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This Simple Mindset Shift Will Change the Way You See Your Life

Life doesn’t always go according to plan. Even the changes you choose can bring uncertainty, questions, and moments where you wonder what’s next. Today’s episode will show you how to move forward and find something better on the other side. In it, Mel sits down with Dr. Maya Shankar, a cognitive scientist, expert on change, and New York Times bestselling author, for a powerful conversation about why change feels so hard and, more importantly, how to move on to become an even stronger, wiser version of yourself. If you’re trying to figure out how to leave the past behind and reinvent yourself when life doesn’t go the way you planned, this conversation will meet you exactly where you are – and help you see what’s possible. Together, Mel and Dr. Shankar unpack the science behind rebuilding when life takes an unexpected turn – and why you don’t need to have everything figured out to move forward. By the end, you’ll understand how to reshape the way you see yourself, stop negative thoughts from taking over, and move forward with clarity and confidence. You’ll learn: -How to leave the past in the past -The reset to help you start over after a setback -How to stop your mind from spiraling -Real motivation strategies to make change easier when you feel tired, stressed, or stuck - The reassuring mindset shift for more confidence and peace This episode will give you the mental reset and the tools you need to restart your life, move forward, and step into who you’re meant to be. For more resources related to today’s episode, click here for the podcast episode page: https://www.melrobbins.com/episode/episode-381. Follow The Mel Robbins Podcast on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/themelrobbinspodcast I’m just your friend. I am not a licensed therapist, and this podcast is NOT intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist, or other qualified professional. Got it? Good. I’ll see you in the next episode. In this episode: 0:00 Meet the Guest 4:01 When the Future You Planned Disappears (Divorce, Layoff, Loss) 9:35 Why Change is So Scary 11:32 How to Cope With Change: Small Shifts That Help Fast 15:30 How to Stop Fear of the Future (Your Brain Gets It Wrong) 18:42 Identity Foreclosure: When One Role Becomes Your Whole Identity 23:43 How to Cope With an Identity Crisis 25:37 Stuck in a Mental Spiral? Here’s Why It Happens + How to Stop It 28:00 Cognitive Reappraisal: The Reframe That Calms Your Nervous System 30:52 Mental Time Travel (Stop Overwhelm) 34:31 Visual Self-Distancing (Instant Perspective Shift) 38:24 When Distraction Is Healthy (And Why TV + Reading Helps You Reinvent Yourself) 41:59 The Key to Unlocking Your Brain’s Full Potential 43:08 Motivation Science: How to Get Yourself to Change Bad Habits — Follow Mel: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/melrobbins/ TikTok: http://tiktok.com/@melrobbins Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/melrobbins LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melrobbins Website: http://melrobbins.com​ — Sign up for Mel’s newsletter: https://melrob.co/sign-up-newsletter A note from Mel to you, twice a week, sharing simple, practical ways to build the life you want. — Subscribe to Mel’s channel here: https://www.youtube.com/melrobbins​?sub_confirmation=1 — Listen to The Mel Robbins Podcast 🎧 New episodes drop every Monday & Thursday! https://melrob.co/spotify https://melrob.co/applepodcasts https://melrob.co/amazonmusic — Looking for Mel’s books on Amazon? Find them here: The Let Them Theory: https://amzn.to/3IQ21Oe The Let Them Theory Audiobook: https://amzn.to/413SObp The High 5 Habit: https://amzn.to/3fMvfPQ The 5 Second Rule: https://amzn.to/4l54fah

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Mar 26, 202652mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Bet on your future self to navigate life’s disruptions better

  1. Dr. Maya Shankar reframes fear of change by urging people to trust the “future self” who will have new skills and perspective to handle what’s coming.
  2. The episode explains why change is psychologically hard—uncertainty, illusion of control, and poor affective forecasting that exaggerates how bad (or good) outcomes will feel.
  3. Shankar argues that identity crises often stem from “identity foreclosure,” where a single role (athlete, spouse, job title) becomes the whole self, and losing it feels like losing your worth.
  4. Practical tools are taught to interrupt spirals and calm emotions, including cognitive reappraisal (“even if”), mental time travel, and visual self-distancing via third-person self-talk.
  5. For self-directed change, the conversation emphasizes small actions and motivation design—breaking goals into chunks, temptation bundling, and using the peak-end rule to make hard habits feel more repeatable.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Ask the future-self question, not the panic question.

Replace “How will I get through this?” with “How will the new version of me navigate this?” to reduce overwhelm and restore agency by assuming growth will occur alongside the disruption.

Define yourself by why you do something, not only what you do.

When a role disappears (job, relationship, sport), identifying the underlying value (e.g., connection, service, creativity) reveals new outlets and prevents identity collapse.

Your brain is lying about how terrible (or amazing) the future will feel.

Affective forecasting errors make people overestimate lasting misery after losses and lasting happiness after wins; remembering adaptation and change in the self lowers fear.

Rumination is a control-seeking loop, not real problem-solving.

Mental spirals often aim for “cognitive closure,” but many life questions don’t have definitive answers; naming this dynamic helps you stop feeding the loop.

Reframe without denying reality.

Cognitive reappraisal changes interpretation while keeping facts intact; prompts like “even if” can interrupt “what if” catastrophizing and soften emotional intensity.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

The right question is not, 'How am I going to get through this?' It’s, 'How will that new version of me navigate this change?'

— Dr. Maya Shankar

We don’t know sometimes how much something has come to define who we are until we lose it.

— Dr. Maya Shankar

We are notoriously bad affective forecasters.

— Dr. Maya Shankar

Discomfort is the key to unlocking our brain’s potential.

— Dr. Maya Shankar

Bet on your future self.

— Dr. Maya Shankar

Mindset shift: trust the future version of youAffective forecasting and the happiness set pointUncertainty, illusion of control, and cognitive closureIdentity foreclosure and building multifaceted identityPossible selves (hoped-for, feared, expected)Stopping rumination: reappraisal, time travel, self-distancingMotivation tools: small steps, temptation bundling, peak-end ruleHealthy distraction and fiction as an “identity laboratory”Neuroplasticity: discomfort and learning through failure

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