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MICHAEL CAZAYOUX | From Childhood Addiction To Becoming The Fittest On Earth

Michael Cazayoux is the CEO of BruteStrengthTraining.com, 2-Times CrossFit Games Team Champion and coach behind some of the best athletes on the planet. This definitely ranks as one of the most powerful episodes so far and Michael's story is so extreme it almost sounds like fiction. From taking his first drink of alcohol at 9 years old, to drug dependency in his teens, through rehab, to relapse, to sobriety, and then to winning the CrossFit Games twice, and now having created one of the most well regarded coaching companies in the world. He is a living example of what can be done with the willpower to face and overcome our demons. Expect to find out the real costs of addiction, how living with virtue and telling the truth can literally save your life, and what it takes to go from an addict to a champion. Also find out why he's having to take showers in his friends' house at the moment! - Listen to all episodes online. Search "Modern Wisdom" on any Podcast App or click here: iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/modern-wisdom/id1347973549 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0XrOqvxlqQI6bmdYHuIVnr?si=iUpczE97SJqe1kNdYBipnw Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/modern-wisdom - I want to hear from you!! Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Email: modernwisdompodcast@gmail.com

Chris WilliamsonhostMichael Cazayouxguest
Jun 5, 20181h 18mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 2:45

    Michael Cazayoux’s story in one breath: addiction, recovery, elite CrossFit & business success

    Chris introduces Michael Cazayoux as a CrossFit Games champion and CEO/founder of Brute Strength Training, emphasizing the contrast between his troubled past and his present stability. The episode is framed as a conversation about overcoming obstacles, not just sport.

    • Michael’s credentials: Brute Strength Training CEO, CrossFit Games team champion
    • The core tension: dark addiction history vs. present balance and success
    • Conversation focus: mental resilience and life principles beyond fitness
  2. 2:45 – 5:07

    Early athletic life: “above average at everything,” but no discipline yet

    Michael explains he played many sports and lifted weights early, with natural ability but little commitment to practice. He loved competing, but didn’t understand the value of hard work until later.

    • Multi-sport background (football, baseball, basketball, soccer, golf)
    • Naturally capable, but avoided structured practice and effort
    • Early hints of competitiveness without consistent discipline
  3. 5:07 – 9:38

    How addiction began: anxiety, acceptance-seeking, and escalating use

    Michael traces his substance use back to age nine, describing alcohol as his first experience of calm and acceptance. By his mid-teens, use escalated rapidly to daily weed, pills, and then harder drugs—while he stayed in denial.

    • First drink at 9: alcohol as relief from anxiety and social insecurity
    • Daily weed by 14; painkillers/benzos by 15; cocaine/ecstasy by 16
    • AA meetings at 15: empathy for others, but personal denial of addiction
    • Living two lives: meetings some nights, getting loaded others
  4. 9:38 – 11:30

    First theft and moral drift: the “small compromise” that becomes identity

    After a friend’s death, Michael describes becoming emotionally detached and increasingly exploitative. He explains theft and dishonesty as a gradual slide: small violations normalized over time until no boundaries remained.

    • Friend’s overdose death and Michael’s deepening self-centered behavior
    • Stealing begins with small amounts from his mother’s purse
    • Rationalization: “no harm done” → repeated compromises
    • Character change happens slowly, almost invisibly
  5. 11:30 – 13:01

    Rehab decision and reality check: from ‘Malibu fantasy’ to long inpatient treatment

    Michael recounts being sent to rehab after dangerous incidents and feeling out of control. Expecting an easy 30-day stay, he instead enters a long, structured treatment path that becomes life-changing.

    • Recognizing he needed help after escalating risk and accidents
    • Expectation vs. reality: short-stay fantasy vs. 9–11 months inpatient + halfway house
    • Treatment as the turning point that “transformed my life”
  6. 13:01 – 16:12

    Wilderness therapy & forced honesty: learning vulnerability and accountability

    The early rehab phase quiets Michael’s chaotic mind through isolation and hard conditions. In the next program, peer-driven confrontation and a no-nonsense therapist force him to stop performing and start telling the truth.

    • Wilderness therapy: detaching from noise, cravings, and negative influences
    • Peer-driven accountability: being called out for partial truth
    • Vulnerability as skill: contributing to others, accepting support
    • Breaking the habit of withdrawing when things get difficult
  7. 16:12 – 20:21

    College, marathon success, and relapse mechanics: how a ‘seed of thought’ grows

    After rehab, Michael enters college and channels energy into running, winning his age division at a marathon. When the goal ends and isolation returns, a seemingly small temptation—getting codeine—rapidly cascades into a full relapse.

    • Post-treatment momentum: intense training and marathon win
    • Loss of structure + poor environment + isolation as relapse risk
    • Relapse progression: codeine plan → pills in elevator → crack/heroin within hours
    • Pulled back into treatment; last hard-drug use dated June 2008
  8. 20:21 – 25:48

    Five years sober, then reintroducing weed/alcohol: rules, vigilance, and “achievement guilt”

    Michael describes five years of complete sobriety, followed by a careful and debated decision to use alcohol/weed occasionally. He emphasizes the non-negotiable boundary: never using substances to cope with negative emotion—only socially.

    • Full sobriety for ~5 years after 2008
    • Reintroduction decision: long deliberation, consulting support system
    • Monitoring for cravings—and not finding them
    • Emotional aftermath: relief mixed with guilt, especially hiding it from parents
  9. 25:48 – 27:20

    Willpower is finite: routines, decision fatigue, and training integrity

    Chris and Michael connect addiction recovery lessons to performance psychology: willpower depletion and the power of routines. The discussion frames discipline as a resource best protected by habits and structure.

    • Radishes vs. cookies study: self-control depletes cognitive stamina
    • Morning routines reduce decision fatigue and preserve willpower
    • Moving choices into habits improves consistency and performance
  10. 27:20 – 30:52

    First CrossFit workout: ‘Fight Gone Bad,’ dead last, and instantly hooked

    Michael recalls entering CrossFit in the late 2000s thinking he was in great shape from running. He gets crushed, finishes last, is sore for days—yet falls in love with the shared suffering and transformation of the class model.

    • Early CrossFit era (around 2009) introduction through a friend
    • First workout: Fight Gone Bad; pacing error and near blackout
    • Finishing dead last reveals major gaps (strength, gymnastics)
    • CrossFit’s emotional hook: struggle → growth → community
  11. 30:52 – 34:57

    From chasing gym leaders to CrossFit Games: structure, teammates, and professional habits

    Michael explains his rapid progression: first by showing up daily and chasing better athletes, then by adding extra work and joining stronger training environments. He highlights the moment he saw what true professionalism looks like—sleep, diet, recovery, and following the plan exactly.

    • Early progress: consistency and “chasing” the best athlete in the gym
    • Adding strength work and second sessions to address weaknesses
    • Competition encounters lead to team formation and Games qualification
    • Breakthrough observation: teammates who trained like pros (sleep, nutrition, bodywork)
    • Integrity with self: keeping promises builds belief and mental toughness
  12. 34:57 – 40:43

    What’s ‘typical’ in CrossFit training: recruiting, coaching, and the upward slippery slope

    The conversation shifts to training sophistication and how CrossFit evolved quickly with strong S&C principles. Michael also challenges moral panic about recruiting, positioning it as normal in sport—and credits disciplined adherence to programming as the real edge.

    • High-level programming existed early via experienced S&C coaches
    • Recruiting framed as ethically normal: “every sport recruits”
    • Professionalism = doing exactly what the coach prescribes (no more, no less)
    • Discipline compounds upward just like bad habits compound downward
  13. 40:43 – 47:47

    Brute Body & training identity: blending CrossFit with physique and longevity work

    Chris probes the cultural tension between CrossFit ‘function’ and aesthetics. Michael positions Brute Body as a short-term phase that expands training vocabulary, adds accessory work, improves health, and keeps training enjoyable.

    • Brute Body as a time-bound phase (3–12 months), not a forever plan
    • Accessory/hypertrophy work as supportive of long-term CrossFit health
    • Growing crossover between “globo gym” and CrossFit cultures
    • Critique of extremes: isolation-only training isn’t functional, but some isolation is valuable
  14. 47:47 – 55:16

    Building Brute Strength as a business: mentors, vulnerability, and hiring for weaknesses

    Michael explains how he commercialized his coaching by learning business fundamentals through mentorship and mastermind communities. He attributes rapid learning to a rehab-earned skill: asking for help without ego, then assembling a team that complements his weaknesses.

    • Early business learning via Barbell Shrugged Mastermind and mentors
    • Vulnerability as a business advantage: learning fast and seeking feedback
    • Jordan Peterson principle: assume others know something you don’t
    • Strengths: ideation and fast execution; weaknesses: detail, repetition, organization
    • Scaling by hiring systems/operations-minded people and building a coaching team
  15. 55:16 – 1:18:34

    Beyond rock bottom: principles for change, meditation practice, identity, and tech boundaries

    Michael offers guidance for people who aren’t in crisis but feel stuck: stop digging, accept reality courageously, ask for help, and build self-awareness. He then details a simple meditation practice for creating a gap between circumstance and reaction, discusses competing for ego vs. passion, and explains leaving social media to protect deep work and presence.

    • Change without catastrophe: accept dissatisfaction and take “massive action”
    • Put down the shovel: stop making choices that deepen the hole
    • Meditation: 20 minutes, breath focus; becoming the watcher of thoughts
    • Reverse-engineering outcomes: thought → emotion → behavior → result
    • Identity/ego: resisting competition attention to pursue jiu-jitsu mastery
    • Deep Work and quitting social media to reduce distraction and comparison

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