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The End Of The World, CrossFit & Pirates Of The Caribbean | Catch Up 103

Jonny & Yusef from PropaneFitness.com join me again as we continue our Catch Up series. No agenda, no specific topics for us to cover, just us talking about what we've been watching, reading & experiencing in our lives. This week we're talking about my trips to America, the new Pirates Of The Caribbean film, how we think the world will end, Jonny starting CrossFit, Netflix's Our Planet and lots more. Extra Stuff: Naval on The After On Podcast with Rob Reid: https://after-on.com/episodes-31-60/044 Check out everything I recommend - https://www.amazon.co.uk/shop/modernwisdom Check out Propane's Website - https://propanefitness.com/ - Video & production by Dean Hindmarch https://www.deanhindmarch.com/ https://www.instagram.com/deanhindmarch - Listen to all episodes online. Search "Modern Wisdom" on any Podcast App or click here: iTunes: https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/modern-wisdom - I want to hear from you!! Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Email: modernwisdompodcast@gmail.com

Chris WilliamsonhostJonnyguestYusefguest
May 13, 20191h 15mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 2:10

    Catch Up chaos: streamer jokes, Americans vs Brits, and immediate derailments

    The episode opens with the trio joking about how quickly the 'Catch Up' episodes come around and how little progress they make because everything keeps happening. They riff on streaming culture, webinars, and kick off with light culture commentary about Americans being overly positive—but also more polite than Brits.

    • Meta discussion: being perpetually 'behind' vs live-streaming your life
    • Streamer/webinar jokes and 'conveyor belt of content' framing
    • Early tease: Chris has been to America (twice)
    • Initial culture take: American politeness vs British bluntness
  2. 2:10 – 3:16

    Life updates: injuries, CrossFit identity crisis, and med-school endgame stress

    Chris pulls Jonny and Yusef into sharing their recent life updates—mostly training changes and academic survival. Jonny’s injury and flirtation with CrossFit become a running gag, while Yusef describes the final stretch of medical school as pure fear and pressure.

    • Jonny’s injury and the joke of 'doing a CrossFit'
    • CrossFit ramp/on-ramp confusion and training identity
    • Yusef in the final weeks of his medical degree
    • Stress described via dark humor and constant anxiety
  3. 3:16 – 5:06

    The economics of failure: resitting med school, opportunity cost, and time-as-money

    Yusef explains the dread of potentially resitting a year, and the conversation turns into a blunt cost-benefit analysis. The group frames the real cost as time lost (and compounding lost earnings) more than tuition fees.

    • Fear of resitting: money vs losing a year of life
    • Opportunity cost and compounding lost earnings
    • NHS support for resits (and why it still feels catastrophic)
    • Humorous analogy to regrettable one-off expenses
  4. 5:06 – 10:50

    America Trip #1: ROMWOD filming, intense yoga, and the 'silicon' studio clientele

    Chris recaps his first US trip: filming at ROMWOD in Redlands and doing challenging yoga classes next door at The Yoga Rooms. A big comedic thread emerges around the studio’s affluent demographic and prevalence of cosmetic surgery.

    • ROMWOD shoot structure: multiple routines per day
    • Difference between ROMWOD yin-style work and the adjacent yoga studio
    • Observations about Redlands affluence and 'enhanced' clientele
    • Yoga class intensity: weighted bars, new painful wall-based poses
  5. 10:50 – 14:42

    American enthusiasm in workouts: the 'whoo' culture and DJ-driven yoga

    Chris connects a comedy observation (Americans 'whooing') to his experience in a high-energy yoga class. They compare it to traditional quiet yoga in the UK and discuss how atmosphere and production can transform an experience.

    • Audience 'whooing' as a uniquely American encouragement style
    • Who tends to 'whoo' (often those who stopped holding the position)
    • Live-mixed music and nightclub-style class pacing
    • Contrast: UK yoga’s silence and restrained etiquette
  6. 14:42 – 17:07

    LA culture tour: Venice-to–Santa Monica scooter ecosystem and micro-mobility economics

    The conversation shifts to Los Angeles and the explosion of rentable electric scooters and related vehicles. Chris explains how the apps work, how charging is decentralized, and why it changes the feel of spending time in LA’s beach areas.

    • Bird/Lime and the basic mechanics: unlock, ride, drop anywhere
    • Pricing model and abundance (always nearby)
    • The 'charger' side-hustle market and decentralized maintenance
    • Why it’s an ideal way to explore Venice Beach and Santa Monica
  7. 17:07 – 18:53

    Self-driving futures: renting out Teslas, automation risk psychology, and robot surgery hypotheticals

    Scooters lead into broader automation: Tesla robo-taxis, interior cameras, and how people perceive machine-caused risk differently than human error. They debate whether they’d trust algorithmic surgery and what 'experience' means for humans vs systems.

    • Tesla concept: your car drives itself and earns money as a taxi
    • Humans prefer their own mistakes over automated failures
    • Robot surgery thought experiment: outcomes vs trust
    • Algorithms vs surgeons: edge cases and adaptive judgment
  8. 18:53 – 24:21

    Movie & pop-culture tangent: Pirates of the Caribbean rant and Marvel fatigue

    Chris detonates a sudden rant about a newer Pirates of the Caribbean film and Johnny Depp’s eccentricity. That spills into Marvel talk, including Jonny’s hilariously vague summary of an Avengers plot and a quick detour into jaw/chin anatomy.

    • Pirates set-piece criticism (safe dragging an entire building)
    • Celebrity weirdness (including the dog-smuggling story)
    • Marvel skepticism and the 'big glove with gems' summary
    • Medical aside: prognathia/retrognathia and jaw surgery brutality
  9. 24:21 – 36:22

    Physio fads, TMJ myths, and why every rehab plan becomes clamshells

    From jaw issues, they jump to questionable bodywork claims and the frustrations of one-size-fits-all rehab. They roast chiropractors and physio 'trends,' comparing them to personal trainers prescribing the same template regardless of the client.

    • TMJ and the absurd 'pelvic floor causes jaw tightness' claim
    • Chiro/physio skepticism and the pull of faddish protocols
    • Common rehab tropes: clamshells, band walks, glute activation
    • Parallel in fitness: generic programs mismatched to goals
  10. 36:22 – 45:19

    Boston trip: bloodwork results, InsideTracker, and meeting longevity scientist David Sinclair (and maybe Elon)

    Chris recounts going to Boston for InsideTracker, getting extensive blood panels done, and reviewing results and interventions (like more soluble fiber). He also describes how he cold-emailed David Sinclair, visited him, and jokes about sharing oxygen with Elon Musk.

    • InsideTracker logistics: fasting, vials, shipping samples, HQ review
    • Key results: lipids/glucose slightly high, low free testosterone, fiber advice
    • Soluble fiber/beans and practical diet adjustments
    • David Sinclair’s output, awards, and bridging academia with business
  11. 45:19 – 49:00

    Privacy, surveillance, and screens: DNA inference, taped webcams, and addictive tech

    Wearables and self-tracking trigger a broader discussion about data: how benefits come with surveillance risk. They cite DNA databases enabling identification through relatives, Zuckerberg taping over cameras, and Steve Jobs restricting iPads due to addiction and focus loss.

    • Tradeoff: more personal data for you vs more data usable against you
    • DNA databases: identifying suspects via family-relationship inference
    • Zuckerberg taping webcam/mic as a signal of real risk
    • Screens as addictive focus-destroyers; imagining personality without them
  12. 49:00 – 1:02:04

    End-of-the-world rabbit hole: Amazon drones, slaughterbots, CRISPR plagues, and Black Mirror-style extortion

    Tech anxiety escalates into existential risk: autonomous drones, synthetic biology, and how cheap, scalable tools could be weaponized. They discuss scenarios where drones target DNA signatures and a crowdfunding-based extortion loop reminiscent of Black Mirror’s 'robot bees.'

    • Amazon logistics and drone delivery as a stepping stone to weaponization
    • Gatwick-style drone disruption and the difficulty of countermeasures
    • Synthetic biology/CRISPR enabling recreation of plagues
    • Dark-web crowdfunding + DNA-targeting drones as extortion mechanics
  13. 1:02:04 – 1:06:09

    Training pivot: Jonny quits powerlifting (for now), CrossFit on-ramp anxiety, and why enjoyment matters

    They return to training: Jonny describes his first 5K and CrossFit benchmark attempts, alongside mobility limitations and fear of the upcoming on-ramp session. The deeper theme becomes losing the joy of training—prompting the shift away from powerlifting.

    • First 5K and the misery of running unadapted
    • Mobility constraints (front rack) and behind-the-neck thrusters workaround
    • Powerlifting stagnation, injuries, and missed competitions
    • CrossFit framed as restoring athleticism and enjoyment
  14. 1:06:09 – 1:11:59

    Extreme mindset stories: Ant Middleton’s Everest decisions and ultra-endurance insanity

    Jonny recounts seeing Ant Middleton speak and shares a vivid Everest story highlighting risk tolerance and stubborn drive. Yusef adds a desert ultra anecdote involving expired insulin, and they discuss the surreal feats of elite ultra runners.

    • Everest acclimatization norms vs Middleton’s 'press on' approach
    • Storm warnings, the death zone, and near-fatal delays
    • Desert ultra story: survival logistics and extreme outliers
    • Courtney Dauwalter example: 250-mile trail run without sleep
  15. 1:11:59 – 1:15:52

    What’s next: upcoming episode topics, guests, dance-floor stories, and wrap-up

    They close by previewing future content: practical self-development topics, surviving university, and nightlife behavior. Chris teases upcoming guests including Tiago Forte and plans a 'Tales From The Dance Floor' series with major club figures before signing off.

    • Planned topics: self-discipline, working for yourself, strength training
    • Potential episode: human behavior insights from nightclubs
    • Upcoming guests: Tiago Forte and club-world interviews (Space Ibiza)
    • Quick wrap-up and call for comments/subscriptions

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