How Love Dies: The Psychology of Cheating & Attraction - Esther Perel

Go see Chris live in America - https://chriswilliamson.live Esther Perel is a psychotherapist, podcaster, and New York Times bestselling author. Why do modern relationships feel so difficult? Even the happiest couples on the outside often hide unspoken rules and silent expectations that slowly erode intimacy. Resentment grows, trust fractures, and love feels harder to sustain. So how can men and women build partnerships that endure in today’s ever-changing world? Expect to learn what the “Mankeeping” trend is that is going on with women right now, how women can support emotional openness in men without mothering or emasculating them, why there is an adversarial and tribal dynamic between men and women in the modern world, why women get bored with monogamy more quickly than men, if companies should rethink their approach to workplace romance and much more… - 0:00 Red Flags Don’t Look Like Red Flags Through Rose Coloured Glasses 6:57 Why We Should Avoid Polarising Attachment Discourse 12:12 The Difficulties Behind Male Friendships 20:23 What is Driving Male Loneliness? 37:53 What is Pushing Men and Women Apart? 44:39 The Growing Separation of Societal Groups 50:47 Why Do We Cheat? 55:28 What are the Early Signs of Deadness? 01:01:32 Do Women Get Bored of Monogamy More Quickly Than Men? 01:09:37 How Do Men and Women Relate in the Workplace? 01:21:12 Find Out More About Esther - Get access to every episode 10 hours before YouTube by subscribing for free on Spotify - https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn or Apple Podcasts - https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Get my free Reading List of 100 life-changing books here - https://chriswillx.com/books/ Try my productivity energy drink Neutonic here - https://neutonic.com/modernwisdom - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact/

Chris WilliamsonhostEsther Perelguest

Aug 28, 20251h 22mWatch on YouTube ↗

EPISODE INFO

Released: August 28, 2025
Duration: 1h 22m
Channel: Modern Wisdom
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EPISODE DESCRIPTION

Go see Chris live in America - https://chriswilliamson.live Esther Perel is a psychotherapist, podcaster, and New York Times bestselling author. Why do modern relationships feel so difficult? Even the happiest couples on the outside often hide unspoken rules and silent expectations that slowly erode intimacy. Resentment grows, trust fractures, and love feels harder to sustain. So how can men and women build partnerships that endure in today’s ever-changing world? Expect to learn what the “Mankeeping” trend is that is going on with women right now, how women can support emotional openness in men without mothering or emasculating them, why there is an adversarial and tribal dynamic between men and women in the modern world, why women get bored with monogamy more quickly than men, if companies should rethink their approach to workplace romance and much more… - 0:00 Red Flags Don’t Look Like Red Flags Through Rose Coloured Glasses 6:57 Why We Should Avoid Polarising Attachment Discourse 12:12 The Difficulties Behind Male Friendships 20:23 What is Driving Male Loneliness? 37:53 What is Pushing Men and Women Apart? 44:39 The Growing Separation of Societal Groups 50:47 Why Do We Cheat? 55:28 What are the Early Signs of Deadness? 01:01:32 Do Women Get Bored of Monogamy More Quickly Than Men? 01:09:37 How Do Men and Women Relate in the Workplace? 01:21:12 Find Out More About Esther - Get access to every episode 10 hours before YouTube by subscribing for free on Spotify - https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn or Apple Podcasts - https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Get my free Reading List of 100 life-changing books here - https://chriswillx.com/books/ Try my productivity energy drink Neutonic here - https://neutonic.com/modernwisdom - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact/

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Chris Williamson
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Esther Perel
guest
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EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of Modern Wisdom, featuring Chris Williamson and Esther Perel, How Love Dies: The Psychology of Cheating & Attraction - Esther Perel explores esther Perel Dissects Dead Love, Cheating, Loneliness, and Gender Wars Esther Perel and Chris Williamson explore how early idealization in relationships gives way to unconscious patterns rooted in family-of-origin, and question how much attachment theory is explanation versus useful narrative. They examine modern male loneliness, the ‘man-keeping’ discourse, and how culture, evolution, and gender norms shape men’s friendships, vulnerability, and emotional isolation. Perel reframes infidelity as often emerging from ‘deadness’—a loss of vitality, curiosity, and play in long-term relationships—rather than just lust or moral failure. The conversation ends by connecting relational dynamics at home and at work, outlining four pillars of healthy workplace relationships and why play and storytelling are powerful antidotes to tribalism and disconnection.

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