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A Controversial New Cure for Alcohol Dependence - Katie Herzog

Katie Herzog is a journalist, podcaster, and writer. Expect to learn why drinking might be a viable route to going sober, why white knuckling alcohol isn’t a great option, If AA were invented today what methods would be its first step, the…

Chris WilliamsonhostKatie Herzogguest
Sep 13, 20251h 32mWatch on YouTube ↗

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Released
September 13, 2025
Duration
1h 32m
Channel
Modern Wisdom
Watch on YouTube
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Go see Chris live in America - https://chriswilliamson.live Katie Herzog is a journalist, podcaster, and writer. Expect to learn why drinking might be a viable route to going sober, why white knuckling alcohol isn’t a great option, If AA were invented today what methods would be its first step, the difference between getting sober and living sober, the different reasons people drink and the underlying reasons why people tend to drink more than others, advice for people who need to quit but don’t want to stop, and much more… - 0:00 How Relationships to Alcohol Can Vary 18:36 How Does Alcohol Addiction Manifest in the Brain? 26:58 Building Good Habits to Break Bad Habits 33:53 The History of Addiction Treatment 47:58 Is Medication the Modern Cure for Alcohol Addiction? 01:01:16 Why are Medical Professionals Still Hesitant About Addiction Medication? 01:09:27 Changing Your Relationship to Alcohol 01:22:03 Drinking Cultures are Changing Globally 01:31:53 Find Out More About Katie - Get access to every episode 10 hours before YouTube by subscribing for free on Spotify - https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn or Apple Podcasts - https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Get my free Reading List of 100 life-changing books here - https://chriswillx.com/books/ Try my productivity energy drink Neutonic here - https://neutonic.com/modernwisdom - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact/

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EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of Modern Wisdom, featuring Chris Williamson and Katie Herzog, A Controversial New Cure for Alcohol Dependence - Katie Herzog explores Journalist Reveals Little-Known Pill That Quietly Erased Alcohol Cravings Katie Herzog describes a decades-long progression from teenage binge drinking to secret, compulsive alcohol use that dominated her thoughts and sabotaged her life. She and Chris Williamson unpack how culture normalizes heavy drinking, why most people naturally age out while some don’t, and why traditional treatments like AA and therapy repeatedly failed her. Herzog then explains discovering the Sinclair Method, a protocol using the opioid blocker naltrexone taken before drinking to extinguish the brain’s reward from alcohol. Over seven months this method virtually eliminated her cravings, allowing her to stop drinking without white‑knuckled abstinence and inspiring her to write a pragmatic self-help book about it.

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