Life Hacks 204 | Modern Wisdom Podcast 311

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 0:00 Obviously this doesn't go for every- anyone using a Windows computer, like, that's several steps away.

Chris Williamson 0:04 (laughs)

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 0:05 (laughs) Throw it out the window.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 0:06 So what you want to do is, if you take your computer and go out of your back door, open up the recycling bin-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 0:12 (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 0:13 ... and just put it in there. Speaking of 170 BPM music, Frenchcore is the one.

Chris Williamson 0:19 (laughs)

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 0:20 Frenchcore. (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 0:21 For anyone that enjoys a bit of kind of EDM music and thinks, "Oh, but I just wish it was just twice as fast and a bit more distorted," and-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 0:30 (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 0:32 ... and... (laughs)

Chris Williamson 0:35 It is another Life Hacks episode. Tools, techniques, and tactics for a productive and efficient life. If you haven't seen this before, we do a roundtable. Each of us proposes some sort of life hack we've come up with over the last few weeks since the previous episode. And then the other two tear it to pieces or immediately proclaim that person as God and say, "Right. I'm going to go buy it, or I'm going to start doing it right now." And, uh, and that's it.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:00 That is it, or there's the delayed reaction which is proclaim the others as an idiot, and then a couple years later we're all doing that thing in full force.

Chris Williamson 1:08 We're all moving in the same d- the, the same direction at once. Uh, if you want to check out whatever it is that we talk about, there will be links in the show notes below. If there are discounts or codes or whatever, I'll have trolled the internet and tried to find them. So if there's something that you enjoy that you want to go and use, just look, show notes below, comments below and, uh, they'll be there. So Johnny-

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:28 (laughs)

Chris Williamson 1:28 ... you're first up. There's a hot potato for you-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:30 Oh, God.

Chris Williamson 1:31 ... in the face.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:32 Right. So I'm, I think what we just spoke about there of, like, the true test of a life hack is when someone said it two years ago, I make fun of it, and then I say it again. And I'm a bit worried about this one. I don't think it's been mentioned before, but it's the sort of thing that Chris would have recommended. So, and I would have probably made fun of it as well.

Chris Williamson 1:52 Okay.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:53 So let's see. It's something that, um, Dan, Digital Audio Broadcast, actually recommended to me, um, which is I really struggle... So on the, I don't know whether you remember last time I spoke about struggling with creatine, and I... Creatine tablets solved that problem for me.

Chris Williamson 2:10 Yeah.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 2:11 I also struggle with morning whey. (laughs) Like having a, a whey protein shake in the morning, I just find it a bit... I don't know, like it's never quite what you'd expect it to be. ClearWhey from MyProtein is excellent.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 2:29 This is a more kind of juice consistency compared to the milkshake type.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 2:33 Yep.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 2:33 Yeah.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 2:34 So you have one scoop in water, give it a shake, leave it. It's very important to leave it, because if you go for it straight away-

Chris Williamson 2:40 Leave it, leave it. (laughs)

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 2:41 ... if you go for it straight away... So like my first, like, week of experience with it was like semi-congealed. It's, it's hydrolyzed whey, so semi-congealed bits of hydrolyzed whey. It was like, "This is awful." But then you leave it for two, three minutes and it's just like a juice. So as a morning, as a morning supplement, brilliant. So that's my life hack.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 3:00 That's interesting.

Chris Williamson 3:01 So it's a hydrolyzed whey, so it's not an isolate?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 3:06 Yeah. So I thought it was an isolate, but if you read the ingredients it does say hydrolyzed whey. Maybe someone should write for-

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 3:12 Technology has come so far in the last few years.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 3:15 (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 3:15 Like, the hydrolyzed whey... 'Cause back in the day, pre... You know, if you've heard our, the Fitness Menopause podcast where, back where we were, you know, deep in the, the days. I don't know, Chris, you mentioned, like, where you... MyProtein was just like a build-it-yourself powder, and you could literally put in like the most stupid combinations of like, "Oh, I want 95% beta-alanine, 5% oats."

Chris Williamson 3:36 (laughs) Hor- horny goat's weed, yeah.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 3:38 Horny... Yeah.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 3:39 Horny goat's weed or waxy maize starch with it.

Chris Williamson 3:41 (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 3:42 All minging, absolutely disgusting. And all of these, like, you'd get casein, which was just like basically a lump of sand that as soon as water touches it, it just becomes a solid, and you shake it in your thing and it just goes dunk, dunk, dunk, dunk in your... Yeah. And hydrolyzed whey-

Chris Williamson 3:55 So what's the, what's the advantage of this, Johnny? Less digestive discomfort, better taste, sort of less of a bloated feeling?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 4:02 I think... So maybe you two don't get this, but, like, when I make a protein... Like if you make a protein shake, like a scoop or two scoops of, of whey concentrate with, like, water from the tap, it's always this, like, six out of ten experience, isn't it? Like it's... You're never like, "Oh, God, I'm glad. Oh, that was delicious. I'm really glad I had that first thing." And then you feel a little bit gurgly and you're like, "Ugh." Like, don't feel that great about it. But the, the, the ClearWhey just tastes like juice. So if you get like the orange and mango one, for example, it just tastes like having orange juice in the morning. And it's... But it's 20... I think 25 grams of protein or something. So it just... I think it just makes it easier, so I do that and then I have that with my creatine tablets and my supplements. It just makes it easier to, like... It's something I always do because I like the taste of it, and it's effortless, and it tastes like juice.

Chris Williamson 4:52 What is the-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 4:54 So that's why-

Chris Williamson 4:54 What are the flavors that you've tried, and what is the optimal powder-to-water ratio?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 4:59 Great questions, Chris. Great questions. So I have tried watermelon, grape, rainbow candy, which you've already-

Chris Williamson 5:07 Oh, wow. You've been... You've gone very deep into this. Did you get sample packs or are these all legitimate ones that you've worked your way through?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 5:12 I went, I went full, full container.

Chris Williamson 5:14 Wow.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 5:14 Wow.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 5:15 (laughs) Yeah. Um.

Chris Williamson 5:16 Okay. Big risk.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 5:18 Watermelon. Did I say watermelon? Peach tea and then the mango one. And I think probably the, the ma... I think the watermelon is my favorite one, I think. Um, and it's one scoop with quite a bit of water.

Chris Williamson 5:33 Well, how... Come on. Come on.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 5:35 Well, it, it depen... (laughs) What you want, the amount of water?

Chris Williamson 5:38 Yeah.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 5:39 So they... On those metal shakers-

Chris Williamson 5:41 Yep.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 5:41 ... I do... I know they have, like, milliliter marks. I don't pay attention to that. I do about three-quarters full.

Chris Williamson 5:46 Mm-hmm.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 5:47 Three-quarters full, but the water first.

Chris Williamson 5:48 With one scoop?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 5:48 With one scoop, yeah. Put the water in first, then the scoop in. Shake it. Leave it. (laughs)

Chris Williamson 5:58 This is a very important part.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 6:00 I cannot stress that enough. You must leave it. And then come back to it. Let it, let it prepare itself. Come back to it in two, three minutes.

Chris Williamson 6:07 ... when you have a sort of a, a tasty juiced protein drink.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 6:10 So, there is an argument that you should have tasty protein supplements because that induces the cephalic phase of digestion, it gets your digestive juices going. It helps you absorb the protein better. Compared to back in the day when we would just pound, like, unflavored hydrolyzed whey that just tastes a vomit, 'cause it is vomit. Chemically, it's, it's predigested protein, so it's got that vomity taste. So now, like, there's no excuse is there? You've got peach tea, watermelon... I think my, my flatmate got me some sample packs for my birthday, I think of this type of whey, and it was like a limited edition refreshers flavor-

Chris Williamson 6:49 Yeah.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 6:49 ... parma violets-

Chris Williamson 6:50 Yeah.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 6:50 ... um, like all these mad flavors. Great.

Chris Williamson 6:54 I love it. That's really cool. Like, anyone who wants to go and get that, the code MODERNWISDOM will get you 37% off or greater on everything at MyProtein if you go to bit.Ly/modernwisdom. There's a link in the show notes below. Just go and get it if you want to check out this ClearWhey. We hadn't organized that, but thanks, Johnny. That's, uh- Have either of you two tried it?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 7:11 Either of you two?

Chris Williamson 7:11 No, I'm gonna, I'm gonna... I've got my... It's the 3rd of April, so my account allowance will have been restocked and I'm gonna get one of whatever your top few flavors are. I think you'll love it, Chris. I think Yusef, I can imagine drinking and going, and then being really annoyed about it.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 7:27 (laughs)

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 7:28 (laughs)

Chris Williamson 7:28 'Cause it is quite expensive. Mm-hmm. That's the only downside. It is what it is. Yusef, what have you got for us?

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 7:35 So, on take two of the intro of this podcast, you guys asked me, "Is this T-shirt yours?" And they both... y- you clicked that it wasn't because it fits well and it's a good choice of T-shirt, and you know me well enough to know that my fashion sense is terrible. So, my life hack is whenever you wear a piece of clothing, use it as a chance to be like... 'Cause it... very few people have got too little clothes. I think clothes are unreasonably cheap, and usually we hold onto just crap T-shirts or whatever that we have just because status quo. So, it's... Use it as a chance to be like, "Do I really want to wear this in the future, or was this just a decision that past me has made that I no longer agree with?" And so now, whenever I put on a T-shirt or a, a sock or something, I'm like, "Hmm. Could this be the last time that I wear this?" And I know that there's some kind of, um, psychology... so, I mean-

Chris Williamson 8:31 (rustling sound)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 8:31 ... case in point, here's my bin with a T-shirt in it.

Chris Williamson 8:35 (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 8:36 Um...

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 8:36 (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 8:36 And it's a rubbish T-shirt. I'm not gonna miss it. I bought it maybe 10 years ago in Primark. So, the... Was it something you said about the level that you value things that you already have is different to if you were to buy it for the first time, or if you were to lose it and you want it back. And our brain plays these funny games to value things differently, and you have to kind of get objective and be like, "No, no. If I didn't own this right now, would I actually go out and buy it? Or would I be like, 'No, it's worthless to me'?" Is the value only because it's already mine? Like-

Chris Williamson 9:11 That's cool. That's like a evolution of the fittest clothing.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 9:19 Yeah.

Chris Williamson 9:19 Survival, survival of the fitted-est.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 9:22 (laughs) Of the fitted-est.

Chris Williamson 9:24 (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 9:24 I have a, I have a slight variant on that that I've actually done over the last year. I think... So, I think I might have mentioned this on a life hack before, but, um, which is, I moved basically all of my clothes onto like a separate rail in the hanger, and every time I wore something, I put it on a different rail. And after a six-month period, everything that isn't on the main rail, just get rid of. Oh, so you're doing the same thing but in batch?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 9:55 Well, it's y- the process of like-

Chris Williamson 9:56 Formalized.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 9:57 ... I can see Chris just-

Chris Williamson 9:57 Formalized process, isn't it?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 9:58 (laughs)

Chris Williamson 10:00 (laughs) No, I think... Hey, I think this is awesome. I, I have done it a different way. So, I've been taking big blocks of clothes to a buddy, and, um, he does a lot of eBay stuff, and I just said, "Look, if you want to list these on eBay, take 50% of whatever they make."

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 10:17 Right.

Chris Williamson 10:17 It was either that or the charity shop. I'll tell you what's mad. I didn't even thought of this but, the amount of money that you will get for worn but good condition training shoes. I go through a lot of pairs of Nanos and Metcons back in the day before the Reebok deal and stuff. And, um, yeah, I... they're still getting... A three-year-old pair of worn but in-all-right-condition shoes will still get 25 or 30 pounds. And then it-

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 10:42 Fetishists just love worn shoes, don't they?

Chris Williamson 10:45 I'm not sure that it's all-

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 10:47 Big market for it.

Chris Williamson 10:47 ... fetishists.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 10:48 (laughs)

Chris Williamson 10:48 Because you don't know who's worn it. Is... It surely is part of the fetish not knowing the person that wore it and thinking about them wearing it.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 10:55 Maybe.

Chris Williamson 10:55 It's not just a dirty shoe, is it?

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 10:57 Y- you have heard the story about when I was in that flat, haven't you? Yeah. I don't even know what episode that was in.

Chris Williamson 11:04 Very, very early on. Why don't you tell it again?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 11:07 (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 11:07 Okay. (laughs) One day, I was living in Edinburgh in a flat of a few people, student flat, and this guy came to the door and he had his hair like slicked back and he was in a shirt and he looked a bit spermy. And I was like, "Hello?" And he was like, "Oh, hi. Um, I'm here for the shoes." And we were like... Oh, no. He was like, "Is, is Sam in?" And I was like, "Yeah." And then someone else walked past and they were like, "Hello. Do we know you?" And he was like, "Oh, I'm just looking for Sam. And then Sam came out and said, "Oh. You all right, mate? Yeah. Um, you're here for the shoes? Yeah, no problem. Here you go." And then we were like, "Well, can you just explain what's going on here?" And he was like, "Well, if you must know, I have a foot fetish and I've... would really appreciate the, the shoes." And, and we were just like, "Okay, fine." Then after he left, we were like, "Sam, are you not bothered that there's a man who's probably doing unspeakable things to your shoes right now?" And he was like, "No, it's fine. Like, if he gets more joy out of them, then great." Basically, this guy had followed him a f-... like a week before and asked him for his, like, dirty shoes, which were in terrible state-... and he was like, "Well, yeah, you can have them, but I, I need them until Wednesday when I get a new pair. So just come back on Wednesday, and I'll give you them."

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 12:24 So it, that does sound related to the person.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 12:28 Possibly.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 12:28 Like, he's gone to quite a lot of effort, in fact, to find-

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 12:30 (laughs)

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 12:30 ... that guy's shoes specifically.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 12:33 Yeah.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 12:34 So maybe that's just what, what's happened to Chris' shoes.

Chris Williamson 12:37 Maybe. Maybe, uh, I don't know what-

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 12:39 (laughs) It's possible he may resell it. But-

Chris Williamson 12:40 Um, I was going to say, I'm one level removed, aren't I? Because someone's arbitraging my shoes. Right, okay. Uh, my first one for today is YouTube Premium. Have either of you two got YouTube Premium?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 12:51 So I've done the trial for it and didn't continue with it.

Chris Williamson 12:54 Okay. I, um, I know that Yousef won't have done.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 12:58 I'm very interested to hear. No, I've been recommended it and I, I can't see the appeal, but need to be.

Chris Williamson 13:02 So, George Mack is a big proponent of YouTube Premium, couldn't believe that I didn't have it, and-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 13:08 So I'm, I'm really open to getting it, so sell it to me, Chris.

Chris Williamson 13:12 Okay. So I decided ... It was Michaela Peterson. When ... W- we always say this, and this is a, this is a life hack for life hacks, right? Everybody that is listening, if multiple different people come to you with the same suggestion independently, just, just do it.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 13:26 (laughs)

Chris Williamson 13:26 Because the, the likelihood of the stars aligning in that way specifically, for people in separate social circles to come to you and say, "You really should try this." So George had done it, but that was just one. Then Michaela couldn't ... I think I sent her a screenshot of something I was watching on YouTube, and she noticed by the, the top bar that it wasn't YouTube Premium. And she said, "I can't believe that you don't have YouTube Premium. You need to as ..." I was, "Right, right! I will buy it." So, uh, upgraded. For the most part, I use, I use YouTube quite a bit. I also watch lots of content that I could just listen to. Also trying to reduce my screen time. And all of that combined means that No Adverts is saving me at least 10 seconds to 15 seconds per video. I think they've, YouTube have pushed the limit for the unskippable section of an ad now to between six and seven seconds, which is very cheeky of them. Um, and then, so I'm, I don't ever have to skip ads. I can swipe up and go onto other apps, or I can just lock my phone and leave it somewhere and listen to what's going on. So a lot of the time when I'm doing podcast prep for a guest, Brian Greene, who's this super famous, uh, physicist, last night, I just left the phone on the side and listened to him and Neil deGrasse Tyson talk. But it's easier to find something on YouTube than it is on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. So a lot of the time, actually, YouTube's, uh, is simpler, because the search is more optimized. It's better to listen to stuff on there. It's just a problem of having to watch it at the same time, having to stay on your phone to skip the ads. So skipping ads is a huge one. Being able to play, uh, while it's off. You get free access to YouTube Music. I haven't even downloaded it. I don't need it. Um, it is not that cheap. When you consider that a Netflix subscription is, what, for the four-person ultra HD, it's maybe 14 pounds a month now. And I think YouTube Premium-

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 15:21 Yeah.

Chris Williamson 15:21 ... is 12 to 13 pounds a month. So it's not, it's not cheap, but I mean, scale up how many videos do you watch per day, how much time do the adverts take from those videos, it's easily, I'm easily ROI positive on it. Uh, plus I don't have to use my phone, so I am now a YouTube Premium convert.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 15:40 So it's ad-free. It is, you can close the app and listen to stuff. Can you save stuff offline?

Chris Williamson 15:46 Yeah.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 15:46 Can you have like ... Yeah.

Chris Williamson 15:49 Use case for that would be super minimal. It would only be when I was maybe on a plane or, or traveling somewhere abroad, but that would be nice. There's some extra features that you get. Um, another thing is that you, you buy it and it attaches to a particular account. So let's say that you guys bought it for the Propane Fitness channel, you would actually both be able to benefit so long as you were both using the Propane Fitness channel, as opposed to what I presume you both have, which is a personal one outside of that.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 16:14 Yeah.

Chris Williamson 16:14 So I bought it, but me and Video Guy Dean now have access to YouTube Premium on the Chris Williamson main channel. So yeah.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 16:25 What do you think, Johnny? Are you sold?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 16:27 Well, so it links quite nicely with my next life hack.

Chris Williamson 16:30 Ah, it's just, it's seamless. We're in the flow.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 16:33 It's just so nice.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 16:33 It's as if we'd prepared-

Chris Williamson 16:35 But we haven't.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 16:35 And we haven't, but yeah.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 16:36 Yeah. Um, should I just go on to that then? So I have been training in my garage, which means I, when I log my training, so that I don't have to, like, be relying on my phone all the time, I use my laptop. So I've been tracking, tracking things, which is even worse.

Chris Williamson 16:55 (laughs)

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 16:55 It's even worse, 'cause that's where all my work is. But so like, I have to track a lot of stuff, which, I don't know, benefit all ...

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 17:02 This is why Johnny can no longer train in a public gym-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 17:05 'Cause I've got too much stuff with me, yeah.

Chris Williamson 17:07 (laughs)

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 17:07 I've got basically a portable lab. With like atmosph-

Chris Williamson 17:08 VR headset.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 17:09 Barometers and-

Chris Williamson 17:10 Yeah.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 17:11 Yeah, like ... (laughs) Um, but so something that I've found, and I can't explain why, but I, if I'm listening to music when I'm training, or if I, if I'm just like training on my own and I'm listening to normal music, it's like 75% benefit. But if I listen to a live version of the music, like if I listen to a live band performance or a live DJ set, there's something, even though the audio quality is worse, there's something about that, like, live experience that-

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 17:40 The energy.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 17:41 Yeah, it's brilliant. But obviously all of that's on YouTube. So having an, uh, a, a, like a, an ad, 'cause there's nothing more annoying (laughs) than like, unrack the bar, and then Grammarly has

Narrator 17:56 (laughs)

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 17:57 ... well fucking ...

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 17:59 (laughs) .

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 18:01 (laughs) And that has happened so many times to me, like the mid-roll-

Chris Williamson 18:05 Mm-hmm.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 18:05 Like, and it's, they're always the, the most intrusive as well. Like, there's nothing more contrasting than bare tooth live rapping-

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 18:11 Have you thought about setting up a life insurance policy?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 18:13 Yeah. (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 18:15 Yeah. I, another thing I-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 18:16 Like, a really aggressive set, and then it's an ad about something completely separate.... so, I like it. I like the idea.

Chris Williamson 18:21 Autoplay continues outside of when, when the app's closed. So it'll still continue to autoplay even when your phone's locked, which is nice, so you could create a little playlist and-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 18:32 (laughs)

Chris Williamson 18:32 ... it'll run through the playlist. I get what you mean about the live thing. Does your live music have to have crowd noise in?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 18:39 Yeah, I think so.

Chris Williamson 18:40 Yeah, I would agree.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 18:41 I mean, I don't know.

Chris Williamson 18:41 Live music without crowd noise is just a poorly recorded normal album track.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 18:46 Well, so the... yeah, so there's a few, there's a few instances, like, over the last year when bands and DJs have done live sets, but there's no crowd, and it's worse. It's way worse.

Chris Williamson 18:56 (laughs)

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 18:56 Whereas like (laughs) even though the aud- e- the audio's better than a, like a recorded live at a venue. But if it's live at a venue, like, there's some, like, Karang. For anyone into, like, metal music, Karang have done a seri- series in what they call The Pit, the K-Pit. Which is-

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 19:11 What, the Islamic holy book?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 19:17 (laughs) Exactly. Yeah. They organized, um, some gigs in a bar and it's... the audio's terrible, but the atmosphere's great and those, those are awesome. So YouTube-

Chris Williamson 19:29 Give us, um, give us what are the three most watched videos, live music videos, that you've gone to for training on YouTube?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 19:38 (sighs) I mean, it's very... like, the number of people who hear my recommendation and think like, "That sounds good," there'll be, there'll be like three, and one of them will be you, Chris, and the other one will be-

Chris Williamson 19:45 It doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Tell us.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 19:46 Uh, Architects Live at Reading.

Chris Williamson 19:50 What year?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 19:51 Beartooth. Uh, I think it'll just be the most recent one.

Chris Williamson 19:54 Okay.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 19:54 Um, Beartooth at, uh, Wacken Festival. And, like, anything by, like... and you'll hate this, Chris. Like, Skrillex, Steve Aoki, Martin Garrix, anything like that. Anything by very, like, EDM, like very... lots of crowd noise, lots of, uh, "Three, two, one, jump!"

Chris Williamson 20:14 Yeah.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 20:14 Lots of that. (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 20:15 (laughs)

Chris Williamson 20:15 "Three, two, one, lift." Is it? (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 20:17 Yeah, all that stuff. Yeah.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 20:20 Yeah. I mean, to be honest as well, like, some of the powerlifting or, like, lifting motivation videos as well, as cheesy as they are, they're good as well. If you're, if you need to really pull a lever on something, something like that can be quite good as well.

Chris Williamson 20:33 That's cool, man.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 20:34 There you go.

Chris Williamson 20:35 I... Hey, I, um, I've been watching Reggie Sasa who is one of the guy... JST athletes, he's just come third in the UK in the, the open. Uh, came sixth in the world in the, uh, 21.2 workout. Monster. The guy, the guy's a freak. But the stuff that he listens to, that those guys listen to as they're getting ready to send it, uh, like, is it Ian Van Dahl, Castles In The Sky?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 21:02 (laughs) Come on. Sh- yeah.

Chris Williamson 21:03 But, but like a, a 170 BPM Gabber version, or like some German techno. Yusef's nodding along quietly there at 170 BPM. That's your sort of shit.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 21:13 Beautiful.

Chris Williamson 21:14 But, uh-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 21:14 Yeah.

Chris Williamson 21:15 So I-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 21:15 That's right in my element. (laughs)

Chris Williamson 21:16 I think, I think one thing that's been lacking definitely over the last year, there's just been no reason to send anything. It's been such a low energy year, generally. You haven't really been laughing with friends. That hasn't-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 21:27 Can you define "send anything"?

Chris Williamson 21:29 What, so... So-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 21:29 Full send.

Chris Williamson 21:30 Yeah, sending it. So, wh- why... what if you... what's the reason to get excited about, really, any... like, I go and do a, a session on the bike in my kitchen. Oh, yeah-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 21:39 Right.

Chris Williamson 21:39 ... really gonna get myself excited for this to move the five meters from my living room to my kitchen so that I can get on the bike for... and do steady state for half an hour. Um, and the opportunities to kind of give yourself some energy extrinsically by putting some good music on with crowd noise. So it's like these are... this is my 10,000 fake friends for today and, um-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 22:00 Yeah.

Chris Williamson 22:00 ... they've joined you in your, in your garage as you're lifting.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 22:03 I think it's good that we-

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 22:04 Well, yeah. It's good that we know how much that we, we like to kind of bounce energy off each other as humans.

Chris Williamson 22:10 Yeah, I'm like-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 22:10 Well, I... something I'm a- I'm aware of at the moment is like the... I've still got the 10% available to add onto my session by just like being in a gym with other people. So, you know, like a session that's hard, add a bit of music on, add a bit of atmosphere, caffeine, feel really good, it's gonna be like... it's still only gonna be 90% was if I did the same thing at a meet or in a busy gym-

Chris Williamson 22:30 Yep.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 22:31 ... it's, it's always going to be better. There's always that extra little bit to pull, which is cool. So that's exciting for when stuff reopens again.

Chris Williamson 22:37 Live music for training. I like that.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 22:40 Yeah.

Chris Williamson 22:40 Seth-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 22:40 Live music in general. Can't wait to go to something live. It's so good.

Chris Williamson 22:43 Uh, what have I got, what have I got tickets for? I bought tickets for, uh, ABGT 450 with Anjunadeep the next day. I think it's at the dockyards or something in London. Um, that's-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 22:56 That sounds good.

Chris Williamson 22:56 There's still tickets available if you want to come. Uh, George... me and George Mack have bought tickets for it. Um, but yeah, it's in September. Are you adding it to Omnifocus?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 23:04 Yeah.

Chris Williamson 23:05 Beautiful. Beautiful. Uh, but yeah, that's gonna be sick. That's the first thing that I've got booked in. Um, that's in September. I still don't know if it's gonna happen, but nevermind.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 23:14 If we, if we don't go and see Bring Me The Horizon in September, Chris, I will be inconsolable.

Chris Williamson 23:18 It's already sorted. You know Oli's bought a house with his missus in Brazil? Did I tell you this?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 23:23 No. (laughs)

Chris Williamson 23:24 Yeah. Oli Sykes bought a house in Brazil with his missus. So he sold... he flogged his one in Sheffield, the one with the gym and, and the pool. Um, so he flogged that one and now he was like, uh, just... they were out there in Brazil and he couldn't come back and if he'd come back he'd have had to stay in a hotel and do all of this thing. And, uh, now there's like-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 23:43 He should move that.

Chris Williamson 23:44 What? He's just... they bought a house. They're like, "Oh, we'll just buy a house and then if I need to..."

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 23:48 (laughs)

Chris Williamson 23:48 Like, "We'll just keep it." I guess that's what happens when you've got fucking money, isn't it? Um, yeah, just-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 23:54 Like, it's easy to just buy a house.

Chris Williamson 23:56 Ridiculous, man. Honestly, watching, watching the guys... and this is on their public stories on Instagram, so everybody else f- that follows Bring Me The Horizon's band mates knows this, but, like, Matt Nichols, the drummer, will spend days like repointing the brickwork in-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 24:14 (laughs)

Chris Williamson 24:15 ... in, in his conservatory. And some... because they're just such working class Sheffield blokes-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 24:22 (laughs)

Chris Williamson 24:22 ... that happen to be world famous rock stars. Like, you, you, you don't really think about another Ozzy Osborne or-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 24:30 (laughs)

Chris Williamson 24:30 ... you know, Aerosmith. You don't think about them doing the pointing in their conservatory. But yeah, I, I... there's something I quite like about that.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 24:39 Well, it's when, like, you could easily pay someone to do it, but there's something rewarding about doing it yourself.

Chris Williamson 24:45 Yeah, I know. Right, Seth-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 24:46 It's doing it out of choice, isn't it? That's the difference.

Chris Williamson 24:50 ... what you got?

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 24:50 This is on the back of the YouTube Premium, so I've, I, I heard your sales pitch and-

Chris Williamson 24:56 (clears throat)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 24:56 ... I raise you an alternative method (sniffs) just because, for me, none of those features hit my pain points to, to sign up for YouTube Premium. Partly because I don't really use my phone, so the idea of being able to play a video with the screen off compared to the screen on is, like, kind of irrelevant to me. Um, so what I do for YouTube is everything's done entirely through Alfred. You can search and then find a video within Alfred, so that's, like, the app. Y- even your browser doesn't have to be open. And then you can play it through a media player called IINA, I-I-N-A. So you can just play any URL, any playlist. It remembers the spot that you were in last time along the video. You can adjust the speed and skip forward and back and stuff with the keyboard shortcuts. It doesn't buffer. It just loads the whole thing, and then you can just play it as if it's like a, a, a video that you've downloaded, and it's generally just a lot less intrusive. There's no adverts. I haven't seen an advert in years 'cause, 'cause I use Brave, which is the life hack from a few, a couple of years back probably now. So, my recommendation would be just get Alfred properly set up, figure out all of your use cases, even if it's stuff that, like, watching YouTube, you think it, there wouldn't be an Alfred fix for it, there probably is. So, start with my YouTube video and then just browse the Alfred repository and you will have a lovely time.

Chris Williamson 26:30 Cool.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 26:30 The problem with Alfred is it's like a, it's a blank canvas with a really nice set of paints.

Chris Williamson 26:37 (laughs)

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 26:37 And, like, you've got, you've got the potential to create something brilliant, but you could also do, like, a smiley face stick man. Like, you've got to know what you're doing. I mean, you've got to know what you're trying to create.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 26:46 That is such a good analogy. (laughs)

Chris Williamson 26:47 Yeah. Yeah. He, so Yusuf tried to give me some sort of workflow, mac- macro workflow thing for Alfred, sent me it the other day, um, so that I can search my notes, 'cause I've got 2,000 notes on Apple Notes, and Yusuf sent me some workflow. I pressed a button and then what, what came up? That I, I didn't have the, the Python CSS, like, existing library module to plug it in. And I, I was watching the genesis of a Scoby problem occur in front of my eyes.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 27:15 (laughs)

Chris Williamson 27:15 I'd been infected with it. I was seeing it. The, the-

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 27:19 (laughs) .

Chris Williamson 27:19 Was it Prometheus? That, I was watching the Prometheus vizio of...

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 27:24 Evolving from the embryonic state into-

Chris Williamson 27:27 That's it.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 27:27 ... the fully-fledged alien.

Chris Williamson 27:28 Yep.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 27:28 Yeah.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 27:28 'Cause when- whenever that happens and, like, the Saw music plays, you know, when he's going like, "I'd like to play a game," and it's th- and, like, things, it slowly becomes really serious and you realize how enormous the problem is, and you're like, "Well, I'm s- I'm stuck now. That's it."

Chris Williamson 27:39 That's exactly what he was trying to do too.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 27:41 Trash it.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 27:41 Yeah, so...

Narrator 27:41 (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 27:41 So I should say, like, getting YouTube Premium is the, like, simple sledgehammer solution. It's like, "Look, I'll just, I'll just pay the 15 quid, just leave me alone, I just want to listen to some music with the screen off. Thank you very much. Yes." If you're willing to put in some time and you, you know, you're willing to kind of get out the paints and sketch out the, the picture, the skeleton first and then paint it on top, and you can put in the time for it, then Alfred is worth it, yeah.

Chris Williamson 28:05 So if you've got more money than time, buy YouTube Premium. If you've got more time than money, use IINA-

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 28:10 Well...

Chris Williamson 28:10 ... and Alfred.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 28:12 ... the, the point of Alfred is that it saves you money long term, but there is a bit of... And I mean, obviously this doesn't go for ev- for anyone using a Windows computer, like, that's several steps away. Just... (laughs)

Chris Williamson 28:23 Throw it out the window.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 28:23 (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 28:23 What you want to do is, is if you take your computer and go out of your back door, open up the recycling bin-

Chris Williamson 28:29 (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 28:31 ... and just put it in there-

Chris Williamson 28:32 Gently deposit it in.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 28:32 ... and then come back to your seat.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 28:33 With a hammer first. You forgot the hammer.

Chris Williamson 28:35 Yeah.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 28:36 (laughs)

Chris Williamson 28:37 Uh, right. My next one is TypeFully.app. So I sent this to Yusuf yesterday. Um, if you are someone who uses Twitter and wants to create long tweet threads from single blocks of text or from text that's been worked up into paragraphs, TypeFully allows you to write out the entire tweet thread, including previews for URLs and everything else. It brings up a live preview of exactly how it's going to look on your account, and you don't need to move things around between the different thread windows or the tweets within the thread windows. You can just move the text within a block, a typing block typically like you'd have on your notes, and it'll automatically do it. It won't cut off halfway between different sentences. It's all formatted beautifully, and then it's one button to press Send. It's like, I c- and, and it's free. It's ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 29:28 It's, I mean, that, that solves a, a problem that for many people they're like, "What? Tweet threads? What's that?"

Narrator 29:33 (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 29:33 But for people that write tweet threads, it is, it is such a ballache to get it all into the right formatting. So very good.

Chris Williamson 29:40 Not much more to say about that. Just TypeFully.app. You should go and check it out. If you're a Twitter user that uses tweet threads, then it'll save your life. Johnny, what you got?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 29:49 Um, this. What's it gonna be?

Chris Williamson 29:55 I don't know.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 29:56 Wad welder.

Chris Williamson 29:58 Ah ha ha ha. Yes.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 30:00 So I think this is something that you may have recommended to me, Chris.

Chris Williamson 30:03 Yeah.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 30:03 But... Some, some time ago. So they have a kit which includes this tub, which smells great, and that's part of the benefit of it. And there's a little stick and a little pumice stone that comes in a, in a pack. I used to have a problem. (laughs) I think you've both seen it actually. Like, it would happen to me all the time where I'd be, like, deadlifting and training for months and then a huge callus would go on my hand. And it would be... Like, I wouldn't be able to train on it. And it would feel like when you touched your hand, you were touching raw nerve ending. It was so, it was so painful. So this stuff, I put it on my desk and, like, just before I start work, use it. And it's easy to do because it smells brilliant. And-... I mean, touch wood, I've not had any callus problems since I've been using it.

Chris Williamson 30:49 For the people that don't know-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 30:50 So I've got-

Chris Williamson 30:50 ... what, what is the WodWelder product? What does the balm do? What's it got in it?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 30:54 Uh, it's the same thing as, um-

Chris Williamson 30:57 Lanolin.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 30:57 It's lan- lanolin, isn't it? That's the, the thing that, like, softens your skin. So this is the, like, the daily cream, and then there's a stick that you put just on your, um, just on your callused areas of your hands, and then there's a pumice stone to, like, sand down the, the uneven edges. Go on, Seth.

Chris Williamson 31:15 Dudes, WodWelder.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 31:16 (laughs)

Chris Williamson 31:17 So I've o- I've never used the cream and I've never used the pumice stone, but it's like a Pritt Stick. The-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 31:21 Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah.

Chris Williamson 31:22 So that's the... It literally looks like a Pritt Stick. You push it up from the bottom and then you just do little circular motions. It does smell awesome.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 31:29 Yes.

Chris Williamson 31:29 It's fixed, it's fixed my hands so quickly. You know when you're doing the Open, when the Open used to be six weeks long, and you'd tear them one week, and by the next week they were getting back to usable again, which is pretty insane. Um, yeah, um, WodWeld is... And you, I think you can buy it on Amazon as well.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 31:48 You can.

Chris Williamson 31:48 So, I mean, just-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 31:49 That's how I got it. Yep.

Chris Williamson 31:50 ... go and buy it on Amazon.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 31:51 It's brilliant.

Chris Williamson 31:51 If you're, if you're someone that lifts and needs to protect your hands and you find that you're getting calloused hand tears, especially... Anyone that's in CrossFit should already know about this. They use, um, what's that... It's like Smithy's Working Hands Cream or something like that, and it's £1 for a huge tub of it from Aldi. Uh, but it just smells like, well, it smells exactly as you would think Smithy's Working Men's Hand Cream would smell.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 32:14 (laughs)

Chris Williamson 32:14 (laughs)

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 32:15 Like a working man.

Chris Williamson 32:16 Yeah.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 32:16 You can use veterinary udder cream as well, but that's, obviously smells like a veterinary product.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 32:22 Oh, udder?

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 32:23 Udder. It's funny 'cause it... So Johnny and I were talking about this recently, where if you're a powerlifter and you think your calluses are bad, like, look at the callouses of a weightlifter. If you're a weightlifter-

Chris Williamson 32:32 (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 32:33 ... and you think your callouses are bad, look at a crossfitter. And then if you think your calluses are bad, look at the gymnasts. Like, some of the, the stuff that you see at gymnastics, like people doing something off the rings and they just, like, flap of their palm just off. Like-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 32:44 Like, take their fingers half off and they've got-

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 32:46 (laughs)

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 32:46 ... tape wrapped it. Do you not have this... Is this not a problem with gymnastics? I've never heard-

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 32:50 Yeah. So, so I'm, I don't like doing rings very much. I'm not very good at rings and barre, so I just kind of don't do them.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 32:57 Right.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 32:57 So for me, floor and pommel, pommel's not really-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 33:00 It's not, not as hand care.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 33:01 ... as prone to it, yeah. But-

Chris Williamson 33:03 Interesting.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 33:03 ... always take care of your hands.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 33:04 Whenever someone, like when I was first told about, like, hand care, I was like, "No."

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 33:09 (laughs)

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 33:09 I'm not gonna do hand care.

Chris Williamson 33:10 Lifting 310 kilos, mate. I don't need to worry about... I'm passed hand care, all right?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 33:15 Well, it's the things you end up, like, really valuing, like the skin on your hands, stone. Like, it's fine until you can no longer grip something at all. Like, well, it's fine until h- opening a door hurts and then you're like, "Okay-"

Chris Williamson 33:29 It's at the forefront-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 33:29 "... I should probably-"

Chris Williamson 33:30 ... of your experience as well, right?Like there's nothing-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 33:32 Yeah.

Chris Williamson 33:32 It's the same as having a back injury or having an aching shoulder or a pulled neck. It's so there-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 33:38 Took all your thought, yeah.

Chris Williamson 33:38 ... just all the time here.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 33:41 (laughs) I think back pain is the, the, the worst for that.

Chris Williamson 33:44 Yeah.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 33:44 But yeah.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 33:44 A- anything axial. Toothache, back pain, anything along, along, like, the, the midline axis where it is just that, isn't it?

Chris Williamson 33:51 In front of the face. Right. What have you got, Seth?

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 33:54 So this is free advertising for ... company. But I recently had a steak from Block and Bottle, which is a place in the Northeast that does, as you can imagine, like, craft beers and craft steaks, whatever you call, like, boutique steaks. Everyone in there has got, you know, a beard and a, a plug in their ear and they're all... You go in and they're like, "Hello, sir. How can I help you?" And, "Oh, we have this particular range of cow today and it's, it's from the, the fragrant forests of Azkaban." And, uh, we can-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 34:24 (laughs) Is the story about the meat?

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 34:26 Oh-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 34:26 Each piece of meat?

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 34:27 Incredible. And, and it's all, you know... They've got loads of different cuts and types of meat, and, um, the... It's, it's a bit pricey, but it's no more than you would pay in a restaurant or something. And you, when you make it yourself, you just treat it with such care, and it is beautiful. And so I like a rib eye. That's definitely my top, top choice steak and I, I'm willing to fight anyone who disagrees, but, um, rib eye is supposed to be cooked medium or medium well, um, as opposed to other steaks because it's so fatty and you want the marbling and the, the fat to kind of infuse throughout it. Now the hack is when you have a fatty cut of steak, if you end up with gristly bits, a lot of people throw that away, but you can just fry it harder at the end and you've then just got, like... Because then it just melts and creates, like, new very nice bits. You don't want to waste it. So the hack is don't throw away your gristly bits. Just try frying them hard and see what happens.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 35:33 And order expensive steak as well.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 35:36 Yeah. Definitely.

Chris Williamson 35:37 So did you have to... Is, can you order Block and Bottle online? Do they deliver?

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 35:41 I th- Possibly. It's, um... They, they have a, they have a shop with a, a big queue out the front and, you know, you can-

Chris Williamson 35:49 Where is it?

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 35:49 It's also all very customized. It's a great experience. It's in Heaton.

Chris Williamson 35:52 Okay.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 35:53 I, I've seen a few people talking about... So I actually saw Keeno Body mention that Mikhaila Peterson had recommended a meat delivery company to him.

Chris Williamson 36:02 Yeah. She sponsored.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 36:04 Is... Right. So I've just seen a few people m- like, s- talking about how they've had steak delivered over there.

Chris Williamson 36:09 So I've just got... I've literally just had reached out to me. I think it's The Dry Aged Steak Co. Or something, have just reached out to me, uh, about the show. I, I've told them to send some stuff out and I'll see how it is. Um, but yeah, I, I think high quality organic meat, people are now becoming increasingly concerned about the different antibiotics that are being pumped into their-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 36:29 Mm-hmm.

Chris Williamson 36:30 ... uh, food and stuff like that. So it doesn't surprise me that as carnivore diets become more popular, as people are going keto or low carb-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 36:38 (clears throat)

Chris Williamson 36:38 ... that increasingly high quality meat is a thing.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 36:43 It... Yeah. It's not something I, I ever... (sighs) I try and limit the, kind of, bandwidth that I spend on things that I can't control, but this is probably pushing at the...... the precipice of, like, "Maybe this is something we should be looking after." Because it was a, it was a interview with a farmer on Joe Rogan talking about, like, a chicken breast in the States costs like, I don't know, ni- uh, $1.20 or something. And he was like, "There is no way that that should cost $1.20." Like, something is being, something's missing from that.

Chris Williamson 37:15 Yeah.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 37:15 And what's happening is that the environmental cost is being, um, offset so that you can get a chicken breast for super cheap. But, as a result, you're getting loads of, yeah, antibiotics and fecal matter in the food and all that kind of stuff to be able to keep the prices so low. And so, his whole idea is, like, the farming structure needs to be completely redone.

Chris Williamson 37:38 I had Chris Baber, who is M&S's in-house food chef, I had him on the show, uh, a couple of weeks ago, and he was saying the one thing that he always goes organic and the highest quality at is meat. He actually says that he goes vegan two days a week so that he can afford to go the highest quality meat for five days, and he would rather do that than have lower quality meat across the week. He also said another thing, which is when you're eating a steak, you're supposed to use the steak knife to cut cross through the fibers as opposed to long way down the fibers. The reason being that those fibers are long and stringy and they get stuck in your teeth, and you can break them up immediately by just cutting across them. And I didn't know this rule. Did you guys know this rule? Oh, okay. Well-

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 38:25 Yeah, but I'm a, I'm a pretty steak-y man, so...

Chris Williamson 38:27 Okay. Um, I didn't know, I didn't know it-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 38:29 I don't think I knew that about...

Chris Williamson 38:30 Yeah, so just cut across so that you break up the fib- the fibers already, and then... Yeah. (grunts) Like that.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 38:38 (laughs)

Chris Williamson 38:38 Uh, so yeah, cut, cut across. Um, what am I gonna do next? Okay, so I'm gonna do readwise.io which is, anybody that follows me on Instagram will know that pretty much every day there's a couple of quotes that come from a book, and Readwise is the service that I use that delivers me that. So, it automatically syncs in with your Kindle and highlights, then it redelivers you a set number of highlights at a set time over email each day. If you want to go onto the website, there's a partner app as well. You can use it as a flashcard service, kind of like Anki for spaced repetition so that you start to actually learn the insights you've got. You can favorite them, you can discard them, you can delete them. You can also upload directly from your Kindle on documents which are not in your Kindle library. So let's say that you've sent a PDF to your, uh, Kindle, you can do a, an upload every so often and they give you a periodic reminder to say, "It's been three months since you plugged your Kindle in. Maybe you should go and do that." Or you can turn it off. Once you've got it set up, it is super unintrusive. And every single day, I get four quotes that I've highlighted from my books, from books that I've read. And if you've made notes in Kindle as well, so you can highlight something and then you can make a note if you choose to, so I'm starting to do that as well. So, here's something that I think and, oh, here's what I think about that thing right now. Uh, and it also includes that. It's, uh, i- it's phenomenal. Like, for remembering the things that you care about, about reading, it's outstanding. And, um...

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 40:10 S- so you take notes while you're, while you're reading and feed it into Readwise?

Chris Williamson 40:15 No.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 40:15 And it then...

Chris Williamson 40:16 No.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 40:16 Okay.

Chris Williamson 40:16 So, the highlight that you make on Kindle-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 40:19 On Kindle.

Chris Williamson 40:19 Yeah.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 40:20 Yep. It saves that.

Chris Williamson 40:21 It just, as soon as you do that, it just takes that.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 40:22 Okay.

Chris Williamson 40:22 But there's also a, an option when you highlight something, you can press on it and make a note-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 40:28 Right.

Chris Williamson 40:29 ... in the Kindle. But you don't need to... I, I do that very rarely. That's maybe, like, one in 20.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 40:33 And, and it then emails them back to you or something like that? Or-

Chris Williamson 40:36 Yeah. Just randomly-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 40:37 Randomly.

Chris Williamson 40:37 ... randomly picks, randomly picks them up and pulls them through, and then as they come through you can either discard them or favorite them or just leave them. And I think I have thousands, thousands of highlights now.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 40:47 That's pretty cool. So like every day, you just get a little reminder of something you've read in the past.

Chris Williamson 40:51 I get four, four little passages and... Yeah, i- i- one thing that it's done which I need to deprogram is now, sometimes I want to highlight something because I think it's important in the book-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 41:04 (laughs)

Chris Williamson 41:04 ... but I know, I, I, I actually start thinking about how that's going to appear when it comes up on my Readwise.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 41:08 (laughs)

Chris Williamson 41:08 I'm like, "No, no, no, no. Like, you're not highlighting stuff for Readwise, you're highlighting stuff because it needs highlighted." But, um...

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 41:14 Yeah.

Chris Williamson 41:15 Yeah. I, it's, it's, it's great. If you read, if you use a Kindle, I think Readwise is, is mandatory really because it'll just continue to redeliver you these, the best bits of books that you've already been through.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 41:28 That's cool.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 41:28 You're so deep in the Kindle ecosystem. I love it. I, I, I need to do that as well 'cause I, I've, I've just, people keep getting me physical books and now I've just got to get through them before I convert.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 41:39 I bet you, that's bitter sweet for you I imagine.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 41:41 (laughs) Yeah, it's like, "Ah, thank you. (laughs) Thanks mate."

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 41:44 Thanks. Thanks so much.

Chris Williamson 41:45 Right, Blobson, what you got?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 41:48 Um, a hack for improving a review process. So if anyone listened to Chris's interview with Chris Sparks in December, end of December, talks about like week- uh, talks about monthly reviews, um, or quarterly reviews. So as we're recording this, it's like the end of quarter one of 2021. So I always find reviewing, you know the, like the standard review questions of like what went well, what didn't go well? Where the hell do you begin with that? Especially if you're like looking back over a long period of time. Again, this is something we may have already covered but it's something that's been more relevant for me recently. So I think an easy way to prompt your memory of what went well and what didn't go well is look at your, firstly your calendar. So if you have events, things that you've done, stuff that you've went like, I mean, it's maybe not that good at this point but generally like people you saw, stuff you did, um, highlights and it's really easy to pick out 'cause you look up days and you're like, "Oh yeah, that was awesome." Maybe you've completely forgotten about it until you see it on the calendar. Or like actually that week was rubbish and here's why. So it's a really easy way...... you just treat your calendar like a past record of what happened, and then you've got it ready to go and saved. Or your, if you take a lot of photos, your, your photo reel, like your camera reel on your phone as a way of just remembering things that happened or places that you've been to, et cetera. So, uh, just an easier way to prompt the memories, 'cause I think it's quite easy to forget things that went well or didn't go well.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 43:18 So, can I just add something to that? Day One have now, um, they, they look like they're moving more in that direction. So they've, they're launching deeper calendar integration, more kind of photos, integration and stuff, so that you can basically like, yeah, whip through almost a, a museum of your life.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 43:37 That's cool.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 43:37 Pretty, pretty cool.

Chris Williamson 43:38 What was that thing? Was it Timehop? Do you remember Timehop?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 43:41 Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 43:42 Oh, yeah.

Chris Williamson 43:42 Which was-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 43:43 Like, nearly five years ago.

Chris Williamson 43:43 ... you logged in on all of your different social media accounts, and it would show you what-

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 43:46 And they steal all your data, and they sell it to China, and, yeah.

Chris Williamson 43:49 (laughs)

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 43:50 Day One, Day One does that already. So whenever you make a new entry in Day One, it's like, "In 2015, on this day, you were doing..." Then you're like, "Bloody hell, I had totally forgotten about that." But it's kind of a different... You don't think like, "Oh, yeah, that's helpful to review 2015." You know? (laughs) It's not-

Chris Williamson 44:07 So, you're saying that when you're doing a review, check your calendar and your photos, because it's a good prompt.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 44:12 It's just stuff that pr- most people... So I know, I think Yusuf deletes calendar entries. So some, maybe some people do that. I don't know. Like I personally-

Chris Williamson 44:19 No one does that.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 44:19 ... once a day, past-

Chris Williamson 44:20 No one does that.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 44:21 (laughs) Well, you, you never know. So like-

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 44:24 It's because I'm, I'm one of those perverts that uses a calendar and calendar events as to-do items, so-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 44:31 Perverts. (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 44:31 ... keeping them on.

Chris Williamson 44:32 Disgusting. Disgusting. (laughs)

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 44:34 Um, but yeah. So like, if, like I can look at January and remember like key things that happened, um, like stuff that I did or stuff that... Um, but it, it is more events-based. And then photos are things that you... Usually if something's memorable or like interesting, most people's reaction at this point is to take a photo of it. So if you've got that as well, it's a way of like... Mo- most people's photo reel on their phone is like highlights of, of stuff that's happened, right? So it's a really easy way to, to look back.

Chris Williamson 45:01 What's the process that you go through for your quarterly review? Have you got, have you taken it from somewhere?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 45:07 It's just as simple as that. Like what went well, what didn't go well, what am I gonna do more of, what am I gonna do less of.

Chris Williamson 45:11 Have you split that into-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 45:13 Yeah.

Chris Williamson 45:13 ... like career, health, relationships and other?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 45:15 Um, yeah. I think sometimes, like the categories thing, 'cause that's the st- struggle I had with the Chris Sparks framework, is like there's probably things that are, at any one period o- of your life, are like forefront of the focus. So you'll have like a period of your time where there's a lot of focus on health or a lot of focus on relationships or work. So there's not always tons of stuff in each category. So I tend to just freeform it and just do generally, like, what do I think is going well, what do I think isn't going well, and just whatever comes to mind, really.

Chris Williamson 45:44 Yeah.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 45:45 To be honest, I don't, I don't feel very good at the process. Like it's something I struggle with, but I think, I think, I think most people do.

Chris Williamson 45:50 At least you're doing it though, man. Like, I, um, I, even my weekly review on OmniFocus, I've said to you before, I'm still struggling-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 45:57 Beautiful.

Chris Williamson 45:57 ... to discipline myself with that, because it's just an arduous task and the desire is always to do work, not to review and plan work. It's like, "Well, I could spend this time planning and reviewing doing." You're like, well, no, like the reason that you can do better is because you've reviewed and planned. So-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 46:13 Mm-hmm.

Chris Williamson 46:13 ... I've got, um, I've got Greg McKeown coming on the show soon, and his new book's Effortless, which is-

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 46:18 Ooh.

Chris Williamson 46:18 ... all about how you make the things that you have to do easier. Um, so I'm looking, I've got, um, a couple of chapters into it and, uh, I'm looking forward to maybe getting some-

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 46:28 That is going straight on the list. If someone could buy me the physical book version of that, please.

Chris Williamson 46:33 (laughs)

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 46:33 You being serious? (laughs) Something just linked, linked to that, just before we move on. So with the weekly review thing, I've found, and I suppose this isn't someone, you maybe can't always do this, but we have a, in Propane, we have a meeting on a Monday, like a, a weekly meeting. I know that if I've done my weekly review prior to that meeting, I'm more, I'm... like the meeting's more useful. It's like if I've been through everything, then I'm able to like delegate things or bring things up that I need to talk about, or, "Oh, actually this is relevant now," or whatever. So having s- and, and again, it's hard if you don't have that, but having some kind of- Accountability. ... like, if I do it by this point, then this thing is better.

Chris Williamson 47:14 Mm-hmm.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 47:15 It just... Because it's never fun really, is it? Like looking over all of the projects you have and trying to decide what's relevant, what isn't relevant. Like it's not immediately enjoyable.

Chris Williamson 47:23 Mm-hmm.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 47:23 So if you can add some kind of necessity to it, I've found that really helps.

Chris Williamson 47:27 That is, that is good to, uh, an obvious explicit outcome, benefit that you're going to get.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 47:33 And a- and a, like a line in the sand of like, "On Monday at 1:45 PM, I need to have done my weekly review."

Chris Williamson 47:39 Yeah.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 47:39 Otherwise, it's like I'm sat there going, "Has anyone got anything to say?" "Well, I would have done if I'd done my weekly review, but..." (laughs)

Chris Williamson 47:45 Yeah, good. Oh, well, you've just told Yusuf there, if you turn up and you're, you s- stay quiet for most of the meeting, he knows that-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 47:50 He'll know.

Chris Williamson 47:50 ... you've had a shitty weekend.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 47:51 He'll know, yeah.

Chris Williamson 47:51 Yeah, exactly. Let's go.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 47:52 Okay. Is everything okay?

Chris Williamson 47:53 What you got?

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 47:54 So I was gonna do a physical one, but actually, um, I think this one's taken the, the, the limelight because of what Jonny's just said, which is the Apple Photos app, particularly the Mac version, but they, they integrate so well. Um, I've upgraded to the, the full bells and whistles iCloud storage just because it's like, it's just so smooth now. And I went through a process of, you know, a, a few years ago when, when my dad died and we cleared out the house, there was loads of like family photos and all that kind of stuff, and there's ju- like, so much stuff that you get archived. And we've like been arranging to get it scanned, and then you're like, "Oh, now I've just got like folders of old memories that aren't really doing anything." So I went through and basically just put them all into Apple Photos. Still got the rest to be digitized by a, a company. But what it, what it allows you to do is, it just makes everything fully searchable. 'Cause by the time you've got over 1000 photos, you're never gonna be like looking through them individually. And quite often you want to pick one for a specific purpose or to make a card for someone or whatever.... and so what Apple Photos does is you tag people's faces in it, and it links with your contacts, and then it'll start to recognize more photos of that person. And also, location tags, if you took the photo with your phone. So suddenly, rather than having folders or whatever, you've just got a fully searchable database where you can type in someone's name, or you can type in, like, Belgium or 2017 or whatever, and it's- it's just, like, the smoothest experience. So I think if you can learn to leverage it fully and also be quite selective about what you put into Apple Photos, don't just, like ... You know when you're out and you take, like, 10 photos of someone at- on a bridge, and you're like, some of them are like that, and then you, and you just say, "Oh, I'll- I'll sort them out later," or, "I'll delete the dodgy ones in a bit," and you never get round to it. You need to make a habit of, like, either at the end of the day or just at the time, like, picking the best photo rather than, like, leaving all seven in there.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 49:59 It makes, like, little video montages as well, doesn't it, and plays them?

Chris Williamson 50:02 That's so funny. (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 50:03 Oh, yeah.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 50:04 Plays music over them.

Chris Williamson 50:05 Yeah. Tw- your- your 2020. (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 50:12 Here we go.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 50:12 (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 50:12 Just a bunch of, like, selfies.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 50:16 (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 50:16 On your own in the room.

Chris Williamson 50:17 You're looking lonely, yeah, existential crises. Yeah, so what do you use Apple Photos for mostly? 'Cause I don't know about you, Johnny, but I very rarely go back through my photos. It's just a, it's a media storage device...

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 50:33 Oh.

Chris Williamson 50:33 ... as far as I'm concerned for-

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 50:35 Like, I'm- I'm bit ... Okay, so let- let me talk you through, 'cause I've got a bunch.

Chris Williamson 50:37 'Cause you don't strike me ... we don't take a lot of photos when we're together, so I don't know whether-

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 50:42 Yeah, we- we don't. I- I feel like we should take more 'cause we're, like, we're usually having too much fun to take photos. We're not, "Oh, actually, like-"

Chris Williamson 50:48 Yeah.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 50:48 "... it would be quite a good..." So I've got-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 50:51 Or our body- just buy body cams.

Chris Williamson 50:52 (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 50:53 Body ... Yeah, that's what we need.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 50:54 (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 50:54 Um, so I've got a shared album with my girlfriend, so any time we're, like, out somewhere or whatever and we take some photos, we just both put them into the shared album, and then we've got, like-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 51:04 Great idea.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 51:04 Yeah.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 51:04 Like, that's- that's better than the original hack.

Chris Williamson 51:07 (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 51:07 Yeah. Well- well, the original hack was just use Apple Photos, isn't it?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 51:10 Right.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 51:11 So... (laughs)

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 51:11 This is a sub-hack within the hack.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 51:13 Yeah, and then, um, I've got one for, like, stuff that's potentially gonna go on Instagram, so if you have, like, a good shot that would be, like, a PR kind of photo-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 51:23 That's a great one.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 51:23 ... um, so that kind of thing. Then you've got ones organized by event or location or whatever else, um, and so as a result, you can end up ... Oh, I've got one for, like, testimonials that clients send us, um, one of the property that I'm working on and developing, so I can get, like, a kind of time-lapse effect. So I think using, just using the- the tools to its full extent.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 51:52 Having a shared album with your partner is- is a good one.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 51:55 Good idea.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 51:55 One thing that I did when I went away to Rome was get- create a shared album between all of the people that go away on holiday.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 52:05 Yeah, there's nothing worse-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 52:05 Yeah, that's

Narrator 52:05 Yeah.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 52:05 ... than, like, 10 people having, like-

Chris Williamson 52:08 Oh, can you, can you AirDrop me, AirDrop me those ones from today?

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 52:11 Oh, what a, what a pain in the bum.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 52:13 There's so- well, there's so many applications of that, 'cause you, like, every event, like weddings, all these things, like, you can just create cloud shared albums of-

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 52:21 Well, the- the consequence if you don't, like, Claire is gonna have some absolute corker of a photo that she's only sent-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 52:27 Ah.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 52:27 ... to one person and then, like-

Chris Williamson 52:28 Fucked it.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 52:28 ... yeah.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 52:28 And Claire forgets her iCloud login.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 52:31 Ah.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 52:31 And then that's it.

Chris Williamson 52:33 Wrecked it. Right, uh-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 52:34 I think that's hack of the day for me.

Chris Williamson 52:36 What, do you reckon the, uh, have a shared album with your partner?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 52:40 I think just use- use the Apple in f- like, set it up properly-

Chris Williamson 52:44 Yeah.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 52:44 ... and then everything's easier. That's-

Chris Williamson 52:45 I'm so impressed-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 52:46 ... my hack of the day.

Chris Williamson 52:46 ... with how much, how much you use your laptop in- as opposed to your phone, Yusuf. Like, I think-

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 52:53 I just hate my phone. My thumbs are too fat.

Chris Williamson 52:56 But you- but you- you've got quite a big one now. You haven't got the tiny little...

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 53:01 Yeah, that's true.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 53:02 It's just 'cause the speed ... So we, we did a test on, when we were recording-

Chris Williamson 53:05 (laughs)

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 53:05 ... the podcast the other day just to demonstrate how much faster Yusuf is with a laptop than most other people. So I tried to find a previous episode of a podcast we'd done, and I knew what it was called, and I knew where it would be, and it- I was still searching. It's like minutes later, and Yusuf's just went bda- I think he typed six keys-

Chris Williamson 53:23 (laughs)

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 53:23 ... six keys, and the longest delay was waiting for the laptop to load.

Chris Williamson 53:27 Of course it was, yeah.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 53:28 So that's why he doesn't use his phone.

Chris Williamson 53:29 When Yusuf's quicker than a silicon chip at searching for stuff-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 53:32 (laughs)

Chris Williamson 53:32 ... that makes-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 53:32 Yeah.

Chris Williamson 53:33 That makes a lot of sense.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 53:33 Like, for Yusuf to unlock his phone, the time taken for the face ID to work, he'd have found it by then. So it- it ...

Chris Williamson 53:39 (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 53:39 That- that's it, so I think my phone, I should associate it with, like, frustration.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 53:43 Slowly-

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 53:43 Like, "Oh, it's taking too long." Like, "Come on."

Chris Williamson 53:45 No, I agree.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 53:45 Throw it off a wall.

Chris Williamson 53:46 Uh, right. My next one is a quote from, I think it's originally from, uh, James Clear. "Don't practice what you do not want to become." And basically, it reminds us that there is no such thing as not instantiating a habit. You're always embedding some form of habit. It's either, is it the one that you want to do, or is it one that you don't want to do? There is no, "Oh, well, th- this isn't me doing a thing." No, no, no, no. Even not doing a thing is doing a thing. And do not pra- or don't practice what you do not want to become is such a lovely little mantra to remind yourself that when you're stuck between two choices, between the thing that you know that you probably should do and the thing that maybe the lazy present self is tempting you to do, okay, is this version what I want to become? It almost invariably it's going to be no. So it reminds you t- to take a third-party perspective. It takes you out of your, th- the present self, which is inevitably lazy and takes the path of least resistance. It's just, how do I want to look back on today tomorrow? What would I have wanted me to do right now? And almost always, you make the right choice. So should I hit the snooze button? Okay, well, do you want to become the sort of person that regularly hits the snooze button? Because if you hit snooze today, not hitting snooze tomorrow will be harder.... not easier. (smacks lips) The way the pro-

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 55:13 Yeah. Y- y- you're right, you can't be like, "Oh, well this, this doesn't count." And you know, Kate Loughlin says something similar of, "You're always practicing something." And so the... Oh, I think I heard another one that's like, there's no... This isn't the dress rehearsal, like this is just your life. Like you can't be like, "Oh no, but this is the rehearsal so it's fine, I'll just snooze today." It's a scary one.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 55:35 It's the, it's caving to the, like, mental narrative of like, "Oh, like, this time it's a one-off but tomorrow, like, tomorrow, next week, Monday I'll... It'll be different." Like, that... As soon as you fall for that trick, you're more likely to fall for it every subsequent time, which means you're less and less likely forever to do the thing that you're trying to do.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 55:54 And then you're just drilling the habit of, "Oh-"

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 55:56 Delaying.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 55:56 ... "this time X, Y, and Zed."

Chris Williamson 55:57 Of listening, yeah, precisely. There's layers and-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 55:59 Awful.

Chris Williamson 55:59 ... layers of, of how you're talking to yourself and what the habits are. But the e- the way that myelin works, you don't get to not lay myelin sheaths down in your brain. The e- action that you make will lay down some sort of pathway, so you might as well decide to reinforce the ones of the things that you want to do, not the ones of the things that you don't want to do.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 56:25 Here's a question. If you could voluntarily, like, have a timeout button for your brain that you could turn on or off, would you have one installed?

Chris Williamson 56:36 What would happen?

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 56:37 So, no myelin is laid down when the timeout is enabled.

Chris Williamson 56:40 Oh God, yeah.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 56:41 Yeah?

Chris Williamson 56:41 I'd just go crazy.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 56:42 There's a little light.

Chris Williamson 56:42 I'd go... Well, the... 'Cause that's what people think is happening when they give themselves a day off, when they give themselves a, "Right, okay, well I'm not going to follow my diet, I'm not going to do my morning routine, I'm not going to train, I'm not going to get up on time." That's what they think is happening. They think, "Oh well, yeah, but, like, this is just... I, I'm... This doesn't really count. It doesn't matter." When what it is is just another day that's chipping into the days of good habits. Johnny.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 57:13 Guys, I'm gonna have to go to the toilet.

Chris Williamson 57:15 Okay, that's fine. We can talk-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 57:16 Can I go?

Chris Williamson 57:16 We can talk about you while you go. Come on.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 57:19 All right, cool. Two secs.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 57:20 It's normally me as well.

Chris Williamson 57:22 It is?

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 57:22 Like, at the end of a, a Life Hacks. Uh, my bladder is bursting, but luckily I went for the pre-wee.

Chris Williamson 57:28 What have you done this week?

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 57:31 I have been finishing up my geriatrics rotation, so-

Chris Williamson 57:35 What are you onto next?

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 57:37 Moving onto a GP practice, which is the, the make or break. So w- interestingly, speaking of kind of productivity, I know people that have performed so well in... So, i- Julian, for example, performed so well in his GP kind of entrance application that he didn't have to do an interview and he just got a job secured on the GP training program. When he did his rotation in GP, he sacked it off because he was like, "This is not the kind of neat, day has clear boundaries kind of situation that you'd have in a hospital where you turn up, you're handed over some stuff, you do the jobs, and then at the end of the day you hand it over to someone else and it's continuous." In GP practice it's like, there's a bunch of stuff that happens on Monday and then you've got to follow it up on the Wednesday, and you've got to make... write the 50 letters here, and, and it just opens up a bunch of loops, and it doesn't get to the poin... You know, you, you don't have a clear end to each day so you've just got like this ongoing mass of stuff to do. So, it'll be interesting to see how-

Chris Williamson 58:36 So will you be a GP for a short while?

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 58:40 GP with a lot of support. So I'm, I'm, I'll be a, an F2 doctor, so like, having my own patient load but with a, with a, a special GP to go and ask if I'm stuck about anything.

Chris Williamson 58:51 Interesting.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 58:52 It's usually administrative stuff, it's like, "Oh, how do you refer to this particular clinic?" Or, "Who do you send this person to?" Or whatever.

Chris Williamson 59:00 The hierarchy of medicine is insane when you realize just how long and drawn out it is, that the people who've been studying for five years and then on placement for two still basically just get to file the paperwork for the people that are fully qualified.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 59:15 (laughs) Yeah. It, yeah, it depends on the specialty. Um, if you're in something super specialized then that's definitely the case. Um, or if you, you know, if it's surgery then you can, you're gonna be very gradually... Which, which is great for the, for the, you know, for the patient because you're never going to be operated on by someone who's just YOLOing the procedure at 2:00 in the morning.

Chris Williamson 59:37 Our cousin Joanne who's here on placement. (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 59:42 (laughs)

Chris Williamson 59:42 "Well, she was great in The Hairdressers."

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 59:46 "Joanne, do you mind just filling in? 'Cause this, uh, this woman needs her appendix taken out anymore."

Chris Williamson 59:51 (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 59:51 "All right, I'll give it a, I'll give it a crack." (laughs)

Chris Williamson 59:53 Fucking hell, so I watched that, um... Is it Three Identical Strangers, about those twins in New York that were separated at birth, adopted, and then... If you haven't watched it, Three Identical Strangers on Netflix is amazing. Very heartwarming, um, documentary. It's, it's a great watch. Uh, and I won't spoil it for you but, um, these three guys get separated and then they, they come back and find each other at like 19 years old, and they're triplets. And one of the guys (laughs) , one of the guys... They start living together after a few years and one of the dudes needs his appendix taken out, he's got appendicitis, uh, but he doesn't have any medical insurance so he goes into the hospital under his brother's name, who does have medical insurance-

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:00:35 Ah, clever.

Chris Williamson 1:00:35 ... and gets his appendix taken out under the name of his identical brother.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:00:40 Although, it... Surely you could do that with anyone. Like, d- or in the States do they have like photo ID to check for you?

Chris Williamson 1:00:46 I think they almost definitely have photo ID, yeah, for medical stuff.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:00:49 'Cause it's all done on, it's all d- everyone's got to have an insurance policy, don't they? I feel like if it was just saying like, "Oh, this is my name, honest promise," like, it, there'd be a lot of fraud going on.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:00:59 'Cause I feel like you could do that in the UK, couldn't you? I mean, I've not tested the limits of the fraud...

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:01:04 I think it's quite hard. (laughs)

Chris Williamson 1:01:09 What you got, Bob?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:01:11 Okay. Um...... question of which, which direction to take things in. How many more are we doing?

Chris Williamson 1:01:18 We got a bit of time. We'll be doing at least a, at least a couple each.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:01:21 Okay. So, in that case, this is a diet-related hack, which is low calorie hot chocolate.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:01:32 What is the... 'Cause I'm like, is it just less of the spoons in or i- is it the same number of spoons-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:01:40 Don't know.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:01:40 ... but it's lower calorie?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:01:41 I don't really have, like, normal hot chocolate, so I don't know. But it, it's a, it's an easy one, it's just like 60 calories. So they get to the end of the day, you've hit your calories for the day and you think like, "I'd, I really would just quite like something sweet." It's negligible. Like-

Chris Williamson 1:01:58 What brand?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:01:58 ... wouldn't even mind tracking it. There's a, I think it's Galaxy chocolate, do like a 60 calorie one. So if you're dieting, it's just a really easy thing to hap- to add in at the end of the day.

Chris Williamson 1:02:11 I wonder what a normal scoop of hot chocolate is.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:02:15 I think they're pretty high calorie.

Chris Williamson 1:02:16 Is that right?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:02:17 Yeah.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:02:17 It's the number of spoons, that's the thi- that's why I'm so surprised that... 'cause it's like, what is the bulk of the stuff if it's not-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:02:24 It'll be awfully artificial, and like-

Chris Williamson 1:02:27 (laughs)

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:02:27 ... I wouldn't, it's not like a healthy drink, I would imagine.

Chris Williamson 1:02:30 It's just filled with carcinogens, isn't it?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:02:32 Yeah. (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:02:33 (laughs) So the ... I can't really have carcinogens, so it's fine.

Chris Williamson 1:02:34 But have you tried other ones or is the Galaxy, is the Galaxy the only one that you've tried?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:02:38 It's, I've only tried one, yeah. Like I'm not-

Chris Williamson 1:02:40 Do you like Galaxy?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:02:40 To be honest, I'm not, I'm not looking for like the, the edge with it. It's, it's something that, that just ticks a box.

Chris Williamson 1:02:45 Yeah.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:02:45 Um.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:02:46 H- have you ever had, uh, Konjac noodles?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:02:50 Yes.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:02:51 Kon- Konjac.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:02:51 Yeah, the low, the low calorie, like rubberized noodles.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:02:55 They're like two calories per pack.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:02:57 Yeah.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:02:57 It's ridiculous.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:02:57 But I mean, it's not food, is it?

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:02:59 Yeah, it's just bulk and it's not-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:03:01 I think, uh, yeah. I, like you, you eat it and you think, "I shouldn't be eating this."

Chris Williamson 1:03:06 (laughs)

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:03:06 Like this, this feels like if I were to eat my pencil case.

Chris Williamson 1:03:09 Keyboard or something. (laughs)

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:03:10 Yeah, like... (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:03:11 But I think when you're deep in a diet, when you're like, you can start to see your pancreas secreting insulin, you're just like, "Yep, give me it."

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:03:17 Yeah.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:03:18 "I don't care."

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:03:18 Anything, anything to feel mechanically full, I'll, I'll eat. Whether it's like tissue paper, noodles, low calorie hot chocolate.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:03:24 It's a weird head space, isn't it?

Chris Williamson 1:03:26 Wow.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:03:26 Yeah. (laughs)

Chris Williamson 1:03:27 Low calorie hot chocolate, I'm, man, I think that and zero calorie jelly or low calorie jelly.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:03:32 Yeah.

Chris Williamson 1:03:32 All of these little ways to, the, um, charity popcorn, the low calorie chari- charity popcorn as well. All just little things that you can chip away at your hunger with.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:03:42 There's also like, um, like fruit, fruit juice lollies. You know, like a, like a ice cr- not an ice cream, but you know what I mean, like a-

Chris Williamson 1:03:51 Ice lolly.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:03:51 You both know what I mean. Yeah. Um, those but like an orange juice one. They're also really low calorie. Same sort of thing.

Chris Williamson 1:03:58 Are you dieting at the moment?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:04:00 I, yeah, I am.

Chris Williamson 1:04:01 What are you going from and to?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:04:04 I was, when I started, I was 106 kilos. I'm now 96 kilos.

Chris Williamson 1:04:11 No way.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:04:12 And I'll be-

Chris Williamson 1:04:12 Are you going down to the 93s?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:04:14 That's the plan, yeah.

Chris Williamson 1:04:16 Fuck.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:04:16 I want to be within firing range of the 93, so I want to be like 95 and under, and then I just wanna nip in and put my deadlift record up again, and then-

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:04:25 You're such a terminator at 93.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:04:27 (laughs)

Chris Williamson 1:04:28 What are you working toward here?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:04:29 I don't think I'll be able to get-

Chris Williamson 1:04:29 When are you working towards peaking for, start of next year?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:04:32 I don't have, I don't have like that.

Chris Williamson 1:04:32 Later this year?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:04:34 I'm just like enjoying training and being a bit lighter. And it's, uh, it's quite a big difference being 10 kilos lighter.

Chris Williamson 1:04:42 What's the difference, what's the difference between being 106 kilos and 96 kilos?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:04:47 Just like the general effort of life is slightly lower across the board.

Chris Williamson 1:04:52 (laughs)

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:04:52 So like walking, uh, any, any exertion is easier 'cause obviously the... Like imagine carrying a 10 kilo plate. Like if I gave you a 10 kilo plate and said, "You've got to take this with you everywhere you go. You can't leave it anywhere." Like if you go to the shop and leave it in the, in the checkout, like you've got to go back and get it-

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:05:10 Yeah.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:05:10 ... 'cause you've got to have it with you the whole time.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:05:11 It's so funny, like I, I remember the, kind of experiencing the opposite of that. Like 'cause I went from 59 to 90 kilos in about four or five months.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:05:21 Yeah.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:05:21 And yeah, you get like a pump in your lower back going upstairs and like shin splints just from (laughs) like less than 15 minutes of running.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:05:31 Yeah.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:05:31 Awful.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:05:32 You just feel worse in every way, I think.

Chris Williamson 1:05:34 S- structurally unadapted to your own body somehow.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:05:38 Yeah. (laughs) Well, especially if it happens quickly. So I gained like, I gained my, my 10 kilos, I gained my 10 kilo plate over like six months. So not quite as aggressive as, as, uh, as Yusuf, but, um, you know, ...

Chris Williamson 1:05:50 This will be the lightest that you've been for ages then.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:05:54 The lightest I've been since 2017.

Chris Williamson 1:05:56 Wow.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:05:57 Yeah.

Chris Williamson 1:05:57 That's awesome, man. Congratulations.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:05:59 Thanks, man.

Chris Williamson 1:06:00 Seth, what you got?

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:06:02 Let me know if I've said this one before. But it's keys in the fridge.

Chris Williamson 1:06:06 Yeah.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:06:07 I have said this before.

Chris Williamson 1:06:08 Yeah.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:06:09 Really?

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:06:09 Okay.

Chris Williamson 1:06:10 Yeah.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:06:10 So in that case, let's switch to, speaking of the high... So the, for anyone who doesn't know what that is, it's probably three episodes back, um, speaking of 170 BPM music, Frenchcore is the one.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:06:27 (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:06:27 (laughs)

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:06:28 Frenchcore.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:06:29 It's, it's such a great genre to-

Chris Williamson 1:06:31 I'm, I'm terrified to find out what this is.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:06:32 But sounds like something from a dream.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:06:33 Oh. So for anyone that enjoys a bit of kind of EDM music and thinks, "Ah, but I just wish it was just twice as fast and a bit more distorted,"

Chris Williamson 1:06:43 (laughs)

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:06:44 (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:06:46 (laughs) And I wish it just like blew my head off a bit more. Frenchcore is the one. Have a listen to Bill X, Doctor Peacock, and Cepha, and they will change your life.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:06:59 So interesting that you said, I listened to some Doctor Peacock the other day.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:07:03 Did you?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:07:04 I think it's because you tagged him-

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:07:06 Oh, yeah.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:07:07 ... in something on Instagram.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:07:08 He's a genius.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:07:08 And I saw the like message thread and I listened to his latest, like Viking trance one.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:07:13 Yeah.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:07:13 Viking dance or some- something like that.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:07:15 Welcome to Valhalla.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:07:17 That's it.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:07:17 Yeah.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:07:17 (laughs) Yeah. I was nearly there. Um, it's, y- I liked it more than I thought.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:07:23 ... it's, it's a gateway drug.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:07:25 It is a bit much though, isn't it?

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:07:26 It, it's the kind of thing that you, you hear once ... It's, it's like eating a spicy chili, and you're like, "Oh, that's, that's too much for me." And then, like, a day later, you're like, "Mm. I love chili."

Chris Williamson 1:07:35 How would you describe the sound of listening to it, Johnny?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:07:41 So, it feels like there's a lot of noise. So, there's a wall of noise that hits you, and there's a, there's a hint of a, of a melody there. And you feel the whole-

Chris Williamson 1:07:51 Someone shouts the word melody next door.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:07:53 It's a LaCroix if he's ... He's beautiful.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:07:55 It's like ... It's, I almost find myself, like, wanting the melody to continue.

Chris Williamson 1:08:00 Yeah.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:08:01 Just going ... (singing) And you're like, you're like, "Oh." It ... And then it starts getting a bit more like ... (cymbals clashing) And you're like, "Oh, okay."

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:08:08 (laughs)

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:08:08 It's a bit ... And then, so like, I think listening to it's like a me- there's a mental strain to listening to it for me.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:08:15 What a description.

Chris Williamson 1:08:16 (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:08:16 It, yeah, it pushes you at limits. It, I, I find it beautiful, like Gabber brings me to tears.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:08:21 Bea- be-

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:08:21 Absolutely beautiful.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:08:22 Beautiful?

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:08:23 Yeah.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:08:24 But there's no melody.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:08:25 It's in your, it's in your soul. That's the point.

Chris Williamson 1:08:27 (laughs) I think that says so much about you as a human. (laughs) Yeah.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:08:34 I think it's just matching your mental frequency.

Chris Williamson 1:08:36 Overclocked brain. Yeah, precisely.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:08:38 So you, you ... Shut down. Your body's like-

Chris Williamson 1:08:41 That's binaural beats. That's Yousef's binaural beats.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:08:44 It's noise-canceling for brain, isn't it?

Chris Williamson 1:08:47 (laughs)

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:08:48 But, like, so, so similarly, I, I listen to music that has a lot of shouting in it, I suppose, is the only way to describe it.

Chris Williamson 1:08:55 (laughs)

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:08:55 And I'll play it for other people, and they'll hate it. And they'll say, "Why do you like it?" And I'm like, "Well, I don't really know." Like, you can't really hear what they're saying. He sounds pretty annoyed about something. But you can't-

Chris Williamson 1:09:05 Crossed. Upset.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:09:06 Upset.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:09:06 Upset at best, I think. Yeah, yeah. Vexed. He's vexed about something, but you can't understand what.

Chris Williamson 1:09:10 (laughs)

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:09:10 But I li- really like it for some reason.

Chris Williamson 1:09:12 Yeah.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:09:12 And it's like, you know when you meet someone who has a similar music taste? You don't ... it, there's just an in- an immediate like-

Chris Williamson 1:09:17 You just know.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:09:18 Yeah. You don't have ... Like, "Oh, do you hear that?" Like, "Oh, yeah, yeah. Have you heard that album?" "Oh, yeah." Do you have that with Doctor Peacock? Do you ever meet fellow Doctor Peacockers?

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:09:27 Yeah, so, um, I've, I've got a friend who's a vet who absolutely loves ... The, the problem is, a lot of ... He, he's more on the, like, happy hardcore kind of side of it, um, but the problem is-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:09:38 Ruffles in the sky side.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:09:40 But, yeah, but turned up the speed. The problem is, um, a lot of the, those kind of happy hardcore stuff on YouTube seems to have, like, hentai as the thumbnails. (laughs) And he says that he just plays it while he's in surgical vet theater. And sometimes, like, his colleagues will be like, "What, are you ... What have you got on there?" And he's like, "Oh, no, no, no, it's just the music. It's not the, the-"

Chris Williamson 1:10:01 It's not nude-y anime.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:10:02 It's, "Uh, I see. Right, yeah."

Chris Williamson 1:10:04 Shit. Right. Uh, this is one that all of us will do, I'm almost certain, but we haven't put it on the life hacks before, which is answer emails when you're waiting for something. So, if you are sat waiting for food to be delivered outside of a restaurant, or you've gone to the mechanic's and your car's getting done, there's a number of different things that you could do. You could browse the internet. You could look on social media. But inevitably, there's always a bunch of emails that you need to, you need to get through. Maybe you've got a bunch of different inboxes. Maybe you've got, like, a public-facing inbox that you need to ... you batch it once every couple of weeks or something like that. And, um, the beauty of using time where life thinks it's got you to actually get it. You're like, "Oh, no, no, no, no, no."

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:10:52 (laughs)

Chris Williamson 1:10:52 You don't make me wait. You don't make me wait. I'm, I'm going to stop me waiting in real life when you're making me wait in this mechanic's place, at QuickFit.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:11:01 The old switcheroo. I like it.

Chris Williamson 1:11:02 Yeah, exactly.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:11:03 (laughs)

Chris Williamson 1:11:03 And, um, no, I just think ... (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:11:07 It's a special counterattack.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:11:07 I've always got this image of Chris sat in QuickFit just going ...

Chris Williamson 1:11:11 Really smug. Really smugly sat in QuickFit. "Mate, are you, uh-"

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:11:15 I hope that you say it after.

Chris Williamson 1:11:16 "Excuse me, mate, your, uh, your car's finished, and are you smirking?" (laughs)

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:11:21 (laughs)

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:11:21 I'm hoping that the thought process is spoken out. Like, "Ah, life, you thought you'd got me today."

Chris Williamson 1:11:28 (laughs) Oh-ho, you think you've got me, don't you?

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:11:28 Not today, life.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:11:29 Not today, my friend.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:11:30 "I'm afraid it's going to be a 20-minute wait, mate." "No problem, sir."

Chris Williamson 1:11:34 Don't you worry, good friend. Yeah, I, um ... answer your emails when you're waiting for stuff. Just, you can just tick through them. Slowly move through whatever it is. You, you can't do the complex ones that need opening up a Google Doc and referring to stuff, and, "Oh, can you send over the attachments for whatever." But the vast majority of emails aren't that. The vast majority of emails are just you confirming that you've received an email from someone, or, "What's your address? What's your email?" Whatever stuff it might be. And, um, yeah, just chew through that. Uh, I've found ... 'Cause when you're waiting, there's an upper bound, I think, on how cognitively complex the things are that you can do. I don't think that you would be able to, "Oh, I'll, I'll write this sales copy for my new thing," or, "I'll update my CV."

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:12:16 It's really cognitively something-

Chris Williamson 1:12:16 Like, you're not gonna be able to sync yourself into a deep state. Yeah, precisely. But the vast majority of email work isn't deep. It's just shallow and frequent. So, answer your emails when you're waiting for shit.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:12:27 Have you ever said, "I hope this email finds you well"?

Chris Williamson 1:12:33 I've said, "Hope you-"

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:12:35 Maybe.

Chris Williamson 1:12:35 I've said, "Hope you're well."

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:12:38 Yeah.

Chris Williamson 1:12:38 I've never said, "I hope this email finds you well." That seems a bit pompous.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:12:41 I think that's one of the weirdest things to say, but people do it all the time.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:12:45 Like, when it finds you?

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:12:46 Well, that's it. Is it like-

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:12:48 You're well?

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:12:48 Is it when it finds you that you're well? Or is it, "I hope it finds you on the internet, and it locates you properly, effectively."

Chris Williamson 1:12:53 Effectively, I hope. Yeah.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:12:55 Yeah. As opposed to unwell.

Chris Williamson 1:12:57 Hmm. I don't know. I, I, I wonder about people that use the term e-meet.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:13:05 Yeah, definitely.

Chris Williamson 1:13:07 I don't know what I think about them, but I think something about them. I haven't decided what I think about them yet. Nice to e-meet you.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:13:16 Yeah.

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:13:16 It's just, it needs a better word, doesn't it? 'Cause the, the phrase itself is cringy. But I, I understand the sentiment, so it needs a cooler sounding ...

Chris Williamson 1:13:25 The better one to, the best one, the one that I always use is just, "Great to connect."... that seems to come across-

Jonny (Propane Fitness) 1:13:30 It's a bit LinkedIn.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:13:30 It's a bit, yeah, it's very, it's very LinkedIn outreach, isn't it?

Chris Williamson 1:13:32 Well, I don't use LinkedIn.

Yusef (Propane Fitness) 1:13:35 You'd love it on