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A Philosopher’s Guide To The Good Life - Meghan Sullivan & Paul Blaschko

Meghan Sullivan & Paul Blaschko are Philosophy Professors at the University of Notre Dame. How to lead a good life is one of the biggest quandaries that humans struggle with. How to think about status and money and love and death are huge challenges. Today we get to find out some of philosophy's answers to life's most fundamental questions. Expect to learn the role of truth in leading a good life, what history has to teach us about responsibility and agency, why Socrates was the world's first troll, how generosity is linked to fulfilment, what Marcus Aurelius says about fears of the future, Paul & Meghan's issues with Stoicism and much more... Sponsors: Join the Modern Wisdom Community to connect with me & other listeners - https://modernwisdom.locals.com/ Get a Free Sample Pack of all LMNT Flavours at https://www.drinklmnt.com/modernwisdom (discount automatically applied) Get 20% discount on the highest quality CBD Products from Pure Sport at https://bit.ly/cbdwisdom (use code: MW20) Extra Stuff: Buy The Good Life Method - https://amzn.to/3G1hPYt Get my free Reading List of 100 books to read before you die → https://chriswillx.com/books/ To support me on Patreon (thank you): https://www.patreon.com/modernwisdom #philosophy #stoicism #ethics - 00:00 Intro 00:15 The Threatening Ideas of Socrates 12:34 Finding the Good Life from Philosophy 22:37 Why People Started Searching for a Better Life 32:52 Why is Stoicism Sexy? 38:39 Virtual Ethics Vs Stoicism 44:07 The Role of Truth in a Good Life 56:38 Philosophy of Agency & Generosity 1:06:10 Introductory Books for Virtue Ethics 1:08:21 Where to Find Meghan & Paul - Join the Modern Wisdom Community on Locals - https://modernwisdom.locals.com/ Listen to all episodes on audio: Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact/

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Jan 8, 20221h 9mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 0:31

    Stoic presence & Socrates’ rebuke: wealth vs wisdom

    Paul opens with Marcus Aurelius’ reminder to return to the present, setting the tone for a conversation about attention and value. Chris introduces a Socratic quote condemning the pursuit of wealth, reputation, and honors over wisdom, truth, and care of the soul.

    • Marcus Aurelius on gratitude and presence instead of anticipatory loss
    • Socrates’ challenge: prioritizing wisdom/truth over status and money
    • How ancient critiques of values still map onto modern life
    • Framing the episode around “the good life” as soul-craft
  2. 0:31 – 3:41

    Why Socrates’ questions threatened Athens (and feel familiar today)

    Meghan and Paul explain why Socrates was dangerous in a direct democracy where persuasion often mattered more than truth. They draw parallels between Sophists training citizens to “win” and modern social-media incentive structures that reward rhetorical dominance.

    • Athenian democracy made debate skills a survival tool
    • Sophistry: persuasion without commitment to truth
    • Socrates as a revolutionary insistence on truth-seeking
    • Parallels to Twitter/political debate and “owning” opponents
  3. 3:41 – 8:07

    The trial and the ‘unexamined life’: martyrdom for inquiry

    The discussion turns to why Socrates was executed and what his choice symbolizes. Rather than dying for a doctrine, he dies for the right to question—making truth-seeking a supreme good.

    • Charges against Socrates and the politics of social cohesion
    • Democracies fear destabilization when citizens question norms
    • Socrates’ refusal to stop philosophizing; “unexamined life” line
    • Truth-seeking and communal inquiry as life-defining commitments
  4. 8:07 – 12:39

    Modern echoes: Hong Kong, education as a political flashpoint, and free speech

    Meghan connects Socrates’ dilemma to contemporary academic constraints, using Hong Kong as an example of political pressure on curricula. Chris links this to free-speech principles: speech that undermines the process of inquiry threatens the foundation itself.

    • Teaching liberal democratic theory (e.g., Rawls) under threat
    • Education’s generational power and why regimes care about it
    • Socrates defended the right to ask questions, not a fixed creed
    • Free speech as protecting the conditions for inquiry
  5. 12:39 – 20:53

    From culture-war fights to the book’s premise: valuing truth over winning

    They pivot to how Socratic/Platonic methods help people live better amid polarization. The core move is reorienting disagreement toward shared truth-seeking instead of rhetorical victory, and practicing the emotional skill of being willing to change one’s mind.

    • Critique of manipulation and “sophistry” in modern persuasion
    • Plato’s training: learning to love the right answer (even if it’s not yours)
    • Allegory of the Cave as philosophical ‘FOMO’ for better answers
    • Risk of changing your mind in today’s punitive social climate
  6. 20:53 – 22:37

    Defining the good life via virtue ethics: character, flourishing, and habits

    Paul outlines their framework: virtue ethics as a practical guide to human flourishing (eudaimonia). The book is organized around virtues—truth, generosity, love/attention, and responsibility—paired with stories showing what these look like in real life.

    • Virtues as human excellences and habits of soul (Aristotle)
    • Flourishing/happiness as the aim, not mere rule-following
    • Book structure: each chapter centers a virtue or cluster of virtues
    • Bridging theory with lived examples and self-evaluation
  7. 22:37 – 26:26

    Why ‘good life’ philosophies surged 600–300 BC across cultures

    Meghan explains the striking historical convergence of major wisdom traditions (Greek, Confucian, Buddhist, Jewish). Paul adds Aristotle’s view that self-reflection and the desire to know are part of human nature, pushing us toward systematic moral education.

    • Convergent emergence of written ethical systems across regions
    • A shared sense of a “human 2.0” and uncertainty about the target
    • Education/schools as technologies for moral and intellectual formation
    • Aristotle: humans uniquely reflect and improve in community
  8. 26:26 – 32:52

    Stoicism’s contemplative solution to rumination (and the meme about the happy dog)

    Chris critiques the ‘dogs are happier’ meme, arguing animals aren’t choosing simplicity—humans simply have deeper cognitive burdens. Paul uses this to introduce Stoic and Aristotelian contemplation: the solution to mind’s downsides is disciplined mental practice, not mental shutdown.

    • Humans can’t ‘dial down’ cognition without losing core advantages
    • Stoic exercises and meditations as reality-alignment practices
    • Marcus Aurelius: presence as an antidote to anxious projection
    • Contemplation as central (not monastic/optional) for mental health
  9. 32:52 – 38:40

    Why Stoicism is ‘sexy’ now—and what might come next

    Meghan argues Stoicism fits modern hostile environments and offers therapies that map onto CBT. Paul predicts the broader renaissance will be virtue ethics, partly because Stoicism’s deeper metaphysics (divinely ordered cosmos) doesn’t fit many contemporary secular outlooks.

    • Stoicism as thriving amid instability and rapid change
    • Practical psychological tools: reframing, emotional discipline, CBT parallels
    • Stoicism’s hidden metaphysical commitments and modern selective adoption
    • Prediction: a wider turn toward virtue ethics’ richer toolkit
  10. 38:40 – 44:08

    Virtue ethics vs Stoic invincibility: vulnerability, joy, and shared flourishing

    They critique a modern ‘Stoic self-help’ tendency that treats the goal as invulnerability or emotional indifference. Virtue ethics, by contrast, leaves room for vulnerability, sacrifice, and the idea that happiness can be jointly constituted with others.

    • Modern Stoicism sometimes becomes performance/optimization for winning
    • Worries about coldness: minimizing grief and sidelining joy/pleasure
    • Marcus Aurelius’ ideal of being ‘the same man in all conditions’ questioned
    • Virtue ethics emphasizes relational flourishing and appropriate attachment
  11. 44:08 – 56:38

    Truth as the anchor of the good life: from Socrates to Silicon Valley and AI risk

    Truthfulness is framed as both personally transformative and civilizationally essential. Meghan uses the Elizabeth Holmes/Theranos case to show how ‘fake it till you make it’ corrodes the soul and harms others; Chris extends the stakes to AI alignment where ‘being first’ could be catastrophic.

    • Socratic commitment: truth over status, tribe, and argument-winning
    • Theranos as a case study in self-deception and cultural incentives
    • Why elite education should train truth-seeking before power/tech roles
    • Technological scale raises moral stakes (atomic bomb → AI alignment)
  12. 56:38 – 59:32

    Agency, responsibility, and the stories we tell about our actions (Anscombe)

    Paul introduces Elizabeth Anscombe’s philosophy of action: agency hinges on how we describe and understand what we’re doing. By interrogating our self-serving narratives with ‘thick’ moral concepts, we can take responsibility more honestly and shape character over time.

    • Anscombe on action-description as morally consequential
    • Excuses vs ownership: reframing everyday examples (e.g., being late)
    • Bernard Williams’ ‘thick concepts’ to audit intentions and self-narratives
    • Practical self-knowledge as a route to responsibility and growth
  13. 59:32 – 1:04:38

    Generosity, Singer, and the moral shock of effective altruism

    Meghan wrestles with Peter Singer’s arguments about using money to do the most good, including ‘earn to give.’ The conversation surfaces the emotional and practical conflict between local obligations (family) and impartial global need, and asks what virtue ethics adds beyond utilitarian calculus.

    • Singer’s challenge: money can save more lives than time/volunteering
    • Effective altruism and ‘earn to give’ as counterintuitive charity
    • Personal conflict: family support vs saving strangers statistically
    • Virtue-ethics guidance for morally serious financial planning
  14. 1:04:38 – 1:06:05

    Money, justice, and navigating modern life: pay negotiation and moral scorekeeping

    They explore money’s double role as both a corrupting metric for the good life and a proxy for fairness in unjust systems. Meghan highlights the tension in negotiating pay—especially amid discrimination—without becoming personally captured by money as status.

    • Avoiding money-as-value while acknowledging money-as-justice signal
    • Gender pay gaps and discrimination complicate ‘don’t care about money’
    • Ethically pursuing wealth without letting it define identity
    • Practical ambiguity: using money without being used by it
  15. 1:06:05 – 1:09:04

    How to start with virtue ethics: resources, course site, and their book

    They close with accessible entry points into virtue ethics, including Notre Dame’s publicly available course materials and annotated readings. Meghan explains how their book is designed as a guided path with context, practical exercises, and applications to modern problems like relationships, work, religion, and death.

    • godandgoodlife.nd.edu as a curated syllabus with annotated texts
    • Why raw primary texts can be hard without context and ‘handholds’
    • The Good Life Method as a practical, chapter-by-chapter program
    • Application areas: disagreement, relationships, work/life, religion, death

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