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Order your copy of The Let Them Theory 👉 https://melrob.co/let-them-theory 👈 The #1 Best Selling Book of 2025 🔥 Discover how much power you truly have. It all begins with two simple words. Let Them. — You know those days when you just feel “off”? Well, last week, both my friend Amy and I were having bad days. Thankfully, I had just had an appointment with my amazing #therapist that morning. So, as Amy and I started to talk about why we didn’t “feel like ourselves,” I got this crazy idea that maybe we should invite YOU to join us as the conversation started to unfold. We decided to turn on a recording device and unpack how we were feeling – on the fly. I need to say: I stole everything you’re about to hear from my therapist Anne, and you should steal it too. This is way more than just learning how to put on a #happy face. These tools are truly transformational because they help you tap back into the incredible power within you. This is a very intimate and special episode that unfolds live. So I’m inviting you right now: pull up a seat at the kitchen table with Amy and me. Join us. Don’t just listen, but close your eyes and do the exercises with us. Do not miss out on what happens near the end. It is magical and I certainly did not see it coming. And I know you’re going to want to see the cowboy boots: don’t worry, they are in the show notes on my website here. Xo Mel In this episode you will learn: - Why you sometimes feel “off” even when nothing is wrong - Why anxiety hits even when you are riding a high - How to identify where #anxiety lives in your body - How your body senses your emotions - What temporal and seasonal triggers are - How I am replacing “repressing” with “individuating” and why that scares me - How #trauma as a child becomes triggers as an adult - Why we fall back on old habits that keep us feeling protected - What our 2 states of “being” are - How to not be scared of your “injured self” (and what that even means) - How specific memories can bring peace, presence, and connection - How to spot the creative, flow states in your life - How to allow yourself to received and be connected - How to notice where you grip onto old habits and patterns - Habits that help you reach a flow state In this episode: 00:00 Intro 03:19 I don’t know how to fix my bad mood and I don’t want to 07:38 Key Concept: Temporal and seasonal triggers 10:07 The therapy session I NEEDED with Anne Devin 10:54 Tool: Identifying where the anxiety lives in your body 16:08 Key Concept: Individuating instead of repressing 17:45 Processing trauma and ties to triggering memories 22:17 Falling back on old habits that have keeps you feeling protected 30:17 Key Concept: Our 2 states of “being” 34:48 Tool: Stop acting from your “injured self” 37:44 Key Concept: Cognitive behavioral theory of “The Rattle” 40:33 Tool: Find a specific memory that brings peace, presence, connection 43:57 Becoming completely connected to the divine 55:42 Tool: My protector image 58:26 Signs that strengthen the circuitry wired for flow state 1:00:48 You have to love yourself a little harder — Follow Mel: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/melrobbins/ TikTok: http://tiktok.com/@melrobbins Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/melrobbins LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melrobbins Website: http://melrobbins.com​ — Sign up for Mel’s newsletter: https://melrob.co/sign-up-newsletter A note from Mel to you, twice a week, sharing simple, practical ways to build the life you want. — Subscribe to Mel’s channel here: https://www.youtube.com/melrobbins​?sub_confirmation=1 — Listen to The Mel Robbins Podcast 🎧 New episodes drop every Monday & Thursday! https://melrob.co/spotify https://melrob.co/applepodcasts https://melrob.co/amazonmusic — Looking for Mel’s books on Amazon? Find them here: The Let Them Theory: https://amzn.to/3IQ21Oe The Let Them Theory Audiobook: https://amzn.to/413SObp The High 5 Habit: https://amzn.to/3fMvfPQ The 5 Second Rule: https://amzn.to/4l54fah

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  1. 0:003:19

    Intro

    1. MR

      (ticking sound) I said to Amy, "How you doing?" And she looked at me and she said...

    2. AM

      "Everything's great, and I'm just in a bad mood today."

    3. MR

      You said something about like you need to take responsibility for how you're feeling or whatever. W- why can't you just be in a bad mood?

    4. AM

      I think there are two parts to it. Number one, I don't like the feeling of being in a bad mood. Let's unpack that. (instrumental music plays)

    5. MR

      Hey, it's Mel, and welcome to the Mel Robbins podcast. I'm excited to see what happens here because I was just sitting here talking to my friend Amy.

    6. AM

      Hey, everyone.

    7. MR

      And, uh, Amy's always in a good mood and she looked a little off today and so I said, "Are you okay? How you doing?"

    8. AM

      Yeah. And I said, "No. I don't feel like myself today."

    9. MR

      I'm like, you, you literally s- l- I mean, can you hear? It sounds like she's gonna start crying. And so I said, "I think that we should talk about this."

    10. AM

      Yeah. I, I, yeah, let's talk about it. But let's, maybe we don't do it with the video.

    11. MR

      Oh, that's totally cool.

    12. AM

      We don't need to.

    13. MR

      You're cool with it, us recording this conversation?

    14. AM

      Absolutely.

    15. MR

      Okay, great.

    16. AM

      Let's just not do video.

    17. MR

      Okay. Go ahead.

    18. AM

      Okay. All right.

    19. MR

      All righty. (instrumental music plays) I am so excited because I was just sitting here talking with my friend Amy and we also work together. I said to Amy, "How you doing?" And she looked at me and she said...

    20. AM

      Like, "Everything's great, and I'm just in a bad mood today. I feel like below the line. Not so great."

    21. MR

      Well, what does below the line mean? What does that mean?

    22. AM

      Below the line is like, (sighs) it just means that you're, you're in a state of mind where you basically like can't really take responsibility for how you feel almost. Like you're... Yeah, like it's like a weird thing, like it's... I wish I could explain it better and, and maybe I will but it's kind of like you're just in kind of like blame mode where you're not taking responsibility for your own stuff and you're just kinda like, "Oh, God." You know? My husband, like, it's so annoying.

    23. MR

      Oh!

    24. AM

      Like that sorta thing.

    25. MR

      Got it.

    26. AM

      So you feel like, it's like a victim mode.

    27. MR

      So is that- so when you say that you're... 'Cause, 'cause here's what I want you guys to know, 'cause you're gonna get to know Amy-

    28. AM

      (laughs) .

    29. MR

      ... as you begin (laughs) listen to more and more podcast episodes.

    30. AM

      'Cause she's really screwed up and-

  2. 3:197:38

    I don’t know how to fix my bad mood and I don’t want to

    1. MR

    2. AM

      I know.

    3. MR

      ... eyes but they started getting a little watery-

    4. AM

      I know.

    5. MR

      ... as you said, "I'm kinda sad."

    6. AM

      Yeah.

    7. MR

      And, or mad. You said mad though, I thought you said.

    8. AM

      Did I say that?

    9. MR

      Or bad mood. You said bad-

    10. AM

      I'm in a bad mood.

    11. MR

      These are all words that rhyme. Bad-

    12. AM

      (laughs) .

    13. MR

      ... sad, mad. Well, let's turn this into rad. So here's what I wanted to talk to you about.

    14. AM

      Yeah.

    15. MR

      I, I had a therapy call this morning and this tool that my therapist, Anne Davin, just shared with me, I not only think, I know it's gonna help you because it really helped me. But before I share that tool with you, I just wanna ask you a question. You said something about like you need to take responsibility for how you're feeling or whatever. W- why can't you just be in a bad mood?

    16. AM

      I think there are two parts to it. Number one, I don't like the feeling of being in a bad mood. Let's unpack that. Um, and then number two is I don't know how to be in a bad mood. Like, and just let it go. Like, feel the feelings and just let them go. It's like I feel kinda like I don't know, I, how do I do this? Like how do I manage myself through this bad mood? Because I'll tell you what, like when you're somebody w- when you have this... I don't even know how to say this but I'll just say it very plainly, like when you're normally in a good mood-

    17. MR

      Yeah.

    18. AM

      ... and then you're in a bad mood, people notice.

    19. MR

      Yeah.

    20. AM

      People ask you like, "Hey, what's up?"

    21. MR

      Yeah.

    22. AM

      And then you kinda feel like, "Am I the barometer?" Like, this is... I'm having a bad day. I, I just need my time. And then so that external stuff, the people asking you about it, makes you feel kinda like, "What is going on? What is happening with me?"

    23. MR

      Did something happen or did you just wake up in a bad mood?

    24. AM

      I just woke up in a bad mood.

    25. MR

      I blame mebo- menopause.

    26. AM

      (sighs)

    27. MR

      No, I'm just kidding.

    28. AM

      Good call.

    29. MR

      No.

    30. AM

      Good call.

  3. 7:3810:07

    Key Concept: Temporal and seasonal triggers

    1. MR

      beautiful house that we've been building.

    2. TG

      (laughs)

    3. MR

      And the man is wearing a red flannel shirt.

    4. TG

      Yes.

    5. MR

      He looks very Vermont handsome.

    6. TG

      He had clogs on, like, right?

    7. MR

      He had clogs with wool socks on.

    8. TG

      With wool socks.

    9. MR

      Yep.

    10. TG

      Yes.

    11. MR

      Yep. He w- he was just looking amazing.

    12. TG

      Yes.

    13. MR

      The colors are exploding. I see two women that I adore, that I love. I see Amy, who you're listening to.

    14. TG

      (laughs)

    15. MR

      I see Jessie.

    16. TG

      Yeah.

    17. MR

      It's just perfection.

    18. TG

      Yes.

    19. MR

      And as I walk into this house-

    20. TG

      Oh.

    21. MR

      ... and I see you guys, I feel a massive wave of anxiety.

    22. TG

      Maybe you felt my anxiety? (laughs)

    23. MR

      I don't know. It wasn't yours, I, it was mine.

    24. TG

      You felt some... Okay.

    25. MR

      It wasn't yours, it was mine.

    26. TG

      Yeah.

    27. MR

      And I felt myself literally leaving my body. And-

    28. TG

      Oh, my gosh.

    29. MR

      I put my hand on my heart, and I used the tools from the episode that we did with Dr. Kennedy-

    30. TG

      Yeah. Yeah.

  4. 10:0710:54

    The therapy session I NEEDED with Anne Devin

    1. MR

      our girls are going, 'I wish I were there, I wish I were there.' And it makes me sad that they can't be here-

    2. TG

      Yeah.

    3. MR

      ... because they can't drive from LA right now-

    4. TG

      Yeah.

    5. MR

      ... and they've got a job in Boston right now." And I felt this deep sadness. And I'm like, "But I don't think that's what it is." So fast forward, and lo and behold, it wasn't a massage appointment that was waiting for me when those green lights on 3rd Avenue kept hitting.

    6. TG

      (laughs)

    7. MR

      I had a therapy call in place-

    8. TG

      Nice.

    9. MR

      ... for today. And so when I get on with my just profoundly gifted therapist, Anne Davin-

    10. TG

      Yeah, I'm so glad you go to therapy.

    11. MR

      Oh my God, Anne Davin, you are my saving grace.

    12. TG

      And, and-

    13. MR

      I love this woman.

    14. TG

      ... mine too, Anne.

    15. MR

      (laughs)

    16. TG

      You, you didn't know this (laughs) but, um, it's a two-for-one when you talk to Mel, I get the, I get

  5. 10:5416:08

    Tool: Identifying where the anxiety lives in your body

    1. TG

      the goods to this, so I, like-

    2. MR

      I always unpack my therapy sessions-

    3. TG

      Yeah.

    4. MR

      ... with you or with Chris.

    5. TG

      It's really good. Yeah, she is-

    6. MR

      And she's unbelievable.

    7. TG

      Unbelievable.

    8. MR

      So I say to her, I kee- I, I explain this whole delicious Disney scene.

    9. TG

      Yeah.

    10. MR

      Just like your life has been this Disney-esque thing for the last two months, right?

    11. TG

      Right.

    12. MR

      Of everything is working.

    13. TG

      Yeah.

    14. MR

      Even in the ups and downs-

    15. TG

      Yeah.

    16. MR

      ... it's working, right?

    17. TG

      Right, it's like, yeah.

    18. MR

      And, um, I say to her, after describing these past 14 amazing days-

    19. TG

      Yeah.

    20. MR

      ... she had me close my eyes, and she asked me where in my body was I feeling this thing.

    21. TG

      Mm-hmm.

    22. MR

      And I said it was, for me, a, uh, it was almost like a, a, uh, like a, a brass corset that you would expect somebody to wear on House of Dragons-

    23. TG

      Ooh.

    24. MR

      ... around my lower, uh, ribs.

    25. TG

      Yeah.

    26. MR

      Do, where do you feel, like, the heaviness and the sadness?

    27. TG

      Like the upper, the upper chest, you know?

    28. MR

      Yeah.

    29. TG

      Like maybe even into the neck-

    30. MR

      Uh-huh.

  6. 16:0817:45

    Key Concept: Individuating instead of repressing

    1. MR

      moment for me in my anxiety. And every fall, uh, junior and senior year of high school, every fall of Dartmouth, the fall I spent overseas, horrible, the three falls I spent in law school, horrible, and then I met Chris the first year I lived in New York at the end of the fall season. And I said to her, I said, "I think there is a connection with this feeling and the season of fall."

    2. AM

      W- And what's... Why? Like, what do you, what do you think that's all about?

    3. MR

      Well, she said, "Well, it makes sense because here you are at a moment in your development where you're basically..." I think the word is individuating, indi-

    4. AM

      Yes, okay.

    5. MR

      What's... Is that the right word?

    6. AM

      I mean, I don't know if it's individuating, but yeah, like, you're, you're, you're becoming your own self and you're, like, realizing your shit and, like-

    7. MR

      Yes.

    8. AM

      ... yeah, taking-

    9. MR

      Yes.

    10. AM

      ... responsibility for it.

    11. MR

      Yes.

    12. AM

      Yeah, yeah.

    13. MR

      And you're not diagnosed with anxiety yet.

    14. AM

      Right.

    15. MR

      And you are coping with alcohol-

    16. AM

      Yeah.

    17. MR

      ... and by attaching yourself in a very, like, suffocating, meaning Mel, you're suffocating him, relationship. (laughs)

    18. AM

      (laughs) Yeah.

    19. MR

      And, you know, I even said to her, "I didn't really engage in classes either."

    20. AM

      No.

    21. MR

      Like, I literally was checked out for most of my college years.

    22. AM

      I- I relate to that so much. Like, and everybody says, like, college is this amazing t- Like, when you have trauma in your past, like, you can barely remember it.

    23. MR

      Yeah.

  7. 17:4522:17

    Processing trauma and ties to triggering memories

    1. MR

    2. AM

      You're like, "I hope I did okay."

    3. MR

      Yeah.

    4. AM

      I have report cards that a- are in my dresser in my parents' house that have never been opened.

    5. MR

      Oh, my God.

    6. AM

      Like, I was just like, "I hope I did okay." I couldn't even look at 'em.

    7. MR

      Oh, my God.

    8. AM

      So yeah, it's like, it's, it's, it's... Yes, you're in college and you're having a hard time, yeah.

    9. MR

      And so I then kept going. And she said, "And, you know, there's two things going on. You process seasons and seasonal changes both through the limbic brain-"

    10. AM

      Okay.

    11. MR

      "... and through, like, circadian rhythm."

    12. AM

      Okay, and?

    13. MR

      "And so you're processing things from a psychological and a emotional and chemical and physiological level."

    14. AM

      Oh.

    15. MR

      "And as the days get shorter and as night starts to go and as this huge season of tra- change happens-"

    16. AM

      And the smell too.

    17. MR

      Yep.

    18. AM

      Like, the smell of fall and-

    19. MR

      Yep, yep.

    20. AM

      ... all the triggers of fall. They're huge.

    21. MR

      Yep, yep. And she said...... that, you know, this is triggering all your stored memories-

    22. AM

      Oh.

    23. MR

      ... of all the very difficult transitions that you went through as a young adult-

    24. AM

      Right.

    25. MR

      ... in fall, marked by your self-hatred, marked by your disassociation.

    26. AM

      Wow.

    27. MR

      So, it gets even cooler and better. So I'm now like, "Oh my God, I have to move from Vermont."

    28. AM

      (gasps) .

    29. MR

      I can't live in the mountains. I can't live surrounded by the fall.

    30. AM

      (laughs) .

  8. 22:1730:17

    Falling back on old habits that have keeps you feeling protected

    1. MR

      to all these beautiful colors, and you're in a state of awe, and it's just incredible, and then you walk into this beautiful house, and all there is to do is for you to just be, that injured part of you, that, that kid that was sitting in that seat in high school being sent to hell, that kid that felt lonely, or sad, or unseen, that part of you looks for a place to plug in." And it was r- and she said, "And what you always did is you disassociated."

    2. AM

      Mm-hmm.

    3. MR

      "And that's all that's happened." And she also then said, "The fact that you recognized it, the fact that you recognized that your mind started racing for answers..." So of course she would go, "Well, my daughters aren't here, that's why I'm sad, that's why..."

    4. AM

      Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

    5. MR

      That's not why I feel this. I feel this because my body... And I learned this from Dr. Becky. You are an adult living in the body that you were born in, fashioned by the experiences that your mind doesn't have a story to tell about. And so, I still have that body of feeling sad and feeling lonely, and the only thing that my body does in those moments is it disassociates. And so the opportunity for me in those moments is to notice it, to not try to change it-

    6. AM

      Right.

    7. MR

      ... 'cause I've decided that tonight... I said to Chris, "All I wanna do is lay on the couch with you and watch a movie-

    8. AM

      Right.

    9. MR

      ... like I used to do when I was a kid. (music) Just wanna watch a movie.

    10. AM

      Sounds awesome.

    11. MR

      So Amy, what are you getting from this?

    12. AM

      Immediately when, you know, when I, I, I, when you did that exercise with like where do you feel, where do you feel your shit? I don't know. What's that exercise called, like where do you feel your-

    13. MR

      W- you, you close your eyes-

    14. AM

      Yeah, you... Right.

    15. MR

      ... and you, like where do you feel the pressure, or the tension-

    16. AM

      Right.

    17. MR

      ... or the sadness? And tell everybody what you said again.

    18. AM

      Right.

    19. MR

      Let's, and, and I'll walk you through it.

    20. AM

      Like my upper chest and my, and my neck area is where I felt it.

    21. MR

      And what, do you feel it now?

    22. AM

      You know, it's still there, but it's, it's significantly less.

    23. MR

      And can you visualize that oily, viscous thing-... floating out in front of you?

    24. AM

      Yeah. I actually find it easier to take a step back from it, but yeah, same thing.

    25. MR

      And when you turn it into yourself at any age, what is it?

    26. AM

      Oh, I immediately feel so bad for that kid. Just, I just feel so bad for that kid. And what comes up for me is just being left out, you know? Not being, like, the favorite, not ever being able to be the favorite.

    27. MR

      Did this happen 'cause you listened to the episode on-

    28. AM

      (laughs)

    29. MR

      ... narcissism, by any chance?

    30. AM

      I happened to do that (laughs) . I happened to do that, yes.

  9. 30:1734:48

    Key Concept: Our 2 states of “being”

    1. MR

      great soft red flannel shirt.

    2. AM

      (laughs) Yeah. Right.

    3. MR

      Faherty, if you ever wanna sponsor this podcast-

    4. AM

      (laughs)

    5. MR

      ... let me know, because my son, husband and son live in the legend plaid shirts.

    6. AM

      (laughs)

    7. MR

      Um, great hugging shirts, by the way. Um, I... And it was a nice long hug.

    8. AM

      Yeah.

    9. MR

      And it didn't... You know, it got, it left the, it let the alarm go away, but I still felt-... that sort of out-of-body experience.

    10. AM

      Yeah.

    11. MR

      And it was talking to my therapist, Anne Davin-

    12. AM

      Mm-hmm.

    13. MR

      ... and her going, "Well, there are two parts of you, and there's two parts of all of us. There's two parts of Amy. There's two parts of you. There's the part of you that is..." I'm just gonna use the word divine.

    14. AM

      Mm-hmm.

    15. MR

      That you have the ability to tap into this flow state. You have magic to offer the world.

    16. AM

      Yeah.

    17. MR

      It's those moments where you're lost in laughter, or wonder, or awe, or creativity-

    18. AM

      Yeah.

    19. MR

      ... where things feel effortless, where you feel like connected to something bigger. And I am working my ass off to figure out how to stay in that space more-

    20. AM

      Yeah.

    21. MR

      ... and not spend so much time in the other part of us, which is the injured part-

    22. AM

      Mm-hmm.

    23. MR

      ... the part of us from childhood that had to cope with whatever was happening to you as a young kid-

    24. AM

      Yeah.

    25. MR

      ... most of which I'm learning more and more as we interview experts on this podcast and talk to people about their lived experiences, that happened to you before you were even five, which means the only story you have about it is the story adults have told you about it.

    26. AM

      Right.

    27. MR

      If you even have a story about it. But your body has a memory of it.

    28. AM

      Yeah.

    29. MR

      And so these deep emotions, like the sadness that you're feeling-

    30. AM

      Mm-hmm.

  10. 34:4837:44

    Tool: Stop acting from your “injured self”

    1. MR

      unbelievable transition, that involves not only the color but the weather, and very soon we're gonna have my least favorite day of the year, which is the day we turn the clocks back-

    2. AM

      Oh, Lord.

    3. MR

      ... and it becomes dark-

    4. AM

      Yeah.

    5. MR

      ... at 3:00 in the afternoon, and I start to feel like winter is coming and it's Game of Throne's final episode...

    6. AM

      Oh my God, Mel. (laughs)

    7. MR

      Cue the seasonal depression light ads.

    8. AM

      Oh, Lord.

    9. MR

      And I, and I, and I just... No wonder-

    10. AM

      Yeah.

    11. MR

      ... I'm reaching for the uh-oh. But I now have tools-

    12. AM

      Yeah.

    13. MR

      ... to not be scared of it and to be able to go, "Oh, that's that part of me that I call, you know, the injured self."

    14. AM

      So, what does Anne say? Like, is she like, "We have to break this habit"?

    15. MR

      No, she says-

    16. AM

      What does- No.

    17. MR

      She's literally like, "Nobody can ever live..." Unfortunately, there's a lot of us that live in the injured self all day long.

    18. AM

      Yeah.

    19. MR

      I did for decades.

    20. AM

      Right.

    21. MR

      When you start to become aware and you start to work on your own healing-

    22. AM

      Yeah, the pain body, that- that's what Eckhart Tolle calls the pain body, you're just constantly, like, in your own pain all day long, like-

    23. MR

      Yeah.

    24. AM

      ... you're creating your own misery.

    25. MR

      Yeah.

    26. AM

      Campaign of Misery.

    27. MR

      Yeah.

    28. AM

      Yeah.

    29. MR

      Campaign of Misery.

    30. AM

      Yeah, okay, yeah, go ahead.

  11. 37:4440:33

    Key Concept: Cognitive behavioral theory of “The Rattle”

    1. MR

      from this 14-day amazing high on a roller coaster that was incredible-

    2. AM

      Yeah.

    3. MR

      ... to refinding my balance as I step into, you know, again, a new home, and-

    4. AM

      Yeah.

    5. MR

      ... a totally different energy.

    6. AM

      Yeah. Or maybe just a different 14 days, that's gonna be great too.

    7. MR

      Yeah. Yeah.

    8. AM

      But it's like you gotta get off that roller coaster.

    9. MR

      Yeah.

    10. AM

      You can't stay on it the whole time.

    11. MR

      And so you wanna know, here's, here's what I'm gonna leave you with.

    12. AM

      Okay.

    13. MR

      The injured self is that shaky feeling, Ann calls it the rattle-

    14. AM

      Oh God, yeah.

    15. MR

      ... that's still there from childhood, will probably always be there from childhood-

    16. AM

      Mm-hmm.

    17. MR

      ... going, "Hey, remember me?"

    18. AM

      Mm-hmm.

    19. MR

      There's still a part of me that's sad, there's still a part of me that's scared.

    20. AM

      Mm-hmm.

    21. MR

      And it's that period of time after you get off the roller coaster that's divine where you feel shaky until you find your footing again.

    22. AM

      Mm-hmm.

    23. MR

      And that's all that it is. And so the good news for both of us is that you've been flying for two months.

    24. AM

      Yeah.

    25. MR

      And when you say, "I don't feel like myself," what's fucking awesome is you now have an experience of yourself as being a happy, golden child-

    26. AM

      Yeah.

    27. MR

      ... because you are on this f- on this team.

    28. AM

      Right. (laughs) .

    29. MR

      That's how we all see you-

    30. AM

      Yeah, no, everybody-

  12. 40:3343:57

    Tool: Find a specific memory that brings peace, presence, connection

    1. MR

      platform-

    2. AM

      Yeah.

    3. MR

      ... and I'm like, "Woo, ho, whoa." And I'm like-

    4. AM

      Right.

    5. MR

      ... shaky.

    6. AM

      Yeah.

    7. MR

      Because I'm going from this really high amazing state into kinda my day-to-day life, and that's always where the injured person shows up.

    8. AM

      Yeah. Wow. So what did you get when you felt that brass corset and you did that exercise with Ann and you, you let it go? (music playing) What happened?

    9. MR

      Great question. Ann did a second exercise with me. I'll walk you through it next. Okay, so the second exercise that Ann did with me was this. She said, "Okay, in the past 14 days, I want you to come up with a very specific memory that really is magical. You were present in the moment, you felt connected, you were happy, and like just describe a moment like that." And so I described this moment where on Friday night of parents' weekend, uh, Kendall's music friends, uh, they're all in the pop music program, they just threw like this impromptu thing where kids were doing an open mic night on someone's porch.

    10. AM

      Awesome. Yeah.

    11. MR

      So here we are in a random neighborhood in Downtown LA-

    12. AM

      (laughs) .

    13. MR

      ... so freaking awesome, and there is this awesome kid like just banging it out on the, the kind of keyboard and he was singing these great songs and there are, I don't know, like 17 kids sitting there and a couple parents standing around. And all of a sudden Kendall rolls up with her music friends as this awesome kid's playing and she's got her guitar and the other guy's got like a drum like thing and another one's got a keyboard and somebody else has another guitar, and they were like the big kids coming in.

    14. AM

      (laughs) .

    15. MR

      And I- like, this is just my vibe, right?

    16. AM

      Yeah. Yeah.

    17. MR

      And so like as a parent, like, and you gotta understand, she's been in this music program for four years and because of COVID, I've been able to see her perform live once.

    18. AM

      Mm-hmm.

    19. MR

      That's it. And so she has been in this program for four years.... working with these Grammy Award-winning artists, the greats of the greats, getting all of this training, music industry stuff. It's just been unbelievable. I've, I've not seen what's going on-

    20. AM

      So you're about-

    21. MR

      ... live.

    22. AM

      ... to see it go down.

    23. MR

      And this is just, like, a casual thing on somebody's-

    24. AM

      Yeah.

    25. MR

      ... front porch, right?

    26. AM

      Yeah, yeah, right. Peeling paint on the front porch-

    27. MR

      Oh, yeah-

    28. AM

      ... like, the whole thing.

    29. MR

      ... and bricks falling off-

    30. AM

      Yeah, yeah.

  13. 43:5755:42

    Becoming completely connected to the divine

    1. MR

      25 other people's rolling in, and they're like, "Hey, I hear Kendall singing."

    2. AM

      Oh my gosh.

    3. MR

      So all of a sudden, like, all these people start showing up.

    4. AM

      Oh my gosh. That's so cool.

    5. MR

      And as she starts to sing, all these phones go up.

    6. AM

      Oh my gosh.

    7. MR

      And there is this full moon rising-

    8. AM

      Oh, no.

    9. MR

      ... above the teeny little, you know, rundown college-

    10. AM

      Right.

    11. MR

      ... student house next door!

    12. AM

      (laughs) Right.

    13. MR

      And her voice was so insane. She was so in her element. I, I just... To witness somebody-

    14. AM

      Oh, yeah.

    15. MR

      ... in a state like that, like, just given their gift-

    16. AM

      Yeah.

    17. MR

      ... completely connected to the divine that I think is inside all of us.

    18. AM

      Mm-hmm.

    19. MR

      So I just stood. Like, I was just so in awe of who she's become-

    20. AM

      Yeah.

    21. MR

      ... and that experience of watching her share this gift and watching the result of years and years and years of work, not only on singing and, and music but also on her confidence and-

    22. AM

      Mm-hmm. Yeah.

    23. MR

      ... you know, figuring out who she is.

    24. AM

      Yeah.

    25. MR

      And so Anne said, "Great. Close your eyes. Where is that in your body?" And so I told her it was kinda, like, between my belly button and my, my, um... the hell is it called? Uh, pelvis.

    26. AM

      Mm-hmm.

    27. MR

      And she said, "Great. I want you to feel the full moon on you. I want you to hear your daughter's incredible voice."

    28. KR

      Tell me something I need to know. And take my breath and never let it go. If you just let me invade your space. Gonna take the pleasure, take away the pain.

    29. MR

      And as she told me-

    30. KR

      And if at all it never was.

  14. 55:4258:26

    Tool: My protector image

    1. MR

      in therapy, whenever I, my therapist is like, "Okay, what's an image of protection for you?" What do I say?

    2. KR

      Buckbeak. (laughs)

    3. MR

      (laughs) What did she say? (laughs) Say it again. Tell everybody what it is.

    4. KR

      (laughs) Buckbeak, it's the magical creature from Harry Potter that Hagrid tames and then they pretend to kill-

    5. MR

      (laughs)

    6. KR

      ... but they don't actually kill.

    7. MR

      And now, whenever she tells me to channel the divine and, like, a flow state Kendall and the infinite...

    8. KR

      So, I'm now the new Buckbeak?

    9. MR

      No, Buckbeak is for protection. You can't protect me. That's- that's not gonna happen.

    10. KR

      Yeah, I was gonna say, that's a little...

    11. AM

      Yeah, I mean, you're good at guitar and singing, but-

    12. MR

      Yeah, you can sing, but-

    13. AM

      Not...

    14. MR

      Let's be honest.

    15. KR

      I'm no, I'm no Buckbeak.

    16. AM

      Yeah.

    17. MR

      But I am gonna experience that... I'm gonna come back to that moment all the time, that moment of standing there in that front yard under a full moon watching people stop their cars and your friends gather and phones go up, and you channeling something divine in you, you- you sharing-

    18. AM

      Mm-hmm.

    19. MR

      ... your gift with the world.

    20. AM

      Mm-hmm.

    21. KR

      Well, I appreciate that.

    22. MR

      All right, I'm gonna hang up 'cause I wanna finish this podcast that we're taping.

    23. KR

      I love you guys. Thanks for calling-

    24. AM

      I love you.

    25. KR

      ... and saying that.

    26. AM

      All right.

    27. MR

      I love you.

    28. AM

      Okay.

    29. KR

      I love you too.

    30. MR

      Goodbye.

  15. 58:261:00:48

    Signs that strengthen the circuitry wired for flow state

    1. MR

      love, is that it sends ripple effects that I believe call in crazy-

    2. AM

      Yeah.

    3. MR

      ... coincidences, like Kendall, of course, calling-

    4. AM

      Yeah.

    5. MR

      ... randomly, right after we played her song.

    6. AM

      Right.

    7. MR

      Me referencing Buckbeak as a fricking joke.

    8. AM

      Right, as a joke.

    9. MR

      And her then looking at the boots she's calling me to buy, and there is a fricking silhouette of what looks like a dragon, which basically is what Buckbeak looks like-

    10. AM

      Yeah.

    11. MR

      ... a flying hawk dragon thing-

    12. AM

      Yeah.

    13. MR

      ... in the sky. It is... You know what I call these, everybody? Signs.

    14. AM

      Amen.

    15. MR

      These and paying attention to the signs and coincidences and magical things that happen in life and calling them out, that is how you also strengthen the circuitry in your brain that is wired for flow and connection and all this incredible magic in your life.

    16. AM

      Right.

    17. MR

      Period.

    18. AM

      Right.

    19. MR

      Like, for those of you that have read The High Five Habit, you know that the exercise about looking for hearts that occur naturally in the world, like a heart-shaped cloud, or w- our new puppy has a heart-shaped freckle-

    20. AM

      Yes.

    21. MR

      ... on his nose.

    22. AM

      Yeah.

    23. MR

      Or heart-shaped stone or heart-shaped, like, stain on the ground-

    24. AM

      Right.

    25. MR

      ... or a heart shape in your coffee.

    26. AM

      Right.

    27. MR

      When you s-

    28. AM

      Or a heart-shaped pee stain from the little puppy.

    29. MR

      Yes, exactly.

    30. AM

      Yes. Yeah.

  16. 1:00:481:03:04

    You have to love yourself a little harder

    1. AM

    2. MR

      And just very casually, we just sat here talking about something else and I'm like, "How are you doing?" And she goes like, "Not so great." And we're... led us... is somewhere amazing.

    3. AM

      Yeah. It's true.

    4. MR

      God, I love you.

    5. AM

      I love you too, Mel. I'm glad you're home. It feels more like home-

    6. MR

      Mm.

    7. AM

      ... when you're here.

    8. MR

      Thank you.

    9. AM

      That's great.

    10. MR

      Thank you.Okay, everybody. So, um, you wanna see those boots? Go look in the show notes.

    11. AM

      Check 'em out.

    12. MR

      I'll put some photos of some hearts there too that people find.

    13. AM

      Mm-hmm.

    14. MR

      And, um, Amy and I just wanna say, look, we love you. We believe in you.

    15. AM

      You deserve to feel in the flow.

    16. MR

      Yeah.

    17. AM

      Peak state. Anybody that wants to come do errands with me on a Saturday-

    18. MR

      (laughs)

    19. AM

      ... I will show you how to be in a peak state, 'cause that when I'm in my zone. I, I love it when people are in their zone. Like, we're all better off when you're in the flow and you're doing your thing. So, I'm glad that we're, we're doing this and helping people get there and feel it.

    20. MR

      Yeah. We're gonna send you out with the best reminder, which is, you gotta love yourself a little harder.

    21. AM

      Yeah.

    22. MR

      Kendall Robbins covering Ariana Grande.

    23. KR

      'Cause if you want to keep me. You've gotta, gotta, gotta, gotta, got to love me harder. And if you really need me. You've gotta, gotta, gotta, gotta, got to love me-

    24. MR

      Hey, it's Mel. Thank you so much for being here. If you enjoyed that video, by God, please subscribe 'cause I don't want you to miss a thing. Thank you so much for being here. We've got so much amazing stuff coming. Thank you so much for sending this stuff to your friends and your family. I love you. We create these videos for you, so make sure you subscribe. (smooches)

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