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A Masterclass on Dealing with Change: A 3-Step Process | The Mel Robbins Podcast

In this episode, Harvard professor Dr. Luana Marques is going to teach you 3 simple steps to turn #anxiety into power. And she’s not fooling around; in the first few minutes, she even called me out.

Mel RobbinshostDr. Luana Marquesguest
Jul 19, 202359mWatch on YouTube ↗

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At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Three-Step Framework To Navigate Life Transitions Without Avoidance Or Panic

  1. Mel Robbins and psychologist Dr. Luana Marques explore why life transitions—like graduation, job changes, and post‑pandemic shifts—feel so destabilizing and how our instinct to avoid discomfort makes them even harder.
  2. Using Mel’s impending transition with her daughter graduating and moving home as a live case study, they unpack how unresolved personal pain, anxiety, and over‑fixing for others often drive our reactions.
  3. Dr. Marques introduces a three-step process—Shift, Approach, Align—grounded in cognitive behavioral science to help people face discomfort, clarify their values, and take small, consistent actions aligned with those values.
  4. They emphasize that discomfort in transitions is not a sign something is wrong, but a necessary doorway to growth, impact, and a more integrated, value‑driven life for ourselves and those we love.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Discomfort in transitions is normal, not a danger signal.

Major life changes naturally bring anxiety, grief, and uncertainty; feeling unsettled doesn’t mean something is wrong, it means you’re letting go of an old shore while not yet fully in the new life.

Avoidance prolongs pain and blocks growth.

Whether it’s staying in misaligned careers, overworking, or numbing out emotions, avoiding discomfort keeps you stuck in an old identity and often leads to crises (health scares, breakdowns) that finally force change.

Use pain as a compass to uncover your core values.

When something hurts deeply, it’s often because a key value (like impact, connection, or family) is being violated; leaning into the pain with curiosity—“Why does this hurt?”—reveals what actually matters most now.

Clarify values by examining your best moments, not just your worst.

Notice times you feel calm, alive, or in flow (e.g., family dinners, creative work) and ask, “What about this feels so right?”—those experiences point directly to your true values like connection, creativity, or simplicity.

Support others by holding space, not fixing their discomfort.

Rushing in to solve a child’s or partner’s anxiety robs them of the growth that comes from facing their own transition; instead, name what you see, set boundaries if it spills onto you, and allow them to feel and process.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Let go and start swimming, because there is no ticket to a perfect life.

— Dr. Luana Marques

Pain only exists because behind that pain there is a value that’s extremely important that’s being violated.

— Dr. Luana Marques

There’s no transition without discomfort for anybody. If she didn’t have it, something would be wrong.

— Dr. Luana Marques

I’m no longer actually living a value‑driven life. I’m living an emotion‑driven life and just trying to not feel uncomfortable.

— Dr. Luana Marques

If you’re going to feel uncomfortable anyhow, you might as well use that pain in a way that actually gets you un‑stuck.

— Dr. Luana Marques

Read the available transcript
Why life transitions (graduation, career shifts, aging, post‑pandemic life) feel so difficultThe role of avoidance and fear of discomfort in keeping people stuckDiscovering and redefining personal values during times of changeDr. Luana’s three-step process: Shift, Approach, AlignSupporting loved ones through transitions without over‑fixing or rescuingUsing emotional pain and anxiety as signals pointing to violated valuesBuilding a simpler, values‑aligned life and business (Mel’s Vermont move example)

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