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This Simple Mindset Shift Will Change the Way You See Your Life

Life doesn’t always go according to plan. Even the changes you choose can bring uncertainty, questions, and moments where you wonder what’s next. Today’s episode will show you how to move forward and find something better on the other side. In it, Mel sits down with Dr. Maya Shankar, a cognitive scientist, expert on change, and New York Times bestselling author, for a powerful conversation about why change feels so hard and, more importantly, how to move on to become an even stronger, wiser version of yourself. If you’re trying to figure out how to leave the past behind and reinvent yourself when life doesn’t go the way you planned, this conversation will meet you exactly where you are – and help you see what’s possible. Together, Mel and Dr. Shankar unpack the science behind rebuilding when life takes an unexpected turn – and why you don’t need to have everything figured out to move forward. By the end, you’ll understand how to reshape the way you see yourself, stop negative thoughts from taking over, and move forward with clarity and confidence. You’ll learn: -How to leave the past in the past -The reset to help you start over after a setback -How to stop your mind from spiraling -Real motivation strategies to make change easier when you feel tired, stressed, or stuck - The reassuring mindset shift for more confidence and peace This episode will give you the mental reset and the tools you need to restart your life, move forward, and step into who you’re meant to be. For more resources related to today’s episode, click here for the podcast episode page: https://www.melrobbins.com/episode/episode-381. Follow The Mel Robbins Podcast on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/themelrobbinspodcast I’m just your friend. I am not a licensed therapist, and this podcast is NOT intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist, or other qualified professional. Got it? Good. I’ll see you in the next episode. In this episode: 0:00 Meet the Guest 4:01 When the Future You Planned Disappears (Divorce, Layoff, Loss) 9:35 Why Change is So Scary 11:32 How to Cope With Change: Small Shifts That Help Fast 15:30 How to Stop Fear of the Future (Your Brain Gets It Wrong) 18:42 Identity Foreclosure: When One Role Becomes Your Whole Identity 23:43 How to Cope With an Identity Crisis 25:37 Stuck in a Mental Spiral? Here’s Why It Happens + How to Stop It 28:00 Cognitive Reappraisal: The Reframe That Calms Your Nervous System 30:52 Mental Time Travel (Stop Overwhelm) 34:31 Visual Self-Distancing (Instant Perspective Shift) 38:24 When Distraction Is Healthy (And Why TV + Reading Helps You Reinvent Yourself) 41:59 The Key to Unlocking Your Brain’s Full Potential 43:08 Motivation Science: How to Get Yourself to Change Bad Habits — Follow Mel: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/melrobbins/ TikTok: http://tiktok.com/@melrobbins Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/melrobbins LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melrobbins Website: http://melrobbins.com​ — Sign up for Mel’s newsletter: https://melrob.co/sign-up-newsletter A note from Mel to you, twice a week, sharing simple, practical ways to build the life you want. — Subscribe to Mel’s channel here: https://www.youtube.com/melrobbins​?sub_confirmation=1 — Listen to The Mel Robbins Podcast 🎧 New episodes drop every Monday & Thursday! https://melrob.co/spotify https://melrob.co/applepodcasts https://melrob.co/amazonmusic — Looking for Mel’s books on Amazon? Find them here: The Let Them Theory: https://amzn.to/3IQ21Oe The Let Them Theory Audiobook: https://amzn.to/413SObp The High 5 Habit: https://amzn.to/3fMvfPQ The 5 Second Rule: https://amzn.to/4l54fah

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CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 4:01

    Why the right question is about your future self (core mindset shift)

    Maya Shankar opens with the central reframe: stop asking how “current you” will survive change, and start asking how “future you” will navigate it. Mel sets up the episode’s promise—practical, research-backed tools to change your relationship with disruption.

  2. 4:01 – 9:35

    A dream derailed: losing the violin identity at 15

    Maya recounts becoming a prodigy violinist and building her entire future around music—until a hand injury ended her performance career. The loss wasn’t only about an instrument; it triggered grief and a profound identity rupture.

  3. 9:35 – 11:32

    When the future you planned disappears: divorce, layoffs, moves, loss

    Mel connects Maya’s story to common life disruptions that force the “Who am I now?” question. Maya introduces a way to make identity more resilient so one change doesn’t collapse your sense of self.

  4. 11:32 – 15:30

    Why change is so scary: uncertainty and the illusion of control

    Maya explains the neuroscience/psychology of why disruption spikes anxiety. Uncertainty feels threatening, and people overestimate how much control they actually have—so change can feel like losing the steering wheel.

  5. 15:30 – 18:42

    Coping fast with small shifts: self-affirmation during real grief

    Maya shares a raw personal story about fertility struggles and pregnancy loss, and how a “gratitude” moment became a scientific self-affirmation exercise. The practice doesn’t erase pain; it widens perspective by reconnecting you to identities untouched by the change.

  6. 18:42 – 23:43

    Your brain mispredicts the future: affective forecasting and the ‘new you’ factor

    Maya explains that people are poor predictors of how future events will feel (good or bad) and tend to return toward a happiness “set point.” A major reason forecasts fail: we forget we will change too, gaining capacities and perspective.

  7. 23:43 – 25:37

    Identity foreclosure: when one role becomes your whole self

    Maya defines identity foreclosure as prematurely anchoring identity to a narrow label without exploring alternatives. This makes losses (or delays, like not finding a partner yet) feel like existential threats rather than transitions.

  8. 25:37 – 28:00

    Possible selves: reopening doors after an identity crisis

    Maya introduces “possible selves”—the hoped-for, feared, and expected versions of you that guide decisions and emotions. During upheaval, feared doors swing open and hoped-for doors close; the skill is expanding imagination to generate more promising alternatives.

  9. 28:00 – 30:52

    Stuck in a mental spiral: why rumination happens

    Mel reads a passage describing “mind worms,” and Maya explains spirals as the brain’s attempt to regain control via cognitive closure. Rumination feels productive (“If I can just figure it out…”) but often loops on unanswerable questions.

  10. 30:52 – 34:31

    Cognitive reappraisal: the reframe that calms your nervous system

    Maya defines cognitive reappraisal as deliberately changing interpretation to shift emotional impact. Mel connects it to grief expert David Kessler’s “Even if…” language—a way to acknowledge reality without feeding endless ‘what if’ spirals.

  11. 34:31 – 38:24

    Mental time travel + mining the past to stop overwhelm

    Maya offers a quick rumination interrupter: project yourself forward (5 hours/days/years) to shrink the perceived permanence of a problem. If you still feel stuck, “mine” your past for proof you’ve escaped similar spirals before or shown resilience you forgot you had.

  12. 38:24 – 41:59

    Visual self-distancing: coach yourself like a friend (instant perspective shift)

    Maya explains how switching from first-person self-talk to a distanced, third-person stance increases self-compassion and objectivity. Using your own name (“Maya, you’ve got this”) helps you separate your identity from the problem and move into problem-solving mode.

  13. 41:59 – 43:08

    Healthy distraction, fiction as an ‘identity laboratory,’ and exploring without an end goal

    Maya pushes back on the idea that you must always confront emotions head-on; distraction can be adaptive when it isn’t suppression. She also recommends fiction and broad exposure to ideas as safe ways to try on new identities—especially after a role loss.

  14. 43:08 – 52:34

    Unlocking brain potential through discomfort + motivation science for lasting change

    Maya argues discomfort is a gateway to neuroplasticity: challenge and even failure trigger learning signals in the brain. She then shares motivation tools—start tiny, avoid the “middle problem,” use temptation bundling, and hack memory with the peak-end rule to make habits stick.

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