totally present. Now, here's the deal. If I can get people to believe that just because they can't see something doesn't mean it doesn't exist, if they can just connect and pay attention to that field and stay present with it and become more aware of it moment after moment after moment, every interaction with that invisible field Every experience lays down new circuits in their brain for them to perceive more of it, right?

Lewis Howes 48:57 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 48:58 So then as they keep their attention on it, they start moving closer and closer to it, so they experience less separation and more oneness and wholeness.

Lewis Howes 49:06 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 49:06 So then when that happens, there's a cascade of all kinds of physical and chemical and energetic things that begin to happen. So for me, the, the best way that I can describe that feel, this is intelligent love. It's greater levels of order and unity and oneness, and when you strike it and you hit it, it is the most incredibly electric feeling you will ever have.

Lewis Howes 49:31 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 49:31 It is the most familiar unfamiliar feeling-

Lewis Howes 49:34 [laughs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 49:34 ... you will ever have. You will swear that you are ancient in that moment, and you will connect, and it won't be just like love for your puppy. You will feel it in every single cell of your body, and I mean, like a, a vibration, a, a, a coherence where your body becomes electric, and the only way we can describe that is love. You, you, you, you-

Lewis Howes 49:57 Yeah

Dr. Joe Dispenza 49:57 ... taste that one time.

Lewis Howes 49:58 You want it all the time.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 49:59 And, oh, here's what I say. I always say, the first time it happens, the, the first time it happened to me, and every time since, when I come back to my senses, I always say the same thing, "Joe Dispenza, you got this all wrong," because some veneer, some conditioning is lifted, and you start realizing that the way you think life is isn't that way. So now, when I've had those moments, Lewis, I have said, "There cannot be any more love than this," until the next experience.

Lewis Howes 50:30 Until the next time. [laughs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 50:32 I mean, how much is there, right? I mean-

Lewis Howes 50:34 Wow

Dr. Joe Dispenza 50:34 ... how, y- you get super humbled. You get-

Lewis Howes 50:36 When was the last time?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 50:38 Ooh, about, uh, well, about, uh, five days ago. Yeah. Yeah, I-

Lewis Howes 50:43 What was the moment?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 50:44 Ooh, I just had a very profound, mystical [laughs] experience.

Lewis Howes 50:47 [laughs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 50:47 I was, uh... I'll t- I'll tell you the short story.

Lewis Howes 50:50 And how often does it happen, also?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 50:51 I don't know. I mean, I, I, I live for them.

Lewis Howes 50:54 Yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 50:54 Uh, uh-

Lewis Howes 50:54 So you try to do it every month if you can, or?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 50:56 I, no, I, I, I-

Lewis Howes 50:57 Weekly, daily?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 50:58 I just do the meditations, and, uh, and then when they happen, I'm, if I'm just in the right place, and I don't have a plane to catch or an email to answer, and I have a little laxity, and I can kinda surrender into the moment, I just, um, I had this incredible, uh, I don't know how to describe this, but, uh, they, there was a geometric pattern, like a mandala. I don't know what it was, and it moved right through my entire body, and it was like, uh, working with me, with my physical body.

Lewis Howes 51:32 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 51:32 And if I could surrender to it, it was just incredible bliss. I mean, incredible, incredible bliss. I mean, I don't know how to describe it.

Lewis Howes 51:40 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 51:40 And, and, and when that occurs, uh, when it happened to me, I had this, my heart was just lit up. Like, it was a, it was a, it was an exper- it wasn't a physical experience. You know? It was a, it was from within, and here's the weird thing. Every time it happens, my heart f- feels alive. Like, it lasts for days. Like, the emotion from-

Lewis Howes 52:03 Wow

Dr. Joe Dispenza 52:03 ... the experience lasts for days.

Lewis Howes 52:05 Continues on, residual, yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 52:05 And people are like, "Uh, what's up with you?" Like, "What? What?" And you're just kinda got-

Lewis Howes 52:09 You're so joyful

Dr. Joe Dispenza 52:10 ... you got this big smile on your face. I just am so happy to be alive.

Lewis Howes 52:14 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 52:14 Right? And so I think that-

Lewis Howes 52:15 [laughs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 52:16 ...

Dr. Joe Dispenza 52:16 independent of... Listen, I now know, I mean, we've measured genetic changes, hormonal changes, neurotransmitter changes. We've measured immune system responses by trading fear-

Lewis Howes 52:27 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 52:27 ... for gratitude. We've measured gene expressions. We now know that people can, uh, signal the gene to, to, for c- to reduce cancer and tumors, signal the gene to grow new neurons. We've measured this. Signal the gene for, uh, for stem cells to go to damaged tissues and repair them. Oxidative stress gene signal. We, we've, we've seen that in our, in our students.

Lewis Howes 52:48 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 52:48 Now, here's the deal. After all of those studies in the last six years, you can't tell me you're too old to do this work. Can't tell me that. We got people in their 80s doing miraculous things. You can't tell me you're too sick to do this work. We got people that were at the end of their life, stage four, and we m- turn that battleship around.

Lewis Howes 53:09 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 53:09 You can't tell me that you had too turbulent of a past to do this. We have people that were really rough pasts that are now free. You can't tell me, uh, you're not, you've never meditated bef- we have people that have never meditated before have the most profound, mystical experience. [laughs]

Lewis Howes 53:23 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 53:23 Y- you can't tell me you're too overweight, too underweight, too out of shape, too in shape. You can't tell me that anymore because all colors, all races, everybody can do it. That's the cool part about it, and when you get a community of people together, uh, and you move them from one state of mind to another, there's this moment-

Lewis Howes 53:40 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 53:40 ... and I can almost predict when it happens, the second or third day, where people just start hooking up, and then when they start hooking up, you know, we start s- we're seeing now in our events, I mean, a lady that was blind from birth, 5% vision, by the end of the event was seeing. I mean-

Lewis Howes 53:58 Wow

Dr. Joe Dispenza 53:58 ... how do you explain that? We had three people in the last two, uh, events that were deaf that are hearing now.

Lewis Howes 54:04 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 54:04 People with crutches that were limited are walking without crutches and canes. Spinal cord injuries, I mean, Parkinson's disease, i- in, in a week. Like, um, that's gotta be, like, a-

Lewis Howes 54:16 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 54:17 If that doesn't, doesn't wake you up to what's possible, and you're witnessing a tumor on a woman's thyroid that was there at the beginning of the event that's gone at the end of the event. I mean, like-

Lewis Howes 54:27 Wow

Dr. Joe Dispenza 54:27 ... you, you gotta scratch your head and just go, "Wow, r- reality isn't at all the way I think it is," right? And so there's this humility that comes. Like, w- well, I don't know anything.

Lewis Howes 54:39 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 54:40 But I'm willing to go down, push the envelope a little bit more. So we're only as good as our ability to execute this, right? But as we get better at it-

Lewis Howes 54:51 Consistency of it, too, yeah

Dr. Joe Dispenza 54:52 ... consist- I'm all about consistency, and I'm, I'm gonna be the first guy to say Do the blood test, do the scan, let's do the test to make sure that it's just not in your mind, it's in your brain.

Lewis Howes 55:03 Yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 55:03 Let's know. So, so now, so now the evidence then supports it, the, the, the testimonials support it, and all of a sudden people now are beginning to wake up, uh, to what's possible. And just like the four-minute mile, the four-minute mile was broken.

Lewis Howes 55:18 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 55:19 Once it was broken, the, the, we pierced the veil-

Lewis Howes 55:21 Everyone did, yeah

Dr. Joe Dispenza 55:21 ... everyone did. So we're just seeing now the same thing, we've pier- pierced the veil, and people are just, just all in. It's, they're not 50% in, they're all in. And my goodness, we're creating this kind of wake and momentum.

Lewis Howes 55:34 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 55:34 But not just for healing, but for creating new jobs and new relationships-

Lewis Howes 55:38 Sure

Dr. Joe Dispenza 55:38 ... new opportunities.

Lewis Howes 55:39 Abundance, everything, yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 55:40 Yeah, whatever it is that they want. For, and people come, people come to the work for all kinds of reasons.

Lewis Howes 55:44 Sure.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 55:44 And I don't really care, but by the time they start doing the work, all they really wanna do is give.

Lewis Howes 55:50 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 55:50 Because when you feel so amazing and feel so great about yourself that you no longer want anything, the first thing you wanna do is give. I mean, when we see that brain scan moving into coherence, and those two hemispheres come together, and all of a sudden we see that heart just start going, boom, boom, very orderly, and st- so the more energy going in the brain, the brain goes into super coherence. You can walk around and look at that person who's getting the brain scan, and there are tears of joy rolling down her face. She's feeling so whole that it's impossible to want. How can you want when you're whole?

Lewis Howes 56:22 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 56:23 Now you feel like you already have-

Lewis Howes 56:24 Don't need anything

Dr. Joe Dispenza 56:24 ... you, you feel like you have it already.

Lewis Howes 56:26 Yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 56:26 That's the moment the magic happens. So she's no longer creating from lack, and duality, and separation.

Lewis Howes 56:31 Scarcity, yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 56:32 The scarcity. She's feeling like it already happened, and that's, that's a very profound signal in the field. That's dropping a big stone in the water, and it's producing some big waves.

Lewis Howes 56:40 And things are starting to manifest.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 56:42 She's-

Lewis Howes 56:42 She's attracting synchronicities-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 56:43 She, right

Lewis Howes 56:44 ... everything, yeah

Dr. Joe Dispenza 56:44 ... yeah. Now she's drawing it to her. So then, so then if you're doing that, to answer the original question, is that then if you keep practicing that, then you gotta get up and maintain that modified state of mind and body your entire day. And it's just a practice. And as you do that and you start seeing all the fun things happening, it's not like, "Oh, I gotta go create my life today."

Lewis Howes 57:05 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 57:05 You're like, you're like, "I gotta go."

Lewis Howes 57:07 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 57:07 'Cause I don't want the magic to stop.

Lewis Howes 57:09 Mm-hmm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 57:10 So I just do it because I love the crazy, magical, wonderful things that happen that, that I would just, would just n- never anticipate in my life.

Lewis Howes 57:20 Mm-hmm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 57:20 And so people are catching onto it, and they start coming for one reason, you know, they're, they want money, or they want, uh, health.

Lewis Howes 57:26 Sure.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 57:26 Or, but it's not about your money, it's not about your health, it's not about your new relationship, it's not even about the mystical moment, it's about who you become in the process. Because overcoming all those limitations-

Lewis Howes 57:37 Mm-hmm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 57:37 ... to become somebody else, nobody can take that away from you.

Lewis Howes 57:40 Wow. And do you feel like you've answered those questions to, for yourself: Who am I? Why am I here? What am I doing?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 57:50 Yeah, I, I think so. I, I think, though, that-

Lewis Howes 57:52 So is there questions you still haven't answered?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 57:54 No. I mean, it's not that there's questions that I still haven't answered, it's just that I'm, I'm always changing my answers, because I'm not... I mean, even my definition of surrender just from six months ago is not even close to the same definition that I have today.

Lewis Howes 58:08 Mm. What's the definition now?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 58:09 Well, surrender, man, it's just greater degrees of letting go and trusting.

Lewis Howes 58:13 Everything.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 58:14 I just like, like, if, like when my world is going sideways and my staff is just freaking out, I'm always like, "Oh, I'm just gonna let go."

Lewis Howes 58:23 [laughs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 58:23 "I'm just, I'm not gonna control anything." They're like, "What? The ship is sinking." I'm like, "Yeah, but I gotta go-"

Lewis Howes 58:28 Surrender

Dr. Joe Dispenza 58:28 ... "against the chemicals-"

Lewis Howes 58:29 Wow

Dr. Joe Dispenza 58:29 ... "and I gotta trust." And when-

Lewis Howes 58:30 Because if you're gonna stress in that moment and have anxiety, you're gonna create more of that.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 58:34 Oh, you're, you're going to make things worse. So I just let go all the way, all the way. And, and it, and you gotta lay down the very thing you used your whole life to get what you want for something greater to occur, and that's not, that's not one bite, that's not one leap.

Lewis Howes 58:51 Mm-hmm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 58:52 I- it's a practice. And so, uh, uh, is letting go a little bit more and trusting. If you, if you over-surrender, that's l- that's lazy and lethargic.

Lewis Howes 59:01 [laughs] Right, right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 59:01 If you over-intend, that's trying and forcing.

Lewis Howes 59:04 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 59:04 So there's this razor's edge between intention and surrender, right?

Lewis Howes 59:07 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 59:08 You gotta be able to, uh, be able to tra-

Lewis Howes 59:09 You gotta take action

Dr. Joe Dispenza 59:10 ... right. Yeah, right. But-

Lewis Howes 59:11 And surrender to the-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 59:12 Right, right. But you don't wanna get in the way, right?

Lewis Howes 59:14 Yeah. [laughs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 59:14 So, and that's just, it's a lot of trial and error, you know?

Lewis Howes 59:16 Sure.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 59:16 But you figure it out, right?

Lewis Howes 59:18 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 59:18 Yeah.

Lewis Howes 59:21 What do you feel like your mission is right now then?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 59:23 Wow. So, um, for me right now, I mean, my passion is, are, uh, these week-long events, uh, in-

Lewis Howes 59:30 How many do you do a year?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 59:31 We do about, uh, 10, uh, about, oh, just a little less than once a month, you know, a- around the world, and it's usually about 1,000 people. Uh, and now what we're doing is we're doing this whole 'nother level. Uh, we're doing two, uh, really cool things. One is a challenge activity. And what I wanna do is, uh, we now know that our students can create a lot of brain and heart coherence, but they can do it with their eyes closed in a room with 1,000 people, and soft music playing-

Lewis Howes 59:57 Ah

Dr. Joe Dispenza 59:57 ... and they feel safe. But now let's get them in a situation where that would normally elicit fear or some emotion.

Lewis Howes 1:00:05 Anxiety. Get them in the real world.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:00:06 Get them in the real world-

Lewis Howes 1:00:07 Yeah

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:00:07 ... and get them up somewhere where they're feeling a little uncomfortable-

Lewis Howes 1:00:10 Wow

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:00:10 ... or they're being challenged through endurance, and let's see them create brain-heart coherence-

Lewis Howes 1:00:16 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:00:16 ... right on that spot. Like, this is, this is the moment.

Lewis Howes 1:00:19 This is the thing.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:00:19 This is, this is your life. Like, you gotta be able to do this right now. You can't say, "I can't, it's too hard. I can't do this. I'll start tomorrow. I don't want to." That's not the moment. That's what you do in your life. Let's put you there, and instead of just white-knuckling and pushing through, let's get really conscious.

Lewis Howes 1:00:35 Surrender.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:00:36 Let's get really present.

Lewis Howes 1:00:37 Yeah. Yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:00:38 Let's create that heart and brain coherence, and let's work it. And then make the move when you're in that state. You know, rhythm through that resistance. Create that kind of coherence. And, and, and, and I [laughs] was just at the HeartMath Institute w- who we partner with, and we're, uh, Doc Childre, the guy that created HeartMath, he said, "It's all about rhythm through resistance. It's about that ability to create that kind of internal order when there's chaos going on around you. So what's the relevance of that?" A person who's going through a challenge activity that's a huge obstacle course, and they have the belief that they have a spinal cord injury, or they have MS or Parkinson's disease, and they never try anything in their life, and we got them up there, and there's people rooting for them, and they're in that state, and they're in that heart coherence, and they go through that whole course, and they've overcome, they're gonna walk back in their life and whatever challenges that they have, they're gonna be like-

Lewis Howes 1:01:31 This is nothing. Yeah

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:01:31 ... This is nothing.

Lewis Howes 1:01:32 Yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:01:33 I've just reset the scale. So and the other thing is that people move past where they normally can go. There's a liberation of energy, and that's available energy that just needs to be organized. So then they start organizing that energy, then they're doing magic.

Lewis Howes 1:01:47 Yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:01:47 The other thing we're working on is, um, is, uh, non-local healing, w- we call The Cage. We have a person lay down with a health condition. We get eight people around them. We teach them about energetic coherence. We talk to them about the science, that it's not matter that-

Lewis Howes 1:02:02 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:02:02 ... emits a field. It's the field that creates matter. Change the field, you change matter. We give them the science and the understanding, and then we let them go, and we have seen people, all kinds of healings take place-

Lewis Howes 1:02:14 Wow

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:02:14 ... in 10 minutes. Like, how do you explain that? How do you explain a person laying there who isn't even being touched, and their entire body is moving in all these different directions by, with energy? It's, it's incredible. So-

Lewis Howes 1:02:28 Wow

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:02:28 ... I wanna develop that. Why? I wanna get so good at that, Lewis, that 50% of those people that are laying down get up healed. We're gonna walk into a city when we do a week-long event. We're gonna call the children's hospital. We're gonna say, "Send those kids with cancer down."

Lewis Howes 1:02:42 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:02:42 We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna change futures, right?

Lewis Howes 1:02:46 Hmm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:02:46 And, and, and man, you know, you talk about opening your heart, but if you, you, you think you open your heart, but when you get an opportunity to give and, and you, and these people have been working all week long. When it comes time to heal, they're not saying, "Oh, my back hurts." They're not saying, "How long is this gonna go?"

Lewis Howes 1:03:02 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:03:03 "Am I doing it right?"

Lewis Howes 1:03:03 You transform someone's life. Yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:03:05 They left that, they left those attitudes on Monday.

Lewis Howes 1:03:07 Yeah. [laughs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:03:08 This is Friday. This is Saturday.

Lewis Howes 1:03:10 Sure.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:03:10 They're not, they're hooked. They've been connecting to the field all week long. They're not, they're not in their analytical mind. They're beyond their body. They know how to get beyond their environment. They, they know how to get beyond time. So-

Lewis Howes 1:03:21 Hmm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:03:21 ... when it comes time to execute, they've been practicing all week. They've been, they've been-

Lewis Howes 1:03:24 Yeah

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:03:24 ... at camp. They've been practicing.

Lewis Howes 1:03:26 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:03:26 So, so you get a group of people doing that together, and all of a sudden, the energy, we've measured the energy of the room, and the energy of the room always goes up.

Lewis Howes 1:03:33 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:03:33 It just goes up, and that's available energy to heal. That's available energy to do the mystical. So I just wanna get consistent, and I wanna get really good at it.

Lewis Howes 1:03:42 Hmm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:03:42 And it, and it's not about me.

Lewis Howes 1:03:44 You're not good at it yet?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:03:45 Well, we, we were making great changes and, like, unbelievable changes in people's health. But before I step out into the world and say, "Let's go to the children's hospital in Toronto-

Lewis Howes 1:03:55 Mm-hmm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:03:55 ... and let's call up the oncologist there and say, 'Hey, we'll never touch the kids.'"

Lewis Howes 1:04:00 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:04:00 "We'll just lay them down."

Lewis Howes 1:04:01 Just wanna hang out.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:04:02 Yeah.

Lewis Howes 1:04:02 Yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:04:02 It'll just be a half an hour. They'll just be laying on the ground, and then we'll be done, and develop a relationship. I wanna be good enough-

Lewis Howes 1:04:10 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:04:10 ... that when we do do it, that we're gonna execute an outcome.

Lewis Howes 1:04:14 Yeah. There you go.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:04:14 And, and, and, and that way we're beyond reproach.

Lewis Howes 1:04:16 Yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:04:16 It's no longer a bunch of spiritualists doing this, where there's a science behind it.

Lewis Howes 1:04:20 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:04:20 And we now know it, right?

Lewis Howes 1:04:21 Thousands of cases or et cetera.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:04:22 Yeah.

Lewis Howes 1:04:23 Yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:04:23 We've got, we've got tons of cases now.

Lewis Howes 1:04:25 Yeah, exactly.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:04:25 But I don't know the statistics.

Lewis Howes 1:04:26 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:04:26 We're gonna start doing the statistics now, and we're gonna start tracking those changes.

Lewis Howes 1:04:30 That's cool.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:04:30 So then I can say, without a shadow of a doubt, "Yeah, we're at 30% on the last three events. We have 30% remission." Not, not just like it goes away for a little bit, but it goes away and stays away.

Lewis Howes 1:04:40 Wow. That's cool.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:04:40 And some people go into the healing, they get in the cage for their knee problems, and they come out hearing better. That just happened to a guy the other day.

Lewis Howes 1:04:47 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:04:47 He, he, he had bad knees, and he was, he went in to get his knees healed, but he forgot that he's, you know, he didn't think about his hearing problem. He got bit by a poisonous snake when he was, like, a three-year-old kid, and always had hearing problems, wears hearing aids, the whole bit. He comes out of the, the... He said he'd never felt that amount of love in his entire life.

Lewis Howes 1:05:05 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:05:05 And that's the common thing that people say. The woman that got her vision back, that's not what she talked about. She didn't talk about the fact that she could see. All she kept saying was, "I feel like a child again. I feel like a baby again. I feel fresh. I feel like I'm newborn. I feel clean."

Lewis Howes 1:05:21 Hmm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:05:22 She kept talking about how she felt. Then she said, "Oh, yeah, and I can see faces now."

Lewis Howes 1:05:26 Right, right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:05:26 And there were these two big, uh, flower arrangements on the stage, and she said, "I thought those were guards guarding Dr. Joe the whole week." She couldn't even see the flowers. She just saw the, you know, the form.

Lewis Howes 1:05:37 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:05:37 And she goes, "I can see the flowers now." But, but the first thing was how they felt, and he, the same way. He said, "I had never... I was sobbing. I never felt so much love in my life.

Lewis Howes 1:05:47 Hmm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:05:47 It wasn't like I was trying to feel it. It just happened." And he said, "I got up, and all of a sudden, I could hear Dr. Joe talking without my hearing aids."

Lewis Howes 1:05:54 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:05:54 And I was just kind of like, "I think my knees were a little better."

Lewis Howes 1:05:57 [laughs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:05:57 "But my hearing's a lot better" [laughs] , you know? So you never know, right?

Lewis Howes 1:06:00 That's amazing.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:06:00 You never know.

Lewis Howes 1:06:01 Shoot. Everyone's gotta get in the cage.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:06:02 [laughs] In the cage.

Lewis Howes 1:06:04 I like it.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:06:04 Yeah.

Lewis Howes 1:06:04 I like to give people a challenge. I'm curious, I want everyone listening for the next seven days to try something.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:06:11 Mm-hmm.

Lewis Howes 1:06:12 And if you could give one to three different things that we could think differently or eliminate-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:06:19 Mm-hmm

Lewis Howes 1:06:19 ... when a thought comes to us, or we react in a certain way, if there's something you think that if we eliminated one, two, or three things, and we did this every day for seven days-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:06:29 Mm-hmm

Lewis Howes 1:06:29 ... we would start to see incredible-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:06:32 Mm-hmm

Lewis Howes 1:06:32 ... feelings of differently. We'd feel healthier, more lively, more loved.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:06:35 Okay.

Lewis Howes 1:06:35 What would be those few things?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:06:36 Okay. Well, most people, number one, they get up in the morning, and the, the first thing they do is they think about the problems in their life, and those problems are memories from the past.

Lewis Howes 1:06:47 Mm-hmm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:06:47 So the moment they think about their problems, they're thinking in the past, right? Every one of those problems has an emotion attached to them, so they start feeling unhappy or-

Lewis Howes 1:06:54 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:06:54 ... unworthy or whatever, and how you think and how you feel is your state of being, so most people's entire state of being is in the past when they start the day. So if they're in the familiar past, they're gonna live in a predictable future, right?

Lewis Howes 1:07:05 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:07:05 So they get up, and they check their cell phone. They check their texts, their WhatsApp, their Facebook. They post something on Facebook. They tweet. They Twitter. They check the news. Then they go to the bathroom, get a cup of coffee, take a shower, get dressed, check more emails, drive to work the same way, do the same thing. So they're in a program. They've actually lost their free will to the program.

Lewis Howes 1:07:23 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:07:24 So if you start your day, and you start your day with this simple question, "What is the greatest ideal of myself that I can be today?"

Lewis Howes 1:07:33 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:07:33 You ask yourself that question. Now, listen, your body's gonna go like, "Well, we gotta get a cup of coffee, and you gotta-"

Lewis Howes 1:07:38 "I'm tired. I'm tired." Yeah

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:07:38 ... "I'm tired," yeah. And you gotta go, "Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, body, uh, you're not the mind. I'm the mind right now. You're gonna sit here. I'm gonna feed you."

Lewis Howes 1:07:45 [laughs]

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:07:46 "Uh, you're gonna get your coffee. You're gonna do all those things, but right now, this is my time, and you're gonna obey me." Right? So now, the body's no longer the mind. You're the mind. And so when it wants to get up, and you become aware of it, and return back to the present moment, every time you do, that's a victory.

Lewis Howes 1:08:02 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:08:02 And you're changing some aspect of yourself. So then, ask yourself. I do this all the time. Write down four thoughts that you're gonna stay conscious of the whole day. "I can't. It's too hard." You'd be surprised, the moment you become conscious of what those thoughts are, how unconscious you've been to them all day-

Lewis Howes 1:08:18 Right

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:08:18 ... you know, for weeks on end. Write down what you speak, how you speak, four things you wanna change, how you act. How do, how do you act? Do you complain? Do you blame? Do you make excuses? Do you feel sorry for yourself? That's a victim consciousness. What emotions do you live by? Is it possible that you're so used to living by guilt-

Lewis Howes 1:08:36 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:08:36 ... you don't even know it's guilt, it just feels like you? Do you, do you allow your energy to drop? Become conscious of those states of mind and body, and review them, and say, "This is the old self." Then say, "What thoughts do I wanna fire and wire in my brain?" [laughs] And start firing and wiring, and start feeling it. What behaviors will I demonstrate today? What choices will I make? One day, one lifetime.

Lewis Howes 1:08:58 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:08:59 And just like you did, rehearse them. Rehearse the whole entire thing.

Lewis Howes 1:09:03 Yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:09:03 Begin to install the neurological hardware in your brain. And if you keep installing it, the hardware's gonna become a software program, and you're gonna start thinking and acting that way. And then here's the tough part. Can you teach your body emotionally what your future's gonna feel like before it's made manifest?

Lewis Howes 1:09:20 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:09:20 And don't get up until you feel that way. Now, practice that for a few days, and then see if you can stay in that state. And watch, all of a sudden, all those weird doors start opening for you.

Lewis Howes 1:09:34 Synchronicities.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:09:34 Synchronicities.

Lewis Howes 1:09:35 Yeah

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:09:35 Whatever they are. Number two, take up time at the end of your day, the end of your day, before you lay down, and give thanks for your life. And just feel gratitude, and really teach your body what it feels like. The emotional signature of gratitude. When, gratitude means-

Lewis Howes 1:09:52 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:09:52 ... you're getting something. If I give you something that's of value, you would say, "Thank you," 'cause you would feel it, right? So when you're receiving, you're giving thanks. So gratitude is the ultimate state of receiving.

Lewis Howes 1:10:05 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:10:06 So then, people only accept, believe, and surrender to the thoughts equal to their emotional state.

Lewis Howes 1:10:11 Right.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:10:11 So if you're in a state of gratitude, every thought's gonna make it right down into your body. If you're saying, "I'm- I'm healthy-"

Lewis Howes 1:10:18 Wow

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:10:18 ... "I'm healthy, I'm healthy, I'm wealthy, I'm wealthy, I'm wealthy," and your body's programmed in negativity, it's saying, "No, you're not. No, you're not. No, you're not," thought's gonna stop right here. So as you elevate your state, there are about 1,200 different chemical reactions that go on in the body, that begin to restore and repair the body in a state of gratitude. And so, we've done the research to prove that.

Lewis Howes 1:10:39 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:10:39 10 minutes, and just feel it with all of your heart. That's it.

Lewis Howes 1:10:44 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:10:45 Third thing, and, and very important, take time, whenever it is, sit down, close your eyes, and begin to just open your awareness to the space around you, and just sense it, and pay attention to it, and become more aware of it. The act of opening your awareness begins to reduce the stress hormones and creates more-

Lewis Howes 1:11:07 Wow

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:11:07 ... coherent brain wave states. And y- I'm doing it right now, and it's just a practice.

Lewis Howes 1:11:12 Yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:11:12 It's just a practice. And the more you do it, the better you get at it.

Lewis Howes 1:11:15 Wow.

Lewis Howes 1:11:16 Who's been your greatest teacher?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:11:18 Ooh, life, no doubt about it. I believe that life is our initiation. I mean, uh, I, I, um, I, I do my best to see my life as a reflection of my mind. And I think that-

Lewis Howes 1:11:31 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:11:31 ... uh, and I think that life is our greatest teacher.

Lewis Howes 1:11:35 Reflection of your mind is essentially like what you've created is a reflection of how you've been thinking.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:11:41 Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

Lewis Howes 1:11:42 So if you're showing up sick physically, then that's what you've created in your mind.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:11:45 Look, I don't believe that germs make me sick. I believe I make me sick.

Lewis Howes 1:11:48 Mm-hmm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:11:49 I do. I mean, there's no germs with my name on it out there. I mean, they're called opportunistic bacteria, 'cause they're waiting for an opportunity for your immune system-

Lewis Howes 1:11:57 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:11:57 ... to be compromised. And so, for me personally, I, you have to, I ask myself this question every day, "At what point do I stop believing that I create my life? Like, what, what is that point?" So I'm always pushing that envelope a little bit more. So for me, I think l- life is our initiation. We don't need to go to any ancient school of wisdom-

Lewis Howes 1:12:20 Mm-hmm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:12:20 ... in the Himalayas. We, we, our life is our initiation, and when you meet the challenges in your life from a greater level of mind, you're going to begin to move through those initiations. And what is the side effect of that? Wisdom.

Lewis Howes 1:12:34 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:12:34 And that's what we take with us.

Lewis Howes 1:12:35 Yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:12:35 Being wise.

Lewis Howes 1:12:36 Powerful. Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:12:37 Yeah.

Lewis Howes 1:12:38 How can we connect with you online and go to your events? What's the best place to go to-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:12:43 So-

Lewis Howes 1:12:44 ... to see everything that you have put together?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:12:44 Yeah, so my website is just drjoedispenza.com. D-R-J-O-E dispenza.com. And there's just a ton of resources there. We, we have an online progressive course now. I don't teach those courses anymore, because my interest is in the week longs. So for people who come to a week long, they do a, a, a st- home study course, where they get the basics, they understand what we're doing. Uh, it's about 23 hours. They can do it in however long they want.

Lewis Howes 1:13:07 Sure.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:13:07 And then, and then with that comes another study course, and then they can come to a week long, and join a community of people that are all about-

Lewis Howes 1:13:15 Wow

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:13:15 ... passion and the unknown.

Lewis Howes 1:13:16 Amazing.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:13:17 Yeah.

Lewis Howes 1:13:17 Amazing. When's the next event?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:13:19 Um, well, the next event, gosh, the next week long is in Toronto, uh, September 1st through 7th, and, uh, it's, uh, pretty close to sold out. Yeah. Then we'll be in the, uh, in Australia in October, and then, uh, the UK in November, and then Cancun, Mexico in December. And then I got, you know, more, I got a couple events that I'm doing here and there.

Lewis Howes 1:13:39 Wow.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:13:40 And other things. Yeah.

Lewis Howes 1:13:41 Amazing.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:13:41 Yeah.

Lewis Howes 1:13:42 Um- A couple final questions for you, and this one's called the three truths-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:13:46 Mm-hmm

Lewis Howes 1:13:46 ... that I ask everyone at the end.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:13:47 Mm-hmm.

Lewis Howes 1:13:48 If you imagine it's your last day many years from now-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:13:51 Mm-hmm

Lewis Howes 1:13:51 ... and you've achieved or created or been anything you've wanted to do. You've done it all, right?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:13:57 Mm-hmm.

Lewis Howes 1:13:57 Everything you can think of has happened. Created it, books, events, whatever you wanna do. Healed the world. You've done it all.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:14:04 Mm-hmm.

Lewis Howes 1:14:05 Um, but for whatever reason, you've gotta take everything with you, all your writings, your research material-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:14:10 Mm-hmm

Lewis Howes 1:14:10 ... videos, events.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:14:11 [laughs]

Lewis Howes 1:14:11 It's not available for anyone to have anymore.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:14:14 Mm-hmm.

Lewis Howes 1:14:15 But you have a piece of paper, and you get to write down three things you know to be true about your life or the lessons that you would leave behind-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:14:22 Mm-hmm

Lewis Howes 1:14:22 ... and this is the only lessons that they would have access to.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:14:25 Mm-hmm.

Lewis Howes 1:14:26 What would you say are your three truths?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:14:28 Ooh. Ooh, wow. Uh, number one is that the divine lives in every human being and that, uh, we have to make an effort to connect with it every day.

Lewis Howes 1:14:37 Mm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:14:37 And when we do, it answers the call in ways that we would just never anticipate. And, uh, I know that to be the truth and that, uh, nobody is so special to be excluded from that phenomenon.

Lewis Howes 1:14:51 Mm-hmm.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:14:51 Uh, number two is that, uh, we are the creators of our lives and not the victims of our lives, and that taking time in your life to invest in yourself is, uh, to invest in a future. And when you invest in yourself, you invest in your future, and when you believe in yourself, you believe in possibility. And I think that everybody secretly believes in themselves, and so taking time-

Lewis Howes 1:15:13 Mm-hmm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:15:13 ... to understand that we are just works in progress and, and to find time to forgive ourselves and to forgive others-

Lewis Howes 1:15:22 It's huge

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:15:22 ... to start fresh this, the next day is a blessing, is a blessing. And, and finally, uh, um, I think that it, it's not our purpose in life to be, uh, popular or successful or beautiful or, or, uh, intelligent. Our purpose in life is to remove those blocks, those veils, those limitations that stand in the way between us and that divine intelligence. And, and when we do, uh, it begins to make its way through us-

Lewis Howes 1:15:54 Mm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:15:54 ... and we become more like it. We become more loving. It is a loving intelligence. We become more giving. It's a giver of life. We become more conscious. It's a consciousness. We become more mindful. It has an infinite mind. We become more willful. It has an amazing will. Its nature, uh, becomes our nature. Its mind becomes our mind. And, and then we don't have to try to be liked or try to be important-

Lewis Howes 1:16:16 Mm-hmm

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:16:17 ... or try to be recognized. We're just happy for no reason at all. And I, and I think that is the natural state of being, and I think that we innately know that on some level.

Lewis Howes 1:16:26 Mm. Great truths. Thank you.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:16:28 Thank you.

Lewis Howes 1:16:29 Um, before I ask the final question, I wanna acknowledge you for a moment, Joe, for constantly pushing the envelopes on what's possible and constantly learning and growing and researching so that you can continue to help so many people in the world overcome pain, overcome stress, overcome disease, anything that's holding us back. And I really acknowledge the work that you're doing, 'cause I think it's wakening so many people up to what they thought was possible and were limited to, to now what is actually possible for them. So I acknowledge you for all that, my man.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:17:01 Thank you.

Lewis Howes 1:17:01 Yeah.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:17:01 I'll let that in all the way.

Lewis Howes 1:17:02 I'll let-

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:17:02 Thank you

Lewis Howes 1:17:02 ... I appreciate it. And, uh, would love to have you come back on sometime in the future. Uh, but for now, I think that's gonna blow people's minds.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:17:09 [laughs]

Lewis Howes 1:17:10 I was extremely inspired by everything you said. Uh, so the final question is, what's your definition of greatness?

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:17:17 Hmm. So greatness, my definition of greatness is to be greater than your environment, to be greater than your body, and to be greater than time. And if you do, you will be great. I mean, that is it.

Lewis Howes 1:17:28 Mm. Joe, thank you, man. Appreciate it.

Dr. Joe Dispenza 1:17:30 You're welcome.

Lewis Howes 1:17:31 That was great. Thank you.