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Leon Scott | How To Use Your Influence

Leon Scott is a Semi-Professional Footballer, Model, Influencer and Online Coach. The worlds of modelling, football and Instagram aren't often extolled for their virtue or commitment to mindfulness, but Leon is a non-typical member of these groups and is using his platform to promote mental wellbeing to the thousands who follow him. Great to sit down with a kindred spirit today. We finally got to discuss how we both feel about having a desire to promote mental wellbeing through our channels and the requirement to balance that with the "game playing" which is needed to be successful online. Extra Stuff: Follow Leon on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/leon3scott Leon's Website - http://www.leon-scott.com - Video & production by Dean Hindmarch https://www.deanhindmarch.com/ https://www.instagram.com/deanhindmarch - Listen to all episodes online. Search "Modern Wisdom" on any Podcast App or click here: iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/modern-wisdom/id1347973549 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0XrOqvxlqQI6bmdYHuIVnr?si=iUpczE97SJqe1kNdYBipnw Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/modern-wisdom - I want to hear from you!! Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Email: modernwisdompodcast@gmail.com

Chris WilliamsonhostLeon Scottguest
Feb 18, 201955mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 1:07

    Leon Scott’s background: football, modeling, and a surprising day job

    Chris and Leon warm up with banter before Leon explains how his life spans semi-pro football, social media/modeling work, and a full-time role supporting people with learning disabilities. The chapter sets up the theme of balancing seemingly contradictory worlds while staying grounded.

    • Leon has recently returned to play for Whitby Town
    • His online presence began through clothing brand modeling opportunities
    • He worked full time alongside modeling and football
    • The episode’s core tension: image/industry vs values/inner life
  2. 1:07 – 3:00

    How modeling started: SickSilk, early influencer marketing, and first breaks

    Leon recounts being asked to model for a then-new clothing brand (SickSilk) and how that era relied heavily on reality TV stars for visibility. He describes how that first shoot led to more brands and eventually major campaigns.

    • SickSilk as an early mover in UK social-first fashion brands
    • Reality TV placement (Geordie Shore/TOWIE) as key marketing strategy
    • Leon’s initial lack of confidence on camera
    • Momentum from one shoot turning into steady brand work
  3. 3:00 – 7:25

    Footasylum Ibiza and the reality of “glamorous” work

    A paid Ibiza campaign sounds ideal, but Leon explains the contrast between holiday vibes and the discipline of shooting content in party environments. The discussion highlights how ‘fun’ jobs still demand focus and professionalism.

    • Ibiza/Ocean Beach shoot during peak party season
    • Trying to work while surrounded by holiday crowds
    • Realization that paid travel still comes with pressure
    • Modeling becomes a snowball effect after bigger campaigns
  4. 7:25 – 9:28

    Support worker life: helping people with autism and Down syndrome

    Leon details his six years as a support worker, helping individuals navigate daily life—from hygiene to transport, appointments, and independence. He explains the structure of supported living homes and why he preferred working with younger, more active residents.

    • Support worker responsibilities: routines, travel, college/work, appointments
    • Supported living houses with tenants and staff teams
    • Leon brought fitness into the role (gym, football matches)
    • Fulfillment from helping young lads build confidence and independence
  5. 9:28 – 11:03

    Semi-pro football at Darlington: leadership, promotions, and intensity

    Leon describes his time at Darlington, including captaining the team and achieving multiple promotions after the club’s dramatic drop through the leagues. He frames football as demanding but meaningful—especially compared to jobs he considers truly ‘hard graft.’

    • Six years at Darlington; captain for three
    • Four promotions during his stint
    • Context: club’s bankruptcy and drop down five leagues
    • Respect for physically demanding work outside sport/entertainment
  6. 11:03 – 11:51

    Balancing three demanding lives: training, energy, and time discipline

    Leon explains the constant trade-offs required to juggle modeling, football, and support work. He emphasizes discipline, using small training windows, and the “feel-good factor” of staying consistent to protect mood and performance.

    • Need to stay lean enough for football and in shape for modeling
    • Training even while traveling (late arrivals, hotel gyms)
    • Belief: more activity creates more energy; inactivity drains him
    • Difficulty switching off, improved through mindfulness
  7. 11:51 – 21:58

    Mindset and self-evaluation: productivity guilt and learning to rest

    Chris digs into Leon’s default mindset and how training affects his mood and energy. Leon shares his tendency toward productivity guilt, nightly reflection questions, and how mindfulness has helped him accept downtime without spiraling.

    • “The more I do, the more energy I’ve got”
    • Struggles to relax; guilt when ‘doing nothing’
    • Nightly self-check questions affect sleep quality
    • Mindfulness as a tool to accept rest and reset
  8. 21:58 – 26:43

    From “I hate reading” to meditation: Calm app and a Buddhist center

    Leon outlines his entry into mindfulness through a first self-development book, guided meditation via Calm, and eventually in-person Buddhist teachings near Darlington. He describes the immediate impact of applying techniques and seeing real behavioral change.

    • Short attention span at school; dismissive attitude to books as a kid
    • Breakthrough book: The Motivation Manifesto (Brendon Burchard)
    • Starting with Calm’s guided meditations (15 minutes)
    • Joining a local Buddhist group; learning from a teacher/monk
  9. 26:43 – 30:32

    What meditation actually trains: thoughts, letting go, and progressive overload

    They demystify meditation as ‘working on your inner life,’ not mystical performance. Chris shares his retreat experience and they compare meditation practice to gym training—building capacity to notice thoughts without identifying or suppressing them.

    • Meditation is hard; Chris taps out at 6 of a planned 10 hours
    • Common misconception: “Just sitting—how hard can it be?”
    • Progressive overload analogy for building attention and calm
    • Key skill: weaken attachment to thoughts rather than eliminate them
  10. 30:32 – 33:56

    Mindfulness in sport and training: aggression control and reframing problems

    Leon explains how mindfulness improved his football temperament, helping him manage aggression, avoid needless conflict, and win mental battles on the pitch. He also reframes life challenges as ‘training opportunities’ for the mind.

    • Leon’s style: aggressive center-mid ‘breaker’ role
    • Mindfulness reduces impulsive reactions and red cards
    • Reframe: problems are chances to train resilience
    • Finding a sustainable “lean” physique that suits both football and modeling
  11. 33:56 – 37:54

    British skepticism and masculinity: making mindfulness ‘acceptable’

    They discuss the UK cultural tendency to dismiss meditation as unmanly or weird, especially among northern lads. Leon argues that the very frustrations people complain about—traffic, weather—are reasons to train the mind, not excuses to avoid it.

    • Mindfulness seen as “not cool”/not masculine for young lads
    • Cultural pessimism and complaining as default in the UK
    • You can’t change traffic/weather; you can change your response
    • Meditation as inner conditioning, like gym training is outer conditioning
  12. 37:54 – 39:45

    Letting go in daily life: the ‘bucket’ model and anger as a hot coal

    Leon uses vivid metaphors to show how tiny irritations accumulate until someone explodes, and how mindfulness interrupts the build-up. They connect this to anger, attachment, and the logic of releasing thoughts that cause pain.

    • ‘Bucket filling’ diagram: small annoyances leading to overflow
    • ‘Straw that broke the camel’s back’ as misattribution
    • Hot coal metaphor: you’d drop it instantly if you could see mental pain
    • Anger hurts the holder first, then becomes regret
  13. 39:45 – 44:33

    Using influence responsibly: defining his message and redefining happiness

    Chris shifts to Leon’s online platform and the message he wants to communicate: growth, learning, and happiness from within. Leon challenges luxury-focused content and explains his view that attachments create suffering if they become the primary source of happiness.

    • Platform goal: encourage learning/progress in any domain
    • Happiness = loved ones happy, comfortable, and pain-free
    • Materialism as trend-driven and temporary (hedonic treadmill)
    • Buddhist idea: attachment eventually leads to suffering
  14. 44:33 – 55:32

    “Play the game” on Instagram: image vs essence, and resources to start

    They acknowledge the contradiction of preaching mindfulness while operating in attention-driven social media—yet argue you must use the platform’s rules to reach people. Leon shares how he splits content (physique imagery + captioned mindset lessons) and closes with recommended tools and books.

    • Criticism: mindfulness talk while still showing luxury/physique online
    • Strategy: use platform rules to deliver deeper messages over time
    • Leon’s content split: stories for practice; posts for projects/message
    • Recommendations: Calm, Medium, Motivation Manifesto, High Performance Habits; local Buddhist centers

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