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Order your copy of The Let Them Theory 👉 https://melrob.co/let-them-theory 👈 The #1 Best Selling Book of 2025 🔥 Discover how much power you truly have. It all begins with two simple words. Let Them. — If you’re feeling overwhelmed about money, this episode is for you. Whether you want to pay off debt, increase your income, or have more money in the bank, this episode is a must-listen. For the first time on the podcast, Mel is sharing, in detail, the step-by-step approach she took to get out of $800,000 in debt, create financial freedom, and get good with money. Mel is also joined today by Lewis Howes, two-time New York Times bestselling author and host of the hit podcast The School of Greatness. Before he reached the success he has today, Lewis was broke, living on his sister’s couch, with no college degree. He shares the specific steps he took to start over, learn new skills, and the mindset and success habits he used to make and save money. Together, Mel and Lewis share the exact formulas they used to turn their lives around. Whether you’re trying to pay down debt, create an emergency fund, start a side hustle, or just have more money in the bank, you’re going to learn the things you should be doing right now to change your financial future. By the end of this episode, you will have the simple tools you need to start getting good with money. You’ll know that change is possible. And that you are worthy of financial peace and ease. You CAN get good with money. Starting today. For more resources related to today’s episode, click here for the podcast episode page: https://www.melrobbins.com/episode/episode-288/ Follow The Mel Robbins Podcast on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/themelrobbinspodcast I’m just your friend. I am not a licensed therapist, and this podcast is NOT intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist, or other qualified professional. Got it? Good. I’ll see In this episode: 00:00 Welcome 16:16 How Lewis Climbed Out of Debt 28:53 The Value of Small, Consistent Actions 33:00 The #1 Skill to Build If You Want to Achieve Your Goals 37:49 The 3 Key Steps to Improving Your Relationship with Money 45:32 Rewriting Your Story About Money — Follow Mel: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/melrobbins/ TikTok: http://tiktok.com/@melrobbins Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/melrobbins LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melrobbins Website: http://melrobbins.com​ — Sign up for Mel’s newsletter: https://melrob.co/sign-up-newsletter A note from Mel to you, twice a week, sharing simple, practical ways to build the life you want. — Subscribe to Mel’s channel here: https://www.youtube.com/melrobbins​?sub_confirmation=1 — Listen to The Mel Robbins Podcast 🎧 New episodes drop every Monday & Thursday! https://melrob.co/spotify https://melrob.co/applepodcasts https://melrob.co/amazonmusic — Looking for Mel’s books on Amazon? Find them here: The Let Them Theory: https://amzn.to/3IQ21Oe The Let Them Theory Audiobook: https://amzn.to/413SObp The High 5 Habit: https://amzn.to/3fMvfPQ The 5 Second Rule: https://amzn.to/4l54fah

Lewis HowesguestMel Robbinshost
May 12, 20251h 9mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 1:19 – 8:06

    Why money feels scary right now (and why it can still be an opportunity)

    Mel frames the episode for anyone feeling overwhelmed, ashamed, or stuck with money, promising simple, doable building blocks rather than complicated financial jargon. Lewis explains the current climate—AI uncertainty, inflation, job insecurity—and argues that clarity and curiosity are the antidotes to fear.

    • Money stress is widespread: inflation, job uncertainty, and rising costs
    • Opportunity exists when you get clear on what you want and where money should go
    • Money doesn’t need to be complicated—tools + curiosity create confidence
    • Reinvention seasons can begin by deciding to get good with money
  2. 8:06 – 12:40

    Lewis hits rock bottom: injury, debt, and the shame of depending on family

    Lewis recounts chasing an NFL dream, living on minimal income, then losing everything after a major injury. The emotional crash—grief, shame, and feeling unworthy—becomes the turning point that many listeners can relate to, regardless of age.

    • Arena football paid too little to build stability; necessities barely covered
    • A devastating injury ends his sports path and exposes lack of backup plan
    • Shame and loss of identity compound financial stress
    • He names the first step as grieving the loss before rebuilding
  3. 12:40 – 16:17

    Mel’s 2008 financial collapse: leveraging the house, losing the job, living in panic

    Mel shares her own financial crisis during the recession: cashing out savings, racking up debt, and becoming trapped by a house that couldn’t be sold. She describes the visceral stress of declined cards, rehearsed excuses, and spiraling shame—and how self-blame can freeze action.

    • They leveraged everything: house, HELOCs, credit cards, retirement and college savings
    • Market crash made the house effectively unsellable due to debt
    • Day-to-day survival stress (grocery checkout panic) and deep shame
    • Recognizing shared responsibility and the anger/regret that follows
  4. 16:17 – 19:22

    How Lewis climbed out: LinkedIn outreach, Toastmasters reps, and mentors who appeared

    Lewis explains the practical steps he took to rebuild: cold outreach on LinkedIn, developing communication skills through Toastmasters, and meeting mentors by showing up consistently. His story emphasizes that momentum comes from action—especially when it’s uncomfortable.

    • Used early LinkedIn to message executives and request meetings
    • Joined Toastmasters to confront fear of public speaking and build skills
    • A mentor relationship began from an honest moment of need and humility
    • Skill-building + networking created opportunities he couldn’t see at first
  5. 19:22 – 21:53

    Turning a “random” skill into income: events, sponsorships, consulting, and living frugally

    Lewis describes monetizing what was directly in front of him—community-building on LinkedIn—before it ever felt like a calling. He emphasizes frugality, runway-building, and focusing on reps over quick wins during a multi-year climb.

    • Hosted free LinkedIn events, then discovered monetization via sponsorships
    • Added paid consulting and wrote a book to sell at events
    • Lived below his means: cheap rent, no car, buses/couches to travel
    • Saved aggressively to avoid returning to scarcity and panic
  6. 21:53 – 28:14

    Small, consistent actions: the reps that create confidence (and eventually a new career)

    Lewis connects his earlier grind to starting a podcast: consistent weekly output, daily outreach, and patience despite earning $0 at first. The message is that “Lego bricks” of daily effort build credibility and options over time.

    • Reevaluated: LinkedIn work paid but didn’t feel like his long-term calling
    • Started podcasting early, fueled by service and curiosity rather than money
    • One year of weekly episodes + manual outreach; no revenue initially
    • Consistency and reps created the foundation for long-term success
  7. 28:14 – 32:57

    Generosity as a wealth habit: giving time and asking better questions

    Lewis shares a counterintuitive pattern from interviewing wealthy people: generosity expands opportunity. When you have little money, generosity can be time, attention, service, and curiosity—especially in how you approach mentors and relationships.

    • Wealthy people often credit generosity for increased abundance
    • If you can’t give money, give time, energy, and genuine attention
    • Shift from “Can you help me?” to researched, story-based questions
    • Generosity opens doors to mentors, support, and unexpected help
  8. 32:57 – 34:30

    The #1 skill to build: self-leadership (emotional regulation + daily momentum)

    Asked what skill enables high earning, Lewis points to self-leadership—managing emotions, routines, and self-belief—more than any single technical skill. He explains “stacking wins” through small daily actions and illustrates it with a focused 9‑month plan.

    • Self-leadership > chasing the newest hard skill (including AI)
    • Daily routines, reflection, and emotional regulation build earning capacity
    • Momentum comes from consistent actions (conversations, reading, learning)
    • Set a clear short-term plan to get unstuck and build confidence
  9. 34:30 – 37:57

    A practical goal framework: the $5,000 speech deadline and building “value” through reps

    Lewis details how a specific goal, deadline, and method created urgency and guided action: he aimed to earn $5,000 from one speech within nine months. The lesson is not “manifestation without work,” but building skills until your value appreciates.

    • Write a measurable goal + deadline + method (how you’ll earn it)
    • Visualize daily to keep direction without needing a 10-year plan
    • Do free reps (workshops, lunch-and-learns) to build competence
    • Value increases through practice; money follows demonstrated skill
  10. 37:57 – 44:32

    The 3 key steps to improving your relationship with money (tools you can start now)

    Lewis lays out a three-part roadmap: understand money wounds, reset mindset through education and conversation, and define a meaningful money mission. Mel reinforces that progress is built through unglamorous actions like opening bills, calling creditors, and tracking spending.

    • Step 1: Identify and journal money wounds (formative memories + stress triggers)
    • Step 2: Reset mindset by educating yourself, finding mentors, and practicing money talks
    • Step 3: Create a meaningful money mission tied to values and purpose
    • Mel’s tactical actions: open bills, call companies, audit spending/subscriptions, get honest
  11. 44:32 – 51:03

    Rewriting your story about money: from scarcity and self-criticism to peace and control

    They explore how shame-based self-talk (“I’m an idiot”) keeps people imprisoned, while compassion and clarity open the door to change. Lewis emphasizes that peace with money starts by understanding your story, then practicing new behaviors until safety replaces fear.

    • Scarcity energy blocks creativity, joy, and growth
    • Self-criticism traps you; self-compassion creates room to act
    • “Peace with money” is the real target—not just more income
    • Rewiring takes repetition: conversations, learning, and consistent behaviors
  12. 51:03 – 56:52

    Gratitude and language shifts: thanking money when it comes—and when it goes

    Lewis introduces a daily practice: express gratitude for income and for expenses, reframing bills as support for the life you’re building. Mel connects it to agency—being proud you can pay—and asks for simple mantras to begin changing internal language.

    • Thank money when it arrives to reinforce safety and appreciation
    • Also thank money when it leaves (taxes, loans, bills) to reduce stress loops
    • Reframe bills as tools: education, connection, stability, and progress
    • Starter mantras: “Money is good. Money is my friend. I feel safe with money.”
  13. 56:52 – 1:04:01

    Meaningful money missions for different seasons: safety first, then alignment and boundaries

    They discuss how money goals shift by life stage: sometimes the mission is simply paying bills and sleeping at night. Lewis explains the “priority pendulum” between practical survival and passion, aiming to move toward a meaningful middle—plus learning to say no to misaligned money.

    • A mission can be short-term (3 months) and still powerful
    • Priority pendulum: passion-chasing vs. pure practicality; seasons require different choices
    • Values-based clarity helps you resist social media “get/spend” pressure
    • Saying no to misaligned income protects long-term mission and identity
  14. 1:04:01 – 1:09:46

    Closing reflections: three truths, worthiness, and getting support instead of going it alone

    Mel asks Lewis his signature ‘three truths’ question, leading to lessons on health, gratitude, and pursuing the calling in your heart. Lewis closes by tying money healing to self-worth and love—encouraging listeners to seek mentors, therapy, and community support while doing the work.

    • Three truths: protect health, live in gratitude, pursue your dreams fully
    • Healing money struggles is connected to healing worthiness and receiving love
    • Don’t rebuild alone—reach out to mentors, guides, therapists, and friends
    • Mel’s final encouragement: you can learn these skills and create a better future

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