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Live The Perfect Life, Using Data - Seth Stephens-Davidowitz

Seth Stephens-Davidowitz is a data scientist, economist and author. Imagine if you had access to millions of data points which tell you exactly what makes people happy, or makes people attracted to you, or what actually influences your child's outcomes in life, or the most reliable way to become rich. Well Seth did, and he wrote a book with all his findings in it. Expect to learn how you can conduct a survey to test different appearance styles to find out which is best for you, what personality traits result in the happiest relationships, which activities which make you most and least happy, the secret industries of people who become rich in America, how to hack luck using data and much more... Sponsors: Join the Modern Wisdom Community to connect with me & other listeners - https://modernwisdom.locals.com/ Get 2 weeks free access to Wondrium by going to https://www.wondrium.com/modernwisdom (discount automatically applied) Get 15% discount on Upgraded Formulas Test Kit at https://upgradedformulas.com/ (use code: MW15) Get a Free Sample Pack of all LMNT Flavours at https://www.drinklmnt.com/modernwisdom (discount automatically applied) Extra Stuff: Buy Don't Trust Your Gut - https://amzn.to/3PkKXyU Follow Seth on Twitter - https://twitter.com/SethS_D Get my free Reading List of 100 books to read before you die → https://chriswillx.com/books/ To support me on Patreon (thank you): https://www.patreon.com/modernwisdom #datascience #happiness #dating - 00:00 Intro 00:25 Seth’s New Book 04:25 How Appearance Influences Success 10:50 Insights from Dating Data 15:58 Physical Attractiveness & Happiness 24:22 Data on What Makes People Happy 38:00 Best Ways to Become Rich 44:58 Becoming a Successful Entrepreneur 52:00 How to Hack Luck 1:00:35 Data on Parenting 1:05:27 Where to Find Seth - Join the Modern Wisdom Community on Locals - https://modernwisdom.locals.com/ Listen to all episodes on audio: Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact/

Seth Stephens-DavidowitzguestChris Williamsonhost
May 16, 20221h 6mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 0:25

    Money & happiness: why income gains have diminishing returns

    Seth explains that money does correlate with happiness, but the effect is modest and increasingly diluted as income rises. He uses research showing that doubling income yields a similar reduction in unhappiness at vastly different income levels, creating a “treadmill” effect.

    • Money–happiness relationship exists but is smaller than people expect
    • Doubling income has similar effect whether you’re middle-income or already wealthy
    • Hedonic adaptation/treadmill means bigger jumps are needed for the same boost
    • Sets up the book’s goal: replacing intuition with data
  2. 0:25 – 4:16

    Building a ‘Moneyball for life’: the premise of Don’t Trust Your Gut

    Chris frames Seth’s new book as a self-help guide built from rigorous data rather than anecdotes. Seth describes his frustration with “evidence-based” advice that cherry-picks confirming studies, and his commitment to starting with questions and letting the best data lead the conclusions.

    • Motivation: a self-help book Seth wished existed
    • Critique of narrative-driven and cherry-picked ‘science-based’ advice
    • Method: begin with no preconceived answer, then follow the strongest studies/data
    • Readers surprisingly enjoy charts/tables when they clarify reality
  3. 4:16 – 5:23

    Looks and life outcomes: the uncomfortable data on appearance bias

    Seth walks through evidence that appearance influences real-world outcomes—from elections to military promotion to courtroom judgments. The conversation highlights how competence, dominance, and even baby-faced features shape perceptions and decisions.

    • Voting behavior: perceived competence from faces predicts many elections
    • Career outcomes: ‘dominant-looking’ people rise faster in hierarchies like the military
    • Legal outcomes: baby-faced defendants may be treated more leniently
    • Theme: society often behaves like ‘never escaped high school’
  4. 5:23 – 10:56

    A data-driven makeover: FaceApp + Photofeeler to optimize first impressions

    Seth explains his “nerdiest makeover” experiment—generating altered photos and having strangers rate them on traits like confidence/competence. He shares what moved the needle most for him and argues others can run similar tests for their own context.

    • Tooling: FaceApp to create variations; Photofeeler to collect ratings
    • Findings: beard + glasses markedly increased perceived confidence/competence for Seth
    • Many tweaks (smile types, different glasses styles) mattered less than expected
    • Competence and attractiveness ratings often correlate; ‘find your look’
  5. 10:56 – 14:17

    Dating data: why being polarizing beats being broadly ‘average’

    Using online-dating insights, Seth argues that for most people the best strategy is to lean into distinctive traits that create strong attraction for a subset, even if it turns others off. He contrasts this with highly attractive people, who can benefit from playing it safer.

    • Top performers are predictably the most conventionally attractive
    • Surprise winners: people with ‘extreme’ looks can do very well by being polarizing
    • Advice for non-supermodels: amplify your authentic differentiators (e.g., ‘nerd it up’)
    • Dating goal isn’t universal approval—it’s finding a strong match
  6. 14:17 – 15:58

    Messaging ‘out of your league’ and using similarity bonuses

    Seth shares data on response rates across desirability gaps and emphasizes volume: more attempts create more chances. He also explains strong similarity bias—people prefer partners like themselves in many dimensions, even down to shared initials—and how to ethically leverage that reality.

    • Unexpectedly non-zero odds when low-rated users message high-rated users
    • Math of volume: more outreach dramatically raises probability of a ‘yes’
    • Similarity bias across race, religion, education, even same university
    • Shared initials increase match likelihood; use small ‘multipliers’ strategically
  7. 15:58 – 24:27

    What predicts relationship happiness: psychology beats superficial traits

    A large-scale machine-learning study of couples finds romantic happiness is hard to predict, but the predictors that matter are psychological (attachment style, conscientiousness, growth mindset). Traits emphasized by dating apps—height, conventional attractiveness, job—have little predictive value for long-term satisfaction.

    • Even with huge samples, predicting happy couples is surprisingly difficult
    • Psychological variables show more signal than superficial attributes
    • Conventional attractiveness/height/occupation show little predictive power
    • Modern dating filters often optimize for the wrong inputs
  8. 24:27 – 27:50

    Real happiness data: experience sampling and the ‘hunter-gatherer’ activity profile

    Seth describes smartphone-based experience-sampling datasets that measure happiness in the moment across activities and contexts. The results skew toward simple, social, and outdoor experiences, while many modern activities rank low—leading to his memorable ‘data-driven answer to life.’

    • Experience sampling: repeated real-time pings create millions of ‘happiness points’
    • Happiest contexts often involve nature, beauty, friends/partners, and movement
    • Low-ranked activities include bureaucracy, lines, many screen-based behaviors
    • Takeaway: modern life can drift far from what reliably boosts mood
  9. 27:50 – 32:01

    Underrated vs overrated activities, and happiness vs meaning

    Chris and Seth compare activities people underestimate (museums, exercise, gardening, errands) versus those they overestimate (TV, gaming, browsing, relaxing). They also discuss the tension between immediate happiness and longer-term meaning, arguing for nudges rather than radical life overhauls.

    • Underrated: cultural outings, libraries, exercise, gardening, some social drinking
    • Overrated: passive leisure and many screen-based activities
    • Individual variation exists, but people may exaggerate how unique their preferences are
    • Happiness-vs-meaning tension: use data to steer choices, not to ‘quit your job’
  10. 32:01 – 36:18

    Social media and misery: evidence, mechanisms, and why we mispredict happiness

    Seth cites experience-sampling results and randomized evidence showing reduced depressive symptoms when people quit Facebook. He explains how curated public lives distort perception and how powerful incentives (ads, A/B-tested feeds) exploit predictable human biases.

    • Social media ranks lowest among measured leisure activities in one dataset
    • RCT: paying users to quit Facebook reduced depressive symptoms
    • Mechanism: comparison against curated highlight reels and public/private self-presentation gap
    • Broader point: markets/advertisers shape mistaken beliefs about happiness
  11. 36:18 – 38:05

    Money again: debunking the $70k myth and the ‘$8M boost’ idea

    Seth clarifies that money continues to matter beyond $70–75k, but marginal gains shrink substantially. He also discusses evidence of a renewed boost at very high wealth levels, potentially because money can eliminate the most miserable daily tasks via outsourcing.

    • $70k ‘no effect’ claim is too simplistic—effects level off but don’t hit zero
    • Doubling income yields similar changes in unhappiness at different levels
    • Very high wealth may increase happiness by buying time and removing drudgery
    • Biggest happiness purchases tend to be experiences (travel) over luxury goods
  12. 38:05 – 45:04

    How people actually get rich: ownership, field choice, and local monopolies

    Using taxpayer data, Seth argues that most top earners get rich through ownership rather than salary, often via unglamorous regional businesses. He explains why business selection matters (e.g., record stores fail quickly) and why durable advantage often comes from local monopoly-like protection or moats.

    • Top 0.1% often earn via owning assets/businesses, not wages
    • Typical rich profile: owners of regional businesses (auto dealers, distributors)
    • Pick fields with durability; avoid ‘romantic’ but fragile businesses (record stores)
    • Seek moats: legal protections, defensibility, repeat customers, or brand
  13. 45:04 – 52:02

    Selling and entrepreneurship myths: poker-face pitching and the ‘older founder’ advantage

    Seth shares an AI-based study suggesting overly enthusiastic facial expressions can hurt sales; a calmer demeanor can outperform perks like free shipping. He then dismantles the myth of the young founder, citing data showing successful entrepreneurship is more common later and strongly linked to deep prior expertise and high employee performance.

    • Sales insight: excessive smiling/excitement can backfire; ‘poker face’ may sell more
    • Entrepreneur myth: media overemphasizes young founders; average successful founder ~42
    • Success odds can rise up to ~60; experience and domain depth matter
    • Best entrepreneurs often were top performers before founding (high prior earnings)
  14. 52:02 – 1:00:34

    Hacking luck: quantity, wide exposure, and finding the right ‘break markets’

    Luck is examined through the art world, where outcomes are highly stochastic but still shaped by behaviors that increase opportunity. Seth emphasizes producing more work (more “lottery tickets”), avoiding stagnation in the same gatekeeper channels, and placing yourself in environments where breakthroughs are more likely.

    • In luck-heavy domains, output volume strongly predicts breakthrough success
    • ‘Bumblebee’ strategy: present work widely rather than repeatedly to the same gatekeepers
    • Don’t linger where nothing is happening—expand networks, venues, and attempts
    • Go where breaks happen (e.g., hubs like Silicon Valley for tech)
  15. 1:00:34 – 1:05:00

    Parenting data: smaller direct effects, bigger neighborhood and adult-role-model effects

    Twin and adoption research suggests many parental inputs have smaller impacts than commonly assumed, while neighborhoods have substantial causal influence on outcomes. Seth argues for ‘outsourcing’ some influence by curating environments and adult role models—people kids may emulate more readily than their own parents.

    • Twin/adoption findings: siblings can turn out similar despite different parents; adoptees less similar despite same parents
    • Neighborhood effects: where kids grow up can causally shape life outcomes
    • Adult role-model density matters (e.g., more female scientists → more girls becoming scientists)
    • Practical takeaway: choose communities and friends you’d want your kids to copy
  16. 1:05:00 – 1:06:19

    Wrap-up: independent creatives, where to find Seth, and book plug

    They briefly return to the idea that independent creative work can build a defensible ‘moat’ via brand and audience, making high earnings more plausible than expected. Chris closes by recommending the book and Seth shares where to follow his work.

    • Creative careers can create a moat via audience loyalty and brand
    • Book mention: Don’t Trust Your Gut
    • Seth’s website: sethsd.com
    • Chris closes with links and subscription prompt

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