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DEI Wars, Trump’s Bible & The Masculinity Vote - Ryan Long

Ryan Long is a comedian, writer, and filmmaker. The world feels like a comedy goldmine right now. From the upcoming election and DEI backlash to bizarre trends like Japanese and Indian fetish porn, P Diddy conspiracy theories, Hawk Tuah memes and Florida men doing Florida man things, obviously we need an expert like Ryan to help make sense of everything. Expect to learn why companies that embraced DEI are rolling back their support, the hottest Google search trends when you type in “my husband wants (blank)“, Japanese men’s recent obsession with tickle porn, Ryan's thought on Kamala and Trump making the rounds on podcasts and much more… - 00:00 Ryan’s Biggest Lesson From Modern Wisdom 05:05 How Type A People Can Be More Creative 14:09 People Follow From the Front 22:12 Companies Figuring Out How Gay To Be 27:36 Right-Wing Vs Left-Wing Commercials 31:25 The YouTube Niche of Breastfeeding Advice 40:16 Why Japanese Men Love Tickling Porn 45:45 Goodhart’s Law of Unintended Consequences 52:29 The Sinister Side of Social Media Algorithms 59:27 Is This Election Crazier Than Usual? 1:04:52 Why Kamala Went on ‘Call Her Daddy’ 1:21:30 Are Podcasters Deciding the Election? 1:27:49 The Different Ways We Signal to Others 1:36:58 Politicians Can Either Be Fun or Righteous 1:40:23 The Grandmother Treatment 1:44:21 How Men & Women Treat Their Thoughts 1:47:36 How Deep is the P-Diddy Rabbit Hole? 1:54:42 Ryan’s Thoughts on the UK 2:01:41 Chris’s Band T-Shirts 2:07:02 Viewing Everything Through the Lens of Club Promoting 2:18:35 Why Mike Israetel Learned Game 2:26:26 The Kid Who is Tracking Andrew Tate 2:28:48 Where to Find Ryan - Get a Free Gift, 5 Free Travel Packs, Free Liquid Vitamin D and more from AG1 at https://drinkag1.com/modernwisdom (automatically applied at checkout) Upgrade your wardrobe and save on True Classic at https://trueclassic.com/modernwisdom (automatically applied at checkout) Get expert bloodwork analysis and bypass Function’s 300,000-person waitlist at https://functionhealth.com/modernwisdom (automatically applied at checkout) Get $5 off your next Magic Spoon order at https://magicspoon.com/modernwisdom (automatically applied at checkout) - Get access to every episode 10 hours before YouTube by subscribing for free on Spotify - https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn or Apple Podcasts - https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Get my free Reading List of 100 life-changing books here - https://chriswillx.com/books/ Try my productivity energy drink Neutonic here - https://neutonic.com/modernwisdom - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact/

Ryan LongguestChris Williamsonhost
Oct 28, 20242h 29mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 3:49

    Type A vs Type B: why hard work doesn’t unlock creativity

    Ryan and Chris unpack why “just work harder” fails in creative domains, especially for Type A overachievers already operating at full throttle. They explore what rest actually does for idea-generation and why creative output often requires deliberate slack.

    • Creativity can’t be forced the same way execution can
    • Type A people need a rational reason to slow down, not a vague ‘chill out’
    • Ideas come from building/refreshing mental connections, not grinding
    • ‘Rest’ is reframed as changing inputs and letting concepts recombine
  2. 3:49 – 6:27

    Why the smartest people aren’t always the most creative

    Ryan proposes a theory for why top creativity often clusters below the extreme high-IQ tail. With too many possible mental connections, hyper-intelligence can default to shortcutting, which may hinder surprising associations that fuel humor and art.

    • Creativity ≠ raw intelligence; the funniest person isn’t always the ‘smartest’
    • Idea-generation depends on unexpected connections between concepts
    • At very high IQ, the connection-space becomes overwhelming/exponential
    • Heuristic shortcuts can reduce the ‘weird jumps’ that produce novelty
  3. 6:27 – 14:08

    Quality vs volume: the content treadmill and ‘Buffett ideas’

    They contrast high-volume content ecosystems with careers built on a few outsized bets. Ryan describes his own writing systems and why two great ideas in a week can be a win, while internet incentives reward constant output and recycled takes.

    • Content markets reward pace, even at ‘okay’ quality
    • Great ideas are scarce; daily hot takes often imply borrowing
    • Ryan’s process: structured ideation + long incubation to find a few strong bits
    • Leverage determines whether you’re paid for quality (few bets) or quantity
  4. 14:08 – 22:11

    ‘Following from the front’: how leaders chase the crowd

    Ryan introduces the concept of people acting like movement leaders while actually sprinting to the front after the crowd has already moved. They connect it to corporate virtue signaling, media cycles, and the incentives to appear first without taking risk.

    • Public figures often mirror organic shifts while claiming leadership
    • Pride-month branding as an example of low-risk ‘leadership’ in safe markets
    • Right/left outrage cycles reward whoever can posture fastest
    • The ‘mob’ moves; influencers reframe themselves as the cause of the move
  5. 22:11 – 28:49

    Corporate DEI and the ‘perfect amount of gay’: backlash, arbitrage, and rollbacks

    Using Ryan’s bit from his special, they analyze how brands tried to monetize social trends like an arbitrage opportunity. The punchline becomes a business lesson: once you staff and message around an ideology long enough, you can’t easily reverse course.

    • Companies get attacked for being ‘too gay’ or ‘not gay enough’
    • DEI rollbacks are happening quietly; critics highlight oddly non-gay brands
    • Trend-chasing creates internal true believers, making exit costly
    • Clicks aren’t always good clicks; backlash changes ROI calculations
  6. 28:49 – 31:25

    Right-wing vs left-wing ads, Trump merch chaos, and media made for seniors

    Ryan riffs on the stark tone difference between mainstream ads and right-wing ecosystem ads—patriotic collectibles, conspiratorial coins, and ‘Sleepy Joe doesn’t want you to see this’ hooks. They tie this to Trump’s always-on merchandising (shoes, Bibles) and the economics of attention.

    • Fox/Rumble-style ads pitch grievance + memorabilia vs mainstream brand polish
    • Trump’s branded Bible story (including manufacturing irony)
    • Outrage and novelty are used as conversion levers for older audiences
    • Political media ecosystems develop their own ‘direct response’ ad language
  7. 31:25 – 45:24

    Algorithm traps: breastfeeding content, freak-show engagement, and micro-expression targeting

    Ryan explains how algorithms misread attention as preference—if you linger, it becomes your identity. The conversation spirals through ‘breastfeeding advice’ as a loophole for nudity, the horror of accidental feeds, and the unsettling idea that platforms may read facial micro-expressions.

    • Algorithms optimize for watch time, not whether you ‘like’ what you saw
    • Breastfeeding niche as a loophole for nudity (even involving fake babies)
    • ‘Freak show’ content captures attention and hijacks feeds
    • Platforms may track micro-expressions to predict and shape behavior
  8. 45:24 – 52:27

    Goodhart’s Law and metric addiction: when optimization breaks the goal

    Chris introduces Goodhart’s Law and applies it to content, business metrics, and personal goals. They show how focusing on a proxy (views, subscribers, fraud rate) can produce perverse incentives and audiences you don’t actually want.

    • Goodhart’s Law: a measure becomes useless once it becomes the target
    • Examples: bribing newsletter signups, fraud reduction via hostile support
    • Virality can lock you into an identity you didn’t intend (Oliver Anthony)
    • Creators need ‘gates’/ordering principles (e.g., ‘is it funny?’ first)
  9. 52:27 – 59:26

    The sinister algorithm: predicting you vs shaping you

    Building on AI research, Chris describes a two-way algorithm: it predicts your clicks and nudges your preferences to become more predictable. They connect this to polarization, comfort-media habits, and the tension between novelty and reliability.

    • Algorithms don’t just learn preferences—they move them
    • Polarization is partially explained by predictability incentives
    • People crave both novelty and consistency; platforms exploit the balance
    • A proposed counter: intentional curation or ‘algorithm custodians’
  10. 59:26 – 1:27:51

    Election vibes: edge-case politics, podcast campaigning, and ‘winning by avoiding blunders’

    They shift into US election talk: Ryan argues it feels less crazy than 2016, with more tempered positioning and less mass hysteria. They discuss campaigning through podcasts (e.g., Call Her Daddy), how politics debates become edge-case battles, and why elections hinge on mistakes more than persuasion.

    • 2016 contrasted with today: fewer public meltdowns, more moderation post-peak-woke
    • Politics as edge-case warfare (extreme examples replace typical reality)
    • Podcast circuit as a response to attention shifts and gatekeeper collapse
    • Campaign dynamics: avoid blunders more than ‘do something great’
  11. 1:27:51 – 1:54:43

    Signaling, culture cycles, and practical social heuristics (barber pole, grandmother treatment)

    The conversation broadens into social signaling frameworks: fashion and media cycles (tight to baggy), class signaling (barber pole), and interpersonal rules of thumb. Ryan introduces ‘grandmother treatment’ as the male version of the friend zone, plus a theory on how men vs women relate to their own thoughts.

    • Culture oscillates: tight↔baggy, bundling↔unbundling, ‘fun’↔‘righteous’ politics
    • Barber pole signaling: each class imitates one rung up; the top loops back down
    • ‘Grandmother treatment’ as the male analog to the friend zone
    • Men treat intrusive thoughts like a reckless buddy; women defend thoughts like an abusive ex
  12. 1:54:43 – 2:01:37

    UK vs US temperament and the speed of American cultural corporatization

    Ryan reflects on UK cultural dynamics—self-deprecation as both comedic fuel and a brake on ambition—then compares how quickly American culture industrializes trends. They map a lifecycle of media movements (introduction → growth → maturity → parody) and note how parody can outlive the original phenomenon.

    • British ‘crabs in a bucket’ skepticism can prevent bold attempts
    • American trends get monetized, iterated, and exhausted extremely fast
    • Four-phase media cycle: introduction, growth, maturity, parody
    • Parody persists even after the original genre disappears
  13. 2:01:37 – 2:29:36

    Band tees, punk lenses, and the nightmare of licensing music on YouTube

    They end on music and creator logistics: band T-shirts as identity, staying connected to old scenes, and how punk/club-promoting mental models shape business thinking. Ryan recounts the painful process of clearing a song for his special, illustrating why licensed music is rare on YouTube.

    • Personal style as nostalgia: dressing like your teenage music taste
    • Viewing business through subculture frameworks (punk, club promoting)
    • YouTube monetization + licensing makes legitimate music clearance hard
    • Even when trying to pay, label processes can be slow and opaque

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