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Masters of ScaleDisrupting the wedding industry, with Zola’s Shan-Lyn Ma | Masters of Scale
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Zola's Shan-Lyn Ma on Building a Modern Wedding Company
- Shan-Lyn Ma traces her entrepreneurial drive from selling stress balls as a child in Australia, through Yahoo and an early product role at Gilt, to founding Zola with co-founder Nobu.
- Zola grew from her frustration with a miserable wedding registry experience, and she says she and Nobu focused on one product first but waited too long to expand beyond the registry.
- She explains that Zola's early seed funding came easily only because of years of proven work with Kevin Ryan at Gilt, and that later fundraising got harder as investors focused on metrics.
- Ma describes inclusivity for same-sex couples as an obvious default for Zola, including the company's public response when the Hallmark Channel refused to run its ads featuring same-sex couples.
- She discusses a near-fatal car accident that clarified her commitment to Zola, how the company handled the pandemic with new tools and Zola Home, and how it is expanding into Zola Baby and AI-powered features.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasEarly entrepreneurial instincts can come from necessity
Ma says her family's limited money went to school and books, so she had to earn for anything else, which gave her a lasting love of creating something from nothing.
Rapid-growth environments offer outsized learning opportunities
As Gilt's first product manager, Ma saw the company grow from about 30 to over 1,000 people and from near-zero to over 600 million in revenue, giving her chances to build new products she says she otherwise couldn't have.
Personal frustration can reveal a market gap
After finding a friend's registry painful and limited, Ma and Nobu recognized that couples wanted products, experiences, cash, and personalization, which department store registries were not delivering.
Expand when word-of-mouth signals demand
Ma admits Zola waited four years to broaden beyond the registry and advises branching out once product feedback and the P&L show viral, word-of-mouth momentum.
Easy fundraising often rests on a long track record
Ma calls Kevin Ryan's seed investment the quickest yet also the longest-running fundraise, since it came from four years of proving herself and Nobu at Gilt.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesI have wanted to be an entrepreneur before I even knew the word existed.
— Shan-Lyn Ma
The fact that you created something out of nothing. I think, uh, that is still the most fulfilling part of my job.
— Shan-Lyn Ma
It wasn't even a, a decision or a discussion. It was something so obvious that it was offensive to us
— Shan-Lyn Ma
If you really wanna do something and you don't give up, you can be the best and, and by the way, um, you know, it, it could be anything.
— Shan-Lyn Ma
I consider it more as one of the longest-running fundraising stories in that Nobu and I worked with and for Kevin at Gilt for four years.
— Shan-Lyn Ma
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SPEAKERS
Shan-Lyn Ma
guestCo-founder and CEO of wedding-planning and registry platform Zola.
Jeff Berman
hostHost of Masters of Scale.
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