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Sargon Of Akkad | Why Are We Facing A Crisis In 2020?

Sargon Of Akkad is a British political commentator and a YouTuber. 2020 has had some serious history occur, and we’re only halfway finished. I wanted to get Carl on to try and cut through the mud and work out just why everything has come to a head. Extra Stuff: Subscribe to Sargon on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCitU2-w3XE8ujvUZjcAnhIg Get my free Ultimate Life Hacks List to 10x your daily productivity → https://chriswillx.com/lifehacks/ #sargonofakkad #socialjustice #chriswilliamson - Listen to all episodes online. Search "Modern Wisdom" on any Podcast App or click here: iTunes: https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/modern-wisdom - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: modernwisdompodcast@gmail.com

Carl Benjamin (Sargon of Akkad)guestChris Williamsonhost
Jul 21, 20201h 12mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 0:30

    Western civilization in “Fall of the Republic” territory

    Carl opens by framing 2020 as a civilizational inflection point, comparing the West to late-stage Rome. He argues the direction of travel is destructive even if decline plays out over centuries.

    • Rome analogies: Fall of the Republic / Crisis of the Third Century
    • A sense that current incentives and institutions are self-destructive
    • Decline as a long arc rather than imminent collapse
  2. 0:30 – 1:24

    Demonetization, political correctness, and creator punishment

    Chris asks whether Carl is the most demonetized person online, prompting a discussion about platform enforcement and political speech norms. Carl describes repeated demonetizations and claims the core issue is disagreeing with progressive framing.

    • Multiple demonetizations and the reputational label that follows
    • Examples of others affected (e.g., Crowder, Zero Hedge)
    • Claim: saying similar topics “non-progressively” triggers punishment
  3. 1:24 – 4:25

    Channel throttling, “quarantines,” and the tightening noose on platforms

    Carl compares performance on his new vs. old YouTube channels and argues the older one has been algorithmically throttled. The conversation broadens into deplatforming patterns and signaling mechanisms like removing verification badges.

    • Impressions/views disparity as evidence of throttling
    • “Quarantine” as soft suppression before removal
    • Deplatforming progression: extremes first, then conservatives
    • Blue check removal framed as privilege and warning shot
  4. 4:25 – 8:21

    Garage creators vs. corporate media: who counts as ‘mainstream’?

    Carl and Chris discuss how independent creators can rival legacy outlets while still being treated as less legitimate. They argue “mainstream” now means approved/ratified access rather than audience size.

    • Creators held to standards of CNN/Fox despite tiny teams
    • Eric Weinstein framing: ‘traditional’ vs ‘mainstream’
    • Approved media as gatekept access to politicians and institutions
    • Trust networks and insider status as the real currency
  5. 8:21 – 9:56

    Platform consolidation fears: Rogan/Spotify and building independence

    Chris raises the risk of platforms attracting creators, then squeezing monetization and control once they have leverage. Carl explains this motivates his move toward owning distribution via a personal site.

    • Netflix-style consolidation hypothesis for podcasting platforms
    • Host-read ads as remaining leverage for creators
    • Carl’s plan: website + podcast to reduce platform dependence
    • Brief aside about avoiding ‘London Real’ pitfalls
  6. 9:56 – 13:08

    How to explain 2020: protests as a broader revolutionary project

    Asked to summarize 2020, Carl argues the unrest goes beyond police brutality and represents a communist-style revolutionary push incubated in academia. He cites statue toppling, anti-police slogans, and explicit anti-capitalist messaging as evidence.

    • Claim: moral license to ‘tear down the West’ taught culturally/academically
    • Statues as symbolic targets of the established order
    • “Defund/abolish the police” framed as radical core, not fringe
    • BLM fundraising language cited as explicitly anti-capitalist/anti-imperialist
  7. 13:08 – 20:08

    Communism as moral religion—and the Robin DiAngelo ‘whiteness’ frame

    Carl argues communism functions like a moral religion and pivots to Robin DiAngelo’s influence through ‘White Fragility.’ He claims her framing equates individualism and meritocracy with “whiteness,” producing guilt-driven identity politics.

    • Communism framed as morality-first, economics-second
    • Soviet incentive problem as an illustration of centralized distribution failures
    • DiAngelo’s critique of individualism/meritocracy as racialized oppression
    • Comparison to white identitarian logic: identity politics mirrored
    • Examples of ‘ritualized’ displays of guilt and submission
  8. 20:08 – 23:08

    Performative corporate speech, fear-driven compliance, and hollow messaging

    Chris and Carl focus on how public statements from corporations and institutions feel coerced and performative. They argue compelled speech undermines trust and makes honest nuance harder to express.

    • Communication becoming “hostage/gun-to-head” signaling
    • Discord example: intensified moderation framed as anti-“whiteness” action
    • Why forced slogans feel inhuman: tone, intent, and authenticity mismatch
    • Nuanced conversation displaced by ritual affirmations
  9. 23:08 – 28:35

    Deeper philosophical schism: objective reality vs sovereign will

    Carl proposes an underlying worldview conflict: empirical, biology-rooted categories versus a transcendental “will” that overrides material reality. He connects this to contemporary debates (e.g., definitions of womanhood) and broader cultural confusion.

    • Unitary human view (body/brain) vs will-as-sovereign framework
    • Trans debates used as example of competing ontologies
    • Continental idealism vs Anglo empirical tradition as background
    • Why this produces culture-wide ‘what is happening?’ reactions
  10. 28:35 – 33:11

    Comedy takedowns and ‘context collapse’ in the culture war

    They discuss removals of older shows/episodes (e.g., Fawlty Towers) and argue that satire’s intent is ignored when context collapses. Chris adds an example where parody harmed an individual’s career, shifting from offense to personal consequences.

    • Satire that mocks racism reinterpreted as racist due to keywords (N-word, blackface)
    • “Nothing’s safe” as norms are retroactively applied
    • Bo’ Selecta/Craig David example: parody’s collateral damage
    • Framework shift: everything interpreted as racialized regardless of intent
  11. 33:11 – 38:35

    Disclaimers, scalp-taking, and the ‘competitive’ cleansing of media

    The conversation turns to disclaimers on films and a broader dynamic where status is gained by identifying and condemning problematic content. Carl frames this as revolutionary behavior that escalates until met by organized resistance.

    • Problematic-film lists and rapidly expanding targets (even recent releases)
    • Cleansing culture as a ‘competitive sport’ for social status
    • Fear prevents institutions from drawing a firm line
    • Prediction: escalation continues until counterrevolution or parallel institutions
  12. 38:35 – 46:22

    No consistent rules in a revolution: power, propaganda, and double standards

    Chris searches for a stable boundary for what should be condemned, but Carl argues consistency is the wrong expectation in revolutionary conflict. He claims the goal is winning within a power schema, explaining political reversals and selective outrage.

    • Revolution as war: strategy/tactics over procedural fairness
    • Social-justice definitions rooted in power (e.g., racism as power+prejudice)
    • Why contradictions (e.g., Biden reversals) are tolerated by in-groups
    • Trump framed as flawed but non-revolutionary vs left as system-hostile
  13. 46:22 – 51:44

    2020’s information crisis: Twitter-driven journalism and viral misinformation

    Chris lists the compounding stressors of 2020—COVID anxiety, nonstop news, election pressure—and argues precision matters more than ever. Carl responds with examples of misinformation cycles and claims social media accelerates polarization and false narratives.

    • Ambient COVID anxiety + constant news cycle as a volatility multiplier
    • Leaked memo example: restricting journalists’ Twitter use
    • Churchill statue incident: misread photos, audio overlays, ‘Nazi’ labeling
    • Viral misinformation example: misleading UK voter-age map
    • Social media as an accelerant that drives narrative divergence
  14. 51:44 – 1:06:21

    ‘Twitter is fight mode’: coping by seeking plural sources and resisting self-radicalization

    Carl describes research suggesting Twitter activates fight responses, turning discourse into constant conflict. He recommends deliberately consuming opposing sources and uses Hayek to argue plural propaganda is healthier than single-channel truth.

    • Twitter as the world’s largest ‘fight club’ psychologically
    • Echo chambers shift from different interpretations to different ‘facts’
    • Practical tactic: watch/read both sides (Fox/MSNBC; Pakman/Novara; Tucker)
    • Hayek’s point: totalitarian danger is lack of plural narratives
    • Self-deconditioning to avoid becoming a political zealot
  15. 1:06:21 – 1:12:31

    How to speak and act now: caution, support networks, and practical reform paths

    In closing advice, Carl warns against becoming a “hero” because online mobs can ruin lives and feel morally justified. He suggests supporting alternative voices materially and focusing on concrete reforms (e.g., local policing) rather than revolutionary demands.

    • Don’t volunteer for martyrdom in a high-mobility cancellation environment
    • Support countervailing institutions/voices through purchases and patronage
    • Separate ‘police reform’ from ‘defund/abolish’ as different policy aims
    • Example reform lever: officers policing their own communities
    • Acknowledgment that nuanced conversations are both necessary and risky

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