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Psychology, Advertising & Human Behaviour | Richard Shotton | Modern Wisdom Podcast 163

Richard Shotton is a behavioural scientist, Founder of Astroten and an author. One of my favourite guests returns today as we discuss mental models, psychology, consumer behaviour, principles for advertising, social change and much more. Expect to learn how you can tell someone's mood by the movement of their mouse, why the end of an experience is the most important, what makes the perfect advert, how you can increase workplace safety with skeleton gloves and much more. Get Surfshark VPN - https://surfshark.deals/MODERNWISDOM (Enter Promo Code MODERNWISDOM for 83% off & One Extra Month Free) Extra Stuff: Follow Richard on Twitter - https://twitter.com/rshotton Buy Richard's Book - https://amzn.to/2YCQfdt Buy Richard's Online Course - https://www.42courses.com/courses/behavioural-science-for-brands Take a break from alcohol and upgrade your life - https://6monthssober.com/podcast Check out everything I recommend from books to products - https://www.amazon.co.uk/shop/modernwisdom #psychology #advertising #humanbehaviour - Listen to all episodes online. Search "Modern Wisdom" on any Podcast App or click here: iTunes: https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/modern-wisdom - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: modernwisdompodcast@gmail.com

Richard ShottonguestChris Williamsonhost
Apr 26, 20201h 23mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

How Behavioral Science Makes Advertising Memorable, Persuasive, And Profitable

  1. Chris Williamson and Richard Shotton explore how behavioral science explains what makes advertising and communication effective, focusing on attention, memory, mood, and perceived fairness.
  2. They discuss key psychological effects—like distinctiveness, the red sneaker effect, generation effect, rhymes, peak‑end rule, and social proof—and show how these can be turned into practical creative and media decisions.
  3. The conversation also critiques common industry myths (like a “trust crisis”), jargon, and the tendency to design ads for peers rather than consumers.
  4. Throughout, they highlight real-world examples from brands, governments, and healthcare that demonstrate how small psychological tweaks can create disproportionate impact at low cost.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Distinctiveness is the first job of any advert.

If people don’t notice an ad, nothing else matters; using distinctive creative that breaks category norms (the Von Restorff effect) dramatically increases the chance of being seen and remembered.

Breaking norms can signal higher status for brands.

Francesca Gino’s red sneaker effect shows that high-status individuals can get away with norm-breaking; by analogy, brands that visibly defy category conventions can be perceived as more confident, premium, or leader-like.

Make audiences work a bit to remember more.

The generation effect shows people recall information better when they have to ‘generate’ part of it themselves (e.g., filling in a missing word or solving a small puzzle), which ads can exploit with clever headlines or implied messages.

Rhyme and fluency increase both believability and recall.

Experiments show rhyming phrases are judged more truthful and are more memorable, yet modern advertising avoids them as ‘uncool’, highlighting a gap between what works for consumers and what signals sophistication to peers.

Mood and media context significantly influence ad effectiveness.

People in a good mood notice and like ads more; targeting happier contexts (evenings, weekends, comedy, cinema) or using creative that lifts mood can substantially improve ad impact compared to “neutral” or stressed environments.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

The most important line that should appear on every brief never does, and that is, ‘This advert must be noticed and remembered.’

Richard Shotton (citing Dave Trott)

If you have a formula and everyone adopts it, that formula becomes defunct.

Richard Shotton

Rhymes aren’t used as much as they should because they’ve fallen out of fashion in marketing circles. They’re uncool to your fellow professional—and who cares what your fellow professional thinks in terms of sales?

Richard Shotton

In behavioral science, people are so complex and nuanced that the opposite of a good idea could be another good idea.

Richard Shotton (via Rory Sutherland)

People will go to quite big lengths, even at a cost to themselves, to punish unfair behavior.

Richard Shotton

Attention and distinctiveness in advertising (Von Restorff/isolation effect)Norm-breaking and status signaling (Red Sneaker Effect) for brandsMemory techniques: generation effect, rhymes, puzzles, and recallMood, media context, and timing in ad effectivenessPrincipal–agent problem and why marketers avoid creative riskFairness, social proof, and behavior change in public campaignsPeak-end rule, time perception, and customer experience design

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