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Knees Over Toes Guy - Building A Bulletproof Body

Ben Patrick (Knees Over Toes Guy) is an athletic coach and an author. Keeping our bodies bulletproof is something everyone wants as they age. Bad knees, backs and shoulders not only stop you from doing the things you want in sport, but then begin to suck the enjoyment out of your life too. Ben has some solutions. Expect to learn the 3 most important exercises to maximise your body's robustness, what Ben's biggest takeaways have been from Andrew Huberman, the relationship between flexibility and strength, how to make your shoulders more mobile and less painful, the optimal training frequency to see results and much more... Sponsors: Join the Modern Wisdom Community to connect with me & other listeners - https://modernwisdom.locals.com/ Get a Free Sample Pack of all LMNT Flavours at https://www.drinklmnt.com/modernwisdom (discount automatically applied) Get 20% discount on the highest quality CBD Products from Pure Sport at https://bit.ly/cbdwisdom (use code: MW20) Get 15% discount on Craftd London’s jewellery at https://bit.ly/cdwisdom (use code MW15) Extra Stuff: Check out Ben's website - https://www.atgonlinecoaching.com Buy Ben's book - https://amzn.to/37M5USu Get my free Reading List of 100 books to read before you die → https://chriswillx.com/books/ To support me on Patreon (thank you): https://www.patreon.com/modernwisdom #kneesovertoesguy #rehab #fitness - 00:00 Intro 00:59 Common Basketball Injuries 06:59 Flexibility vs Strength 12:38 Ben’s Knee Transformation 17:45 Accepting Importance of Rehab 30:32 Practicing Gratitude 37:22 Lessons from Andrew Huberman 41:38 Highest-Return Exercises for Knees 50:18 Ben’s Exercises for Shoulders 58:38 How to Bulletproof Lower Backs 1:03:33 When is Too Much or Too Little? 1:06:00 How to Find Ben - Join the Modern Wisdom Community on Locals - https://modernwisdom.locals.com/ Listen to all episodes on audio: Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact/

Ben PatrickguestChris Williamsonhost
Apr 29, 20221h 7mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Strength Through Full Range: Bulletproofing Knees, Backs, and Shoulders Safely

  1. Ben Patrick, known as the “Knees Over Toes Guy,” explains his philosophy of building a resilient, long‑lasting body by combining strength and mobility through full ranges of motion, rather than separating rehab, flexibility, and strength work.
  2. Drawing from his own history of severe knee injuries and failed conventional rehab, he challenges the long‑held cue of avoiding knees over toes, arguing that properly loaded, pain‑free training into those positions restores joint health and prevents injuries.
  3. He outlines two universal principles: get stronger in reverse of the motion that hurts, and restore/train full, pain‑free range of motion in that area, applying this to knees, shoulders, and the spine.
  4. The conversation also explores mindset, ego, and environment—how being “the odd one out” doing unconventional rehab in the gym can build mental toughness, gratitude, and long‑term adherence to a healthier way of training.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Train strength in reverse of the motion that hurts.

For any joint, first identify the movement that causes pain (e.g., landing, throwing, bending) and deliberately strengthen the opposite direction—like backward sled drags for knees or external rotations for shoulders—to build protective capacity with minimal pain.

Restore and load full range of motion, but only at pain‑free levels.

Instead of avoiding deep positions (knees over toes, deep squats, full overhead or behind‑the‑neck pressing), regress the load or leverage until you can move through the complete range without pain, then progressively strengthen there to nourish joints and reduce injury risk.

Combine mobility and strength rather than training them in isolation.

Patrick argues that yoga‑style flexibility without load and powerlifting‑style strength without range both leave you vulnerable; exercises like ass‑to‑grass split squats or full‑ROM push‑ups and chin‑ups simultaneously improve flexibility and active strength, creating more durable joints.

Use simple, targeted exercises to bulletproof knees, shoulders, and back.

High‑leverage tools include backward sled drags, ATG split squats, tibialis raises, and Nordic curls for knees; external rotations, lower‑trap raises, and full‑ROM pressing/dips for shoulders; and hip‑flexor‑lengthening ATG split squats plus controlled rounded‑ and straight‑back work for the spine.

Rehab can and should feel like real training, not just “therapy.”

Patrick designs sessions that deliver a genuine pump, sweat, and performance benefits while also rehabbing joints, arguing that merging physical therapy with strength work makes adherence easier and transforms rehab from a chore into something people enjoy and stick with.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

The athlete whose knee can go farthest and strongest over the toes has the least chance of knee injury.

Ben Patrick (citing Charles Poliquin)

Principle number one, get stronger in reverse of the pain… Principle number two, restore and train full range of motion, but at the level that doesn’t hurt you.

Ben Patrick

Avoiding bending your knees, for example, that’s a scientific death wish for your knee because you’re signaling to your body not even to fully use the joint.

Ben Patrick

Rehab can make you sexier… people didn’t realize that physical therapy and exercise don’t have to be two different things.

Ben Patrick

It’s not tremendously enjoyable to not be able to, if you’re doing CrossFit or powerlifting… with the class, with your bros, just doing the thing.

Chris Williamson

Ben Patrick’s injury history and the origin of “knees over toes” trainingWhy traditional cues like “don’t let knees go past toes” can be harmful long‑termCore principles: strength in reverse and strength through full range of motionSpecific high‑yield exercises for knees, shoulders, and lower backBlending rehab, strength training, and athletic performance into one systemMindset shifts: ego, identity, and the psychology of long rehab processesEnvironment, community, and role models (e.g., Huberman, Peterson) in sustaining health

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