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Battle Cancer Q&A | The Lean Machines, Sonny Webster & Zack George

I recently sat down with Sonny Webster, Zack George and Leon & John from The Lean Machines for a special edition super podcast before the Battle Cancer Fitness Competition in London. Lots of listeners had submitted questions in advance via Instagram and I posed as many as I could to the boys before Sonny have to rush off to some swanky event with the Queen. Expect to learn why the boys believe Competitive Bodybuilding to be an unhealthy lifestyle, what sport they would all be focussed on if they were not lifting weights, how to make your moustache join in the middle and why Sonny sucks so bad at Double Unders. Other Things: Check out Battle Cancer: https://www.battle-cancer.co.uk Follow Zack: https://www.instagram.com/zackgeorge Follow Sonny: https://www.instagram.com/sonnywebstergb Follow The Lean Machines: https://www.instagram.com/theleanmachinesofficial - Listen to all episodes online. Search "Modern Wisdom" on any Podcast App or click here: iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/modern-wisdom/id1347973549 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0XrOqvxlqQI6bmdYHuIVnr?si=iUpczE97SJqe1kNdYBipnw Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/modern-wisdom - I want to hear from you!! Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Email: modernwisdompodcast@gmail.com

Chris WilliamsonhostLeon (The Lean Machines)guestZack GeorgeguestSonny WebsterguestJohn (The Lean Machines)guestGuest (unclear which of the four, very short interjection)guest
Nov 5, 201828mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 1:21

    Battle Cancer eve: nerves, banter, and (not) wanting to run

    Chris welcomes Sonny Webster, Zack George, and Lean Machines’ Leon & John for a quick pre-event Q&A ahead of Battle Cancer. The group jokes about the workouts, team dynamics, and who’s going to suffer most on the running and carry elements.

  2. 1:21 – 2:35

    Improving the overhead squat: no shortcuts, just positions and mobility

    A serious training question kicks off: best accessory work to improve the overhead squat. Sonny emphasizes practicing the movement itself, then layers in presses and mobility constraints that typically hold people back.

  3. 2:35 – 4:13

    If not CrossFit or weightlifting: alternate sports picks (rugby, boxing, and more)

    The panel answers what sport they’d choose outside of CrossFit/weightlifting, leaning into their backgrounds and personalities. Choices range from rugby and boxing to snowboarding, basketball, golf, and even Formula One.

  4. 4:13 – 5:17

    Why Sonny struggles with double-unders: equipment excuses and rope chaos

    A teasing question targets Sonny’s double-under weakness despite elite lifting coordination. Sonny blames the rope, tells a story about a snapped heavy rope, and the group riffs on technique and ‘normal gravity.’

  5. 5:17 – 7:44

    Training vs relationships: supportive partners, insecurity, and athlete schedules

    The conversation turns to navigating relationships when training is a major life priority. They discuss choosing supportive partners, the reality of sport coming first at times, and how shared athletic lifestyles can reduce friction.

  6. 7:44 – 9:08

    How to hit a PR: warmups, mindset, and the power of gym atmosphere

    They break down what goes into attacking a new personal record, including warmup habits and the psychology of commitment. A recurring theme is that PRs often happen around the right people, music, and energy in the room.

  7. 9:08 – 11:12

    Sonny’s legendary resilience: PR stories, minimal sleep, and hangover lifting

    Chris and the group marvel at Sonny’s ability to lift heavy under less-than-ideal conditions. Stories include cold heavy attempts, spontaneous PR sessions, and showing up after big nights out still hitting major numbers.

  8. 11:12 – 13:03

    Does powerlifting help weightlifting? Strength vs mobility and movement specificity

    They debate crossover between powerlifting and Olympic lifting, agreeing strength can help but mobility and full-range movement patterns are critical. Age, training history, and how someone powerlifts (raw vs equipped, ROM depth) influence carryover.

  9. 13:03 – 13:39

    From moustaches to shaved toes: grooming myths and a high-school confession

    A jokey question about facial hair turns into a riff on shaving myths and awkward grooming decisions. Zack tells a high-school story about shaving his toes to impress a girl and the ‘it grows back thicker’ fear.

  10. 13:39 – 15:13

    The Lean Machines’ naked photoshoot story (and Leon’s trimming mishap)

    John recounts their early Attitude Magazine shoot, intended to be a tasteful nude setup—but it became memorable for Leon’s overzealous trimming. The story escalates into a vivid, comedic retelling of the on-set moment and aftermath.

  11. 15:13 – 16:26

    Is 18 too late to start weightlifting? Goals, backgrounds, and realistic ceilings

    They address a common concern: starting Olympic lifting at 18. The answer depends on the goal—elite international level may be harder, but strong progress is possible, especially with a sporting background and sensible coaching.

  12. 16:26 – 21:30

    Eating big, staying performance-ready: calories, ‘cheat meals,’ and sustainable dieting

    Food talk turns into calorie numbers, sweet tooth stories, and how they approach dieting without rigid ‘cheat meal’ rules. They advocate flexible consistency: mostly whole foods, planned indulgences, and habit-based calorie control.

  13. 21:30 – 23:42

    Bodybuilding culture and mental health: extremes, identity, and social media pressure

    They critique bodybuilding’s prep/post-show cycle and how it can distort relationships with food and self-image. The discussion broadens into how social media normalizes unhealthy extremes and fuels constant comparison to a single peak photo.

  14. 23:42 – 27:11

    Why CrossFit wins people over: high barrier, endless progressions, and community

    They discuss CrossFit’s intimidation factor (complex skills) but argue its breadth guarantees everyone has strengths and weaknesses. The strongest selling point becomes community: welcoming boxes, shared progression, and a global ‘drop-in’ culture.

  15. 27:11 – 28:28

    Wrap-up before Battle Cancer: more banter, team superlatives, and goodbye

    The episode closes with more jokes about Sunny’s luxury lifestyle, the team’s size, chafed legs, and awkward over-and-unders. Chris thanks the group and wishes them luck, teasing that viewers will already know the result when it airs.

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