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Doping Scandals & Olympics Corruption - Zack Telander

Zack Telander is a weightlifter, coach & YouTuber. ZT joins me to discuss my recent trip to Nashville to see Mikhaila & Jordan Peterson, why I think Canada has committed an act of international sabotage by poisoning me, the International Olympic Committee's newest bombshell threat to the entire weightlifting world, why corruption is so rampant in weightlifting, what Zack thinks can be done about drugs in sports and much more... Sponsors: Join the Modern Wisdom Community to connect with me & other listeners - https://modernwisdom.locals.com/ Reclaim your fitness and book a Free Consultation Call with ActiveLifeRX at http://bit.ly/rxwisdom Get 20% discount on all pillows at https://thehybridpillow.com (use code: MW20) Get 20% discount on the highest quality CBD Products from Pure Sport at https://bit.ly/cbdwisdom (use code: MW20) Extra Stuff: Subscribe to Zack's YouTube Channel -https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC94_fvLx7abZgs9LIkM7jxw Get Zack's Program for $1 - https://www.patreon.com/zacktelander Follow Zack on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/coach_zt Get my free Reading List of 100 books to read before you die → https://chriswillx.com/books/ To support me on Patreon (thank you): https://www.patreon.com/modernwisdom #weightlifting #doping #corruption - 00:00 Intro 00:53 Chris’ Texas Trip 09:24 Corruption in the Olympics 27:24 How the IOC Threatens Weightlifting 34:55 The Processes of Doping in Sports 46:51 Would the Olympics Ever be Disbanded? 54:20 How to Clean up Weightlifting 1:01:12 Where to Find Zack - Join the Modern Wisdom Community on Locals - https://modernwisdom.locals.com/ Listen to all episodes on audio: Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact/

Zack TelanderguestChris Williamsonhost
Dec 18, 20211h 1mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 0:18

    11th place to gold: how bad retroactive doping can get

    Zack opens with a jaw-dropping example from Olympic weightlifting: enough retroactive positives that an 11th-place finisher ends up with gold. This sets the tone for a conversation about systemic doping and institutional failure.

    • Retroactive sanctions can completely reorder podium results
    • 2012 example: multiple positives in a single category
    • Illustrates how widespread doping undermines legitimacy
  2. 0:18 – 5:10

    Texas catch-up: illness, travel, and why they're recording remotely

    Chris and Zack riff on Chris’ rough stomach bug after Nashville and the irony of recording online while in the same city. They compare different “party streets” and recap the trip’s highlights.

    • Nashville weekend, suspected food poisoning vs contagious illness
    • Broadway vs Austin’s 6th Street (tackiness and chaos)
    • Trip highlights: training, Rogan show, wake surfing
  3. 5:10 – 9:19

    Work, travel, and momentum: building a life that doesn’t feel temporary

    Chris explains why working while traveling feels better than a pure holiday, and Zack reflects on Chris’ work ethic and why the UK’s pandemic restrictions wore him down. They discuss the emotional pull of returning to the UK versus staying in Texas.

    • Holiday vs “living somewhere” while still progressing in work
    • Networking and output increase when environment changes
    • Pandemic fatigue and the appeal of a new base
  4. 9:19 – 11:18

    Weightlifting facing a 'death penalty': IOC warning and 2028 uncertainty

    Zack describes the urgent news that sparked his frantic call: weightlifting is effectively on notice for removal from the 2028 Olympics. They clarify that it’s a severe warning to reform, not a final expulsion—yet.

    • IOC messaging: last-chance ultimatum to the IWF
    • Weightlifting previously on the chopping block for 2024 too
    • Possible replacement by newer sports (e.g., skateboarding, climbing)
  5. 11:18 – 15:37

    Who runs what: IOC vs IWF and why governance matters

    Chris asks Zack to map the institutions. Zack outlines how the IWF must meet IOC requirements, then argues weightlifting’s leadership has been uniquely corrupt compared to other Olympic sports.

    • Roles and power dynamics: IOC oversight vs IWF governance
    • Claim: IWF as the most corrupt Olympic sport
    • Two corruption streams introduced: leadership corruption + doping
  6. 15:37 – 22:23

    IWF corruption deep dive: hidden money, missing tests, and a mafia-like system

    Zack details allegations around longtime IWF president Thomas (Tamas) Aján: off-ledger Swiss accounts, missing funds, and untracked tests. The conversation frames it as racketeering—countries paying to make problems disappear.

    • $23M allegedly routed through undisclosed Swiss accounts
    • At least $5.5M unaccounted for; hundreds of tests “missing”
    • Cash payments and bribes to suppress positives and sanctions
  7. 22:23 – 26:07

    Fixing outcomes with anti-doping power: the Sydney story and forced throwing

    Zack recounts a story where an athlete allegedly faked an injury to avoid winning because the team hadn’t paid to stay protected. Chris challenges the ethics, and Zack argues the deeper scandal is regulators weaponizing enforcement.

    • Alleged coercion: 'don’t win or the team gets popped'
    • Anti-doping used as leverage to manipulate medals
    • Responsibility split: athletes cheat, but officials enable and monetize it
  8. 26:07 – 30:37

    IOC as bully and political actor: why the top isn’t clean either

    Chris asks whether the IOC is clean; Zack argues it’s powerful, self-protective, and historically complicit in allowing rule-breaking until public pressure forces action. Russia’s doping saga (Icarus) becomes the example.

    • IOC power: can pressure federations while avoiding blame
    • Icarus as evidence of systemic tolerance until exposure
    • Sanctions often arrive late and only after public scrutiny
  9. 30:37 – 34:54

    New guard, old habits: Aján out, but reforms questioned

    Zack explains Aján was forced to resign, yet criminal consequences seem absent. He criticizes leadership continuity, suggesting replacements came from the same ‘old guard,’ undermining trust in reform.

    • Aján resigns; perceived lack of accountability
    • Mike Irani appointment criticized, including by UK federation
    • Concern that governance changes are cosmetic rather than structural
  10. 34:54 – 37:27

    How doping works in practice: cycling, testing windows, and sample manipulation

    They move from governance to mechanics: WADA vs national testing, how athletes time cycles, and the ways systems get gamed. Zack lists pathways to pass tests, including advance notice, knowing test methods, and swapping samples.

    • National testing variability creates uneven playing fields
    • Three routes to evade detection: timing, test knowledge, untestable compounds
    • Documentary claims: bribery and proxy sample provision occurred in weightlifting
  11. 37:27 – 42:42

    The moral line: children, 'let them all dope,' and why spectators miss the stakes

    Zack rejects the defeatist ‘legalize everything’ stance, citing reports of doping minors and the harm of normalizing it. Chris draws a parallel to youth medical interventions, and they debate where society sets boundaries for irreversible choices.

    • Example: allegations of PED use among very young athletes
    • Ethical stakes for youth pathways and coaches’ responsibilities
    • Spectator cynicism vs athletes’ real livelihoods and futures
  12. 42:42 – 49:23

    Why weightlifting is targeted: visibility, politics, and 'smaller sport' vulnerability

    Chris probes why weightlifting faces removal while other doped sports persist. Zack argues less cultural and commercial power makes it easier to punish, while the Olympics remains a political tool for countries to project strength.

    • Smaller sports are easier to sacrifice than marquee events
    • Olympics as national prestige/propaganda mechanism
    • Countries with fewer global sport wins may prioritize weightlifting medals
  13. 49:23 – 54:16

    PEDs across all sports: how widespread and why certain sports benefit more

    They broaden out to doping in basketball, football, cycling, and beyond, focusing on recovery, muscle retention, and the power-to-weight problem. Chris notes season length complicates cycling protocols; Zack argues even ‘mild’ enhancement can be huge for elite athletes.

    • Claim: PED use is widespread beyond weightlifting
    • Basketball highlighted due to intensity, injury load, and long seasons
    • Core advantage: improved recovery, workload capacity, and muscle retention
  14. 54:16 – 1:00:11

    Cleaning up weightlifting: 'clean house,' verify national testing, increase international tests

    Chris asks what Zack would do in charge. Zack proposes removing legacy leadership, tightening and verifying national anti-doping, and requiring frequent international testing—acknowledging cheating will never be eliminated, only made harder.

    • Governance reform: remove officials tied to the corrupt era
    • System reform: verify national testing standards and compliance
    • Athlete oversight: minimum international tests per year despite gaming risks
  15. 1:00:11 – 1:01:50

    Odds for 2028 and final sign-off: 50/50 future and where to find Zack

    They discuss how difficult it is to reform a global sport on a deadline; Zack gives a grim 50/50 chance weightlifting stays in the 2028 Olympics. The episode closes with Zack’s links and Chris’ outro.

    • Timeline pressure: reforms needed by ~late 2023
    • Zack estimates 50/50 chance of Olympic inclusion in 2028
    • Where to follow: YouTube, Patreon coaching, Instagram

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