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Michael Malice - The Corporate Press Are Losing Control

Michael Malice is an author, political commentator & podcaster. No matter what your political affiliation, the ferocity of the press's approach to any story right now is quite intense. The volume seems to only get louder and louder as they try to maintain the attention that 2020 gave them. I wanted to ask Michael just what is going on. Expect to learn what Michael thinks about the Canadian truckers' protest, whether Whoopie Goldberg deserved cancelling, why ambient anxiety is the outcome that the media wants, what's happening with Ukraine and Russia, how Michael ended up in Tesla's Giga Factory at midnight, whether we're over wokeness and much more... Sponsors: Join the Modern Wisdom Community to connect with me & other listeners - https://modernwisdom.locals.com/ Get 15% discount on Craftd London’s jewellery at https://bit.ly/cdwisdom (use code MW15) Get 20% discount on the highest quality CBD Products from Pure Sport at https://bit.ly/cbdwisdom (use code: MW20) Get 83% discount & 3 months free from Surfshark VPN at https://surfshark.deals/MODERNWISDOM (use code MODERNWISDOM) Extra Stuff: Buy The Anarchist Handbook - https://amzn.to/2ReU6zH Follow Michael on Twitter - https://twitter.com/michaelmalice Get my free Reading List of 100 books to read before you die → https://chriswillx.com/books/ To support me on Patreon (thank you): https://www.patreon.com/modernwisdom #media #michaelmalice #control - 00:00 Intro 01:18 Michael’s Thoughts on the Canadian Truckers 12:21 Increasing Victimhood in Society 16:50 What is Happening in Russia & Ukraine? 27:12 Whoopi Goldberg’s Holocaust Comments 33:58 The Media are Worse than the Government 39:13 The Dark Side of Corporations 54:30 What is the Agenda of the Press? 59:39 Touring Tesla with Elon Musk, Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson 1:06:38 Where to Find Michael - Join the Modern Wisdom Community on Locals - https://modernwisdom.locals.com/ Listen to all episodes on audio: Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact/

Michael MaliceguestChris Williamsonhost
Feb 14, 20221h 7mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 1:17

    Corporate press vs. politicians: who really wags the tail

    Michael opens with his central thesis: conservatives misidentify the enemy as politicians, when the corporate press is the real power center shaping incentives and outcomes. Chris welcomes Michael and they briefly warm up with travel talk before pivoting into politics and media influence.

    • Politicians as “the tail,” corporate press as “the dog” driving behavior
    • Why replacing leaders (Biden/Corbyn) doesn’t address the underlying system
    • Quick personal banter sets the tone before diving into current events
  2. 1:17 – 13:32

    Canadian truckers, meme politics, and institutions forcing people to “pick a side”

    They unpack the Canadian trucker protests, how “clown world” meme culture maps onto real events, and why establishment narratives quickly shift to delegitimization. The GoFundMe controversy becomes a case study in institutional power and public backlash.

    • Media reframing: from misreporting motives to labeling protesters as extremists
    • GoFundMe attempted redistribution/seizure and the backlash-driven reversal
    • Using “Nazis” as a binary to force alignment and create out-groups
    • Cultural bifurcation: alternative platforms/mechanisms emerging under pressure
  3. 13:32 – 16:45

    Victimhood as status, anxiety as currency, and the psychology of grievance

    The conversation moves from protest tactics to the social rewards of claiming harm. They discuss how modern culture elevates victimhood, and how “suffering” narratives play differently in social contexts like dating and mental health disclosure.

    • Victimhood functioning as a high-status marker in contemporary discourse
    • COVID-era anxiety providing an external scapegoat for personal distress
    • Why “I overcame trauma” can still read as a red flag on dating apps
    • Depression/victim narratives as socially ‘draining’ or perceived as contagious
  4. 16:45 – 20:08

    Russia–Ukraine: war drums, media escalation, and incentives for conflict

    Chris asks about Russia and Ukraine; Michael expresses concern about escalation and how media and political incentives can inflate threats. They explore how diplomacy fails when each side refuses to acknowledge the other’s perceived security concerns.

    • Skepticism toward sensationalized war coverage; Ukrainian leadership downplaying panic
    • How NATO/foreign troop positioning looks from Russia’s perspective
    • Military-industrial and political incentives: profit, approval ratings, rally-around-the-flag
    • Risk of the U.S. making a regional conflict “infinitely worse” through escalation
  5. 20:08 – 27:12

    Boris Johnson’s vulnerability and the “presidentialization” of UK politics

    The discussion detours into UK leadership dynamics, focusing on Boris Johnson’s scandals and whether he can survive them. They connect this to how UK politics became more personality-driven under Thatcher and Blair, increasing fragility when leaders become liabilities.

    • Why parties eject leaders when polling threatens MPs’ seats
    • The embarrassment/legitimacy problem of defending elite rule-breaking
    • How Thatcher/Blair shifted UK politics toward a leader-as-brand model
    • Elections becoming personalized: “Do you want X in Number 10?”
  6. 27:12 – 31:05

    Whoopi Goldberg, apology rituals, and why everything is at maximum volume

    They analyze the backlash to Whoopi Goldberg’s Holocaust comments and the limited value of punitive suspensions. This expands into a broader theme: modern discourse treats mistakes as evidence of deep moral corruption, driving permanent outrage cycles.

    • Interpreting Whoopi’s comments as clumsy framing vs. malicious intent
    • Why corporate apologies often fail (non-apology apologies, escalating demands)
    • Outrage as a “tip of the iceberg” test for hidden bigotry
    • Right-wing attempts to mirror cancellation tactics and why it often doesn’t ‘work’
  7. 31:05 – 34:38

    As COVID fades: the search for the next control narrative

    Michael argues that as the pandemic loses force as a tool of social control, institutions seek replacement threats to keep anxiety and compliance high. Chris connects this to how emergency powers (government) and elevated fear (media) are hard to roll back.

    • COVID as an unusually effective universal justification for control
    • Why substitutes like “white supremacy” are less tangible and less scalable
    • Ambient anxiety as a maintained ‘water level’ that institutions resist lowering
    • Parallel between government emergency powers and media fear incentives
  8. 34:38 – 41:24

    “The media are worse than the government”: why politicians can’t dissent

    Michael makes the case that media pressure constrains political freedom more than formal government power does, especially during crises. He argues that even if a politician questions weak policies (e.g., social distancing), media backlash would end their career.

    • Politicians’ incentives: deviating from the narrative becomes career-ending
    • COVID policy examples: social distancing as a taboo to question in-office
    • Hypocrisy scandals (e.g., leaders breaking rules) as evidence of performative compliance
    • Reframing the power structure: corporate press ‘wags’ elected officials
  9. 41:24 – 51:34

    Corporate America’s dark side: bandwagons, fear, and disposable people

    They explore how corporations adopt ideological trends out of fear and opportunism, using CrossFit’s leadership purges as an example. Michael broadens the critique into corporate sociopathy—low loyalty, high PR calculation, and moral detachment from consequences.

    • Woke branding as risk management: fear of backlash drives conformity
    • CrossFit leadership shakeups as a case study in ideological risk reduction
    • Corporate loyalty asymmetry: firms demand devotion but offer none in return
    • Corporate complicity in violence: war-profiteering and sanitized rhetoric
  10. 51:34 – 59:39

    What the press optimizes for: stories with solutions (and why that solution is “them”)

    Michael argues the press avoids topics that don’t allow them to ‘win’ or prescribe an actionable remedy—because their business is selling narratives, not information. They discuss examples like spyware concerns, 3D-printed guns, Rogan coverage, and differentiate “bias” from “agenda.”

    • Media preference for problems that allow a clean, prescriptive resolution
    • 3D-printed guns/files as an example of a story with no workable ‘fix’
    • Distraction dynamics: serious surveillance vs. culture-war pile-ons
    • Bias vs. agenda: perspective vs. intentional emotional manipulation for social change
  11. 59:39 – 1:02:19

    Tesla factory night tour: imposter syndrome with Musk, Rogan, and Peterson

    Chris asks about the Tesla factory visit; Michael describes the scale, the surreal atmosphere, and feeling out of place among major public figures. The experience is framed more as awe and vigilance than casual fun.

    • Gigafactory scale and “UFO reverse-engineering” vibe
    • Being around Jordan Peterson, Elon Musk, Joe Rogan, and Mikhaila Peterson
    • Imposter syndrome and self-monitoring in elite/controlled environments
    • Choosing not to be ‘that guy’ trying to force a conversation with Elon
  12. 1:02:19 – 1:06:38

    Holodomor research, forgotten atrocities, and why media narratives erase complexity

    Michael shares that he’s writing about the Holodomor, detailing the brutality and the emotional toll of researching intentional mass starvation. They close by discussing why societies forget atrocities—especially when there’s no satisfying narrative arc or vivid imagery to anchor memory.

    • Holodomor overview: Stalin’s engineered famine and methods of terror
    • Western journalists’ historical role in denial and cover-up
    • Why some conflicts/atrocities fade: lack of a ‘story’ or victorious framing
    • The power of imagery vs. text in shaping collective memory
  13. 1:06:38 – 1:07:11

    Wrap-up: where to follow Michael

    Chris asks where people can keep up with Michael, ending on a brief joke and sign-off. The episode closes with Chris’s outro and subscription prompt.

    • Michael’s deadpan answer to where to find him
    • Final goodbyes between host and guest
    • Show outro with links to clips and subscription reminder

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