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Catch Up 105 | Modern Wisdom Podcast 176

Jonny & Yusef join me again for another Catch Up episode. No agenda, no topics, just us talking about our lives & what we've been up to recently. Expect to learn what we think about Joe Rogan's move to Spotify, what Jonny's new morning ritual is, why Yusef is putting titanium stuff in his ears, why pigeons are having seizures and much more... Sponsor: Shop Tailored Athlete’s full range at https://link.tailoredathlete.co.uk/modernwisdom (FREE shipping automatically applied at checkout) Extra Stuff: Check out Jonny & Yusef's site - https://propanefitness.com/ Take a break from alcohol and upgrade your life - https://6monthssober.com/podcast Check out everything I recommend from books to products - https://www.amazon.co.uk/shop/modernwisdom #joerogan #spotify #morningritual - Listen to all episodes online. Search "Modern Wisdom" on any Podcast App or click here: iTunes: https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/modern-wisdom - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: modernwisdompodcast@gmail.com

Chris WilliamsonhostJonny & Yusef (banter segment – primary guests)guestYusefguest
May 28, 20201h 18mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 2:47

    AirPods, Apple, and candy-aisle nostalgia before the show starts

    The episode opens with playful banter about Spotify vs. Apple devices, then detours into childhood snack memories and Jonny’s surprisingly serious sweet tooth. It sets a casual tone before the main “catch-up” topics begin.

  2. 2:47 – 6:27

    Joe Rogan’s exclusive Spotify move: what actually changed

    Chris lays out the details of Rogan’s multi-year Spotify exclusivity and why it matters for the podcast industry. They discuss what stays on YouTube/other apps versus what becomes Spotify-only, including Spotify’s push into video hosting.

  3. 6:27 – 9:38

    Spotify’s podcast stack: Anchor, RSS feeds, and a new ad era

    The conversation turns nerdy: how podcast distribution works today via RSS, and what Spotify can change now that it owns Anchor. The big worry is dynamically inserted mid-roll ads and tighter platform control.

  4. 9:38 – 14:08

    Monetization realities: CPMs, host-read trust, and measurement limits

    They unpack why host-read ads can convert better but are still primitive compared to digital targeting. The group explores how attribution is clunky (discount codes, memorized URLs) and how Spotify could connect audio ads to clickable actions.

  5. 14:08 – 17:10

    Discovery and UX: why Spotify could win by fixing podcasts in-app

    Jonny and Chris discuss why Apple Podcasts feels smoother and why Spotify’s podcast UI is currently awkward. They brainstorm Spotify-style discovery features (like Release Radar) for podcasts and the pressure Spotify will face to improve navigation.

  6. 17:10 – 23:51

    Platform war subtext: Apple’s leverage, YouTube censorship, and exclusivity signals

    They debate whether Apple would counterbid and why it might not care, given hardware dominance. YouTube is framed as powerful but restrictive, pushing big creators toward alternative platforms.

  7. 23:51 – 29:08

    Medium, handles, and Chris’s pivot into writing

    Chris shares a surprising Medium support story: verified Twitter handles were reserved, letting him reclaim his username. The group talks about the appeal of Medium’s writing experience and how it nudges people toward publishing.

  8. 29:08 – 36:26

    Morning pages and journaling as ‘decompression’ before planning

    Jonny introduces his experiment with morning pages (popularized by The Artist’s Way), using it to clear mental clutter before structured planning. Chris connects it to low-stimulus focus and the time cost of handwriting.

  9. 36:26 – 40:31

    Yusef’s ‘Wi‑Fi off until 10am’ rule and the capture–review–do problem

    Yusef describes automating internet shutoff to protect mornings from inbox urgency and distraction. The trio identifies a common productivity failure: capturing tasks and doing tasks feels productive, but reviewing is the missing strategic layer.

  10. 40:31 – 43:06

    Social media strategy: automation + real interaction to ‘play the platform game’

    Chris questions Propane Fitness’s new approach, and Yusef explains the mix: scheduled content for consistency plus live engagement for platform-native behavior. They discuss doing creative work offline to avoid distraction and improve output.

  11. 43:06 – 53:26

    Discomfort culture: Wim Hof stories and the Conor Murphy spiral

    A Wim Hof anecdote escalates into a broader discussion about online personas and what happens when they crack under pressure. Yusef recounts YouTuber Conor Murphy’s apparent breakdown and how public collapse scales with audience size.

  12. 53:26 – 1:05:39

    Sleep gadgets and supplement experiments: earplugs, masks, CBD, magnesium, NAD/NMN

    They swap “life hack” gear and biohacking experiments: titanium earplugs for bass frequencies, eye masks that don’t press on eyelids, and a range of supplements. The segment mixes genuine curiosity with skepticism about attribution and stacking too many changes at once.

  13. 1:05:39 – 1:18:54

    COVID-era information chaos: incentives, media editing, and conspiracy psychology

    The episode closes on how incentives shape public messaging—from public health caution to media sensationalism—and how misinformation spreads. Chris introduces “compensatory control” to explain why people gravitate toward conspiracies during uncertainty.

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